What weight oil should I use in my VW?
Paul Lawrence Hamilton
>I have a '72 Ghia with the stock 1600 engine and am curious of which
>weight oil is best?
>I would think that 10w-30 would be too light?
When I was in Seattle, I used 20W50. When I came East to Connecticut,
I switched to 10W40 in the winter and 20W50 in the summer. Mobil-1
worked fine all year, but was a bit expensive. Worked fine for
street, autocross, drags. Below -10 F, you really need that Mobil-1.
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Dave Frey
VW67Fweems
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>From: Dave Frey <jsp...@earthlink.net>
>Date: Thu, Feb 4, 1999 08:15 EST
>Message-id: <36B99D68...@earthlink.net>
>
>I have a '72 Ghia with the stock 1600 engine and am curious of which
>weight oil is best?
>I would think that 10w-30 would be too light?
I had posted this same question last summer.
After highway use, the oil light would flicker. It was suggesed to use the
thicker 20W-50 in the summer and 10W-30 in the winter. This must have been
good advise because it worked. I have 10W-30 in it now. In the colder months,
I drive it on the highway with 10W-30 and the light does not flicker at all
after highway use.
Bill Berckman
67 Beetle
rjs...@calcube.com
>
> I have a '72 Ghia with the stock 1600 engine and am curious of which
> weight oil is best?
> I would think that 10w-30 would be too light?
Where do you live?
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the time. 10w30 works well in cold climates. Since I race a lot, I have done
quite a few tests with different grades and makers of oil. I'm not saying that
any one is superior to the other(everyone has his/her preferences), but I have
had excellent results with 20w50 Casrtol. The viscosity maintains itself and
oil pressure remains very good even when oil temperatures reach 230-240
degrees. I know this sounds like a high temperature for the oil to be, but
at6500-7200 rpms for 8-12 minutes on a 1/2 mile flat track, the oil sometimes
gets that hot and sometimes a little hotter. Try it you'll like it. No I don't
work for Castrol.
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Ken
Temperature is the guiding factor. See the chart at
http://www.w-p-c.com/buggyoil.htm.
I will mention that multi grade oils have a rep as not being good for
a VW. This is incorrect for the current multi grade oils. In fact,
they are recommended by VW. This misconception is left over from
years ago when multi grade oils were first introduced and the quality
was poor. The multi grade oils were not recommended back then for
that reason.
Ken
rjs...@calcube.com
Hi Ken,
Actually, the multi-grades were not specified by VW because they were
detergent oils. Old VW literature/owners manuals will specify a
non-detergent oil, usually 30W. Their reasoning behind it was that they
believed the detergent in the oil would continuously clean and then
suspend dirty particles in the oil, thereby causing premature ring and
bearing wear. This reasoning emanating from the same people that didn't
design an adequate oil filtering system for an air-cooled motor. Go
figure;) Multi-grades are definitely the way to go with 20W-50 being the
standard here in SoCal.
Eric and Allison Allred
20-w50 also. not that there is anything wrong with quaker, but i have
always prefered castrol.
maybe it has a subliminal connection with john force. i dunno.
eric allred
rjs...@calcube.com
>
> Robert,
>
> There is no doubt that VW recommended non-detergent single weight oil
> for the earlier year beetles. Eventually they did move to detergent
> oils and multi grades. My memory does not allow me to remember the
> year that this happened but I think it was around the time of the
> Super Beetle. Quite honestly I didn't read anything that said VW
> recommended multi grades, but I do remember that the Service Manager
> told me when servicing a '71 vert that VW had been recommending multi
> grades for sometime. I looked around for the Owner's manual for that
> car but couldn't locate it. I did run across the Maintenance Schedule
> Book for the '71, and much to my surprise VW was recommending &
> stamping the Oil change at 5000 miles. I guess I have read the
> manuals that recommend 3000 miles so much that I had forgotten this
> tidbit.
>
> Ken
I just get scared when I remember things I wish I'd forgotten.....<g>.
Eric and Allison Allred
supers for carbs
platnums for fuel injection
eric allred
John Connolly
>
> maybe it has a subliminal connection with john force. i dunno.
>
can't be, unless you blow your engine up or crash it every 3-4 times you
drive it!
John
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> I have a '72 Ghia with the stock 1600 engine and am curious of which
> weight oil is best?
> I would think that 10w-30 would be too light?
>
personally like Castrol 20w-50 better, I run it year round but I have lived
only in the warmer climates.
I prefer Bosch Super Plugs over Bosch Platinums, too. The Platinums always
seemed to result in a poorer running, hotter engine. I did no concrete
testing, just have tried the Platinums in my various VWs over the years from
stock 36hp to 1641cc and was displeased. The Supers are cheaper, too. :)
Later,
Everett Barnes
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VW67Fweems <vw67f...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990204095254...@ng60.aol.com>...
> Dave Frey wrote:
>
> ><HTML><PRE>Subject: What weight oil should I use in my VW?
> >From: Dave Frey <jsp...@earthlink.net>
> >Date: Thu, Feb 4, 1999 08:15 EST
> >Message-id: <36B99D68...@earthlink.net>
> >
> >I have a '72 Ghia with the stock 1600 engine and am curious of which
> >weight oil is best?
> >I would think that 10w-30 would be too light?
>
John Connolly
Incidentally, Bosch has a bitchin' new platinum plug called the Platinum
+ 4 . I'm sure it would work real well on an injected car. Now if they
would only make that plug in a copper!
John
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GazMP
In article <13004-36...@newsd-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
EAAl...@webtv.net (Eric and Allison Allred) writes:
>where i work i can get quaker state very cheap (free) but i run castrol
>20-w50 also. not that there is anything wrong with quaker, but i have
>always prefered castrol.
People often say to buy the most expensive oil will get you the best, which
doesn't aplly to Casrol as they spend so much on advertising we have to pay for
it. My favourite has always been Duckhams, but for a new rebuild I always put
cheap oil in just to run the engine up for a few hours before dumping it. The
oil not the engine.
Gaz
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Dave Hall
thought the HD stood for high detergent. Have I been wrong all
these years?
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Jonathan D. Armendariz
a VW? I have a '71 Super Beetle with, I think, a type 1 engine. Thanks
for the advice!
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Alvin NG Boon Kim wrote:
> Hello! Dave,
>
> HD stands for Heavy Duty.
>
> Alvin.
>
> Dave Hall wrote:
>
> > HD30 was certainly recommended by VW for the 59 Beetle. I always
> > thought the HD stood for high detergent. Have I been wrong all
> > these years?
> > --
> > Dave.
> > ---
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> >
> >
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Per Jørn Berg
motorcycles for a some years ,one learns that these are much more picky when
it comes to plugs compared to a car ,reasons for this are amongst others :
extreme power vs.cyl.cc's ,a very limited electrical system and a very lean
and extremely sensitive carb/injection setting.My experience with Bosch vs.
NGK (wich is MUCH cheaper) ,is that we had a much higher faliure ratio when
it came to Bosch plugs compared to NGK ,this goes for the platinium/silver
tip aswell .So unless the customer specificly asked for Bosch we always used
NGK and thereby also saved her/him a lot of $$.
When it comes to Platinium or super or what ever name they come up with ,it
DOES nothing performance vise (This have been proven by a very high tech
independent lab in Sweden) the only idea is to make them last longer.The
recently hyped multi tip plugs are nothing new at all.I have a friend from a
somewhat exentrick family (his mother used a two seater Bugatti with rear
only , hand aplied brakes as a daily driver up into early 70's) who amongst
others collects old spark plugs.
And several of his oldies are of the multi point/tip type.Actually a multi
tip plug will prevent maximum output ,this because the tip's are in the way
of the moving flame front ,hence limiting a full combustion.There is one
exemption from the rule however(there always is ,isn't it ?) and that was/is
a plug produced in Tschekoslovakia of all places (I feck'd the spelling
,there didn't I) I THINK (Alzheimer light!) it was/is called Brick ,this
plug did not have a side electrode att all , a bit like marine plugs or
Bosch R (racing only) but the center electrode protruded from the plug and
the shielding porselen where stepped and exposed the outer
"ground"/electrode twice ,so you actually got three sparks as it jumped
downwords and finaly out to the ground electrode.The same function as a MSD
box (multi spark discharge).This was the only plug that showed an actual
horsepower increase ,this was most notably in turbo engines running high
boost.They tested it on a Saab 900 turbo , and that showed an increase of 3
to 4 Hp.
Well this did not turn out so short ,I get carried away when I find a topic
that is interesting ;-)
I hope some of you found it interesting aswell.
Joern Berg.
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