what is the difference between a Cabriolet and a Cabrio?

dontbel...@hotmail.com

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:20:45 PM4/21/03

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??? i have always wondered what the difference is.

me (noah)

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:37:41 PM4/21/03

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at least for water-cooled VWs cabriolet usually refers to the MKI bodey
style form 1980-93 and the cabrio refers to theMKIII 1994-2002 models

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Rich Dowdell

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Apr 21, 2003, 8:07:00 PM4/21/03

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Is it because the 94-2002 are too chunky to be cabriolets? :)
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Az Barber

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Apr 21, 2003, 8:35:55 PM4/21/03

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> ??? i have always wondered what the difference is.

The let.

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VWGirl

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:06:07 PM4/22/03

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that's what I say :-D

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VWGirl

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:06:59 PM4/22/03

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you forget in the US they were called Rabbit convertibles from 1979-1984...
so you have to ask the difference in the rabbit convertibles and the
cabriolets... :-D

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Edward

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:12:55 PM4/22/03

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I always thought that it had to do with the naming conflict between the
AUDI Cabrio and the VW Cabriolet?

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Edward

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:19:01 PM4/22/03

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I think there are really two problems here, but one is (arguably) more
important than the other.

When I turn the key to the 'start' position, I have to really jiggle it and
apply pressure in different directions to get it to actually start the car.
While I'm doing this, there is a buzzing that seems to come from the
relay/fuse box. Sometimes I can start the car easily, sometimes I'm
sitting there for several minutes. I already disasembled the steering
wheel, hoping to replace the ignition switch, but when I got to it, the
whole key barrel and ignition switch seemed to be one piece, and I had no
idea how to remove it. The Bentley manual seemed to say that to remove the
switch, I should remove the barrel first, and to remove the barrel, remove
the switch first! Anyways, there were no bolts or screws visible, so I
gave up and put it all back together.

Has anyone seen this before or have a solution? I've considered trying to
analyze the wiring diagrams and go to a 'push button' start.

The problem is compounded by the fact that it sometimes takes around 10
seconds to start the car.

Thanks!

Edward

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> that's what I say :-D

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:25:56 PM4/22/03

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Cabriolet simply means "convertible" do a search on ebay or somewhere for
cabrio or cabriolet and see what you come up with... mostly european
convertibles... but of all makes.

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Bil Gonzalez

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:59:22 PM4/22/03

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> Cabriolet simply means "convertible" do a search on ebay or somewhere for
> cabrio or cabriolet and see what you come up with... mostly european
> convertibles... but of all makes.

In fact, the original Beetle convertible was a Karmann Kabriolet, so named
because it was built at the Karmann factory. Cabriolet is part of the
European nomenclature, as is saloon, limousine, etc.

-BG

Az Barber

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:01:25 PM4/22/03

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> In fact, the original Beetle convertible was a Karmann Kabriolet, so named
> because it was built at the Karmann factory. Cabriolet is part of the
> European nomenclature, as is saloon, limousine, etc.
>
> -BG

If you want to get historical, that's also where the term "cab" comes from.
The original Cabriolets were horsedrawn buggies hired out for transport.

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Apr 23, 2003, 10:51:33 AM4/23/03

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Karmann Cabriolet being spelled with a C...

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> Karmann Cabriolet being spelled with a C...

Except on the badge on the car where the "K" is used as the first letter of
both "Karmann" and "Kabriolet".
See http://beetle.cabriolets.online.fr/jpg/cabrio6.jpg

-BG

Bil Gonzalez

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Apr 23, 2003, 9:05:19 AM4/23/03

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Or rather "Kabriolett" to be precise (double "T" to match double "N")
-BG

VWGirl

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Apr 24, 2003, 3:09:29 AM4/24/03

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interesting... what year car did that come off of?

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Scott H.

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Apr 25, 2003, 10:53:47 AM4/25/03

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Hey Lauren. I lurk here from time to time (shhh! ... don't tell anyone <g>).
According to WW, the `Karmann Kabriolett' emblem with the common `K' was
used on convertibles from 1949 to 1960. The `Karmann' one was used from 1961
& up.

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> interesting... what year car did that come off of?

> "Bil Gonzalez" wrote

VWGirl

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Apr 25, 2003, 2:17:54 PM4/25/03

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:-O I'm telling!!! of course... there are others that lurk here and post
here too... so I don't hafta tell :-P I had forgotten about those emblems...
but I do not see many pre 60 verts either!

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