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Manu

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Jan 5, 2004, 7:57:03 PM1/5/04
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I recently purchased a 2003 Protege5. The dealer offers lifetime tire
replacements *IF* I have all of my routine maintenance done at the
dealer. So, I went ahead and signed up for a 3 yr 36K maintenance plan
for $569. The price seems pretty steep, but I think that it should pay
off if I get a set of free tires when the original ones wear out. Am I
right?
The tires on the car are P195/50 R16.

dooker

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:33:54 PM1/5/04
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It sounds like a good deal ... I would like to know about the tire
replacement portion of the agreement ...... read that part of the contract
carefully .... The maintenance cost is at full price at $569.00 ... I
would like to know if they replace the tires with the same brand & model or
"comparable" ...... the original Dunlop's (very good tires) are about
$170.00 each ..... (retail) ...


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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:42:36 PM1/5/04
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While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Manu said:

; I recently purchased a 2003 Protege5. The dealer offers lifetime tire

Does that plan actually pre-pay all your scheduled maintenance for
three years? If so, it's probably worth it right there, with the tires
being a good bonus.

Oil changes alone at my dealer, every 3k miles for 36k miles comes to
$360. Then add in the more expensive scheduled maintenance items, and
I'm paying at least $569 for service over 36k miles.

Just make sure that the tires are at least as good as the ones that
came stock.

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Dan

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Jan 5, 2004, 8:45:31 PM1/5/04
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I signed up to one of those maintenance plans for "tires for life"
cost's me an extra $10.00 each month or $720 total.

The maintenance plan only included oil changes for free, and I had to bring
my Mazda MPV in every 7,500 miles for each service. 30k mile service says
it is going to run around 500 bucks so I haven't gone yet.

I think with hindsight I would rather just do my own maintenance, cause I
have the ability, and buy my own tires.
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Manu

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Jan 5, 2004, 9:00:10 PM1/5/04
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Yes, the agreement states that the

"...tires will be replaced with the same brand and size (comparable tire
if the OEM tire is not available) when all 4 tires are at or below the
tread depth of 4/32". Your vehicle must have 100% of the manufacturer".

The OEM tires are Dunlop's. Three more questions:

1) is is safe to assume that "replacement" includes labor costs?

2) If OEMs are not available, what would be considered "comparable" tires?

3) How many miles should I expect to out of these tires?

Manu

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Jan 5, 2004, 9:04:50 PM1/5/04
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Yes the maintenance includes:
* Lube, oil and filter every 3 months or 3K
* Coolant system flush every 18 months or 18K
* Tire rotation every 6 months or 6K
* Transmission service every 30 months or 30K
* 15 point inspection every 3 months or 3K

Timothy J. Lee

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Jan 6, 2004, 1:59:36 AM1/6/04
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Find out how much replacing the tires with the same make/model/size
would be (you can try tirerack.com for prices -- add about $20 per
tire for mounting and balancing). Try to find an estimate on how long
the tires will last. And check the wording of the tire deal on what
replacement tires will be used.

Look in the owner's manual for the manufacturer's service schedule
and call around for prices on each of the services listed. From that
you'll be able to figure out how much the maintenance should cost, and
whether the tire deal is worth it.

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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jan 6, 2004, 3:01:31 PM1/6/04
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While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Manu said:

; The OEM tires are Dunlop's. Three more questions:


;
; 1) is is safe to assume that "replacement" includes labor costs?

Ask the dealer. It depends on the contract.

; 2) If OEMs are not available, what would be considered "comparable" tires?

Any of the major brands, depending on the model. I like Dunlop,
Michelin, and Pirelli best.

; 3) How many miles should I expect to out of these tires?

Check your owner's manual folder, there should be a brochure for the
tires that came on the car. It'll tell you what you can expect in
performance and longevity out of the tires.

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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jan 6, 2004, 3:05:10 PM1/6/04
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While idly wondering if the Pakmara can really do that, Manu said:

; Yes the maintenance includes:


; * Lube, oil and filter every 3 months or 3K

; * 15 point inspection every 3 months or 3K

The inspection should be included in the oil change interval, since the
car's going up on the lift anyway, and most of the inspection items
don't require the removal of any parts or covers.

; * Coolant system flush every 18 months or 18K


; * Tire rotation every 6 months or 6K
; * Transmission service every 30 months or 30K

So, you'll get one tranny service. 30k, though? Which of the three
transmission options do you have?

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Manu

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Jan 6, 2004, 7:50:06 PM1/6/04
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> So, you'll get one tranny service. 30k, though? Which of the three
> transmission options do you have?
>

The 4-speed sport mode auto tran w/ovedrive

dooker

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Jan 9, 2004, 7:24:46 PM1/9/04
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In miles.... with proper rotation & "normal" driving habits ..... you
should see approx 30,000 miles from the Dunlops .... which is respectable
for a performance tire ... I doubt the contract includes installation &
balance .... check the fine print ... there are three sets of numbers on
the side of "most" tires the first one is treadwear ... basically the
higher the number the longer the tire will last ..... the Dunlops are 360 I
think ... which is decent ... some tires like the Goodyear Aquatread 3 has
a treadwear rating of 650 .... and they wear like nails... but ... I
find they feather on the edges easily and get noisey .... which is common
for long wearing tires.... such as some Michelins... any ... nuff said
...

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jck

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Jan 18, 2004, 11:58:43 AM1/18/04
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One would not wear out the set of tires within 36,000 miles !!


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dooker

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Jan 19, 2004, 6:00:17 PM1/19/04
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Remember these are performance tires ..... less tread depth ... softer
compound ....

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