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Randy Hardin

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Jan 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/26/00
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Does anyone know anything about the new reproduction Kubelwagen made by
Intermeccanica International of Vancouver, BC, Canada? I saw a picture
in Hot VW, February 2000 issue. Sure is cool looking! Just wondering
what the price is.


http://community.webtv.net/ranhard/doc


ralph lindenfeld

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Jan 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/26/00
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Making a repro Schwimmwagen shouldn't be an impossible undertaking.
Main problem is finding someone with a Schwimmwagen willing to dismantle
it, wax it down and make a fiberglass female mold of it. I've done this
myself, making a kevlar / fiberglass canoe with a male plug mold, and it
came out quite well. A female mold would render a much better surface
resolution. Damn, that would be fun.. come to think of it, I'd be
willing to do the mold work..

Just imagine... a Kevlar bodied Schwimmwagen, based on a late model
beetle or safari body... it would weigh a pittance, and go virtually anywhere...

Vw67lives wrote:
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> I haven't heard about a repro kubel, but it sounds very cool. When someone
> makes a reproduction Schwimmwagen....sign me up! Fred 67 bug

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Baja1641

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Jan 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/26/00
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okay , you got me fired up!! I would just love to have a schwimmer! I am
been thinking of some sort of baja amphibious conversion...

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Randy Hardin

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Jan 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/26/00
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Repo..kubelwagen in hotvws page87 feb 2000 issue very Cool


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Vw67lives

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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I haven't heard about a repro kubel, but it sounds very cool. When someone

Kaferdave

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Bruce Meyers, of Meyers Manx fame, made a fiberglass Kubel replica right
before he went out of, or was put out of, business. It is now owned by Andy
Felix, of Vista Glass, in Vista, CA. Interesting side note- I asked Bruce
where he got the Kubel to copy, and he said that he rented it for one week from
a movie studio, for $500.00. The studio said, at the time, that for another 500
bucks, he didn't have to bring it back, and Bruce didn't do it.... ooops.

P.J. BERG

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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What about the first gear all wheel drive, and the propeller shaft? Would'nt
be much fun without that would it?
Anyway, as a digression, there is a "fake", more like a copy, Komandeur(sp?)
wagen in Norway, used to be in Oslo.
I have not seen the car for several years, the story is that the builder
were allowed to partly dissasembly the real thing to take measurements, make
molds etc.
It is so close to the real thing I almost thrashed my -56 staring at it
while passing it parked in town(City that is). It even had the original
close to compact (as in density) original tires, I was a dicks distance away
from getting a set of N.O.S. ones myself as a friend of mine's father was a
WW2 resistance officer, with family working at the war museum of Oslo.
Unfortunatly some twath knew the true value of these, I'm still to this date
kicking myself for that one.

J.


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"ralph lindenfeld" <ralph.c.li...@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote in
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> Making a repro Schwimmwagen shouldn't be an impossible undertaking.
> Main problem is finding someone with a Schwimmwagen willing to dismantle
> it, wax it down and make a fiberglass female mold of it. I've done this
> myself, making a kevlar / fiberglass canoe with a male plug mold, and it
> came out quite well. A female mold would render a much better surface
> resolution. Damn, that would be fun.. come to think of it, I'd be
> willing to do the mold work..
>
> Just imagine... a Kevlar bodied Schwimmwagen, based on a late model
> beetle or safari body... it would weigh a pittance, and go virtually
anywhere...
>
> Vw67lives wrote:
> >>

> > I haven't heard about a repro kubel, but it sounds very cool. When
someone
> > makes a reproduction Schwimmwagen....sign me up! Fred 67 bug
>

Pat Buchanan

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Hot VW's April 2000 issue is supposed to
have an article about it.

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Jan Andersson

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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"P.J. BERG" wrote:
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> I was a dicks distance away from getting a set of N.O.S. ones myself


Would that be like.. "no chance in hell" or "I had them in my hand"..
:-)

(Uhh, please do not answer, I don't want to know)
Jan

VolksFiend

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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...why don't you just bid on the real Kubel on E-bay...its at $5900 right
now...

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=245343743
..Gareth

ralph lindenfeld

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Like I said, I'd do the mold work... someone else can deal with the all
wheel drive stuff... synchro from a rolled Audi?

"P.J. BERG" wrote:
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> What about the first gear all wheel drive, and the propeller shaft? Would'nt
> be much fun without that would it?
>>
>

Robert Hall

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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This would be perhaps the Schwimmwagen owner to contact
at......www.know.demon.co.uk/schwimmwagen............there would be no dissassembly
required!!!!
Robert Hall
74 THING

ralph lindenfeld wrote:

> Making a repro Schwimmwagen shouldn't be an impossible undertaking.
> Main problem is finding someone with a Schwimmwagen willing to dismantle
> it, wax it down and make a fiberglass female mold of it. I've done this
> myself, making a kevlar / fiberglass canoe with a male plug mold, and it
> came out quite well. A female mold would render a much better surface
> resolution. Damn, that would be fun.. come to think of it, I'd be
> willing to do the mold work..
>
> Just imagine... a Kevlar bodied Schwimmwagen, based on a late model
> beetle or safari body... it would weigh a pittance, and go virtually anywhere...
>
> Vw67lives wrote:
> >>
> > I haven't heard about a repro kubel, but it sounds very cool. When someone
> > makes a reproduction Schwimmwagen....sign me up! Fred 67 bug
>

schwimmwagen

Randy Hardin

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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jadu...@nmsu.edu

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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How about a reversed Subie drivetrain? I was planning on putting one in a
Baja, but a Kubel or Shwim would be even better. (and yes, I have figured
out how to get around the rotation problem) Could put a type 1 motor on
the subie tranny, and it would have the original style... I'd be willing
to build two drivetrains if you want to build two bodies...

-james


> Like I said, I'd do the mold work... someone else can deal with the all
> wheel drive stuff... synchro from a rolled Audi?
>
> "P.J. BERG" wrote:
> >
> > What about the first gear all wheel drive, and the propeller shaft? Would'nt
> > be much fun without that would it?
> >>
> >

ralph lindenfeld

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Sounds like an equitable trade. Just need to find a willing body for
the mold. Robert Hall suggested www.know.demon.co.uk/schwimmwagen as a
place to start looking for a 'model'.
The fiberglass/kevlar shell would not be structural, which would
require reinforcing (baja cage?) the pan of the donor vehicle.
Dunno about flying to England though.. that would get pricey..

Hey... you live just down the road from me!!

jadu...@NMSU.Edu wrote:
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> How about a reversed Subie drivetrain? I was planning on putting one in a
> Baja, but a Kubel or Shwim would be even better. (and yes, I have figured
> out how to get around the rotation problem) Could put a type 1 motor on
> the subie tranny, and it would have the original style... I'd be willing
> to build two drivetrains if you want to build two bodies...
>
> -james

ralph lindenfeld

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P.J. BERG

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Well, this most be the most informative post of the month.
Hint : set your news reader to include the original post, otherwise it does
not mean didleysquat to any of us.

J.

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> Yea Right
>
>
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/ranhard/doc
>

PJ

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Jan 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/27/00
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Heh heh; he said "real" heh heh....
That's a 59/ 60ish beetle; other than the body and top frame.

KDFman

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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The place that makes the steel Kubels said they were going
to start making a Schwim kit also. Never materialized though.

Four wheel drive isn't that important.
A locking differential is more than enough.

Someone already Repros the whole propeller assembly in Europe.

Tim


ralph lindenfeld wrote:
>
> Making a repro Schwimmwagen shouldn't be an impossible undertaking.
> Main problem is finding someone with a Schwimmwagen willing to dismantle
> it, wax it down and make a fiberglass female mold of it. I've done this
> myself, making a kevlar / fiberglass canoe with a male plug mold, and it
> came out quite well. A female mold would render a much better surface
> resolution. Damn, that would be fun.. come to think of it, I'd be
> willing to do the mold work..
>
> Just imagine... a Kevlar bodied Schwimmwagen, based on a late model
> beetle or safari body... it would weigh a pittance, and go virtually anywhere...
>
> Vw67lives wrote:
> >>
> > I haven't heard about a repro kubel, but it sounds very cool. When someone
> > makes a reproduction Schwimmwagen....sign me up! Fred 67 bug
>

jadu...@nmsu.edu

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Jan 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/28/00
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> Sounds like an equitable trade. Just need to find a willing body for
> the mold. Robert Hall suggested www.know.demon.co.uk/schwimmwagen as a
> place to start looking for a 'model'.
> The fiberglass/kevlar shell would not be structural, which would
> require reinforcing (baja cage?) the pan of the donor vehicle.
> Dunno about flying to England though.. that would get pricey..

The only problem I see is getting the tub and pan to seal. (I'm assuming
that it does need to be water tight, as it would be amphibious.) If the
tub was molded around a tube frame, then it would be structural and would
be easier to make watertight. If you left the bottom part of the tunnel
open, with a tube from the inside frame running down the side of each,
then you could put the front driveshaft, shifter, brakelines, etc through
easily. Then you could cover up the bottom opening with a structural
plate bolted to each side rail, enclosing the tunnel while still making it
water tight and easy to work on. The suspension attachments could run
from the outside, through the shell, into the tube frame. They would
sandwich the shell between the suspension and frame with the liberal use
of a silicone sealant, making a very strong, watertight connection.
I was thinking of this project last night, and I think that I have
a pretty good idea of what it would take to adapt the outdrive of a boat
to the crank of a rear mounted motor. I just printed out the blueprints
from the site mentioned, and I'll see what it will take to adapt the
drivetrain and frame into that tub.



> Hey... you live just down the road from me!!

Are you in Albq.? I'm in Las Cruces. Actually, I run the Manufacturing
Lab at New Mexico State, and I might be able to get the students involved
as a design project for them. I also have contacts in the Automotive
Technology program at the local community college, so we might be able to
enlist their aid, also.
What end goal do you have for this idea? I'm picturing sort of a
neo-classic, where the original styling is mostly maintained, but built
with more modern components and materials. Possibly even could be
marketed as a kit car if it came out well enough...

Let me know what you think...
-james


jadu...@nmsu.edu

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Jan 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/31/00
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> I'm a freelance writer based in Flagstaff, AZ. Keep me informed on the
> progress. I'm sure I could get a nice article printed in VW Trends... even
> before you guys are done. You know, the school kids and all make a great
> angle.

Well, I'll keep you informed. Probably won't come up with anything
concrete until summer, so things may change in the meantime...

> I wish you much luck... hope you can find a 'model' nearby. Isn't there a guy
> in AZ that has a Schwimmer?

Well, I don't know of any off-hand. Never seen a real one myself.
However, I'd appreciate any leads... Do you have any morinfo on that guy
(e.g. town, club affiliation, etc.)? Anyone else have any idea where we
might find one to look at?

Thanks,
-james


Kaferdave

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Feb 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/1/00
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>I'm sure I could get a nice article printed in VW Trends...

I would say that is a very safe bet. Build it, and we will come.

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