ARGH!!! Installing a Super-Beetle windshield
Alti...@ican.net
Oh man, I'm choked.
A friend and I tried re-installing my 73 Super windshield with new
Cal-look rubber, and we broke the damn windshield trying to install
it.
Assuming I can find another, whats a good way to get the sucker
installed?
For the other 3 windows, I wrapped a rubber coated wire around the
inside lip of the windows, and I slowly pulled it out from the inside
while my buddie was pushing the window from the outside. That worked
well, but not on the front.
HELP! :)
Alti...@ican.net
Additional:
I was just thinking, would it be alright to remove those long metal
clips along the inside of the window frame?
diver
Alti...@ICAN.NET wrote:
Just went through this. If you bought any aftermarket seal you have
to remove those clips. The channel in the seal isn't deep enough. I
just bought one from West Coast Metric and they explained this to me.
Once done the seal fits just like the original. Good Luck
Jeffry Johnston
: A friend and I tried re-installing my 73 Super windshield with new
: Cal-look rubber, and we broke the damn windshield trying to install
: it.
There is another post here that tells you what to do. All I wanted to say
is "no big loss" there just isn't anything like a brand new windsheild!
Alvin Johnston <--Libertarian
Jedi Knight
Re: Re: ARGH!!! Installing a Super-Beetle windshield> > A friend and I (clip) we broke the damn windshield trying to install
> > it.
> clip
> > For the other 3 windows, I wrapped a rubber coated wire around the
> > inside lip of the windows, and I slowly pulled it out from the inside
> > while my buddie was pushing the window from the outside. That worked
> > well, but not on the front.
I've installed a bunch of these and I do it the same way you described above
but I mix up soapy water and soap the inside of the glass chanel in the
rubber as well as the body (soap up the string or wire also). Put the rubber
on the glass and then with the wire in place so that the ends come out at the
bottom, seat the bottom edge of the seal first. Make sure it's fully seated
before you start pulling the string...if you can't move the wind sheild
aroundthen you don't have it soapy enough. Then work around slowly, aplying
even...I mean EVEN pressure on the glas from the outside...as you pull the
string or wire....When you get to the top corners you will have to adjust side
to side so that it will go in evenly. It works for me every time.
Rob Boardman
Alti...@ICAN.NET wrote:
>
> Oh man, I'm choked.
>
> A friend and I (clip) we broke the damn windshield trying to install
> it.
clip
> For the other 3 windows, I wrapped a rubber coated wire around the
> inside lip of the windows, and I slowly pulled it out from the inside
> while my buddie was pushing the window from the outside. That worked
> well, but not on the front.
>
Sorry to hear about the broken window, but it sounds like you're doing
it
the right way.
Have a look at http://www.geocities/com/motorcity/downs/2691/
He has some .jpg files (pictures) of installing window rubbers.
--
Rob
R.Boa...@bom.gov.au
Use this address - incorrect address above to fool auto mailers
(1970 1500sp, one owner, 236,000 miles on it's original engine)
Alti...@ican.net
>There is another post here that tells you what to do. All I wanted to say
>is "no big loss" there just isn't anything like a brand new windsheild!
>
>Alvin Johnston <--Libertarian
Heh!
That may be true, but I had until the end of the week to get a
replacement. A new one costs me $125 Canadian. If I can get a crack
free one for half price, I'll be just as happy. :)
I just ripped out those damn rails 20 minutes ago. It felt good.
(smile)
Thanks for the info, lads.
David J. Campbell Jr.
In article <347112...@nospam.com.au>, Rob Boardman
<no....@nospam.com.au> wrote:
> >Alti...@ICAN.NET wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh man, I'm choked.
> >>
> >> A friend and I (clip) we broke the damn windshield trying to install
> >> it.
> >clip
> >> For the other 3 windows, I wrapped a rubber coated wire around the
> >> inside lip of the windows, and I slowly pulled it out from the inside
> >> while my buddie was pushing the window from the outside. That worked
> >> well, but not on the front.
> >>
> >> HELP! :)
> >
> >Sorry to hear about the broken window, but it sounds like you're doing
> >it
> >the right way.
using a WIRE isn't the right way. Use a rope, approx one eigth to three
sixteenths of an inch in diameter, maybe slightly bigger, hopefully made
of nylon, and smear or spray silicone on the rubber where it'll need to
glide up over the metal ridge, and where it touches the rope. start
installing the woindow) at the bottom where the rope ends overlap each
other. wrap the ENTIRE window with the rope, and it probably wouldn't hurt
to silicone the rope itself, either.
Having a helper who knows how MUCH to press WHERE (from outside the car,
on the exterior of the glass) and WHEN helps, too. generally, his hands
(cloth covered, or wearing fabric gloves, to help them slide on the glass
some) should follow the ends of the rope as it is being pulled out from
the edges of the rubber, half of each hand just past the pull area, and
the other half of each hand just on the other side of the pull area. with
luck (and your helpers' dexterity) the glass should be pulled into place
equally on BOTH the passenger and drivers side "as you go"....
using OLD rubber, of course, is usually an "undoable do", because it's too
inflexable by now...and will crack when the rope is being pulled around it
inside ...
it's always a little nervewracking :-/
dave
Jeffry Johnston
Alti...@ICAN.NET wrote:
:>..."no big loss" there just isn't anything like a brand new windsheild!
: A new one costs me $125 Canadian.
: I just ripped out those damn rails 20 minutes ago. It felt good.
: (smile)
Eeeek! Mine was $45 (made in Kansas) and the west coast metric rubber
was $37(?)
Alvin Johnston <--Libertarian
jan andersson
David J. Campbell Jr. wrote:
> using a WIRE isn't the right way. Use a rope, approx one eigth to three
> sixteenths of an inch in diameter, maybe slightly bigger, hopefully made
> of nylon, and smear or spray silicone on the rubber
I have to disagree with this one, I'd say DO NOT USE SILICONE or *any*
other grease,
most lubricants NEVER dry, so you will end up with a very slippery seal
for God knows how long...
Another reason is that these lubricants (oil based at least) tend to EAT
RUBBER. Yes, they will damage the rubber in the long run. Silicone may
be a bit friendlier, and you can use it on the OUTSIDE once the window
and rubber seal are in place. If you must use lubricant, use soap water.
The water will evaporate with time, taking some of the soap with it.
This leaves a nice, dry surface, and you no longer risk "popping" the
window out. You might want to disagree with me, saiyng that the next day
it rains, water will go between the frame and rubber, wetting the dry
soap residue, and the contact gets slippery again... well that is
partially true,
but once the original soap water has evaporated, the rubber/frame
contact is pretty tight, not much water would get in. AND, even if it
did, the next sunny day will evaporate the water AND again some of the
remaining soap.
Compare this to the oil lubricants, that will stay there almost forever,
NEVER drying.
jan
Alti...@ican.net
Ah!
I finally got the windshield installed.
Okay.. here's an important tip we figured out...
DONT try to force the winshield near the top or bottom of the frame,
thinking you can get one end in, and weasle in the other end. Put the
wiindshield IN THE MIDDLE and that works fine.
I used wire and sprayed the frame and rubber with silicone.
BTW - I picked up a NEW windshield for $147.00 Canadian on a Thursday
morning before I went to work. Sure enough, I get home and there was a
message on my answering machine for a guy who wanted to sell me one
for $20. Naturally I bought the $20 and installed that, but now I
gotta take the new one back to the store. :)
LaRose Racing
'Bout those "metal clips" you described, along the window
frame??? (sheetmetal)
---I *had* to remove them on my Super Beetle, altogether, in
order to get the new windshield/rubber gasket in place. I don't
think the newer windshield rubber gaskets were meant to utilize
those things (the gap design at the sheetmetal just isn't wide
enough.
Michelle
LAROSE RACING
MARC TOUSSAINT
CORRECTLY. (unless you bought your rubber NOS from the dealer)
--
marc toussaint
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