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pepe

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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Ok, everyone person here and on miata.net and their brother in law report
their fuel consumption to be 30 or higher MPG. Now how come I've owned
Paperclip for over 4000 miles and I've Never had better then 29 and I'm
averaging around 26-27 mpg. Is something the matter? For all I know it
runs fine.... I drive a little wildlier then tame but still not like a
maniac. I mean, I hit the redline in first and second on say, every eighth
time I'm in those gears. :)

oh yeah, about %60 percent highway miles too...

any thoughts are welcome,

bob
93 Paperclip

Jay

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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25mpg on my '97 seems about right. Perhaps I could squeeze out a few more,
but I'm not sure I want to try running my tank dry with the unregulated
sludge for gas we have here in Orygon.

pepe wrote in message <7mg9a4$4bo$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>...

Jason G

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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In article <2YNi3.441$D%.64703@news.uswest.net>, "Jay" <JBr...@dadco.com.spamyourself> wrote:
>25mpg on my '97 seems about right. Perhaps I could squeeze out a few more,
>but I'm not sure I want to try running my tank dry with the unregulated
>sludge for gas we have here in Orygon.

I've gotten 22-24, but my driving style isn't, uh, optimized toward fuel
economy. CA gas/emissions might have something to do with it too, I dunno.

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Jason G.
99 Emerald/Leather/AP2
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ALYSONSDAD

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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I regularly get 30 mph with my '97 miata.

Patz

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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The way I drive my '93, I get 20.5 mpg consistently. You're SUPPOSED to
redline your Miatae, people! :o)

Regards,
Patrick
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Brian Watson

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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pepe wrote:

> Ok, everyone person here and on miata.net and their brother in law report
> their fuel consumption to be 30 or higher MPG. Now how come I've owned
> Paperclip for over 4000 miles and I've Never had better then 29 and I'm
> averaging around 26-27 mpg. Is something the matter? For all I know it
> runs fine.... I drive a little wildlier then tame but still not like a
> maniac. I mean, I hit the redline in first and second on say, every eighth
> time I'm in those gears. :)

I typically get about 29 mpg in my '97, though I've gotten lower when driving
a little more aggressively.


Jim Carr

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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In article <2YNi3.441$D%.64703@news.uswest.net>,
"Jay" <JBr...@dadco.com.spamyourself> wrote:
}
} 25mpg on my '97 seems about right. Perhaps I could squeeze out a few more,
} but I'm not sure I want to try running my tank dry with the unregulated
} sludge for gas we have here in Orygon.

In article <7mgbto$kpp$1...@nnrp03.primenet.com>
jrgusen...@yahoo.ALLoooTHISoooTOoooREPLY.com (Jason G) writes:
>
[in a '99]


>I've gotten 22-24, but my driving style isn't, uh, optimized toward fuel
>economy. CA gas/emissions might have something to do with it too, I dunno.

My '93 is that territory for mostly very-short-haul city driving with
an autocross every tankfull or two. On the highway, it is more like
30-33 mpg (US miles and gallons) depending on weather and speed.

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Eric Lucas

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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pepe wrote:
>
> Ok, everyone person here and on miata.net and their brother in law report
> their fuel consumption to be 30 or higher MPG. Now how come I've owned
> Paperclip for over 4000 miles and I've Never had better then 29 and I'm
> averaging around 26-27 mpg. Is something the matter? For all I know it
> runs fine.... I drive a little wildlier then tame but still not like a
> maniac. I mean, I hit the redline in first and second on say, every eighth
> time I'm in those gears. :)

That'll do it.


> oh yeah, about %60 percent highway miles too...

Not necessarily good for high mileage. The higher the speed above that
needed to consistently stay in 5th gear (ca. 60 mph, for me), the lower
the gas mileage.

Eric Lucas

Jeff Remson

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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I get 25 mpg consistently on 100% city driving; tank to tank; octane to
octane; pump to pump; station to station; with little exception; no
difference with tune-up or any other associated maintenance.

I do, however, get 30 mpg on the highway.

Jeff 95CR

pepe

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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> That'll do it.

Hmmm. I was thinking... what is the "optimal" cruising speed of miatae?
I went on a month long cross country road trip on a Toyota Previa once.
We logged all the fillups and miles and speed (we had a gps and logged
Everything, the tripped served two purposes. Fun and some credit for
a class project :) ) We found the best speed to travel at and get the
best mileage was around 75. Pretty impressive for the big hunk of metal.
anyway. So whats the best speed? Oh wait....almost forgot, the miatae has
two modes. So we'll have to know the speed for both top down and up. :)

bob
93 Paperclip

Nathan Ramsey

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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I agree, I've seen everyone posting about how they always get 30 MPG...they
must commute on the freeway to work cause that's the only time I ever get
above 26 or so. Usually around town putting with occasional curvy road
blasts get me 26 MPG.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Nathan Ramsey
'91 Base silver/blue pearl
Portland, OR
www.eunosdriver.tsx.org


pepe <b...@angband.org> wrote in message
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> Ok, everyone person here and on miata.net and their brother in law report
> their fuel consumption to be 30 or higher MPG. Now how come I've owned
> Paperclip for over 4000 miles and I've Never had better then 29 and I'm
> averaging around 26-27 mpg. Is something the matter? For all I know it
> runs fine.... I drive a little wildlier then tame but still not like a
> maniac. I mean, I hit the redline in first and second on say, every eighth
> time I'm in those gears. :)
>

> oh yeah, about %60 percent highway miles too...
>

Dewey Decimal

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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hehe, thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better now :)
So it just comes down to... If you want to know how someone drives their
miata, just ask how much mileage they get :)

bob
93 Paperclip

James H.

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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How much the driver and/or passenger weigh also has an effect on MPG.
-James

Colin MacLean

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Jul 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/13/99
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I drive pretty quickly, almost always with the top down and I get around
25-27 MPG (if I'm lucky)
I suppose if you put your top up, and drove at 56 MPH all day you'd get 30
MPG... :( No thanks!!
Unless my Miata is afflicted with the same mysterious problem as yours I
think we're OK!!!

... Colin

93 white C-pkg

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Rexven

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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On 13 Jul 1999 23:42:46 GMT, Dewey Decimal <b...@angband.org> wrote:

>hehe, thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better now :)
>So it just comes down to... If you want to know how someone drives their
>miata, just ask how much mileage they get :)

Odd.. I wring out the tach more often than not and still get in the
mid30's. If I'm cruising to Deals Gap I usually get higher than 35mpg
on a regular basis while averaging over 90mph, top down and usually
lights up. Granted it's typically early in the morning (nice cool air)
but that shouldn't put THAT much of an effect on it.. Must be the
mods. :) '93 1.6

____________________
Red light means stop
Green light means go
Yellow like means drivelike mad because it's going to
turn red and make you stop!

Dewey Decimal

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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arg. See, it's these people that worry me :)
Something's gotta be wrong here. How in the world is it like this?
Have you done any mods? I'm bone stock besides some interior lights :)
hehe.

bob
93 Paperclip

Ron Grundy

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Like the discussion in the "handling" thread, the answer is in your tires. Get
bigger tires. The greater the diameter, the better the milage. Tho you may end
up with it looking like a mianster truck.

Ron '95 Merlot

MaxTomlin

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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I get about 29 in my '96 (mostly freeway in 5th gear)...but I'd be curious to
know the average RPM people cruise at i.e. low rpms or high? just wondering...

Rexven

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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On 14 Jul 1999 03:16:49 GMT, Dewey Decimal <b...@angband.org> wrote:

>arg. See, it's these people that worry me :)
>Something's gotta be wrong here. How in the world is it like this?
>Have you done any mods? I'm bone stock besides some interior lights :)
>hehe.

Yep, as the last section says "Must be the mods". I also live in Fla
which is quite flat and that might have something to do with it. You
don't waste gas going up hills, etc. The heat and humidity lately have
cost me nearly 5mpg though..

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/5029/

If you are interested.

Jason 00

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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I usually get under 20 MPG, but then again, I pretty much live in the
5000+ rpm range. I've had the car for over a year now, and I still drive
like a kid with a brand new go-cart on Christmas. Heck, I'm gonna be
without her for two years... mind as well have my fun now, eh?

Jason (who will promptly purchase a Mini Cooper S upon arrival in
England. ; )

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"Life is what happens to you while you're making other plans." - John
Lennon

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Jim Carr

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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In article <7mgitm$9vp$4...@news-int.gatech.edu>
Dewey Decimal <b...@angband.org> writes:
>
>hehe, thanks for all the replies. I feel a little better now :)
>So it just comes down to... If you want to know how someone drives their
>miata, just ask how much mileage they get :)

As I think I have mentioned before, going out to the autocross course
with only 1/8 of a tank is cutting it close. I can see the gas gauge
change after every run -- sort of like when you could watch the gas
vanish while driving an early 70s land yacht on the highway.

Wide open throttle does use up the gas. The throttle setting matters
more than the rpm you are at; the power the car is making at 4000 rpm
can vary by about a factor of 5.

Jim Carr

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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In article <378C0325...@home.com>
Ron Grundy <gru...@home.com> writes:
>
>Like the discussion in the "handling" thread, the answer is in your tires. Get
>bigger tires. The greater the diameter, the better the milage.

Other way around. Smaller tires means the indicated odometer reading
will be higher than actual distance traveled, creating the illusion
of many more miles to the gallon. You will also go faster.

Ron Rauscher

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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OK, it appears as though everyone who answered has a 5 speed. Am I the only
poor soul who cares about what an AT Miata averages? Mine gets 20.5 Believe
me, I'd prefer a stick, but I bought this puppy used, and got a smokin'
price. So, I'm stuck. I still like it a lot :-)

Eric Miller

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Hi Jason. I spent 4 years near RAF Lakenheath at RAF Alconbury with the
USAF. I took my '70 SS Chevelle over with me at their expense. Why are you
leaving the Miata. It sounds like you are only getting a two year tour
there, so maybe that is it. The Air Force may not ship vehicles for a two
year gig. Believe me when I say England is made for the Miata. Twisty
roads, lots and lots of curves, and practically no enforced speed limits. I
had a buddy get nabbed by a police helicopter doing 180mph on the M1 in his
Mercedes, but I was passed by a police car while doing 140mph(in my
Chevelle, not a Miata) on the A1. Every day commute traffic averages
90-100mph, and the trucks will run you over if you are going too slow. And
you can ferry over to Germany to play on the Autobahn. Don't try that in a
Cooper, you will get creamed. Have you priced a Mini Cooper S in the UK?
That is a freaking expensive car, and I never understood why. Might as well
buy a Jaguar XKE, or visit the midlands for a Lotus Elan. Ohh well, I am
rambling. The original question was "Why not take the Miata?".

16 days till The Gap!!!!
--
Eric & "Misty"
10AE #1262
Gateway Miata Club

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Ron Grundy

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Jim Carr wrote:

> In article <378C0325...@home.com>
> Ron Grundy <gru...@home.com> writes:
> >
> >Like the discussion in the "handling" thread, the answer is in your tires. Get
> >bigger tires. The greater the diameter, the better the milage.
>
> Other way around. Smaller tires means the indicated odometer reading
> will be higher than actual distance traveled, creating the illusion
> of many more miles to the gallon. You will also go faster.

I was thinking of real "better milage", not an illusion. Although you wouldn't know
it, 'cause your odometer would be off. and is that the illusion of going faster
with smaller tires? How small do your tires have to be to get a 130 MPH top speed
reading?

Ron '95 Merlot


Leon van Dommelen

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Jul 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/15/99
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Ron Grundy <gru...@home.com> wrote:

Leave off the wheels and tires completely and drive Mach 2 at 1000 mpg. ;)

Leon
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-------------------- Have Miata, will travel ---------- Michigan City
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SunRider

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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pepe <b...@angband.org> wrote in article
<7mg9a4$4bo$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>...

> Ok, everyone person here and on miata.net and their brother in law report
> their fuel consumption to be 30 or higher MPG. Now how come I've owned
> Paperclip for over 4000 miles and I've Never had better then 29 and I'm
> averaging around 26-27 mpg. Is something the matter? For all I know it
> runs fine.... I drive a little wildlier then tame but still not like a
> maniac. I mean, I hit the redline in first and second on say, every
eighth
> time I'm in those gears. :)

Well I'm getting 25-26 mph all around some city some highway.
I don't revvv it too much in the city because it draws cops
attention like a magnet. Of course I am just under 2k miles
on the clock so maybe it will get better?
--
~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
Snagglepuss
Red '99 Sport
~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jim Carr

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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>
Jim Carr wrote:
|
| In article <378C0325...@home.com>
| Ron Grundy <gru...@home.com> writes:
| >Like the discussion in the "handling" thread, the answer is in your tires.
| >Get bigger tires. The greater the diameter, the better the milage.
|
| Other way around. Smaller tires means the indicated odometer reading
| will be higher than actual distance traveled, creating the illusion
| of many more miles to the gallon. You will also go faster.

In article <378D330B...@home.com>

Ron Grundy <gru...@home.com> writes:
>
>I was thinking of real "better milage", not an illusion. Although you
>wouldn't know it, 'cause your odometer would be off.

Right. You would only notice the puzzle that it still took just
as much gas to make that long road trip....

>and is that the illusion of going faster with smaller tires?

Yes.

>How small do your tires have to be to get a 130 MPH top speed
>reading?

It is linear with radius (or diameter).

prmogul

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96
23-25 city
28-31 hwy

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