Jeep TJ, Coolant leaking from front oil pan gasket?

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Nick Hughes

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Aug 4, 2007, 4:03:20 PM8/4/07
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Hi Folks,

My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
isn't dripping from above hoses.

The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
a drive.

Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.

Any insight is appreciated.

Thanks so much,
Nick

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 4, 2007, 4:32:53 PM8/4/07
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Hi Nick,
I think you'll find it's leaking from the water pump, from underneath
look up following the lower hose up to the pump and at the shaft you will
see the stains from coolant leaking from the weep hole:
http://www.autopartsauthority.com/specials/images/cherokee-water-pump-1.jpg
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Nick Hughes

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Aug 4, 2007, 4:50:05 PM8/4/07
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Thanks Bill. Other people have suggested the water pump. It's
possible that the engine is evaporating the coolant drip trail, so I
can't see it.

I'm going to replace it, the thermostat and serpentine belt all at the
same time.

Nick

On Aug 4, 4:32 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"


<LWBillHug...@hughes.net> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> I think you'll find it's leaking from the water pump, from underneath
> look up following the lower hose up to the pump and at the shaft you will

> see the stains from coolant leaking from the weep hole:http://www.autopartsauthority.com/specials/images/cherokee-water-pump...


> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

> mailto:LWHughes...@aol.comhttp://www.billhughes.com/
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d

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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:03:20 -0700, Nick Hughes <nixo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You might want to clean everything as best you can, then get a
pressure tester and look for leaks. It goes on in place of your
radiator cap and has a hand pump to pressurize your system. Places
like AutoZone, etc. sometimes loans them out.

Good luck
Darrell

Mike Romain

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Aug 4, 2007, 5:52:16 PM8/4/07
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After you stop and it cools for a bit, reach down under the nose of the
waterpump just behind the pulley to see if you can feel wet. If so, the
pump seal is going.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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Nick Hughes

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Aug 4, 2007, 8:18:07 PM8/4/07
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I still don't see any wetness around the water pump. In any case,
I'll try changing it and it's seal. I changed the oil today and did
notice that it was very BLACK. I think it was changed around 4k ago,
but I have never seen it this black. No signs of white or milky oil.

Thanks

On Aug 4, 5:52 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> After you stop and it cools for a bit, reach down under the nose of the
> waterpump just behind the pulley to see if you can feel wet. If so, the
> pump seal is going.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!

> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590

Nick Hughes

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On Aug 4, 5:27 pm, d <wtami...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:03:20 -0700, Nick Hughes <nixon8...@gmail.com>

Thanks for the advice. I'll try the tester also.

Nick

T. Greening

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Aug 4, 2007, 9:53:54 PM8/4/07
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Nick Hughes wrote:
> I still don't see any wetness around the water pump. In any case,
> I'll try changing it and it's seal. I changed the oil today and did
> notice that it was very BLACK. I think it was changed around 4k ago,
> but I have never seen it this black. No signs of white or milky oil.
>
> Thanks
>


I used to have a big dually chevy with a 454. On a trip to maine it
started overheating and when I checked the radiator fluid it was way
low. I go hmmm, refill and boogie on down the road only to overheat
again, find the fluid low again, and this time radiator fluid all over
the engine and underside of the hood. Radiator cap - tight, but loosen
and retighten anyway. Hoses - intact. Water pump - not visibly leaking.

I refilled yet again and this time run the motor for a good 20 minutes
looking for leaks and none to be found, so head on down the road and tan
my hide if it doesn't happen again. I refill everything, run threw all
the checks again and stand there watching the motor run and not leak
while scratching my head. Finally I reach a foot in the door and start
bringing the rpm up while watching under the hood. Nothing at idle,
nothing at 1500 rpm, 2000 rpm, 2500, 3000 and bingo, the upper radiator
hose starts emitting a nice little stream of fluid from a pinhole.

New hose and I'm a happy camper headed on down the road. Happy that is
until some Nanny from Israel loses control of her bosses rice burner and
side swipes my nice purdy truck just outside of boston. Other than all
that it was a good trip.

The point is your water has to be going somewhere. It is either leaking
from the hose, radiator, water pump, or head (does a tj have a water
cooled intake?). If it's not escaping there then it's going in the oil
(which you say it is not) or it's going up in smoke out the exhaust,
which means maybe a bad head gasket or worse, cracked head. A bad head
gasket could allow it to directly leak out of the motor as well. Don't
just inspect around the water pump/radiator area. Look for water stains
down the side of the block.

If you are losing that much water each trip AND it was in the exhaust
it should be fairly easy to tell, since your exhaust should be visibly
white. Think fog coming out your tail pipe. Likewise easily visible in
your oil.

Mike Romain

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Aug 4, 2007, 10:58:01 PM8/4/07
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T. Greening wrote:
Nothing at idle,
> nothing at 1500 rpm, 2000 rpm, 2500, 3000 and bingo, the upper radiator
> hose starts emitting a nice little stream of fluid from a pinhole.

I have had the same thing happen. I figured it out when my battery on
the firewall kept getting wet with coolant.

Mike

Kate

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"Nick Hughes" <nixo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Bill. Other people have suggested the water pump. It's
possible that the engine is evaporating the coolant drip trail, so I
can't see it.

I'm going to replace it, the thermostat and serpentine belt all at the
same time.

Nick

Hey Nick,
While you're there, go ahead and replace those hoses.
It's probabaly time.

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon


Lee Ayrton

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Aug 5, 2007, 2:04:51 PM8/5/07
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For my `89 XJ it was a pinhole in the coolant overflow bottle ghosting
away my coolant.

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that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Lon

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Aug 5, 2007, 8:07:03 PM8/5/07
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Lee Ayrton proclaimed:

> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> T. Greening wrote:
>> Nothing at idle,
>>
>>> nothing at 1500 rpm, 2000 rpm, 2500, 3000 and bingo, the upper
>>> radiator hose starts emitting a nice little stream of fluid from a
>>> pinhole.
>>
>>
>> I have had the same thing happen. I figured it out when my battery on
>> the firewall kept getting wet with coolant.
>
>
> For my `89 XJ it was a pinhole in the coolant overflow bottle ghosting
> away my coolant.

Anyone know what particular plastic the coolant recovery and washer
bottle on Jeeps are made of?

I have a crack in the washer bottle [and have a new bottle waiting for
the additional round tuit] where it would seem that by using a bit of
fiberglass window screen as a support, the old bottle could be recovered
with the fiberglass and an appropriate glue--which could include a hot
gun melt glue if necessary.

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N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

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Aug 5, 2007, 9:07:38 PM8/5/07
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:32:53 -0700, L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:

> Hi Wrick,
> I think you'll find it's leaking from my ureter, where it was
> punctured by a rusty nail (got scars from the broken glass on my
> hands and knees too). From underneath look up past my scarred testes
> and following the lower hose up to the knob of the shaft
> you will see the urine stains leaking from what I now call my

Oh, Bill....

I've asked you countless times to stop bragging about that....

Anyway, pulling a train in an alleyway is not exactly something to brag
about.

Please stop.

Nobody visits anymore, even the grandkids are beginning to catch on,
especially when you wear that horrible snakeskin Speedo with your tutu --
the Speedo is supposed to be worn /under/ the skirt, BTW.

Why didn't I just jump off the Blarney Castle??


Nancy

>
>
> "Nick Hughes" <nixo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186257800.0...@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
>> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
>> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
>> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on with
>> hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the front
>> passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom of the
>> oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak isn't
>> dripping from above hoses.
>>
>> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
>> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
>> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
>> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
>> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
>> a drive.
>>
>> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to replace
>> the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me to
>> believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>>
>> Any insight is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Nick
>>

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-- Nancy Hughes III

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 5, 2007, 11:39:17 PM8/5/07
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This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrep...@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it
writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no
one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and
loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving
I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a
Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more
senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take
responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: intern...@shaw.ca,
secu...@shaw.ca, ab...@shaw.ca, interne...@sjrb.ca, ab...@aioe.org,
ad...@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing

all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from a Capricorn.
It's what you wrote, don't you want this group to see what an a**hole
you really are?????

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:

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> Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
>
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

Arrest him for what, precisely?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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It is a traitor and should have been shot back in the seventies for
draft evasion!

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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> Arrest him for what, precisely?

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Nick Hughes

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HI Folks

Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.

I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.

Thanks again,
Nick

DougW

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Aug 6, 2007, 6:13:20 PM8/6/07
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Nick Hughes wrote:
> HI Folks
>
> Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
> for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
> pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
> the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
> I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
> like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
> tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.

Thanks for letting us know how you fixed the problem.

I'm probably going to have to do the same thing on my ZJ
fairly soonish. Still have the original pump. :]

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had
to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via
remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just
gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of
Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its
senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to
use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would,
totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing

all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from a Capricorn.
It's what you wrote, don't you want this group to see what an a**hole
you really are?????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

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> Damn Goatman, I've heard that you where physically dragged, kicking &
> screaming, and even broke the trailer door trying to get away from the
> draft

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> It is a traitor and should have been shot back in the seventies for
> draft evasion!

You didn't answer my question, Bill. Arrest him for what, precisely?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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I'm not intending to imply insult or judgment here but I am curious to
know in order to be able to respond to your posts in an appropriate manner,
so please forgive what appears to be, but in fact is not
intended as, an insulting question: Are you stupid

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> I'm not intending to imply insult or judgment here but I am curious to
> know in order to be able to respond to your posts in an appropriate manner,

That'd be a first for you.

> so please forgive what appears to be, but in fact is not
> intended as, an insulting question:

Realizing your mental limitations, I see nothing wrong in being generous.

>Are you stupid

Do you always find it this hard to answer simple questions, Bill? Maybe
if I rephrase it slightly, you might understand: What would you have
the power to arrest him for? What offence, EXACTLY, not some vague
accusation of "treason."

There, is that easier?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Absent Without Leave, punishable by death, during war. And knowing this
coward works, it never took advantage of Jimmy Carter's draft evasion
amnesty. So it's still a criminal traitor, and I would like to be the one
that arrest SW. UNDERSTAND now lame brain!

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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> That'd be a first for you.
>

> Realizing your mental limitations, I see nothing wrong in being generous.
>

> Do you always find it this hard to answer simple questions, Bill? Maybe
> if I rephrase it slightly, you might understand: What would you have
> the power to arrest him for? What offence, EXACTLY, not some vague
> accusation of "treason."
>
> There, is that easier?

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:18:11 -0700, L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:


> Absent Without Leave, punishable by death, during war.

Desertion is much more severe than simply AWOL (not that you'd know why).

The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although
this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945


> And knowing this
> coward works, it never took advantage of Jimmy Carter's draft evasion
> amnesty.


Did not apply as I was not an evader.

Besides, amnesty comes from 'amnos', meaning to forget.

I have done nothing that needs 'forgetting'.


> So it's still a criminal traitor

Not according to any laws of any country.

> and I would like to be the one
> that arrest SW.

And I'm looking forward to watching you try, as they haul your pathetic
away.


> UNDERSTAND now lame brain!


No, you still don't.


http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1930387.php

"Another report stated that since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all
branches of the military have deserted, also according to the Pentagon.
More than half of these served in the US Army."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5024104.stm

"The UK military has reported over 1000 deserters since the beginning of
the war in Iraq, with 566 deserting since 2005."

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


Oh grow up.


And EOT.

Message has been deleted

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 12, 2007, 8:37:13 PM8/12/07
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This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrep...@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole
you, aka SW really is!!!!!
Lets test it. give me a time when you're on this side of the American
border, and I' fly up and the Minutemen will arrest you.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Pink Freud" <psycho...@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
news:KNHvi.54783$rX4.42679@pd7urf2no...


>
> Desertion is much more severe than simply AWOL (not that you'd know why).
>
> The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although
> this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945
>
>
>

> Did not apply as I was not an evader.
>
> Besides, amnesty comes from 'amnos', meaning to forget.
>
> I have done nothing that needs 'forgetting'.
>
>

> Not according to any laws of any country.
>
>

> And I'm looking forward to watching you try, as they haul your pathetic
> away.
>
>
> > UNDERSTAND now lame brain!
>
>
> No, you still don't.
>
>
> http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1930387.php
>
> "Another report stated that since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all
> branches of the military have deserted, also according to the Pentagon.
> More than half of these served in the US Army."
>
>
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5024104.stm
>
> "The UK military has reported over 1000 deserters since the beginning of
> the war in Iraq, with 566 deserting since 2005."
>
>

> Oh grow up.
>
>
> And EOT.

--

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 12, 2007, 8:38:20 PM8/12/07
to
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of

course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like

when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid

head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing

all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as
you suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
news:q6pub39s92k8ad3mc...@4ax.com...
>
> Well you brain is AWOL, need a hole in your fat ass.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III

N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

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--

"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"

-- Nancy Hughes III

Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

`

`

N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

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"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"

-- Nancy Hughes III

Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

"N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII" <nanc...@coccyx.net> wrote in message

news:DzOvi.54086$_d2.24941@pd7urf3no...
><nothing>

--

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 12, 2007, 9:56:43 PM8/12/07
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Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and

that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!

Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole
you, aka SW really is!!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

"N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII" <nanc...@coccyx.net> wrote in message

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><nothing>

--

Cassandra Incognito

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Aug 14, 2007, 3:05:56 PM8/14/07
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> Absent Without Leave, punishable by death, during war. And knowing this
> coward works, it never took advantage of Jimmy Carter's draft evasion
> amnesty. So it's still a criminal traitor, and I would like to be the one
> that arrest SW. UNDERSTAND now lame brain!

Being AWOL is not treason, Bill. God, you're stupid!

http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t103.htm

OR, for a wordier article which says the same thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 14, 2007, 6:33:19 PM8/14/07
to
Once the bastard disobeyed an order and ran across the border, during
war time, I'm sure there will be many over the years that will step forward
and prove it is a traitor!
"The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason
against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in
adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is
punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person
shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to
the same overt act, or on confession in open court."
NOW get the f*ck out of my America, we don't need any more cowards, like
your header proves you are!

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message

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>
> Being AWOL is not treason, Bill. God, you're stupid!
>
> http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t103.htm
>
> OR, for a wordier article which says the same thing:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

--

c

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Aug 15, 2007, 2:30:16 AM8/15/07
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You are an idiot.

Cassandra Incognito

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Aug 15, 2007, 5:53:54 AM8/15/07
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> Once the bastard disobeyed an order and ran across the border, during
> war time, I'm sure there will be many over the years that will step forward
> and prove it is a traitor!

Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
service and joining the enemy is treason.

Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.

> "The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason
> against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in
> adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is
> punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person
> shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to
> the same overt act, or on confession in open court."

Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.

> NOW get the f*ck out of my America, we don't need any more cowards, like
> your header proves you are!

Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
your comments out of your replies.

P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
Bill. Why is that?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 15, 2007, 5:33:40 PM8/15/07
to
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole
you, aka SW really is!!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"c" <c...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
>
> You are an idiot.

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 15, 2007, 5:48:01 PM8/15/07
to
No one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous coward,
over mine that everyone knows and trusts, whose real name and address are
for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents did, and
taught me to take responsibility for my actions. And so far you haven't even
had the guts to call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. at:
858-974-2020 They're waiting for you. :-)
In the mean time crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low life,
losers!
I directed you to a link that would read your fingerprint, as most all
firewall program sellers do. Try any!!!!! loser.
I will be forwarding your posts to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures as you got to be that faggot, SW.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com

"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
news:M2Awi.46979$xx1....@newsfe09.phx...


>
> Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
> not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
> neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
> service and joining the enemy is treason.
>
> Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.
>

> Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.
>

> Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
> your comments out of your replies.
>
> P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
> Bill. Why is that?

--

§qu@re Wheels

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Aug 15, 2007, 6:05:53 PM8/15/07
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On this particular day of this month, in the Year Of The Golden Pig, L.W.
(Bill) Hughes III did state:


Message-ID: <46c366ba$0$30102$8826...@free.teranews.com>


And you're still an idiot.


--
From: billh...@cox.net (via teranews)

> > Reported to: intern...@shaw.ca, ab...@shaw.ca,
interne...@sjrb.ca

> And they are very tired of you.

Message-ID: <464119a9$0$16368$8826...@free.teranews.com>

Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the
problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and
long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency,
I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive.

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Oh, so you're back to your schizophrenic SW.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"§qu@re Wheels" <ouzo-uzi@drunken_aim.net> wrote in message
news:5NKwi.62316$rX4.22547@pd7urf2no...


>
> And you're still an idiot.

<snip forgery>

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 15, 2007, 9:49:41 PM8/15/07
to
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing

all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures

groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as
you suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message

news:mp77c391q6rqcq5uk...@4ax.com...
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!


>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III

--

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

unread,
Aug 15, 2007, 9:51:43 PM8/15/07
to
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid
head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or
even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing

all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures

groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as
you suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message

news:nu57c31j9ben8jba4...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:33:40 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!

> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III

--

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message

news:rv57c35ne7n5l7a19...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:48:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"


> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
>

> > No one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous coward,
> >over mine that everyone knows and trusts,

> Oh please, your so full of shit, how do you believe a LIAR.


>
>
> > whose real name and address are
> >for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents did,

> Oh, your parents had a poor web page like yours.


>
> >taught me to take responsibility for my actions.

> The only part you got right is how to lie!


>
>
> And so far you haven't even
> >had the guts to call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. at:
> >858-974-2020 They're waiting for you.

> Stupidity doesn't run in your family, it gallops.


>
> > In the mean time crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low
life,
> >losers!

> Yep, you got a hole to, to bad your to old to use it.


> > I directed you to a link that would read your fingerprint, as most
all
> >firewall program sellers do. Try any!!!!! loser.

> Anyone running 5 firewall's should know, LIAR.


>
> > I will be forwarding your posts to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
> >alt.binaries.automobile.pictures as you got to be that faggot, SW.

> What's the matter you can't get an IP address? The only reason you
> forward, is because you squirt your paints disrupting other groups.


>
> > Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >mailto:LWHug...@aol.com
> >
> >"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:M2Awi.46979$xx1....@newsfe09.phx...
> >>
> >> Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
> >> not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
> >> neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
> >> service and joining the enemy is treason.
> >>
> >> Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.
> >>
> >> Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.
> >>
> >> Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
> >> your comments out of your replies.
> >>
> >> P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
> >> Bill. Why is that?
>

> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III

--

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message

news:dg57c3t6pfku4tg6i...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:33:19 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"


> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
>

> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III

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Cassandra Incognito

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Aug 16, 2007, 8:23:29 PM8/16/07
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> No one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous coward,
> over mine that everyone knows and trusts, whose real name and address are
> for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents did, and
> taught me to take responsibility for my actions.

Funny thing, then, that I have a higher rating than you in Google
Groups, screwhead.

Me = 4 out of 5 stars, 42 ratings:

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=KEexOwsAAACXSLro2NTh67em2nBYADOh

You currently = 3 out of 5 stars, 23 ratings:

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=V4Y2KRcAAAAfrwyj43GNwPZ-JLWZcmMFp4d5YZlXC9WXIWQGkz9aQQ

You before you got nuked from Cox, where you posted longer and thus had
a more accurate ranking = 2 out of 5 stars, 68 ratings:

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=6-rq8BIAAAAsBhAo0hYfS-TvRunkKKZSpbyajUBv9M9XLUB2gqkZmQ

>And so far you haven't even
> had the guts to call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. at:
> 858-974-2020 They're waiting for you. :-)

Why would they be waiting for me to call? What lies have you told them
about me, Bill?

I think you're so sore from getting punted around the newsgroup like a
soccer ball that you're forgetting which poster you had which particular
kook fight with. Are you getting dizzy from all the shoe tips in your
backside, perhaps?

> In the mean time crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low life,
> losers!
> I directed you to a link that would read your fingerprint, as most all
> firewall program sellers do. Try any!!!!! loser.

Yeah, I'm sure you did. But that has nothing to do with what you said,
which was that "we" (meaning you and someone else) could read my
computer fingerprint. You also implies that news servers place cookies
on computers when someone reads them. Did you have any support for that?

> I will be forwarding your posts to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
> alt.binaries.automobile.pictures as you got to be that faggot, SW.


Oh ho ho ho! So now I'm your nemesis in Canada, too? Bill, Bill, is
there any point at which it will dawn on you that those "Kick Me" signs
on your back are put there by YOU?

Why, for the love of God, would you WANT to expand the audience of
people who will make fun of you?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 16, 2007, 12:48:57 AM8/16/07
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I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 16, 2007, 11:37:15 PM8/16/07
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I repeat, no one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous

coward, over mine that everyone knows and trusts, whose real name and
address are for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents
did, and taught me to take responsibility for my actions.
And so far you haven't even had the guts to call my friends at the San
Diego Sheriffs Dept. at: 858-974-2020 We're waiting for you. :-)
And we are laughing at you, you're too stupid to know it.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message

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>
> Funny thing, then, that I have a higher rating than you in Google
> Groups, screwhead.
>
> Me = 4 out of 5 stars, 42 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=KEexOwsAAACXSLro2NTh67em2nBYADOh
>
> You currently = 3 out of 5 stars, 23 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=V4Y2KRcAAAAfrwyj43GNwPZ-JLWZcmMFp4d5YZlXC9WXIWQGkz9aQQ
>
> You before you got nuked from Cox, where you posted longer and thus had
> a more accurate ranking = 2 out of 5 stars, 68 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=6-rq8BIAAAAsBhAo0hYfS-TvRunkKKZSpbyajUBv9M9XLUB2gqkZmQ
>
>

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 16, 2007, 12:49:27 AM8/16/07
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I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>
>

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 16, 2007, 12:50:00 AM8/16/07
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I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


"24BitŽ" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 16, 2007, 12:50:29 AM8/16/07
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I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


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>
>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>
>

Pink Freud

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Aug 17, 2007, 1:09:35 AM8/17/07
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:37:15 -0700, L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:


> I repeat, no one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous
> coward, over mine that everyone knows and trusts

Give us some names, Billie, of people who actually and truly do /know/
you PERSONALLY. People from this froup most especially.

And then give us names of people who actually /do/ trust you.

Any anyone who does, please jump right in with your praise for Mr. Hughes,
Destroyer of Newsgroups.


> And we are laughing at you, you're too stupid to know it.


Who is this infernal 'we' you keep mentioning?

Names, Billie, names.

If you have even one champion, I'd love to hear about it. From /them/.


Sorry, Bildo, but from where most people are sitting, you're all alone.
Here in Usenet and in real life. And ss it should be. You've worked long
and hard to be so disliked by so many, even the majority of your own
family. They'd disown you, but they're waiting for the Will to be read.

Poor goatman.

Cassandra Incognito

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Aug 17, 2007, 1:18:25 AM8/17/07
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
> I repeat, no one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous
> coward, over mine that everyone knows and trusts, whose real name and
> address are for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents
> did, and taught me to take responsibility for my actions.

You can repeat it all you want, but you can't support it. I've shown at
least one source that values my input far more than yours, Chunky.
You've got nothing but a lot of hot air.

> And so far you haven't even had the guts to call my friends at the San
> Diego Sheriffs Dept. at: 858-974-2020 We're waiting for you. :-)

Why would I want to call them? What exactly is it you're expecting?

> And we are laughing at you, you're too stupid to know it.

Who's this "we" you keep referring to, Koko?

L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 17, 2007, 3:59:30 PM8/17/07
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This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrep...@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make

a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a

little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: intern...@shaw.ca,
secu...@shaw.ca, ab...@shaw.ca, interne...@sjrb.ca, ab...@aioe.org,
ad...@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and

that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave

it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole
you, aka SW really is!!!!!
And then you would give me your name? <ROTFLMAO> Once a coward homo,
always a coward homo.

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III

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Aug 17, 2007, 4:02:09 PM8/17/07
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Yup there at least two more faggot cowards that side with you.
Oh, and thanks little jealous pervert, for the ammunition to send abuse
at COX and Teranews block you and other low lifes that use databasix. :-)
You've given me reason to devote my energies to persuading Real News Servers
to block everyone from databasix, I know I've cost them millions in
commercial revenues. :-)

God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/


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>
> You can repeat it all you want, but you can't support it. I've shown at
> least one source that values my input far more than yours, Chunky.
> You've got nothing but a lot of hot air.
>

> Why would I want to call them? What exactly is it you're expecting?
>

> Who's this "we" you keep referring to, Koko?

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