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sol...@yahoo.co.uk

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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I own a 1973 1300 Beetleand as winter has hit the north of England the rain
has come. I have only owned the car since last August and have now rrealised
that it is letting water in. I think it is after I have been driving. The
water appears on the right-hand side (passenger side) close to the left hand
seat bracked on the floor. I know this isn't right! The only problem I have
is finding where it is coming in from. IMO it is coming through the heater
cahannel but I have no idea where from. There are no obvious leaks in the
floorpan so I assume it's leaking in and travelling through the channel.
Could anyyone give me some advice as to where it could be leaking in from. I
know that there are loads of places to look but I don't really know what to
do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated before my floorpan just falls off!!!
Many thanks in advance.

Dave

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SpecialVW

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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Dave,

First look at your windshield seal, then door seals, then look for holes in
your front wheel well. If you can dry the car out, then use a hose to find the
leak or leaks. Are the heat tubes under the car connected? If you remove your
carpet and passenger seat you may be able to find the leak after driving
through a puddle. Good luck!

Cheers, John
www.ghiaspecialties.com

John Willis

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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I know this isn't particularly helpful, but a friend of mine who lives
in London says of the Mini she used to drive while in college; her
Father drilled a hole in the floorpan so the water could drain.
Apparantly most all Mini's leak water horribly and this is the easiest
solution! Don't take this tack with your Beetle. It should not be
leaking, if worse comes to worse, wait 'till it isn't raining (in
England?) and do a check with a water hose, applying water to
particular areas to check where the leak might originate. Windscreen,
door seals, pan area, just anywhere conceivable. Good luck. When you
find the leak, the location will dictate the cure!

John.
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Alvin NG Boon Kim

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Hi!

sol...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Could anyyone give me some advice as to where it could be leaking in from. I
> know that there are loads of places to look but I don't really know what to
> do.

I need help too. There was this heavy storm about a couple of months back and
I drove through the deep side of the road. I guess Smurfette and I just wanted to
be the 'heroes' of the day, to drive in water when everyone stayed on the shallow
side. Well, we made it but when we got home, I noticed that the right front pan
(RHD in Singapore) was wet! It was noticably bad in the right rear seat. What I
did was to try soak up as much water as possible. I noticed the next morning that
the carpet has turned a rusty color. Can Smurfette rust overnight?

An interesting thing is that the left pan didn't let any water in at all.

My questions are: What damage is done?

Can I reverse the harm?

How can I find the exact spot where the water is
coming from? (My friend suggested to fill her up with
water and look underneath to see where water
comes out. It sounds extreme. Has anyone got a 'tamer
idea?)

Or should I wait till 2001 when hopefully after
'selling' myself to pay for the COE, I still have the money
and energy to restore her?

Many Thanks!

Alvin.

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Yance Wong

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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could be sunroof?
there are drain holes that run to the front and the back..these rust out
over the years and drip down the sides. best bet is to drill holes beneath
battery under rear seat to let water out. that's what i did.problem solved.

Allan Williams

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Hi Alvin,

Prolly what happened is that the water went in the drain hole in the bottom
of your pan, and came out around the pedal assembly. Pull up the carpet, and
put it out to dry. Check the floor. If it has the paint worn off, it will
start to rust the instant water contacts it. When I was the cars, the brake
disk's rust in about 10 miutes.

If the paint has worn off get some POR-15, or other GOOD paint. Rmove the
rust and paint it, whaen it is dry!

The drain hole is near the back, just in front of where the pan splits into
the "forks" that hold the trans.

It is better to slow the rust now, than to wait until you can do a full
resto. My car has lots of patches, and sealing gunk on it - so that when I
can afford to do each car, it is in *slightly* better condition, and I have
less work to do.

You might also want to check under the wheel arches for holes, and make sure
the front hood seal isn't leaking. Water can get in there, and leak down the
side where it will rust the top of the heater channel and then fill it with
water. BAD!

Bye!
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Per Jørn Berg

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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I had a similar thing happening to me when my 56 Oval still was in use.I hit
a DEEP puddle in moderate to high speed.Not only did the car take in water,I
was soaked from the spray of water comming up around the emergency brake
lever.I drained and dryed car for a closer inspection from underneath.First
check around the frame head to see if all rubber grommets are there,and
intackt.This goes for the master brake cylinder and rearwards brake line +
gaz.line also check to see if the fenders have their one way rubber valve
intackt on the bottom of the "light housing" also check the rubber wiring
grommet from fender to body.Also check for any other "holes" in the pan
head.I have sucsessfully used rubber grommets/boots used by electrichians in
hard wire household type fuseboxes.Moving to the back of the car,there is
plenty to look for.First check tranz.to pan seal ,then the outcomming heat
adjust wires,clutch bowden cable rubber grommet,outcomming
gaz.Line.outcomming rear brake line and last(to my Sidney flue attacked
brains to remember) the outcomming emergency brake bowden cable line.A last
memmory test:the battery cable to pan rubber grommet.

Joern Berg.

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