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Earle Horton

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:12:54 PM11/15/09
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Just checking in to see if the haterz are still hanging here. I don't see
too many. I put the Wrangler in the ditch last Friday, heading uphill in
four inches of wet snow. It turns out that part time fwd isn't so good in a
skid. We got a good foot of the stuff in Silverton over the weekend, but
today was sunny. Maybe tomorrow I'll stop in at the tire store.

Saludos,

Earle Horton

DougW

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:23:09 PM11/15/09
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Sometimes the only thing that stops a skid is a ditch or a tree. Been
there done that. Full time 4wd doesn't help much either. :/

Sounds like you survived it, that's the important bit. Jeeps can be
rebuilt.

Next time get some chains. :)

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DougW


Earle Horton

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:40:16 PM11/15/09
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"DougW" <I.only.re...@invalid.address> wrote in message
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No damage, and I got an assist in a couple of minutes. Last year I bounced
off a guard rail in slow motion and just scuffed the fender flares. Chains
front or back?

Earle

DougW

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:04:48 PM11/15/09
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Earle Horton wrote:
> "DougW" wrote ...

>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> Just checking in to see if the haterz are still hanging here. I
>>> don't see too many. I put the Wrangler in the ditch last Friday,
>>> heading uphill in four inches of wet snow. It turns out that part
>>> time fwd isn't so good in a skid. We got a good foot of the stuff
>>> in Silverton over the weekend, but today was sunny. Maybe tomorrow
>>> I'll stop in at the tire store.
>>
>> Sometimes the only thing that stops a skid is a ditch or a tree. Been there done that. Full time 4wd doesn't help much either.
>> :/
>>
>> Sounds like you survived it, that's the important bit. Jeeps can be
>> rebuilt.
>>
>> Next time get some chains. :)
>>
> No damage, and I got an assist in a couple of minutes. Last year I
> bounced off a guard rail in slow motion and just scuffed the fender
> flares. Chains front or back?

That's always an interesting question, there is a lot of conflicting
information out there. Some roads I've been on they want chains on
all four. What I've read says is if you are 4wd then chain all four
wheels or just the front. But some vehicles don't have enough
clearance on the front wheels and in my old truck I just chained up
the rears. 2wd, chains on the front wouldn't help a thing.

Been running cable style chains because the ZJ has some clearance
issues. I need a new set, mine have started to get iffy. Cable
chains just don't last as long as regular chains do. Looking at
the Shur Grip Super Z, but need to do a bit more research.

We just don't get that much snow here and it doesn't stick around
long. The few times I've used those were do to heavy ice. If I
lived back in Montana again I'd have winter tires with studs.

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DougW


PeterD

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:15:13 AM11/16/09
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Wrantlers can be a real handful in snow... I did the same thing
(fortunately there was no ditch, just a snow bank) with mine once.
Just touched the gas, and bingo, so fast I didn't have time to react:
I was spun around and headed 90 degrees to the left!

PeterD

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:15:44 AM11/16/09
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Both ends.

Jeff Strickland

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:56:12 AM11/16/09
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I thought chains should be on the drive axle only. In a Jeep, that would be
the rear because 4WD might be off, and the chains on the front in that case
would not do any good.

I'll go with the idea of putting chains on all four tires because there's no
such thing as too many sets of chains.

Mike Romain

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:44:01 PM11/16/09
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Hey Earle, how's it hanging?

Mike
2000 Cherokee Sport
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:45:56 PM11/16/09
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Hi hi Earl.
-Bill

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Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:20:48 PM11/16/09
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> Hi hi Earl.
> -Bill
>
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Still slurping Earl, Goatfucker? That's desperate.

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Lon

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:36:57 PM11/16/09
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The chains on the front tend to do good in the form of braking and
steering.

I just use studded snows and the egg on the gas pedal.

DougW

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:14:23 PM11/16/09
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Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:

> Still slurping Earl, Goatfucker? That's desperate.

Hey, look. It's Bill's personal fanboi.

pathetic.

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DougW


Square Wheels

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:18:45 AM11/17/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:20:48 +0000, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:

> "L.W.\(Bill\) Hughes III" <BillH...@billhughes.com> wrote in
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>> Hi hi Earl.
>> -Bill
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <ear...@live.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Still slurping Earl, Goatfucker? That's desperate.

True, but he was born desperate, Cujo.


SW


Square Wheels

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:25:03 AM11/17/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:14:23 -0600, DougW wrote:

> fanboi

Can't tell a gurl from a boi?

That IS pathetic.


PeterD

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:58:04 AM11/17/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:36:57 -0700, Lon <lon.s...@comcast.net>
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>
>The chains on the front tend to do good in the form of braking and
>steering.
>
>I just use studded snows and the egg on the gas pedal.


Egg... <g>

I always tell people to drive like they have a full crock of shit on
the seat next to them, and they don't want to spill a single drop. It
works.

One of the best drivers I ever knew could take a 3/4 full cup of
coffee, put it on the dash, get to the destination faster than anyone
else, and never spill a single drop. He was good... (Yea, I watched
him do it once.)

Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Nov 17, 2009, 6:28:35 PM11/17/09
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Square Wheels <SW@in_your_rearview.calm> wrote in news:q7sMm.2775$kY2.1288
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Goatfucker Bill was born st00pid and has been losing ground ever since.

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Cujo DeSockpuppet

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Square Wheels <SW@in_your_rearview.calm> wrote in news:kdsMm.2776$kY2.2714
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They don't get much dumber, that's why they still buy jHeaps.

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merrill

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:47:34 PM11/17/09
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Hi Earle

It's good to hear from you!

Merrill

Earle Horton

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:36:18 PM11/17/09
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I didn't spill the coffee but I still wound up in the ditch.

Earle

Earle Horton

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:40:48 PM11/17/09
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You too!

Earle

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Earle Horton

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:40:35 PM11/17/09
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Making fun of Jeeps, that destroys all your hard-won credibility in this
news group.

Earle

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Earle Horton

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:39:39 PM11/17/09
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I guess that answers the question about the haterz. :o(

Earle

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Earle Horton

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:38:55 PM11/17/09
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Good, just checkin' for haterz. In Facebook, there's people I haven't seen
in forty years. Some of them, another forty would be too soon. Hope you're
doing well. I get to see my grandchildren next week. Bring a credit
card...

Cheers,

Earle

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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:36:46 PM11/18/09
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Hi Earle,
Spoiling our Grandchildren is what we were put on this earth for!
http://www.billhughes.com/gibbons/ http://www.billhughes.com/larry/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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