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VW 1600cc Redline?

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Darren A. Asuncion

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Apr 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/29/97
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Hi,

I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at. If it
matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.

Thanks in advance for the help.

-Darren Asuncion
dasu...@geocities.com

Gml...@scvnet.com

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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Darren A. Asuncion wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
> engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at.

If you look at the speedo, you will see small tickmarks on the outer
rim. These are the shift points for 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4 upshifts.

Just not the RPM when the speedo is pointing at the shift mark, and that
will tell you what VW thought was the safest RPM at which to shift,
though it is probably pretty conservative.

> If it
> matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
> from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.

Why? The strainer has far more open area than the oil pickup, so it
doesn't restrict flow, the oil pickup will clog much more readily than
the strainer ever would, and the strainer protects the pump from
breakage by excluding everything that is too big for the pump to pass.

I can't think of any reason to go without the strainer, unless you like
to live dangerously.

George Lyle
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Priit Pődra

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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"Darren A. Asuncion" <dasu...@geocities.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
>engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at.

The "official" red line for a stock engine is around 4000 ...
4200 RPM.
I rev my 1300 stock engine with 009 up to 5000 occasionally,
but I always feel bad about it.

Priit
905MAD


Chris Allen

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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In article <3366E6...@geocities.com>, dasu...@geocities.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
>engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at. If it

>matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
>from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.
>
Redline is somewhere around 5500rpm. However, the cam (and stock carb,
exhaust) limits max power after 4500rpm. Running a stock Type 1 past 4500 is
a waste of time. Put the screen back in. Removing it does nothing except to
remove another line of defense.

Chris

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Keith Park

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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the factory ignition cuts for the 77 bugs and busses (rotors) were at 5400RPM

davewave

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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Darren A. Asuncion wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
> engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at. If it
> matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
> from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> -Darren Asuncion
> dasu...@geocities.com

Darren, max rpm for a stock 1600 is 5000 rpm. You can go over slightly,
but you'll have to be going downhill for this one. If you don't have a
counterweighted crank and weight balanced rods and pistons I would
suggest that you stay below 5000 rpm. If you don't give a damn and want
revs no matter what, what is limiting your rpms is the restrictive
intake and exhaust. Bolt on dual carbs and a header and you'll get more
power and higher rpms, but be careful of valve float.

Dave.

ka...@ix.netcom.com

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Apr 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/30/97
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The owner's manual for my '71 Beetle says,

"You can drive your Volkswagen at full speed from the first day. There
are, however, certain permissible speed ranges for the various gears:

1st gear: 0 - 16mph
2nd gear: 12 - 34mph
3rd gear: 22 - 56mph
4th gear: 31 mph and up =


When a particular traffic situation makes it essential to move rapidly,
you can accelerate up to 37 mph in 2nd gear and up to 62 mph in 3rd gear
for brief periods only. Bear in mind, however, that full throttle
acceleration raises fuel consumption considerably. It is more economical
to drive smoothly and keep the speed fairly constant. Very fast,
racy-sporty driving, alternating between full throttle and hard braking
will mean more frequent visits to a gas station and increased tire and
brake lining wear.

You can drive very economically between:

12 and 28 mph in 2nd gear
22 and 44 mph in 3rd gear
31 and 62 mph in 4th gear"

Enjoy :)

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MARC TOUSSAINT

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Darren A. Asuncion wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
> engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at. If it
> matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
> from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> -Darren Asuncion
> dasu...@geocities.com
Put that strainer back in there right away. Dont take advice from that
guy again. the strainer goes a long way in protecting that expensive
oil pump.
--
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slugbug - parts and restoration vw parts hotline: 972.313.0085
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Irving, Tx 75061-4059

vw_nut

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May 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/1/97
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Reply to: mik...@earthlink.net (vw_nut)

Responding to: bi...@pipeline.com (Chris Allen)

><5k7glv$b...@camel1.mindspring.com>In article <3366E6...@geocities.com>, dasu


>>Hi,
>>
>>I just installed a VDO tach on my 1600cc 71 Superbeetle (AE series
>>engine), and I was wondering what the engine redlines at. If it
>>matters, I have an oil pump w/ filter, and the strainer removed (on tip
>>from another VW person...-is this okay?), and everything else is stock.
>>

>Redline is somewhere around 5500rpm. However, the cam (and stock carb,
>exhaust) limits max power after 4500rpm. Running a stock Type 1 past 4500 is
>a waste of time. Put the screen back in. Removing it does nothing except to
>remove another line of defense.
>
>Chris

Thats a darn good answer! I believe it's something like.. within 500 RPM
of a redlined engine power drops off conciderably... That is why almost EVERY
stock car racer shifts 1000 rpm above shift point.. the car tends to drop off
in power a little and instead of short shifting into a lower power band.. they
shift later, just about when the MEAT of the power is for the next gear...
Besides with VW engines being air cooled and all.. Do you really wanna take the
engine to it's limits only to force it to go back???

Vw Nut...

Origin: Mike's Mess * 510-753-5869 * @511.FILEnet


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