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Protege 5 vs. SE-R (non Spec V)

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Adam Yan

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Nov 30, 2002, 6:26:41 PM11/30/02
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Hi all,

I'm in the market for sporty affordable car. My list boils down to these 2
cars. I haven't test driven yet, but I would like some newsgroup feedback
on these choices. Pros, cons, annoyances, etc. Any comments are
appreciated. Thanks.

PS: I plan on getting Manual Trans for both.


P5 2 NV

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Dec 1, 2002, 10:59:41 AM12/1/02
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If you test drive them both, you'll see that the P5 drives so much better.
The SE-R is not much faster and will not handel as well.
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Fillet Ming-Pu

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Dec 6, 2002, 10:39:09 AM12/6/02
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Just out of curiousity, why are you "in the market" for a front
wheel drive car?

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Dec 6, 2002, 2:50:23 PM12/6/02
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Fillet Ming-Pu cast electrons into the ether, and the following was the
result:

; Just out of curiousity, why are you "in the market" for a front
; wheel drive car?

I did not see any reference specific to anyone being "'in the market'
for a front wheel drive car", only that the OP has narrowed down a
choice for a sporty small car to the Protege5 and the Sentra SE-R. The
fact that they are both front wheel drive is neither here nor there.
Most cars now are front-wheel drive.

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Al Pine

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Dec 15, 2002, 5:25:18 PM12/15/02
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Test drove them both, and picked the Pro5 w/ 5spd. Had no complaints yet.
Maybe just a bit underpowered, but depends on your driving style. I still
end up going too fast.
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-= Dave =-

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Dec 16, 2002, 2:12:13 PM12/16/02
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I test drove the SE-R Spec V, and I was impressed with the power, but not
much else. My parents have a little P5, and the car handles amazingly and is
far superior inside with respect to layout, materials and fit and finish.
Like it was stated, a little underpowered, but a great car.

Now I am faced with the dilemma of choosing between an Altima 3.5SE and the
new Mazda6 for much of the same reasons!

cheers

Dave


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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Dec 17, 2002, 1:18:17 AM12/17/02
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Previously on rec.autos.makers.mazda, -= Dave =- said:

; Now I am faced with the dilemma of choosing between an Altima 3.5SE and the


; new Mazda6 for much of the same reasons!

Forget the Altima. Compare the 6 to the Maxima instead. I talked to
someone who took an Altima for a test drive and he said that it's too
top heavy, which leads to more pronounced body roll and a tendency for
it to resist turning. Apparently, this makes it relatively easy to do
the maneuver used in an early Altima commercial, where the driver spins
the car on a straight road. (This is definitely not the same thing as
the powerslide the Mazda6 does in the "desert 6" commercial.)

It apparently, to quote "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy", it looks
like a fish, moves like a fish, and steers like a cow.

For the record, the "someone" is a Mazda salesguy. However, I had not
mentioned +any+ Nissan as a potential competitor for my money, only VW
and Dodge. (Nissan does not have a feature I am requiring: a dual-mode
transmission.)

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CR-V

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Dec 19, 2002, 12:17:18 AM12/19/02
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I test drove the P5 AT with sport shift. It is fun to drive. I had 4
adults in the car and it just didn't want to go. The engine didn't want
to rev.

-= Dave =-

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:25:18 AM12/21/02
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Thanks for the input. see, I drove the Alty, and was pretty impressed with
the power of course, but I was expecting mych worse handling that I got.
Keep in mind that I am coming from a 93 Prelude VTEC that was all done,
suspension and everything, so I had pretty high standards. The Max is a
beautiful car, but just too big in my eyes, and I am dead set on a manual,
and to load up a Max to the spec of a loaded Altima puts it out of this
student's monthly lease range!

Either way, the 6 is amazing in the cabin and on the road. I have to test
drive the Altima again because the 6 has become a serious contender for my
money. I am still out there on the look of the 6, too. I don't know if I am
going to like driving a car that is so boy racer looking. I am in graduate
school now, and it might be a little tougher to take me seriously as a
doctor when my patients see me rolling around in a car that makes me look 22
again.

I just keep coming back to the Altima. If I do get one, it is going to get a
1.25 inch Eibach Pro-Kit drop, which supposedly does wonders for the
handling. I have until late January to figure this puzzle out!

Cheers
Dave

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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Dec 21, 2002, 3:32:37 PM12/21/02
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Previously on rec.autos.makers.mazda, -= Dave =- said:

(snips reassigned)

; Keep in mind that I am coming from a 93 Prelude VTEC that was all done,
; suspension and everything,
...
; I just keep coming back to the Altima. If I do get one, it is going to get a


; 1.25 inch Eibach Pro-Kit drop, which supposedly does wonders for the

...
; I don't know if I am


; going to like driving a car that is so boy racer looking. I am in graduate

It looks like you are contradicting yourself here. You're trading up
from a lowered(?) customized(?) pocket-rocket and will lower an Altima,
and you're concerned about looking like a "boy racer"? Unless the "boy
racer" look is what you're after, get a car that handles the way you
want right off the showroom floor.

You can get the 6 without the skirting, tail spoiler or larger wheels.
Together, they're the "Sport package", but the parts are available
independently. The only part of the sport package that you cannot get
alone is the fog lights integrated into the headlight housing, but you
can get the lower-grill fog lights either way on their own.

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-=Dave=-

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Dec 30, 2002, 1:53:43 PM12/30/02
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Actually, the ricer look is not what I am going for at all. My Lude was
rather tastefully modified. Not slammed, no supid wings, stickers or
bodykits. All my mods were done to increase the performance of the car, not
to make it stand out in a crowd. Maybe you would agree if you saw it.

Unless I am misreading your post, I also have to disagree with you that
lowering the Altima an inch will approach 'boy racer' territory. I'm sure
you know that most people that lower their vehicles for cosmetic reasons
rave more about the handling change than anything else. tat would be the one
and only modification to the car that I would consider. If I could buy a car
off the showroom floor based on it's handling prowess alone, I would need a
much larger amount of money than I have to deal with right now (Read: BMW
M3). True, I think the 6 will out-handle the Altima, but the Altima seems to
be a better value for the money, at least here in Canada, where they cost
about the same. Add a good set of high quality springs to the Nissan, and
the only leg up the 6 has is the interior. Put that up against the Altima's
engine, and it becomes a very even playing field, IMO. I have looked at the
6 with and without the body kit as well. It just looks unfinished without
the kit, and overdone with it. Just my $.02.

Cheers

Dave

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wolfi2

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Mar 1, 2003, 4:36:15 PM3/1/03
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The Protege 5 is underpowered at 130 hp. SE-R I believe has approx. 160-170
hp. Better comparison test would be between the Mazdaspeed Protege vs.
SE-R... as the Mazdaspeed is rated at 170 hp with Turbo.

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Mark Larma

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Mar 2, 2003, 9:05:16 AM3/2/03
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The mazdaspeed would beat a non Spec V, and smoke an automatic SE-R. The
Spec V and the Mazdaspeed are pretty evenly matched according to
www.car-videos.com. I'd paste the exact link, but the site must be
undergoing maintenance right now. Click on performance or something like
that and you can compare any two cars. Again, since I've never raced one,
I'm relying on that site for the data. The Protege 5 is a fun little car,
but the Spec V would obliterate it...as would a normal SE-R for that matter.

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NBR

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Mar 4, 2003, 4:20:45 PM3/4/03
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Can you tell me if Mazda uses, in their Proteges,  a "rubber band" to drive the over Head Cam?, or, a Chain ?

Thanks Neil Riggs Montreal
 

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