Q for Mike Romain -- or anybody else for that matter
Jeff Strickland
First, the idea. I have the tile steering, and I took the wheel and the turn
signal switch off. I have the lock plate off, and the ignition lockset out.
The lockset turns and moves a lever up and down, this lever connects to the
rod that goes to the ignition switch. After taking the steering wheel off
and getting the other crap out of the way, there is a beauty ring/collar,
for lack of a better word, that is at the very top of the steering column,
immediately below the section that moves with the tilt feature. The rubber
bezel that covers the hole in the dashboard fits around this beauty collar.
Do you have any idea how to remove this collar. Please don't tell me that I
have to pull the steering column to get this off.
Second, the part. The lockset turns and pulls a lever, the lever is
connectecd to the rod, the rod activates the switch. the lever is broken.
The broken part is stuck inside the beauty ring from above. It is made of a
potmetal material, and it simply snapped off the other day. This really
sucks, because I just replaced (in August) the lockset that had failed. Is
this an available part, do you know? I am thinking it is not. Of course, if
you can't help me with the Idea, the Part won't help either.
It is looking like I will have to install an aftermarket ignition switch and
remove all of the factory stuff.
Paul Calman
"Jeff Strickland" < wrote
> My ignition switch took a dump and I need a part, and an idea.
Year and model would be a good start if you want useful information.
Mike Romain
I think that collar comes off from the bottom like you suspect...
Trying to locate that part could be 'interesting'.
I believe you (I do anyway) had a run of the mill saganaw steering
column. These were used in full sized GM vans, Camaros, Firebirds,
Acadians, etc...
Maybe a call to an auto wrecker is called for?
The complete column used might be cheaper than the part you need....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Arvin
question.
I wanted to replace my turn signal switch but I can't get past the lock
ring. How did/do you remove that?
I have an 82 CJ-7 no tilt.
CRWLR
I was hoping you had taken a steering column apart before, and knew exactly
what I was up against. Oh well, I am off to explore.
BTW, What's an Arcadian? I have never heard of that before, and I spent my
formative years deeply involved in the car business. But, you are right, I
have the GM based tilt steering in a CJ, probably from a Camaro or similar
sized car.
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CRWLR
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CRWLR
WHEEL LOCK PLATE REMOVAL TOOL. I bought one yesterday for $9.00. The tool
has a screw that is probably 7" long that screws onto the steering column
after the nut is removed that holds the steering wheel has been removed.
Once the screw is securely attached, there is a thumb screw that you turn to
push the lock plate down to release the spring pressure so that the small
circlip can be removed. As you release the thumb screw, the lock plate will
be pushed off by the heavy spring behind it. Once the lock plate is off, the
turn signal switch can be removed. The Emergency Flasher button is difficult
to remove, but all it takes is a strong yank and it will come off.
You can buy the lock plate tool, or AutoZone will loan it to you for free.
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L.W. Hughes III
Your tilt is straight out of any full size rear wheel drive Chevy,
peruses the bone yards for the broken part or bolt in the whole thing.
Arcadians, are of French descent, and many were driven out of
Canada to become our low life Cagians.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Paul Calman
>peruses the bone yards for the broken part or bolt in the whole >thing.
This one needs a puller to get the plate out, and another to pull out The
pivot pins. the first, is a cheap tool, the second, I just use a long
screwand washer thru a socket. The tumbler is either held in by one of the
screws under the blinker, or a pin-hole gets a paper-clip shoved in.
Mike Romain
column off, so I didn't... ;-)
That would be a Pontiac Acadian or Chevy Chevette there old timer. Need
a new set of specs? LOL!
Mike
Jeff Strickland
matter.
And, yes, I need some new specs, what's your point?
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Jeff Strickland
pivot pins and the spring that pushes up on the bottom. The destructions are
pretty clear, but not very intuitive, they say to tilt the wheel to the
center position and use a special tool to get the pivot pins out, my
inclination is to set the wheel to the full raised position to remove the
pins and the spring. The retainer for the spring looks like I push it in and
give it a 1/4 turn, then hope the spring doesn't break my wrist.
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Mike Romain
Your post said you don't know what an 'Arcadian' was as others responded
to.
I though you were making a funny as if my spell checker jumped it or
something, but no, I spelled it right. Hence the 'need new specs'
comment. No offense intended...
The Chevette and Acadian were the same car with a different badge, like
the Camaro and Firebird. You had to read the label to tell the
difference on the little ones.
Mike
Jeff Strickland
drugs, and forget.
I like to make up words as I go along, I think "Arcadian" was one of my
dilussions.
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Jeff Strickland
for a kit of various parts that I don't need, but I have to buy it to get
the one I do.
AutoZone hasn't got them. Napa has one, but it doesn't look the same in the
picture, and it is a special order.
I want to drive CRWLR for the weekend, but work is getting in the way of
finding parts in time.
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"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have the whole thing apart, except the tilt mechanism. I am stumped by
the
> pivot pins and the spring that pushes up on the bottom. The destructions
are
> pretty clear, but not very intuitive, they say to tilt the wheel to the
> center position and use a special tool to get the pivot pins out, my
> inclination is to set the wheel to the full raised position to remove the
> pins and the spring. The retainer for the spring looks like I push it in
and
> give it a 1/4 turn, then hope the spring doesn't break my wrist.
>
The spring clip comes out with a screwdriver, not a lot of force there, just
push and turn. Then, the pins, find a long screw of the same thread, put
awasher on it, and screw it in, thru a socket big enough for the pin to fit
into. You could aternatley get a really long screw and use a really big(1.25
inches+) socket as a slide hammer to pull them out.
After they are out, off with the outer half, now the three screws that hold
the rest on are accessable. make sure to use lock-tite when putting them
back in.
Fun stuff, huh?
Paul Calman
> Back to my problem, I have a broken "lock rack". The stealership wants $75
> for a kit of various parts that I don't need, but I have to buy it to get
> the one I do.
My local CarQuest stocks them, in a blister pack from the "Help" company.
I don't think the quality is less than dealer's, but the price sure is.
KurtS
http://www.jwjeep.com at call. They've never NOT been able to find a part
for me.
Jeff Strickland
won't go there unless I have to.
You may recall that they fired a Navy reserveist because he went to do his
reserve duty instead of showing up for his shift at Pep Boys.
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L.W. Hughes III
I heard, maybe on a replay of my local TV news I watch an
advertisement for their TV Magazine about the employer's responsibility
to the serviceman called to duty, and what in reality happens, I think
for tonight, maybe ABC.
Jeff Strickland
lock rack that I need is among that selection. It cost $8.99, the
stealership wanted $75.00.
Thanks for the tip, I would have never thunk of Help stuff for this part.
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Mike Romain
Thanks,
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
L.W. Hughes III
Jeff Strickland
the little cable that fits inside the brakes that has a loop on one end and
a hook on the other? There is a Help part for this cable. Help also makes
the turn signal switch and a shitload of vacuum parts. They also have every
grommet and hole plug you can think of. They have a variety of window
cranks and door handles, they have drain plugs and gear shift knobs. The
"problem" with Help stuff is that they make lots of stuff, and most stores
simply don't have the space to carry all of it, and there is no apparent
catelog that you can use to get the item you want. Obviously, the larger
stores will have larger selections of stuff. I recently paid $26 for the
ignition lockset, I now suspect Help makes the equivelent part for under
$10.
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mabar
Does Help brand parts have a website that you know of?
Tom
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products.
Mike
Paul Calman
"mabar" <ma...@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Jeff:
>
> Does Help brand parts have a website that you know of?
I don't know about a website, but my carquest has a catalog there. Back to
the hammers, I do hope you backed it up with an anvil of some kind, as Bill
pointed out, flailing away at it can damage the bearings. They are not hard
to change( seal too), when the link is off.
Another method, i didn't think of till today, if the old part is to be
discarded, cutting almost all the way through with a cut-off wheel would
allow a chisel to crack the last bit (protecting the shaft) and spread it,
should come off really easy wedged open. Use cutting torch, for braver
souls, but in either case, use wet rags to keep the heat down.
Jeff Strickland
I do know that there is so much stuff that they make that virtually every
store you go into will have a different mix of products, and the larger
store will have a wider selection of stuff than the smaller stores. That
said, it is very possible that the part you need on any given expedition for
parts could be found at the small store instead of the larger one. It is
purely a crap-shoot without a catelog. I have two auto parts stores across
the street from each other, different corners of the same intersection, and
they carry completely different mixes of Help stuff.
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Will Honea
wrote:
> I do not know of a Website for them. Sorry.
>
> I do know that there is so much stuff that they make that virtually every
> store you go into will have a different mix of products, and the larger
> store will have a wider selection of stuff than the smaller stores. That
> said, it is very possible that the part you need on any given expedition for
> parts could be found at the small store instead of the larger one. It is
> purely a crap-shoot without a catelog. I have two auto parts stores across
> the street from each other, different corners of the same intersection, and
> they carry completely different mixes of Help stuff.
And neither seems to carry the exact part I want, whatever it is that
day <g>. I'd like to find a full-line source on the web if anyone
runs across one.
--
Will Honea <who...@codenet.net>