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Matt Macchiarolo
Last night the wifey and I were talking Jeeps, and I mentioned in passing
that the 07 Wrangler would be a redesign, with a 4-door version, with
seating for five. She seemed mildly interested.
So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she loved
it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to get rid of
her TJL. :-(
I have to think long and hard about Yes Dear-ing this one. I bought some
time when I made the "you shouldn't buy a new design the first couple of
model years because of the bugs" speech.
If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
OK, not insist....more like beg.
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Matt Macchiarolo
mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net
AIM screen name RTI1182
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty."
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."
-Edward R. Murrow
"To announce that there must be no criticism
of the President, or that we are to stand by the
President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
twaldron
husband/wife-boss/servant thing. The TJL would have to be the one to go
in trade on the 4dr. Leave the SWB TJ at the crib. There will be no
more....ever.
tw
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2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Matt Macchiarolo
DL, though he doesn't know it yet. So it will probably stay in the family.
If we have to get rid of something, it'll probably be the Superduty, we
don't use it much anymore since we added the Excursion to the fleet:
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Nathan W. Collier
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> So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she loved
> it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to get rid of
> her TJL. :-(
i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
whats wrong with an auto?
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Matt Macchiarolo
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Matt Macchiarolo" <ma...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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>> So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler; she
>> loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she doesn't want to get
>> rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
I think maybe you may have misplaced them on your first "move" to Montana!
>
>> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>
Nothing, I prefer the manual to the auto off-road.
Nathan W. Collier
>> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>>
>
> I think maybe you may have misplaced them on your first "move" to Montana!
that didnt require giving up something of mine to suit her. anyway my point
was that if she wants one, have her trade her jeep for one. .......unless
you secretly like the new jeep more than youre telling us. ;-)
personally i havent ruled it out yet. i dont like some of what ive seen,
but im waiting to see one in person before i draw a conclusion.
twaldron
going to hand down the TJ, you'll start jonesing for another Jeep inside
6 mos., if you haven't already purchased one...but personally, I'd
always have to have a SWB one. The Excursion/F250 descision would be
easy for me. Keep the F250. :)
Matt Macchiarolo
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <ma...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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>>> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>>>
>>
>> I think maybe you may have misplaced them on your first "move" to
>> Montana!
>
> that didnt require giving up something of mine to suit her.
And you call yourself married. :-)
anyway my point
> was that if she wants one, have her trade her jeep for one.
> .......unless you secretly like the new jeep more than youre telling us.
> ;-)
>
Actually on paper it doesn't look so bad, V6 notwithstanding.
As I stated in an earlier post, I'll probably sell the Superduty if we
decide to get one, but if we do it will be 08 model year at the earliest.
My whole original post was really a tongue-in-cheek statement on how far
"Yes, Dear" can be taken.
Earle Horton
red faced screaming at service representatives, they will all be fixed.
Then you or you heirs will have the vehicle your wife wants. If she really
wants it, then accept the inevitable sacrifices and go for it.
Earle
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Matt Macchiarolo
(3 kids, 2 dogs); we traded the wifey's minivan for the Explurgin' , so we
could have enough pass room and the towing capacity of the 250 in the same
vehicle. That and the 250 gets 12mpg, while the excursion gets 20.
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Earle Horton
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <ma...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:nLadncXm0PBjK8_Z...@comcast.com...
> > So today I showed her the pics of it in the latest Four Wheeler;
> > she loved it. Now I might have to sell my TJ, because she
> > doesn't want to get rid of her TJL. :-(
>
> i gave up a lot when i got married, but not my nuts!
>
>
> > If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the JK.
>
> whats wrong with an auto?
>
More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv
I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
> The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> down the grades. My wife (in her Jeep Cherokee behind
> me) had to back off because her eyes were watering
> from the fumes generated by my burning brakes.
And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.
> by the time we got into montana, the wifey hated it
> (due to all the problems along the way). with tears in
> her eyes she begged me "please take me home,
> nathan" so thats just what i did. there was no reasoning,
> there was no point in even trying as i could see it in her
> eyes that i had no choice. now im stuck here again in this
> same house in this same [expletive deleted]-hole
> neighborhood in this same [expletive deleted]-hole state
> with the only difference being that now im roughly $5,000
> poorer than i was a few weeks ago.
Cheers.
Earle
twaldron
tw
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2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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twaldron
Excursion gets 20 mpg! I thought getting 14+ in my Titan was great.
Earle Horton
price of fuel over there. "Look at me! I have more money than the
Onassises!" I wonder how they got it? You have a decent fleet, but you
need to get some older stuff, and an econo-car or two. Like this
http://www.puresuzuki.com/
Earle
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Earle
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Japanese nameplate. :-)
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Mike Romain
>
>
> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
>
> > The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> > and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> > down the grades.
Sure sound to me like someone that had no clue how to drive an
automatic.
All the automatics I have ever owned had this neat little feature called
a shift lever. When I used to use it, I would actually be able to slow
my vehicle down, especially handy on long mountain passes in the
Rockies. Even better for real slow if you own a Jeep that has a low
range. You can even get a 1st gear limiter for those.
But if you are so spooked you can't handle the thought of down shifting
an auto, well maybe you shouldn't be off road to start or tackle any of
them mountain passes. At least read up on the Darwin Awards so you know
what you are getting yourself into.... ;-)
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
XS11E
> If I have to sell the TJ, I will insist on a manual trans in the
> JK.
>
> OK, not insist....more like beg.
Why not discuss it with her and then do exactly what she wants?
Believe me, you'll be much happier in the long run!
"Watch out for a man who says he's boss in his own home because he'll
lie about other things, too!" ;-)
Nathan W. Collier
> More Classic Nathan Collier -->> http://tinyurl.com/eersv
heh.....youre obscession with me sure is cute earle. :-)
> And I believe that this one addresses the "other" question.
dont believe it does earle.....considering where im sitting right now as i
type this. try again. :-)
Nathan W. Collier
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
>>
>> > The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
>> > and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
>> > down the grades.
>
> Sure sound to me like someone that had no clue how to drive an
> automatic.
lol! oh yes, once again mike knows more about what happens from behind his
computer screen. you and earle are quite the pair! :-)
Mike Romain
>
> "Mike Romain" <rom...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission question.
> >>
> >> > The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> >> > and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> >> > down the grades.
> >
> > Sure sound to me like someone that had no clue how to drive an
> > automatic.
>
> lol! oh yes, once again mike knows more about what happens from behind his
> computer screen. you and earle are quite the pair! :-)
>
You are too much man....
If you are smokin' out the freakin' brakes, you are in the wrong gear!
That works for 'both' an automatic and a standard.
If you hit the hill at 90 and now can't downshift without exploding
something, you are a freakin' idiot.
Nathan W. Collier
> If you are smokin' out the freakin' brakes, you are in the wrong gear!
>
> That works for 'both' an automatic and a standard.
>
> If you hit the hill at 90 and now can't downshift without exploding
> something, you are a freakin' idiot.
you are one ignorant fuck mike....sitting behind your computer trying to
give advice on yet another topic where you are painfully clueless. when
youre already in 1st. gear and the vehicle is overpowering both the tranny
and the brakes there isnt much more you can do but clinch your asshole real
tight and hang on until you reach the bottom of the hill.
Matt Macchiarolo
Montana because I say so...."
Did you ever actually tell your wife you bought the Vette, or does she still
think you were only thinking about buying it? Is it still in your brother's
barn?
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Matt Macchiarolo
Montana because I say so...."
Did you ever actually tell your wife you bought the Vette, or does she still
think you were only thinking about buying it? Is ts still in your brother's
barn?
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Nathan W. Collier
> IIRC Nathan, it wasn't a situation where you told the wife, "We're moving
> to
> Montana because I say so...."
whats the point?
> Did you ever actually tell your wife you bought the Vette, or does she
> still
> think you were only thinking about buying it? Is it still in your
> brother's
> barn?
nah, brought it home, had fun with it, then sold it for a lot more than i
paid for it. whats your point? you arent really trying to compare hiding a
purchase from the wifey for a little while with crying about how the wifey
is making you sell your jeep, are you?
Mike Romain
>
> "Mike Romain" <rom...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > If you are smokin' out the freakin' brakes, you are in the wrong gear!
> >
> > That works for 'both' an automatic and a standard.
> >
> > If you hit the hill at 90 and now can't downshift without exploding
> > something, you are a freakin' idiot.
>
> you are one ignorant fuck mike....sitting behind your computer trying to
> give advice on yet another topic where you are painfully clueless. when
> youre already in 1st. gear and the vehicle is overpowering both the tranny
> and the brakes there isnt much more you can do but clinch your asshole real
> tight and hang on until you reach the bottom of the hill.
>
I just went and read the post Nathan. Calling you an idiot is doing
real idiots a dis-service.
Only one thing I can say. Have you read the Darwin Awards page?
Mike.
Matt Macchiarolo
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <ma...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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>> IIRC Nathan, it wasn't a situation where you told the wife, "We're moving
>> to
>> Montana because I say so...."
>
> whats the point?
That you sometimes do you wife's bidding, no matter what.
>
>
>> Did you ever actually tell your wife you bought the Vette, or does she
>> still
>> think you were only thinking about buying it? Is it still in your
>> brother's
>> barn?
>
> nah, brought it home, had fun with it, then sold it for a lot more than i
> paid for it. whats your point? you arent really trying to compare hiding
> a purchase from the wifey for a little while with crying about how the
> wifey is making you sell your jeep, are you?
>
I have a lot more respect for my wife then, I wouldn't buy a car and then
lie to her about it.
I'm not selling my TJ, you missed the inflection of the post.
Nathan W. Collier
lol.....more loose and empty bullshit from mike. you couldnt respond to my
already being in 1st. gear because that shows you to be the FOOL, so instead
you just throw loose insults in a rather pitiful attempt at proving
something. for someone who loves to post the group charter and give others
shit for off topic postings you sure are a HYPOCRITE.
Nathan W. Collier
> That you sometimes do you wife's bidding, no matter what.
certainly, as would anyone. its isnt the same thing as letting someone
dictate what youre "allowed" to own.
> I have a lot more respect for my wife then, I wouldn't buy a car and then
> lie to her about it.
lol.....i know.....from the sounds of it you would wait until you got her
permission. :-)
> I'm not selling my TJ, you missed the inflection of the post.
and you missed the spirit of mine.
Matt Macchiarolo
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>
> lol.....i know.....from the sounds of it you would wait until you got her
> permission. :-)
>
The trick is to let them think you are getting their permission.
Nathan W. Collier
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since youve gone to such great lengths of digging in the archives in a
pitiful attempt at discrediting me, i thought it might be fun to plug "earle
horton" into a search engine.
1- you had a one hit wonder year where you made $2 million.
certainly impressive
2- you take your new found money and you move into an uppity deed restricted
neighborhood. despite your one hit wonder year, you and everyone around you
knows that you dont belong there......youre sorta like the colorado
hillbilly. :-)
instead of honoring your legal obligation to keep your yard clean you choose
to be a "rebel" and show all of your neighbors that your individual rights
mean more than both their rights and the civil contract you signed when you
bought your house. your neighbors all join together and file a lawsuit
against you for ruining their property values by being a nasty
fucker.......this of course is no surprise considering you allow cats on the
same table you eat from.
2- instead of investing your money wisely, over the next few years you
squandered it in legal fees fighting your entire neighborhood.
3- out of money, you begin to scramble for a way to preserve the quality of
life that you got such a short taste of. to your surprise, microsoft and
any other large company wont touch you because through your "i can keep my
yard anyway i want to no matter what it does to my neighborhood" being
published in newspapers you had shown the world that you are an eccentric
FOOL. you sell your "i got money!" house and move to a less expensive
neighborhood where you hope to regroup and get back on your feet.
4- you scramble for a way to earn a good living. you proudly announce to
the world that youve gone to nursing school, along with your wife. bottom
line you just cant cut it in nursing school (congratulations to your wifey
however, who could!) so you drop out. now youre learning to be a
writer......lol......ill keep looking for your published work. ;-)
as i read multiple newsgroups and forums one thing became clear.....given
time to expose your true colors you become an outcast wherever you go.
http://www.medscitalk.com/ftopic12674.html
"Aren't you the idiot millionaire nurse wannabe who used to post here two or
three years ago? The nut case who wouldn't cut his grass
just to piss off your neighbors? If you are, you haven't changed. You're
still the village idiot."
http://tinyurl.com/pexvc
"I knew there was a reason I killfiled your crap. It hasn't improved."
earle himself from http://tinyurl.com/rqemp
"One of the advantages of being rich is that when you finally admit to
yourself that you are eating sh*t, you can afford to spit out what is in
your mouth and step back from the table, no matter how much you have paid
for it. I quit the nursing program"
heh.....just couldnt cut it huh earle?
.....course, truth be known you arent "rich" anymore.
http://tinyurl.com/ozp5a
"Earle is a Microsoft millionaire who decided to go slumming among us peons.
He lectured us incessantly from the lofty heights of nursing school (in
Colorado, BTW), and now he's projecting his own failure onto us. Those of
us who have succeeded in nursing must therefore be devalued."
http://tinyurl.com/elstm
"I killfiled him long ago when he blamed the war on the servicemen."
"I've left Merde because he posts good stuff on unions. His xenophobia
makes me want to spew"
http://med4um.com/about3363-asc.html
funny thing, nurses on multiple forums sure are glad that you dropped out of
nursing school. :-)
so sorry to hear how your entire nursing school as well as the entire
administration of the ambulatory service were all in some grand conspiracy
against little ole' you. ya know earle, your entire neighborhood.....the
entire staff at your nursing school.....the entire administration at the
ambulatory service where you volunteered.......all conspiring against YOU.
hmmm....methinks the real problem MIGHT just be with YOU. :-)
.......and i saved the best for last. im waiting on your best shot before i
deliver mine. sheesh....if youre going to live in a glass house earle, dont
throw stones. :-)
Earle Horton
> "Mike Romain" <rom...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44537A9C...@sympatico.ca...
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> I believe that this clip addresses the automatic transmission
> >> question.
> >>
> >> > The automatic transmission offered no engine braking,
> >> > and the truck constantly tried to run away coming
> >> > down the grades.
> >
> > Sure sound to me like someone that had no clue how to drive
> > an automatic.
>
> lol! oh yes, once again mike knows more about what happens
> from behind his computer screen. you and earle are quite the pair! :-)
>
Grand Junction had no trouble with the down grades on I-70. But maybe the
mountains are steeper in Montana, than in Colorado. ;^)
Earle
Nathan W. Collier
> We're a tag team! But seriously, the Ryder we rented from Fort Collins to
> Grand Junction had no trouble with the down grades on I-70. But maybe the
> mountains are steeper in Montana, than in Colorado. ;^)
...or maybe the truck you rented wasnt a total piece of shit.
Earle Horton
http://www.nbc.com/My_Name_Is_Earl/
Earle
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Coasty
snicker, snicker
Coasty
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Mike Romain
When the automatic was mentioned, I thought it was talking about Jeeps,
Not your total incompetence or your bid to win a Darwin Award.
Should have known better, not much refers to Jeeps in any thread
involving you.
You 'do' deserve an honorable mention in the Darwin Awards page Nathan.
Seriously. You almost took out yourself and at the same time your
offspring so the genetic line would have stopped.
You rent a truck, you overload it with everything you own, you find out
it has a bad engine and 'no' brakes and yet you and your kid go merrily
on your way across the country going way too fast and 'clinching your
asshole' down the grades. (legally you had no brakes if you can't stop
the truck in 1st gear, that also leads to going too fast for the
equipment too.)
There are no words to describe you. A sane person would have turned
back to the nearest town with a rental outlet and camped in their
parking lot until a replacement truck showed up.
I now know why I ignored your posts and like to call your BS. You are a
waste of bandwidth Nathan.
Nathan W. Collier
> When the automatic was mentioned, I thought it was talking about Jeeps
so on top of everything else you jump the gun before you even know what
youre talking about.
......no wait a minute, theres nothing new there. sorta like snapping at
someone when your antiquated crap wont pull up a standard html web page like
its their fault.
> Should have known better, not much refers to Jeeps in any thread
> involving you.
you feel this way, yet you continute to participate in these conversations.
hmmm, whats that say of you? :-)
> You almost took out yourself and at the same time your
> offspring so the genetic line would have stopped.
lol......no, i didnt. dangerous? sure. imminent danger as you suggest?
nope. once again you think you know more about an incident than those who
were there when all you have to go on is a couple paragraphs. as ive said,
you are a FOOL mike.
> You rent a truck, you overload it with everything you own,
and once again you jump to a conclusion. do tell me how you know the truck
was overloaded beyond its rated capacity. also tlel me how i got through
the mandatory weigh stations in north dakota with the GVWR clearly painted
in huge letters on the hood of the truck to prevent that exact thing.
> you find out
> it has a bad engine
once we were already in the rural mountains.
> you and your kid go merrily
> on your way across the country
nope. me and the dog were in the truck. the kids were safely buckled in
the cherokee following. :-)
> going way too fast
lol......youre downright a liar now. you have no way of knowing our speed.
tell me mike, how fast will those trucks run? you seem to know everything.
> There are no words to describe you.
heh......talk about irony! im sorry that whatever disease you have turned
you into a bitter old fucker, but that doesnt excuse your lies, your
hypocrisy, or your self-proclaimed omnipotence.
> A sane person would have turned
> back to the nearest town with a rental outlet and camped in their
> parking lot until a replacement truck showed up.
lol......ok mr omnipotent man. you tell me how you turn a truck and trailer
around while climbing the continental divide on I90. put up or shut up.
> I now know why I ignored your posts and like to call your BS. You are a
> waste of bandwidth Nathan.
lol liar. you keep crying how my posts are off topic and you arent playing
anymore, and then you jump right back in head first. as ive said, you are a
hypocrite and a fool.
Earle Horton
http://www.silvertoncolorado.com/
Whenever I need to take time off from my busy schedule of fighting
conspiracies and persecuting "regular folks", I walk out the door, fire up
my Jeep, and in five or ten minutes I am on an old mining road or Jeep
trail.
People can judge the merits of Nathan's insane ramble for themselves. I
suspect that many already have. I think that Mike has been too kind to him.
The Ambulance Association issue deserves comment. (Anyone else know what
"ambulatory" means? Heh, heh.) The Colorado State Nursing Board recently
sent us a letter, thanking us for reporting one of their licensees for
unprofessional conduct. Here are links to copies of the thank you note and
the disciplinary action.
http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
This nurse had been using seriously injured patients for practice dummies,
without their consent, or that of any medical doctor. Or maybe he's just a
pervert. The Ambulance Association Board of Directors defended his actions,
solely because he was "one of their own". They continue to do so, despite
the Nursing Board Letter of Admonition, which has the force of state law.
Compared to other states, especially Nursing Compact states, Colorado is
relatively lenient towards nursing misconduct. For example, there is a
nurse in the next county, with multiple felony convictions on her record.
This is a small community, with an insular system of values. They deeply
resent it, that I reported their golden boy to the Nursing Board. They
wanted to handle the problem "in house". Their idea of handling things in
house, is to reward the person who does wrong, punish all the witnesses,
and have no one ever talk about what happened, outside of "executive
session".
Now the Medical Director is under investigation, by the Colorado Board of
Medical Examiners. We may lose our ambulance service because of it. If you
come to Silverton, and need emergency medical services, the medics may treat
you with more respect now, out of fear. If they don't, then the agency has
a documented record of abusing ambulance patients, and I hope that you sue
the pants off of them. If you come, you may want to leave a copy of this
email with your heirs.
Nate is a fine one to talk about conspiracy theory paranoia.
> From: Nathan W. Collier
> Date: Sat, Sep 7 2002 8:39 pm
> ...
> promoting 4 and 6 cylinder hondas over evil v8
> gt mustangs
> ...
> it seems that EVERY newsgroup i read has had a
> recent surge of liberals that want to control every
> facet of our lives. i wonder if you have also noticed
> this recently in the newsgroups that you read?
> thanks,
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
Sure Nate, I notice liberals conspiring against me, everywhere I look. Just
like you do. I know that they are plotting to do something evil to my V8
Suburban. Maybe they're behind rising fuel prices?
Earle
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> People can judge the merits of Nathan's insane ramble for themselves.
youre right earle....it isnt you buddy. your entire neighborhood who sued
you, your entire nursing school staff, and everyone at your volunteer
ambulance service were ALL the "bad guys". everywhere you go it seems,
everyone you meet conspires against you. its only coincidence that the only
common denominator is YOU. the problem couldnt possibly lie within you now,
could it? no way. all those mean nurses on the message boards and usenet
who draw the same conclusions of you that i do, i guess theyre all the "bad
guys" too. it must be hell to have the whole world conspire against you
like that. :-)
> The Ambulance Association issue deserves comment. (Anyone else know what
> "ambulatory" means? Heh, heh.) The Colorado State Nursing Board recently
> sent us a letter, thanking us for reporting one of their licensees for
> unprofessional conduct. Here are links to copies of the thank you note
> and
> the disciplinary action.
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
from YOUR link:
"The Board determined that its investigation discloses an instance of
misconduct that DOES NOT WARRANT FORMAL ACTION"
lol.....looks like you save the world earle! he helped patients who refused
service....lol.....the way you went on and on about it sounded like you
actually accomplished something. i guess the conpiracy hunter bagged a big
one on this! lol.
> This is a small community, with an insular system of values. They deeply
> resent it, that I reported their golden boy to the Nursing Board. They
> wanted to handle the problem "in house". Their idea of handling things in
> house, is to reward the person who does wrong, punish all the witnesses,
> and have no one ever talk about what happened, outside of "executive
> session".
lol.....more conspiracy against you. :-)
......if whatever happened is so bad, why is it that you cant find any
support on this issue from nurses in the nursing forums?
BOTTOM LINE --> you flunked out of nursing school so you look for fault in
other nurses who DID actually succeed. the links i provided in my last post
have nurses making that same statement. you volunteer to ride an ambulance
and use this as an opportunity to find fault in those nurses. you make a
big stink over nothing, and now you cant even volunteer anymore because
everyone knows exactly what youre all about now.. :-)
Matt Macchiarolo
a dark maroon, but I only got a passing glance since it was going in the
opposite direction. First thing I noticed is it is definitely recognizable
as a Wrangler. Too bad I didn't have a camera.
Nathan W. Collier
> I saw a KJ Unlimited
kj unlimited? a typo or am i that uninformed?
Earle Horton
Cheers.
Earle
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> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSP...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> > People can judge the merits of Nathan's insane ramble for
> > themselves.
>
> youre right earle----snippy----
Matt Macchiarolo
Jeeps without a "j" as the second letter of the factory designator.
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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Nathan W. Collier
> Oops again, should've read "JK."
cool. id like to see one before all of the '06s are gone. as you may
remember the wifey got t-boned
http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1044 and wants a new jeep.
she likes the unlimited rubicon, but wants to see the '07 before making up
her mind.
Earle Horton
Earle
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> "Matt Macchiarolo" <ma...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> > Oops again, should've read "JK."
>
> cool. id like to see one before all of the '06s are gone. as you may
> remember the wifey got t-boned
> http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1044 and wants
> a new jeep. she likes the unlimited rubicon, but wants to see the '07
> before making up her mind.
>
irrespective of civil liability, or "fault" for an accident. Despite what
the state patrol told you, they do make the initial decision to issue a
ticket or not. No ticket, just means the cop didn't think it was a case,
that could be made to stick in court. Given his presumed years of
experience and training, he is probably right. And unlike the people who
read this news group, he doesn't know how special you are. ;^)
If you have "tort-based" insurance, like we have in Colorado, then your
insurance companies will decide who is at fault, and who will pay, and there
is little you can do about it. If they can't agree who is going to pay, it
may go to a civil court judge, but this is rare. The insurance companies
have to get along with each other, after all.
Nice truck, but I expected bigger tires and more chrome stuff.
Earle
Matt Macchiarolo
bugs out of the new model. As a recent magazine article said, the only
things carried over from the TJ are the footman loops on the hood.
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> I'd wait until the 08 MY to give them time to work the bugs out of the new
> model.
we're going to test drive an '06 rubicon unlimited. hopefully she will
decide that she wants an '06 and it wont be an issue. the 4 doors on the JK
however, are promising. i wish they had put the dakar into production
instead.
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
http://www.4x4review.com/feature/50-years-Jeep/Concept-1997-Jeep-Dakar-BIG.jpg
Nathan W. Collier
> That's what Daimler needs another hummer wannabee:
> http://www.4x4review.com/feature/50-years-Jeep/Concept-1997-Jeep-Dakar-BIG.jpg
i wouldnt see a rubicon dakar as a wannabe ANYTHING.
Matt Macchiarolo
replacement for the Cherokee...seating for five, solid axles. I can't
remember, does the 2-door have seating for five as well?
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mabar
redesigned vehicle. There are sure to be lots of bugs in the first year or
two.
Nathan, you probably still have time to factory order an '06 Rubi, just the
way you want it. I'm not sure, but the deadline for ordering '06's may be
just a few weeks from now, if that long. As often as you change vehicles, if
the wifey likes the redesigned Rubi better, you can always trade the '06 in
a couple of years for an '08 or '09. By '09 most all the bugs should be
worked out.
Tom
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Tom
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Earle
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lies Nathan would make up, now that he knows he is whipped, to try to regain
a shred of credibility. Please, since this is an "OT" thread, do not read
any more, without regulation Usenet flame protective gear in place.
----------------
Nathan made a number of mis-statements and outright lies in his last post
about me. He claims to know, for example, what is going on in Silverton,
CO, where he has never been, what goes on in nursing school, and to have
knowledge of something that happened in Fort Collins, CO, six years ago. By
his own argument "He wasn't there" so he doesn't have a clue, as to the real
events. Instead, he resorts to making stuff up, as he has done in
innumerable Usenet groups, being run off of some of them as a result.
Wrt the "ambulatory" service, Nathan states that I "cant even volunteer
anymore because everyone knows exactly what [I'm] all about now". The
"ambulatory" service is desperate for volunteers, and they don't care who.
When I got back from Spain two months ago, the Director of the "ambulatory"
service approached me, and asked me to renew my EMT certificate, so that I
could go on "ambulatory" runs for them. I told her that I couldn't, because
the Board of Directors, her employers, were crooked, and that I would not
work for dishonest people. She admitted that this was true. Nathan's
statement, that I can't volunteer anymore, is something plucked out of thin
air, like liberals trying to take away his Mustang.
I did not "flunk out" of nursing school. I quit after three semesters,
because I decided that it wasn't for me. Other people may thrive on the
diet of crap that they serve in nursing school, but it doesn't agree with
me. As a "self-proclaimed intellectual", I just couldn't take it. Nurses
in sci.med.nursing spread the rumor, that I had flunked out. Like Nathan,
they can't imagine, that everyone else, doesn't necessarily want to be like
them. They are just as vicious, as Mustang owners, Harley riders, and
Alaska residents, all of whom have found it necessary to drum Nathan out of
their news groups.
Nathan states that the "ambulatory" nurse, from the Letter of Admonition
that I posted on my web site, "helped patients who refused service". Sure
Nathan. That is why the Board of Nursing called him "reckless" and stated
that his behavior "could lead to serious adverse patient outcomes".
"Serious adverse patient outcomes" is a euphemism for "long term disability
or death". Now the nurse has a permanent, public black mark on his
professional record. Just like the threads in Google Groups with Nathan's
name all over them. Unlike Nathan, the nurse in question had the sense to
stop calling me "crazy" when he finally saw the wind blowing the other way.
When the dirt got up around his eyebrows, he realized the hole he was
digging himself into. Nathan never realizes, until it is too late.
Nathan wants to know, why I don't seek support, from the nursing forums, in
my "campaign" to rid the world of Silverton San Juan County "Ambulatory"
Association. The reason is that nurses are not normally trained or
qualified to serve on "ambulatories", and they don't, as a rule, know
anything about it. The "ambulatory" service's use of nurses, without
properly training or supervising them, is one of the causes of its present
difficulties. The nurses that they have now all have gotten EMT
certificates, after I pointed out the need for them.
Nathan states that the "entire neighborhood", where I used to live in Fort
Collins, sued me, and earlier that it was an "uppity deed restricted
neighborhood". Does this look like an "uppity deed restricted
neighborhood"?
http://earlehorton.tripod.com/garden.html
No, if course not. It is a typical OSB working class shanty town, of the
type that Nathan and my namesake on NBC live in. If the neighborhood had
sued me, there would be court papers in the Larimer County, CO district
court archives, describing the lawsuit in detail. They are not there,
because it just didn't happen. If Nathan figured out, from my web site,
that they sued me, then it must be, that he does not read very well. This
would explain the trouble that he has gotten into, on
rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang, alt.troll, alt.autos.camaro.firebird,
arschlecker.de, rec.motorcycles.harley, pinche.mx, alt.culture.alaska,
alt.autos.dodge.trucks, and putamadre.es, to name a few of his past flaming
grounds. Although he has never been to Alaska, he tried to pass himself
off, as an expert on what goes on there. This is, of course, what he is
trying to do here.
Earle
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Unlimited", or whatever. I lost track, when Jeep stopped using leaf springs
on all four corners. My neighbor has a Liberty. Is it anything like that?
Earle
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billy ray
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exclusive" area, where there are no weed laws, where the majority of the
houses are made of real wood, and where welfare recipients rub elbows with
multi-millionaires. I hear now that the town of Fort Collins, like many
other Front Range cities, has become friendlier to natural gardeners,
because of the shortage of water that exists. Water is like petroleum
there. It seems that I was only ahead of my time. And Nathan is venturing
an opinion, on something he knows nothing about.
These cities have gotten themselves into a bind now, with the subdivisions
that have restrictive covenants. The cities' interest in saving water
conflicts with the subdivisions' regulations to have conventional green
lawns. The irony is that the cities made them adopt green lawn regulations
in the first place. Most of the subdivisions have covenants, where they can
only change their regulations, with seventy-five percent vote of homeowners.
The kind of people that live in Colorado, you can't even get seventy-five
percent to show up for a free barbecue. And after they have lived in the
subdivision for a year or so, they are all pissed at somebody else. Kind of
like Usenet, except that you can't escape.
Earle
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hippie devil.
Earle Horton
Earle
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I'm saving it this to use in blackmail.
I sure you know after being nearly cripple with what they did to
your boots, that the lowest picture in your "garden" are fox tales that
will craw up a dogs nose and kill it. Put them under a glass and they
will walk around try to get out.
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com
>
> Earle
Mike Romain
flowers. Some neighbor complained and the inspector shut up fast when
he couldn't find one dandelion or 'noxious' plant while I pointed out
the neighbor's fields of dandelions... LOL!
Mike
Spdloader
I'll waste no more breath or bandwidth on you.
Spdloader
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> Although that same mag I read said the JKL could be considered the true
> replacement for the Cherokee...seating for five, solid axles. I can't
> remember, does the 2-door have seating for five as well?
the 2 door also has seating for 5, which overall makes it a smarter choice
for her. my hesitance to wait on the '07 has nothing to do with
practicality as the '07 would be a better fit overall. the '06 though, with
its size and drivetrain, is more "jeepy".
Nathan W. Collier
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> As often as you change vehicles, if
> the wifey likes the redesigned Rubi better, you can always trade the '06
> in
> a couple of years for an '08 or '09. By '09 most all the bugs should be
> worked out.
thats a good point i hadnt thought of. i really hate to see the tj come to
an end, but i guess it was inevitable.
Nathan W. Collier
> Initially, I wasn't going to do this, but I wanted to see what additional
> lies Nathan would make up, now that he knows he is whipped, to try to
> regain
> a shred of credibility.
lol....thats just pathetic earle. you were whipped by your neighbors, you
were whipped by nursing school, you were whipped by your ambulance
association (a volunteer one at that!), and worst of all earle you were
whipped by YOURSELF.
> Nathan made a number of mis-statements and outright lies
WRONG. my statements were based upon YOUR statements across many forums and
usenet groups.
> By
> his own argument "He wasn't there" so he doesn't have a clue, as to the
> real
> events. Instead, he resorts to making stuff up
what more do you want earle? ive aleady conceeded that you are completely
innocent, and that the rest of the world is conspiring against you.
everywhere you go, everyone you meet conspires to destroy you. its not you,
its EVERYBODY else. :-)
> being run off of some of them as a result.
lol NAME ONE! pfft......like everyone else ive left groups when i lost
interest in whatever the group represented. for example, i started to buy a
harley a few years ago so i played in the harley group for awhile. when i
decided that a harley would not be in my best interest (follow the
group.....seems like somebody is killed in there every month!) i decided not
to buy one so i stopped participating in the group. i certainly wasnt "run
out" as you (the "village idiot" as deemed by many in the nursing forums!)
suggest. stop lying earle.
> When I got back from Spain two months ago, the Director of the
> "ambulatory"
> service approached me, and asked me to renew my EMT certificate, so that I
> could go on "ambulatory" runs for them. I told her that I couldn't,
> because
> the Board of Directors, her employers, were crooked, and that I would not
> work for dishonest people.
lol......uh-huh. im sure. maybe they will promise not to conspire against
you? ;-)
> I did not "flunk out" of nursing school. I quit after three semesters,
> because I decided that it wasn't for me.
TRANSLATION --> "i couldnt cut it"
> Other people may thrive on the
> diet of crap that they serve in nursing school, but it doesn't agree with
> me.
oh yes earle, you know those nurses.......theyre all such bad people and you
are above them all. silly of me to think you would care to associate
yourself with such low-lifes (rolling eyes).
you FAILED earle.....own it.
> Mustang owners, Harley riders, and
> Alaska residents, all of whom have found it necessary to drum Nathan out
> of
> their news groups.
lol.....stop LYING earle. hey, KATE WAS THERE, as thats where i know her
from. sure i had arguments, but nobody ran me out of anywhere.....in fact i
ridded the mustang newgroup of a certain poster with "troll" in his username
who was there for no reason other than to talk about how the mustangs were
crap and that if you didnt ride a motorcycle you were somehow beneath those
who did.
> Nathan states that the "ambulatory" nurse, from the Letter of Admonition
> that I posted on my web site, "helped patients who refused service". Sure
> Nathan. That is why the Board of Nursing called him "reckless" and stated
> that his behavior "could lead to serious adverse patient outcomes".
lol....i quoted for YOUR letter earle, that specifically stated that no
formal action was warranted. bottom line, NO FORMAL ACTION WAS WARRANTED so
you can say whatever you want to if it were a big deal there would have been
a FORMAL ACTION.
> Nathan wants to know, why I don't seek support, from the nursing forums
lol.....NO I DONT! i merely pointed out that all the nurses are slamming
you for your stupidity in that issue and most anything else you talk about.
> Nathan states that the "entire neighborhood", where I used to live in Fort
> Collins, sued me, and earlier that it was an "uppity deed restricted
> neighborhood". Does this look like an "uppity deed restricted
> neighborhood"?
are you suggesting that it wasnt deed restricted?
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/garden.html
lol cut your fucking grass. the only thing those pictures lack is a 73
firebird on blocks in the front yard.
> If the neighborhood had
> sued me, there would be court papers in the Larimer County, CO district
> court archives
dude, those statements were based on statements YOU made in the past. ill
dig them up after work.
> Although he has never been to Alaska
lol.....please explain how you could POSSIBLY know this. while youre at it,
please tell me where i really was when i THOUGHT that i was at the
contracting office on ft. wainwright. sheesh....must have been a grand
conspiracy involving the army, the airlines, and an entire city of people.
:-)
give me something a little more......please.....to make it worth my trouble
to dig through boxes from several years ago for the receipt for my plane
ticket. :-)
billy ray
garden a bit?"
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> The kind of people that live in Colorado, you can't even get seventy-five
> percent to show up for a free barbecue.
you cant figure it out? they dont like you.
......course, we've already established that its not you, its EVERYBODY
else. :-)
Nathan W. Collier
> there would be court papers in the Larimer County, CO district
> court archives, describing the lawsuit in detail. They are not there,
> because it just didn't happen.
quoting EARLE HORTON himself from http://tinyurl.com/qzgjr
"a Colorado state court judge told me I could not grow wild flowers in my
front yard in Fort Collins, even though there was no law against it, just
because my neighbors did not approve."
quoting EARLE HORTON himself from http://tinyurl.com/mlxr4
"the city and a district court judge both said that I had to keep the yard
in a condition such that the neighbors approved of it."
quoting EARLE HORTON himself from http://tinyurl.com/n7kow
"The city had full time lawyers working on my case to take advantage of
every procedural slip up I made. When these lawyers weren't enough, they
hired a fancy "civil rights" lawyer (anti-civi-rights lawyer is more like
it) from Denver who wrote a Motion to Dismiss my complaint that was as
thick as the Denver phone book."
......now youre right earle i wasnt there......but based upon YOUR
statements it sure sounds like there would be some court records somewhere.
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
ago.
billy ray
passenger, better access for those passengers, and considerable more cargo
area that might easily be stretched to a short pickup bed.
I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a shuffling of Jeep models as they
now will have 4 four door models with similar wheelbases (4 dr Wrangler,
Liberty, Grand Cherokee, & Commander)
I an easily see the Grand Cherokee falling to the wayside... but then with
the downsized (cute) Compass and Patriot models perhaps the Libby is
expendable.
What never ceases to amaze me is DC says 2WD models are 25% of Jeep sales!
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> What never ceases to amaze me is DC says 2WD models are 25% of Jeep sales!
this statement 10 years ago would amaze me. today, sadly im surprised that
its not even more than 25%.
Earle Horton
Those are volunteer short grain wheat, that sprouted from the straw I used
for mulch. ;^)
Now foxtail barley, a native species, can hurt an animal's mouth, if he
tries to eat it, but that stuff is all over the Rocky Mountain states.
Earle
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America, the Beautiful. ;^)
Earle
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money back to Wisconsin, but a great grandson still writes to the town paper
now and then. Lots of my neighbors grow this stuff here, because the town
doesn't really have water rights or enough physical storage capacity to
water lawns, and because it is real hard to make grass grow.
Funny, tourists love wild flowers--in someone else's town.
Earle
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twice about taking my Wrangler now. The only "upgrade" was a couple of bags
of sand and an engine block in the bed. My "winch" was a two and a half ton
come along. I figure if you put a sand bag in the back of any of the 2wd
Jeep models, it would still be pretty good in snow where I live. Add a
limited slip, and it might be better than lots of fwd cars.
Earle
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how you change things, to make it look like your argument is better than it
actually is. I have seen you do it in dozens of news groups, recorded for
posterity in Google Groups. Then someone figures out what you are doing,
and "like everyone else ive left groups when i lost interest in whatever the
group represented". Sure, you pretend to lose interest, after your
credibility is shot and no one wants to listen to you anymore.
I described a court case, or rather a number of them, between the City of
Fort Collins and me. There were like four of them, but my "entire
neighborhood" did not sue me, or anybody. They didn't have the nerve. In
fact, they tried to testify "confidentially" for the city, a concept that is
as un-American as liberals taking your Mustang. If you don't pay attention
to the details, which you never do, you don't get the story straight. That
is why the name Nathan Collier, in a dozen news groups, is like a fart at a
tea party, a loud one.
I whipped the Ambulatory Association's butt. Call them and find out for
yourself. 970-387-5887 Ask them if James Michael Bertch, RN, is still on
the active roster. They won't say "yes" or "no", even though it is a public
agency, with a statutory duty to make the membership list public. The
person on the other end might not even be able to talk at all, once you
mention "Mike's" name. If they say "Yes, Mike is on the roster", they are
afraid I will find out. If they say "No, Mike is not on the roster", they
are afraid Mike will find out.
Almost two years later, I still have a county sheriff and a county
commissioner crying about "hurt feelings", because I asked them to do their
jobs. At the same time, their EMS Director is stopping me on the street,
asking me to go back on duty. One thing I can't stand, is hypocrites. The
only reason I still like you, Nathan, is that I honestly believe, that you
don't know what you are doing. Bliss, what is that like?
Nursing discipline varies from state to state. New Mexico, our neighbor to
the south, revokes licenses for what Mike did. Colorado hands out warnings,
but they are almost as bad. When Mike applies for a job, he has to tell
them all about the letter, and why it is on his record. "I was a bad nurse,
but I am sorry now." He will choke before he says that.
Peace.
Earle
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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Nathan W. Collier
> Nathan, what you said was, "your entire neighborhood who sued you".
heh.....ok earle.....FINE. i was working off memory of statements you made
years ago. the bottom line is the same. your neighbors started a legal
action against you, and totally shut you down. if you want to get hung up
in the fine details go ahead, it doesnt change the bottom line.
> Sure, you pretend to lose interest, after your
> credibility is shot and no one wants to listen to you anymore.
BULLshit earle. look at the dates as well as my last posts in those
particular newsgroups. i left the mustang newsgroup only after i sold my
mustang. ASK KATE. i left the alaska newsgroup only after we made the
decision to move to montana instead. it was fun poking the liberals there
with a stick, but if i had no interest in the group and continued to torment
i would become a legitimate troll, which i am not. i left the harley
newsgroup only after deciding against buying a harley.....i bought a yamaha
rhino instead and started a website around it. youre obviously obsessed
with trying to dig up some dirt on me, but you should at least try to
organize everything chronologically before speaking in ignorance.....else
youre doing exactly what you accuse me of doing.
> If you don't pay attention
> to the details, which you never do, you don't get the story straight.
talk about irony! this is exactly what im talking about earle. youre doing
exactly what you accuse me of doing.
> That
> is why the name Nathan Collier, in a dozen news groups, is like a fart at
> a
> tea party, a loud one.
lol.....and yet i have so captured the attention of the uber-intellectual
millionaire....just what does that say of you? :-)
i find it extremely ironic that you would make such a statement of me, after
reading the comments the nurses made/make about you in the nurse
forums/newsgroups. if youre going to bitch about my backyard earle, you
better clean yours first (......er, or should i say MOW it? ;-).
dig all you like earle......dig desperately like a rat trying to escape a
sinking ship. you will find nothing that everyone here doesnt already know
or hasnt already made up their minds about. am i controversial? yes, on
occassion. the difference is that i walk away from the computer to bigger
and better things until i sit down again. you on the other hand, search for
ways to hurt others and when you fail you visualize grand conspiracies
against you.
> I whipped the Ambulatory Association's butt.
heh......ok earle....what with your "does NOT require formal action"
response letter? :-)
> Call them and find out for
> yourself. 970-387-5887 Ask them if James Michael Bertch, RN, is still on
> the active roster. They won't say "yes" or "no", even though it is a
> public
> agency, with a statutory duty to make the membership list public. The
> person on the other end might not even be able to talk at all, once you
> mention "Mike's" name. If they say "Yes, Mike is on the roster", they are
> afraid I will find out. If they say "No, Mike is not on the roster", they
> are afraid Mike will find out.
lol that entire paragraph is silly! it conveniently leaves you a way out no
matter what the answer is! i really dont care one way or another earle.
bottom line is that you are what we like to call a "busy-body". always
looking for fault in others in order to elevate yourself.
> Nursing discipline varies from state to state.
which explains NOTHING. ive read the comments from the other nurses earle.
i realize that in your self-imposed omnipotence you feel everyone should
place your opinion over everyone elses, but when i look at the bigger
picture i simply see a moral busy-body with an over-inflated sense of
self-worth. the entire world is NOT out to get you earle. those forced to
live around you might be, however. :-)
Lon
Earle Horton proclaimed:
Earle Horton
a nurse pissed off? ;^)
Peace?
Earle
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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Nathan W. Collier
> I don't suppose you ever got
> a nurse pissed off? ;^)
heh......literally almost every day. like you, im married to one.
> Peace?
absolutely. ive got nothing against you personally earle. i just believe
that the best defense is a good offense. :-)
.....now you let me know if you decide to take offers on that fj40.
Lon
of a Mirsky in style.
Spdloader proclaimed:
Earle Horton
Earle
"Lon" <lon.s...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Earle Horton
I got $4,500 cash from a neighbor this morning. It was what we paid for it.
I made you something. Click on the "Letter to Registered Voters, Town of
Silverton" link. Think about what it would be like, to be one of the people
named in the letter, and know that everyone else in town was reading it too.
http://earlehorton.tripod.com/Newstuff/Public/list.html
Earle
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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Grumman-581
<Kill.t...@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote:
> I never said it was an eyesore... I said "Soooooo why don't you trim your
> garden a bit?"
<snip>
One might also ask why didn't you trim the other 260+ quoted lines in
your post?
Or why you top-post?
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
a '73 brand spanking new, at least in Southern California. I paid
nineteen for a '72 4X4 F100 new.
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> I got $4,500 cash from a neighbor this morning. It was what we paid for it.
><snip>
> Earle
Earle Horton
upgrade, rear seat, console, carpet and cassette player. I got an extra
soft top at the time too. Then I found out about the difference, between YJ
half doors and YJ full doors. It took me a couple years, to straighten that
mess out.
It looks as if a new one, with a soft top only, lists for about $18,500.
Mine is only now getting broken in with 80,000 miles on it.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" <billh...@cox.net> wrote in message
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L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
because of SMOG as wages were in a down hill slide while Carter was in.
Nathan W. Collier
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/Newstuff/Public/list.html
im curious about one thing. the banter we've done on here in the end means
nothing. we blow off some steam, and maybe have a little fun in the
process. those public letters though, arent you worried about subjecting
yourself to slander suits?
btw, just for shits & giggles, see http://tinyurl.com/jclvn
Earle Horton
should cost virtually nothing to make, and parts like suspensions,
transmissions, and engines get flimsier looking every year. The new
Wrangler base model has a Neon engine in it, while mine has a cast iron,
push rod engine, that people tell me should get another hundred thousand
with minimal repairs and maintenance. The Neon engine has a good reputation
too, but I don't like the looks of it.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" <billh...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Earle Horton
answer, may allege both the truth of the matter charged as defamatory and
any mitigating circumstances..."
95% of the statements made by me are demonstrable as fact. The rest are
legitimate opinion, and protected by my First Amendment rights. A libel
suit would give me the opportunity to present all of the facts in a public
forum in my community. This is the last thing, that the spineless Board of
Directors, County Commission or Town Council wants. The law recognizes a
difference, too, between private citizens and public figures. Everyone
involved in this episode, except the patients of course, is a public figure,
by virtue of working, volunteering, or being a supervisor for the Ambulance
Association, which is, according to Colorado law, a "Government Financed
Entity". They have violated several laws, by conducting Ambulance
Association business in secret.
In a free society, public figures are fair game, for all sorts of comment
related to their job performance. When I slammed the Sheriff, for sitting
on her fat ass while some serious shit was going down, I was merely doing my
duty as a citizen. The main objection that people in my community have, to
what I am doing, is that it "hurts people's feelings". A rapist should not
be able to claim that his feelings have been hurt. Besides, people don't
bleed from hurt feelings.
This doesn't mean that you won't get sued for doing your civil duty, but you
should be able to dismiss it pretty easily. Tracy Bertch, for example,
tried to argue in her "stalking" suit that I was "defaming" her husband,
after I had demonstrated that her "evidence" was nothing but lies. This
would have given me an opening, to discuss all of her husband's misdeeds
in open court. She backed down pretty quick, after I sent a description of
Mike's behavior to their lawyer.
Usenet flame wars are fun, but exposing real people who have committed
serious misconduct, well, you can't get much better than that. I think the
most fun part, was that the slime sucking toad thought, that he would be
protected by "privacy considerations" as an Ambulance Association employee,
from having his misdeeds brought out in public. The letter I sent to the
town must have hit him like a two by four, and I didn't have to pay $10,000
medical bills to repair his "hurt feelings". Although the weasel has been
hiding in Austin, TX for almost a year, I am pretty sure that those feelings
are still busted.
Earle
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nat...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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RJ
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBust...@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44540216$0$24435$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com...
> > We're a tag team! But seriously, the Ryder we rented from Fort Collins to
> > Grand Junction had no trouble with the down grades on I-70. But maybe the
> > mountains are steeper in Montana, than in Colorado. ;^)
>
> ...or maybe the truck you rented wasnt a total piece of shit.
Why anybody would rent a UHaul for a big move mystifies me.
Nathan W. Collier
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> Why anybody would rent a UHaul for a big move mystifies me.
rented a ryder truck a year later and it was no better.
RJ
> "RJ" <re_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1hetrjf.j2gzz19nbafmN%re_...@hotmail.com...
> > Why anybody would rent a UHaul for a big move mystifies me.
>
> rented a ryder truck a year later and it was no better.
You can possibly get a bum truck from anybody, but you are virtually
guaranteed a junker from UHaul.
Last truck I rented was from Penske. Professional operation, good
truck, good rate.