SURVEY: Top Speed w/VW engine
Oval55
How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
Jan Andersson
Oval55 wrote:
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
115mph, (estimate) dark, rainy night, 1700cc souped up engine, wide
wheels and 185/65 tires, stock suspension, lots of added weight up
front, slightly downhill. Can't remember the wind conditions. Speed was
estimated by my friend sitting in the passenger seat, I was too afraid
to take my eyes off the road... (Speed limit 55mph)
The speedo max was 160kph, (99mph) and the needle went almost all the
way to the stopper pin below the zero mark.
Never had the balls to try top speed again, not with that suspension.
(stock height, shocks, everything. Drum brakes)
The car was a -74 cal look beetle. Sold it around 94 or 95.
jan
Priit Pödra
140 kph (86 ... 87 mph)
Stock 1973 Beetle 1300 (double port), except the 009. 125 000 km on the car.
A nice sunny Summer day. the road was level. no big wind.
The car really needed driving.
It seemed, that she wanted to go more, but I got the strange smell in the
saloon (probably from outside the car) and I released the pedal.
The 009 was timed at the total advance of 32 deg BTDC at 2500 RPM
I don't remember the tacho reading, it should have been somewhere
between 4000 and 5000 RPM.
my best wishes
Priit Podra
'73 Beetle 1300
905MAD
Dave.
Oval55 wrote:
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
speed 113 mph.Got a ticket for 122!Rpm was 5800 or so.Stock 65'
trans,Gears & ring & pinion.
I have a new engine & trans combo 1853cc's.4.12:1 gears and no speedo
only a monster Tach in the Dash.so far I can gather this much.I did have
my speedo in it for two weeks when the engine was breaking in.
1st 0-34 mph
2nd 34 to 68
3rd 68 to 92
4th 92 to 1??
This is with a rev limit of 6800 rpm
Last night I went heads-up with a friends 91' Volvo 740 turbo sedan.We
we're neck in neck in the first three gears but I have a far better
reaction time than he does so I beat him twice by Reaction time alone.I
think our cars are a even match.
Dave.
John Henry
Oval55 wrote:
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
135mph in my beater '68. Engine was actaully at idle.
My master cylinder had blown BOTH top plugs and I had no brakes. I was
on the Kancamangus Hiway going west into Lincoln NH, after the pass.
6.7 mi of 20%+ grade, it was pretty scary, but I did marvel at my speed
and took the time to clock it using my watch and the roadside mile
markers on a straight section. The speedometer had "let go" at around
105. I noticed some wheel wobble at 120.
I finally stopped after pulling the e-brake cable. At first there was
no effect, but the shoes heated up so much that the cores melted and the
whole hub smoked. I think a bearing eventually siezed and the whole
back end locked up. You can still see the skid marks, almost a half
mile long (ruined a set of Dunlops, BIIIGGG flat spot)).
Believe it or not, I just whacked the hubs with a breaker bar I carried
after they cooled and the thing started rolling again. I went carefully
home at 35mph, allowing plenty of space between me and the cars ahead
and using the gears (yes, 1st too) to stop. I got home and changed my
underwear, then I rebuild the brakes.
Those Beetles, I tell ya!!!
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John Minyard Saichuk
My '73 Super did 110mph behind a friend's '69 911 S on I-10. Trans was
stock '73 (w/ 3.89 r&p and .98 4th), and the engine was a 1641 w/cw crank,
Schneider #2 cam, big valve stock heads, header w/ short stinger, and 009
dist. Then I added dual 40's and tried again. I can't remember the tach
reading, but I do remember calculating that it would have been just over
115mph, without any tire growth. Oh yeah, this time it had a quiet pack
on it that always reduced top speed (something like 95 before). The car
would have gone faster, but the stock fuel pump couldn't keep up!
John
'73 Superbeetle
'68 Camaro SS 396
John Minyard Saichuk
John Minyard Saichuk (jsa...@tiger4.ocs.lsu.edu) wrote:
: My '73 Super did 110mph behind a friend's '69 911 S on I-10. Trans was
Oops! That's a stock .93 4th gear.
John
Mark Griffin
1972 Bug w/ 1600, no tach, 165-15 tire size, 009 distributor, S&S headers,
otherwise stock. I extrapolated between 90 - 95 mph. flat out after a 5 mile
run on a highway in the desert in winter. NOT RECOMMENDED - the fron end gets
REALLY light with the smallest bump . . .
Mark
Telepath wrote:
> ova...@aol.com (Oval55) wrote:
>
> >How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> >specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
>
> On both of these, no tach but stock tranny...
>
> 1974 Bug, 34-Pict3 carb, 009 ignition, 1600
> 89mph while passing, emergency cuz I saw a truck coming :-)
>
> 1966 Bug, 28-Pict-1 carb, stock ignition, 1300
> 74mph on interstate -- hey, it's old!
>
> Telepath
>
> tele...@geocities.com/urap...@hotmail.com
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6107/
> '74 Type 1, daily beater, "Zero"
> '66 Type 1, in resto mode, "Untitled" :-)
> Who needs those weird cars with all the water?
Jim
Oval55 wrote:
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
1200 CC single port, stock carb. About 135 mph 6900+ RPM. (FV)
Jim (SR Racing)
Telepath
ova...@aol.com (Oval55) wrote:
>How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
>specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
On both of these, no tach but stock tranny...
Jeff Scarbrough
On 27 Feb 1998 08:13:23 GMT, ova...@aol.com (Oval55) wrote:
>How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
>specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
Back in the 70's, I used to wedge a tennis shoe between the
accelerator pedal and the heater lever on my 64 Bus...
We used to get about 85 mph out of the old 40-horse while drafting a
truck...
I am, of course, older and wiser now.
Jeff Scarbrough
1967 Westfalia, 1967 Double Cab Pickup -- spot a trend?
John Rafferty
85 mph 1971 bus 1600 dp stock.
JSokolo102
Don't get me started!!!!!
1978 bus down hill, west side of Eisenhower Tunnel, summer of 1995 going to
Moab. The speedometer passed 90mph and kept going around the to the left.
There is a stop in the speedometer head. I would guess I was going about 100
if you could estimate it. I don't remember where the tach was, I guess 4400
rpm. This was a stock 1980 motor in a '78 van. Yes, you have to do some
modifying. Passing Vail I had a flat tire! That was about 40 miles past the
speed run!! And a valve seat dropped in Moab, but I made it back to Denver on
3plus cylinders.
JOE
'70westy
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
79 MPH on a 1776 '68 Bug.
With stock 30 pict carb, stock single port heads and exhaust. I really need
new heads & exhaust!
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cgarr
about 75 mph all stock 1600 1972 sb vert with 68,000 miles level with no
headwind top in watertite position. steel tires at 35 lb pressure.
cg
Oval55 <ova...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Jan Andersson
Jim wrote:
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> Oval55 wrote:
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> > How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> > specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
>
>
> Jim (SR Racing)
Whatta...?
135mph with a 1200cc no way...!
What kind of mods? Who towed you? :)
jan
MY POUSTO
1973 Thing stock: right around 70.
1973 Thing with dual Kadrons, 009 and oil filter: maybe a little over 75.
1961 VW on Mexican hightest gasoline, in 1964, with slightly bad valve, at
6,000 feet above sea level, after several cervezas: somewhere between 65 and
70, who cared? It ran better at sea level (acapulco) and worse going over the
mountains to Mexico City.
Barry
John Connolly
cgarr wrote:
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> about 75 mph all stock 1600 1972 sb vert with 68,000 miles level with no
> headwind top in watertite position. steel tires at 35 lb pressure.
>
> cg
Those steel tires must give one HELL of a rough ride!
For those that didn't know, vert's have a lower top speed due to
aerodynamics.
John
Dave Hall
>> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM
and engine
>> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
Stock 1600 Type 3 Fastback, injection, 115,000 miles (history
unknown, but had dropped a valve at some point judging form the bits
of piston that come out from time to time with the oil-change).
Indicated 93 mph, on level motorway for many miles. Milometer
checked out pretty close based on (km) posts, about 2% fast, so I
guess that makes it 91 mph, at about 4,500 rpm.
Dave.
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(Oval55) wrote:
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> How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
> specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
Lets see, I've owned 29 beetles. (Only got three at the moment though.)
In my foolish youth I have had standard 36hps wound well of the clock. One
occasion that really comes to minds was when I had my 69 with a rebuilt 1600
single port flat out at indicated 85mph. A friend driving my 58 36hp passed
me with a good margin. Trouble is the speedo only goes to 80. I used to
try to get them to go all the way to the pin, but could never quite get there,
although I did go close.
Never been as fast in any of my other beetles, even with a 2180. Something
funny about those oldys.
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On February 28 1998, John Connolly <con...@sisna.com> wrote:
> For those that didn't know, vert's have a lower top speed due to
> aerodynamics.
The 1303 I had would do 130 Km/h with the roof open, 135 if you bothered
to put the cover over the folded Karmann part of the body.
Closed it would do a 145+ by it's own means easy, stock 50 Din HPs
slightly helped by a Sauer&Sohn equal lenght exhaust system with 4 open
end-mufflers in stead of the legal inner two. (To pass the TÜV, I put 2
DM coins behind the outer ones.) 175/70 R15 on steel wheels.
For circumstances like slipstreaming or going downhill I have seen the
needle vertically down at 50% Odometer many times.
And it has been said before, if you will open the engine lid when
refueling after 2 and half or 3 hours off full throttle, go for a pee
and a coffee, then it will restart better...
Personally I would just let it run while refueling and drive off with
the coffee in my hand. Yet I have allways been very "religious" about
cooling the engine (and myself) down during the last 10-15 minutes of a
multiple hour "full throttle when possible" trip. Not just letting the
the power off suddenly, more something like decompression in deap sea
diving. Gives you the time to mentally change gears from driving to
what's waiting for you at the end of the trip AND gives your engine the
opportunity to build down the heat that causes this ugly snapping sound
the engine makes after it has been shut down hot.
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Back when I was stupid and younger, I drove my pure stock '73 super
down a hill (Upstate NY) and pegged it with three other poeple in the
car. Gravity was my friend that day, so where my fresh brakes.
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Rick Phillips
71' 1600 Dual Port never could quite get to 90MPH when it was new or after
the first 100,000 :)
Rick
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Mashek
Along with that, back when I was stupid and younger would regularly
peg my '75 Super (with 009 distributor and dual Weber 34's) and hold
it there for the 40 minute drive to where my girlfriend at the time
lived. I noticed a couple of times when I had three other people riding
along that I could get about 5 mph faster. My only guess is the added
weight held the car down a little better??? I also only did this during
the winters. Not much chance of an air cooled car overheating when the
temp is -30F here in South Dakota (before the wind chill!)
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On 27 Feb 1998 08:13:23 GMT, ova...@aol.com (Oval55) wrote:
>How fast have u gone with your Vdub?? please state approx. RPM and engine
>specs, and body type. thanks, Mike
Stock '64 40hp Bug, with koni adjustables and 195/60s:
72 mph on the flat, no wind.
85 mph on a long shallow downhill gradient. ---- RPM ?? Dunno, it was
bloody loud though !!
Pat (now partially deaf ;-) )
Bugman73
"In my younger years . . ." as you guys would say. Well, I'm probably
still in my younger years, as I'm in college. Anywho, I got my '73
stock SB (dual port 1600) up to 94. Only mod was a Monza quad exhaust.
Didn't want to push it any further. Thought the damn thing was going to
shake itself apart! Don't know if the speedo was reading right either,
lowered the front end 4 inches. 135's in the front, 165's in the rear.
Was pretty scary, don't do that stuff anymore. 75/80 is max for now, at
least until I get my 914 engine in.
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'73 Super
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Joe Cali - Next Generation
I have a 914 in mine and you won't want to go any faster. You just get
there alot faster.
The land speed record for a steel stock bodied bug is 155mph using a 914
engine.
Joe
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John Connolly
Bugman73 wrote:
>
> "In my younger years . . ." as you guys would say. Well, I'm probably
> still in my younger years, as I'm in college. Anywho, I got my '73
> stock SB (dual port 1600) up to 94. Only mod was a Monza quad exhaust.
> Didn't want to push it any further. Thought the damn thing was going to
> shake itself apart! Don't know if the speedo was reading right either,
> lowered the front end 4 inches. 135's in the front, 165's in the rear.
> Was pretty scary, don't do that stuff anymore. 75/80 is max for now, at
> least until I get my 914 engine in.
>
> --
> -Craig
> '73 Super
> Bugm...@worldnet.att.net
> http://home.att.net/~bugman73
Craig, I'm just curious as to how changing the engine to a T-4 is going
to make the rest of the car safer at a higher speed?
BTW, I suspect the 135s were SMALLER diameter, indicating a slightly
higher speed on your speedo.
John
Bugman73
>Craig, I'm just curious as to how changing the engine to a T-4 is going
>to make the rest of the car safer at a higher speed?
>
>BTW, I suspect the 135s were SMALLER diameter, indicating a slightly
>higher speed on your speedo.
>
>John
Well, you got me on that one, it WON'T make her any safer. I'd probably
be looking at a beefed up sway bar and some disk brakes.
Concerning the speedo, maybe it was actually reading less than what I
was going, I don't know. I just said that I didn't trust it after I
lowered it. Thanks though.
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Dave.
John Connolly wrote:
>
> Bugman73 wrote:
> >
> > "In my younger years . . ." as you guys would say. Well, I'm probably
> > still in my younger years, as I'm in college. Anywho, I got my '73
> > stock SB (dual port 1600) up to 94. Only mod was a Monza quad exhaust.
> > Didn't want to push it any further. Thought the damn thing was going to
> > shake itself apart! Don't know if the speedo was reading right either,
> > lowered the front end 4 inches. 135's in the front, 165's in the rear.
> > Was pretty scary, don't do that stuff anymore. 75/80 is max for now, at
> > least until I get my 914 engine in.
> >
> > --
> > -Craig
> > '73 Super
> > Bugm...@worldnet.att.net
> > http://home.att.net/~bugman73
>
> to make the rest of the car safer at a higher speed?
>
> BTW, I suspect the 135s were SMALLER diameter, indicating a slightly
> higher speed on your speedo.
>
> John
than with 165's.
Dave.
KAMAKOSKI
Date: Spring 1980
Car: '69 Cabriolet
Engine: 1600cc single port, running a mild cam, Holley Bug Spray, extractor
exaust, and 009 distributor
Place: country road 'tween Bonduel and Advance, Wisconsin (Shawano County)
Speed: 90MPH, indicated
Comments:
Obviously, I survived. I was coming home from high school and decided to "go
for it." Got it goin' to 'bout 85 real easy, then the rest of the way to 90
went slow. I saw the 90 just as it became imperative to stop, so as to avoid
the 20' drop facing me at the "T" intersection looming ahead. Honestly wondered
if I'd stop in time, but I did.
Epilogue: call me an old fart, but doin' 65 in the '64 is scary enough!
Steve
'64 Beetle
Peter Henderson
I once got up to 94 in my STOCK 75 Standard Beetle, and that was with the
vents open. Nowadays, it works real hard to make 80.
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Earlofpaul
1961 VW type 1,
My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold &
48IDA carbs, full circle crank, 7 lb flywheel, cam & ratio rockers, much much
more. 175hp on the ground @ 7500 rpm Depending on gearing and tire size I have
driven my bug at speeds over 120mph. no bull shit.
GKnighton
>My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold
>48IDA carbs, full circle crank, 7 lb flywheel, cam & ratio rockers, much
>more. 175hp on the ground @ 7500 rpm
My experience with VW motors is limited to Type 4 motors in 914's, but what I
read here scares me.
I got a few questions:
(1) With 48 mm carbs on an 1835 motor, what kind of fuel mileage do you get?
(2) With 48 mm carbs on that size motor, I suspect you don't have much in the
way of low end torque. Is that so?
(3) Where does the 175 HP rating come from? 175 HP in a 914 would probably
get you closer to 140 MPH, but of course there's probably a huge aerodynamic
disadvantage in the beetle.
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Dave.
Earlofpaul wrote:
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> 1961 VW type 1,
> My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold &
> driven my bug at speeds over 120mph. no bull shit.
How stable is it ovet 120?I've had my 65' sedan up over 110 mph but I
backed off because the car was starting to lift.this car is severly
lowered with 135's in the front and 195's in the rear.
Dave.
Jan Andersson
Earlofpaul wrote:
>
> 1961 VW type 1,
> My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold &
> 48IDA carbs, full circle crank, 7 lb flywheel, cam & ratio rockers, much much
> more. 175hp on the ground @ 7500 rpm Depending on gearing and tire size I have
> driven my bug at speeds over 120mph. no bull shit.
Everything else aside, (just NO comments on the rest) I find it easy to
believe your top speed. I got my cal look up to 115mph, with a 1700cc
engine and
one center-mounted dual throat 40mm Dellorto. (Plus a dual quiet pack
exhaust)
Jan
Allen Simpson
I have a 68 bug 1835 140 hp at 95-100 I have to straddle the center line
like a aircraft coming in for a landing. The car is all over the place. I
have tight steering, and KYB gas shocks no aero dynamic work. It's like the
flight dynamics of an F-4 with enough thrust anything can fly; but
maintaining the desired vector is another story.
Hank Zimmerman wrote in message ...
>In article <19980314084...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>earlo...@aol.com (Earlofpaul) wrote:
>
>>1961 VW type 1,
>>My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold &
>>48IDA carbs, full circle crank, 7 lb flywheel, cam & ratio rockers, much
much
>>more. 175hp on the ground @ 7500 rpm Depending on gearing and tire size I
have
>>driven my bug at speeds over 120mph. no bull shit.
>
>I believe you but my question is how you keep the front tires on the
>ground? At 80mph my '74 seems to be barely making contact in the front.
>
>Any aero work or lowering?
>
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>Hank Zimmerman wrote:
>I believe you but my question is how you keep the front tires on the
>ground? At 80mph my '74 seems to be barely making contact in the front.
>
>Any aero work or lowering?
>
>
>
The trick is to keep air from going under the car from the front. I made my own
spoiler for a bug once and it only was 2in. from the ground. It actually was
about six, but after I used plastic lawn edgeing on the bottom is lowered the
profile another 4in. This created a vacuum under the car at high speeds and
helped greatly. Formula 1 race cars have to have a vacuum under their cars this
just to keep the tires from burning off. It kinda looked like one of those
Mullholland kits in the front.
Ron
66 single cab (undergoing full restoration)
73 beetle (being customized eventually)
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My 1970 Bug, 1641cc, engle cam (110 I think), dual baby dells, 009 has
seen 115. I have one of the 150 MPH speedos that use to be available.
Front end is not lowered, although it looks lower than most stock bugs.
On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Hank Zimmerman wrote:
> In article <19980314084...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> earlo...@aol.com (Earlofpaul) wrote:
>
> >1961 VW type 1,
> >My daily driver Well kinda. 1835 cc, 42 x 35.5 heads, scat tall manifold &
> >48IDA carbs, full circle crank, 7 lb flywheel, cam & ratio rockers, much much
> >more. 175hp on the ground @ 7500 rpm Depending on gearing and tire size I have
> >driven my bug at speeds over 120mph. no bull shit.
>
> I believe you but my question is how you keep the front tires on the
> ground? At 80mph my '74 seems to be barely making contact in the front.
>
> Any aero work or lowering?
>