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Charles Myer

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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I would really like to rebuild my engine but don't have a garage to do
it in. My only option at this point is that a buddy of mine has a house
with an empty room upstairs. We could remove the engine in his
driveway, and take it inside, up the stairs, and do the work there etc.

This seems like a lot of work. And is it possible for two people to
drag an engine up the stairs? It is a big old house and the stairwell
is rather large, but I worry about the weight of the engine - how much
does an engine weigh? I think someone else asked this a few months ago
but I don't remember.

I guess what i'm asking is, is this a stupid idea and has anyone else
done it this way. If you have any advice as to how to drag an engine
thru a house to the second floor without making a mess i'd really
appreciate it. I was thinking of tying some ropes around it and pulling
it up the steps riding on some 2x4 "rails".

charles myer '72 std beetle 1500cc
burlington VT


Jasen Hicks

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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The bug motors are really light compared to a chevy or ford. My dad and i
carried one by ourselves. We just secured it under the oil sump and carried
it that way.

-Jasen
Type I 70

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Geoffe Elias

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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The engine weighs at around 230 pounds I think. My brother and I are always
moving the bug engine around to mount it onto the stand or just put it in a
corner of the garage. I think it might be a challenge to bring an engine up
a flight of stairs but not impossible. You just have to be very careful and
make sure you don't injure anything. Perhaps you might want to have a third
person around to open doors or move things out of the way for the two people
lugging the engine around.

Geoffe Elias
'74 Super Beetle

DJ

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Charles Myer wrote:
><snip>is it possible for two people to

>drag an engine up the stairs? It is a big old house and the stairwell
>is rather large, but I worry about the weight of the engine - how much
>does an engine weigh?

Should be no problem, I move mine around by myself (of course I'm a good
size fella myself) but it should be no problem.

>I guess what i'm asking is, is this a stupid idea and has anyone else
>done it this way.

Hey, you gotta work with what you got. I once stripped down and rebuilt my
JetSki in the kitchen of my one bedroom apartment. I brought the whole Ski
into the apartment, I had nowhere ese to store it. Do this kind of thing
while you can 'cause none of my girlfriends ever understood this strong
desire to bring things into the house to fix'em...they figured -"just take
it to the shop."

Don't forget VENTILATION if working with volatile hydrocarbons like carb,
part, or brake cleaners!!!!!

I live with my present girlfiend in a house we jointly own...NO WAY would
she allow me to drag engines into the house. That's why she convinced me
that we should get a house with a nice 2 car garage so I would have room to
work. It was more money, but she was right it is worth it. She might never
let me rebuild a carb in the kitchen sink; but, she indulges me when I say I
need some tool...she says go get it! She would let me dig up the garage
floor and put in a hydraulic lift if I wanted one (and was willing to spend
my money to get it).

>If you have any advice as to how to drag an engine
>thru a house to the second floor without making a mess i'd really
>appreciate it. I was thinking of tying some ropes around it and pulling
>it up the steps riding on some 2x4 "rails".

Try just strapping it down to two 2x4s (maybe 3 feet long each) and picking
it up by the 2x4s, or just run a tie down strap under the engine and over
your shoulders; These engines aren't that heavy. And strip all the tin and
carbs off, move it as a long block, it's much easier 'cause you can turn it
on it's side to get around tight corners if need be.

Good Luck,
DJ


VolksFiend

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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...I can carry a longblock by myself...two people of average size shouldn't
have a problem...I can also carry a keg up stairs...but then I am 243 pounds :)

...Gareth

DJ

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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VolksFiend wrote

Yup, that's what I'm saying, should be no problem alone, and you got me beat
by about 15 pounds....unless I'm holding up a longblock :)

DJ


John Connolly

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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a longblock is 148 lbs.
complete engine is 248 lbs.

:-)

John Connolly
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Geoffe Elias <geof...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The engine weighs at around 230 pounds I think. My brother and I are
always
> moving the bug engine around to mount it onto the stand or just put it in
a
> corner of the garage. I think it might be a challenge to bring an engine
up
> a flight of stairs but not impossible. You just have to be very careful
and
> make sure you don't injure anything. Perhaps you might want to have a
third
> person around to open doors or move things out of the way for the two
people
> lugging the engine around.
>
> Geoffe Elias
> '74 Super Beetle
>
> Charles Myer wrote:
>
> > I would really like to rebuild my engine but don't have a garage to do
> > it in. My only option at this point is that a buddy of mine has a house
> > with an empty room upstairs. We could remove the engine in his
> > driveway, and take it inside, up the stairs, and do the work there etc.
> >

> > This seems like a lot of work. And is it possible for two people to


> > drag an engine up the stairs? It is a big old house and the stairwell
> > is rather large, but I worry about the weight of the engine - how much

> > does an engine weigh? I think someone else asked this a few months ago
> > but I don't remember.
> >

> > I guess what i'm asking is, is this a stupid idea and has anyone else

> > done it this way. If you have any advice as to how to drag an engine


> > thru a house to the second floor without making a mess i'd really
> > appreciate it. I was thinking of tying some ropes around it and pulling
> > it up the steps riding on some 2x4 "rails".
> >

> > charles myer '72 std beetle 1500cc
> > burlington VT
>

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Jeff

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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I moved my 1600 up a flight of stairs from my basement to the garage last
winter. I put the engine on a square piece of plywood and used a dolly with
straps to move it up one step at a time. You need one person pulling the
dolly up the stairs and one guy pushing up from the bottom. Check the
width, because it barely fit through my doors.

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Randy Davidson

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Strip everything off the motor, and two of you could carry it up the
stairs. They're not that heavy.

Randy
72 Ghia Coupe

Allan Williams

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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This isn't for everyone, but I dropped the engine from my '66 and carried
out of the garage, up two stairs, 30 metres up the drive to our shed and
dropped it on an old tyre. I removed the gen, and shrouding first to lighten
it and make it a bit smaller.

It's not heavy, just awkward... and POINTY!

Two can easily carry it (unless you're smallish or have a weak back etc)
just make sure you have a good grip on either side of a head each, and tryto
do it all is one go!

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Ben Short

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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In article <38B6F672...@pop.uvm.edu>, cm...@pop.uvm.edu says...

> I would really like to rebuild my engine but don't have a garage to do
> it in. My only option at this point is that a buddy of mine has a house
> with an empty room upstairs. We could remove the engine in his
> driveway, and take it inside, up the stairs, and do the work there etc.
>
> This seems like a lot of work. And is it possible for two people to
> drag an engine up the stairs? It is a big old house and the stairwell
> is rather large, but I worry about the weight of the engine - how much
> does an engine weigh? I think someone else asked this a few months ago
> but I don't remember.
>
> I guess what i'm asking is, is this a stupid idea and has anyone else
> done it this way. If you have any advice as to how to drag an engine
> thru a house to the second floor without making a mess i'd really
> appreciate it. I was thinking of tying some ropes around it and pulling
> it up the steps riding on some 2x4 "rails".
>
> charles myer '72 std beetle 1500cc
> burlington VT
>
>
You Shouldnt have too many trouble with it, I carry my 1500 motor around
once out of the car myself (except it was minus the heads, and fan
housing etc...)

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Peter Hollish

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Mine's in the basement. Get a friend to help carry it out. It's just
over 200 lbs... But I wouldn't want to haul DIRTY parts into someone's
bedroom.... the place will smell forever....
Pete

G.W. East

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Just had a complete motor shipped up, 302 lbs. This had everything on it,
fan shroud to the dual quiet paks, plus a pallet and some packing material.
I rebuilt a T4 in my extra bedroom, (very understanding wife). One thing I
learned is to measure the overall width of the motor and the doors ahead of
time. It was a very tight squeeze getting the completed engine back out of
the house, it was much easier bringing the pieces in one at time as I was
building it.
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Ralph Lindenfeld

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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reminds me of an MIT prank a friend told me about, where they
disassembled a car (bug?) and reassembled it inside a building...

"G.W. East" wrote:
>
> Just had a complete motor shipped up, 302 lbs. This had everything on it,
> fan shroud to the dual quiet paks, plus a pallet and some packing material.
> I rebuilt a T4 in my extra bedroom, (very understanding wife). One thing I
> learned is to measure the overall width of the motor and the doors ahead of
> time. It was a very tight squeeze getting the completed engine back out of
> the house, it was much easier bringing the pieces in one at time as I was
> building it.


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Ralph Lindenfeld

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Hell, I carried a fully mantled engine, and I weigh 165lbs. Of course,
that's how I put my back out permanently 12 years ago! The young and
the dumb..

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Jan Andersson

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Charles Myer wrote:
>
> I would really like to rebuild my engine but don't have a garage to do
> it in. My only option at this point is that a buddy of mine has a house
> with an empty room upstairs. We could remove the engine in his
> driveway, and take it inside, up the stairs, and do the work there etc.
>
> This seems like a lot of work. And is it possible for two people to
> drag an engine up the stairs? It is a big old house and the stairwell
> is rather large, but I worry about the weight of the engine - how much
> does an engine weigh? I think someone else asked this a few months ago
> but I don't remember.
>
> I guess what i'm asking is, is this a stupid idea and has anyone else
> done it this way. If you have any advice as to how to drag an engine
> thru a house to the second floor without making a mess i'd really
> appreciate it. I was thinking of tying some ropes around it and pulling
> it up the steps riding on some 2x4 "rails".
>
> charles myer '72 std beetle 1500cc
> burlington VT

Two people will have no trouble carrying it. IMHO. I have carried one
across the yard alone. (got back pain..:-)

A couple of hints: Drain the oil before dropping the engine!

And while outside on the driveway, remove all external engine part, like
carb, alternator/generator and fan shroud, etc. It will be easier and
LIGHTER to carry with less parts on it. You could also pull th eheads
and cylinders, it will be much lighter then, light enough to carry
alone.

Jan

P.J. BERG

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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A 1600 is very close to 115 kg, the 1500 is a tad lighter, no problem for
two people to carry. If you have the stock exhaust on, one grabs it on the
inward(sp?) part of the peashooters, the other grabs the oulets on the heat
exchangers.

J.

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"Ralph Lindenfeld" <ralph.c.li...@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote in
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> reminds me of an MIT prank a friend told me about, where they
> disassembled a car (bug?) and reassembled it inside a building...
>
> "G.W. East" wrote:
> >
> > Just had a complete motor shipped up, 302 lbs. This had everything on
it,
> > fan shroud to the dual quiet paks, plus a pallet and some packing
material.
> > I rebuilt a T4 in my extra bedroom, (very understanding wife). One thing
I
> > learned is to measure the overall width of the motor and the doors ahead
of
> > time. It was a very tight squeeze getting the completed engine back out
of
> > the house, it was much easier bringing the pieces in one at time as I
was
> > building it.
>
>

P.J. BERG

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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And if you start to loose it in the middle of the staircase, drop it, don't
go down with it!!
Engines can be repired, walls can be re-plastered but you have only got one
set of balls!

;^\/)

J.

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Alvin NG Boon Kim

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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Hello Ralph,

I believe it was the library. They disassembled 2 Bugs, brought them up
to the 2nd storey and put them together again... Needless to say, the
librarian was less than amused. :-)

I saw it on a website. Maybe our royal scribe, Bill B has the link? :-)

Alvin.

Jim Meaders

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> We have a '79 VW van that appears to be "slinging" oil out the dipstick
> tube. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Thanks, Jim
meadersj.vcf

Jim Meaders

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Jenn

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Jim -- Is it possible you've put too much oil in it? I remember some poor
guy with a Bug who posted quite a while ago, he had the same problem and
couldn't figure it out, everything seemed fine. Then it was revealed that
he put in four quarts of oil in his bug (it only needs about 2.5). Not sure
how much oil your van needs, but it may be worth looking up...

Jenn
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Stuart Taylor

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> Jim -- Is it possible you've put too much oil in it? I remember some poor
> guy with a Bug who posted quite a while ago, he had the same problem and
> couldn't figure it out, everything seemed fine. Then it was revealed that
> he put in four quarts of oil in his bug (it only needs about 2.5). Not
sure
> how much oil your van needs, but it may be worth looking up...

Same engine....same oil, 2.5 pints.

Jan Andersson

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Jim Meaders wrote:
>
> > We have a '79 VW van that appears to be "slinging" oil out the dipstick
> > tube. Does anyone have an explanation for this? Thanks, Jim

try to make the case breathe better.

Jan

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