My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on
with hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the
front passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom
of the oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak
isn't dripping from above hoses.
The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
a drive.
Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to
replace the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me
to believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
Any insight is appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Nick
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I'm going to replace it, the thermostat and serpentine belt all at the
same time.
Nick
On Aug 4, 4:32 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
<LWBillHug...@hughes.net> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> I think you'll find it's leaking from the water pump, from underneath
> look up following the lower hose up to the pump and at the shaft you will
> see the stains from coolant leaking from the weep hole:http://www.autopartsauthority.com/specials/images/cherokee-water-pump...
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHughes...@aol.comhttp://www.billhughes.com/
>
> "Nick Hughes" <nixon8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
You might want to clean everything as best you can, then get a
pressure tester and look for leaks. It goes on in place of your
radiator cap and has a hand pump to pressurize your system. Places
like AutoZone, etc. sometimes loans them out.
Good luck
Darrell
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Thanks
On Aug 4, 5:52 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> After you stop and it cools for a bit, reach down under the nose of the
> waterpump just behind the pulley to see if you can feel wet. If so, the
> pump seal is going.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
Thanks for the advice. I'll try the tester also.
Nick
I used to have a big dually chevy with a 454. On a trip to maine it
started overheating and when I checked the radiator fluid it was way
low. I go hmmm, refill and boogie on down the road only to overheat
again, find the fluid low again, and this time radiator fluid all over
the engine and underside of the hood. Radiator cap - tight, but loosen
and retighten anyway. Hoses - intact. Water pump - not visibly leaking.
I refilled yet again and this time run the motor for a good 20 minutes
looking for leaks and none to be found, so head on down the road and tan
my hide if it doesn't happen again. I refill everything, run threw all
the checks again and stand there watching the motor run and not leak
while scratching my head. Finally I reach a foot in the door and start
bringing the rpm up while watching under the hood. Nothing at idle,
nothing at 1500 rpm, 2000 rpm, 2500, 3000 and bingo, the upper radiator
hose starts emitting a nice little stream of fluid from a pinhole.
New hose and I'm a happy camper headed on down the road. Happy that is
until some Nanny from Israel loses control of her bosses rice burner and
side swipes my nice purdy truck just outside of boston. Other than all
that it was a good trip.
The point is your water has to be going somewhere. It is either leaking
from the hose, radiator, water pump, or head (does a tj have a water
cooled intake?). If it's not escaping there then it's going in the oil
(which you say it is not) or it's going up in smoke out the exhaust,
which means maybe a bad head gasket or worse, cracked head. A bad head
gasket could allow it to directly leak out of the motor as well. Don't
just inspect around the water pump/radiator area. Look for water stains
down the side of the block.
If you are losing that much water each trip AND it was in the exhaust
it should be fairly easy to tell, since your exhaust should be visibly
white. Think fog coming out your tail pipe. Likewise easily visible in
your oil.
I have had the same thing happen. I figured it out when my battery on
the firewall kept getting wet with coolant.
Mike
I'm going to replace it, the thermostat and serpentine belt all at the
same time.
Nick
Hey Nick,
While you're there, go ahead and replace those hoses.
It's probabaly time.
Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
For my `89 XJ it was a pinhole in the coolant overflow bottle ghosting
away my coolant.
--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> T. Greening wrote:
>> Nothing at idle,
>>
>>> nothing at 1500 rpm, 2000 rpm, 2500, 3000 and bingo, the upper
>>> radiator hose starts emitting a nice little stream of fluid from a
>>> pinhole.
>>
>>
>> I have had the same thing happen. I figured it out when my battery on
>> the firewall kept getting wet with coolant.
>
>
> For my `89 XJ it was a pinhole in the coolant overflow bottle ghosting
> away my coolant.
Anyone know what particular plastic the coolant recovery and washer
bottle on Jeeps are made of?
I have a crack in the washer bottle [and have a new bottle waiting for
the additional round tuit] where it would seem that by using a bit of
fiberglass window screen as a support, the old bottle could be recovered
with the fiberglass and an appropriate glue--which could include a hot
gun melt glue if necessary.
> Hi Wrick,
> I think you'll find it's leaking from my ureter, where it was
> punctured by a rusty nail (got scars from the broken glass on my
> hands and knees too). From underneath look up past my scarred testes
> and following the lower hose up to the knob of the shaft
> you will see the urine stains leaking from what I now call my
> weep hole:
> http://www.autopartsauthority.com/specials/images/cherokee-water-pump-1.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Oh, Bill....
I've asked you countless times to stop bragging about that....
Anyway, pulling a train in an alleyway is not exactly something to brag
about.
Please stop.
Nobody visits anymore, even the grandkids are beginning to catch on,
especially when you wear that horrible snakeskin Speedo with your tutu --
the Speedo is supposed to be worn /under/ the skirt, BTW.
Why didn't I just jump off the Blarney Castle??
Nancy
>
>
> "Nick Hughes" <nixo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186257800.0...@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> My 2000 Jeep TJ 6CYL 4.0L has been leaking coolant for some time.
>> Originally, it appeared to leak from the top of the radiator. Given
>> this, I replaced the radiator. Then it started leaking from where the
>> lower hose connects to the radiator. I then tightened the hose on with
>> hose clamps. Now its still leaking from what appears to be the front
>> passenger side of the oil pan, between the gasket and the bottom of the
>> oil pan below the serpentine belt. I'm pretty sure the leak isn't
>> dripping from above hoses.
>>
>> The Jeep has almost 150k miles on it. I suspected a bad water pump,
>> however there is no coolant leaking around the water pump gasket. I
>> pulled the oil stick and confirmed the oil is brown, not milky white.
>> When I changed the oil it didn't appear to have coolant mixed in. The
>> cylinders are not misfiring. It's leaking about 1/3 gallon of coolant
>> a drive.
>>
>> Does anyone have suggestions on the root cause? I was going to replace
>> the water pump and thermostat, but the symptoms don't lead me to
>> believe they are at fault. It seems like an over-pressure problem.
>>
>> Any insight is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Nick
>>
--
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"
-- Nancy Hughes III
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
"N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII" <nanc...@coccyx.net> wrote in message
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><snip queer fantasies over goats and my tanned svelte surfer body, and the
obviously senile babbling over my accomplishments, conquests, family, and
name.>
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mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
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><snip queer faggot fantasies over my tanned surfer body, and the jealous
senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests>
[snip]
> Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
>
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Arrest him for what, precisely?
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Arrest him for what, precisely?
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Just an update. Also, I would like to thank everyone in this group
for the help and suggestions. From what it appears, it was the water
pump. It must have been leaking out the "weep hole" or the hold that
the fan shaft goes into. I replaced it, the thermostat and fan belt.
I made sure to clean all the old gasket material off. So far it looks
like the antifreeze is holding in the system. I used a pressure
tester and it held 18psi for 2 minutes.
The job was fairly straight forward, but even with an air ratchet it
took some time.
I figured out how to remove the fan assembly from the fan pulley. In
the 2000 TJ 6cyl 4.0L, there are four bolts that hold on the fan
pulley. I placed a box wrench on one of the bolts and held it
steady. At the same time, I placed a large adjustable wrench on the
big single bolt for the fan. This is how I unscrewed the fan
assembly. Then after I remove the four bolts holding the fan/water
pump pulley on, I used a rubber mallet to knock it free. It was
pretty suck on there.
Thanks again,
Nick
Thanks for letting us know how you fixed the problem.
I'm probably going to have to do the same thing on my ZJ
fairly soonish. Still have the original pump. :]
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
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>
> Damn Goatman, I've heard that you where physically dragged, kicking &
> screaming, and even broke the trailer door trying to get away from the
> draft
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><snip queer fantasies that others may need to know what your psychopath
traits are.>
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><snip queer fantasies that others may need to know what your psychopath
traits are.>
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You didn't answer my question, Bill. Arrest him for what, precisely?
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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That'd be a first for you.
> so please forgive what appears to be, but in fact is not
> intended as, an insulting question:
Realizing your mental limitations, I see nothing wrong in being generous.
>Are you stupid
Do you always find it this hard to answer simple questions, Bill? Maybe
if I rephrase it slightly, you might understand: What would you have
the power to arrest him for? What offence, EXACTLY, not some vague
accusation of "treason."
There, is that easier?
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> That'd be a first for you.
>
> Realizing your mental limitations, I see nothing wrong in being generous.
>
> Do you always find it this hard to answer simple questions, Bill? Maybe
> if I rephrase it slightly, you might understand: What would you have
> the power to arrest him for? What offence, EXACTLY, not some vague
> accusation of "treason."
>
> There, is that easier?
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> Absent Without Leave, punishable by death, during war.
Desertion is much more severe than simply AWOL (not that you'd know why).
The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although
this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945
> And knowing this
> coward works, it never took advantage of Jimmy Carter's draft evasion
> amnesty.
Did not apply as I was not an evader.
Besides, amnesty comes from 'amnos', meaning to forget.
I have done nothing that needs 'forgetting'.
> So it's still a criminal traitor
Not according to any laws of any country.
> and I would like to be the one
> that arrest SW.
And I'm looking forward to watching you try, as they haul your pathetic
away.
> UNDERSTAND now lame brain!
No, you still don't.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1930387.php
"Another report stated that since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all
branches of the military have deserted, also according to the Pentagon.
More than half of these served in the US Army."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5024104.stm
"The UK military has reported over 1000 deserters since the beginning of
the war in Iraq, with 566 deserting since 2005."
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Oh grow up.
And EOT.
"Pink Freud" <psycho...@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
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>
> Desertion is much more severe than simply AWOL (not that you'd know why).
>
> The maximum U.S. penalty for desertion in wartime remains death, although
> this punishment was last applied to Eddie Slovik in 1945
>
>
>
> Did not apply as I was not an evader.
>
> Besides, amnesty comes from 'amnos', meaning to forget.
>
> I have done nothing that needs 'forgetting'.
>
>
> Not according to any laws of any country.
>
>
> And I'm looking forward to watching you try, as they haul your pathetic
> away.
>
>
> > UNDERSTAND now lame brain!
>
>
> No, you still don't.
>
>
> http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1930387.php
>
> "Another report stated that since 2000, about 40,000 troops from all
> branches of the military have deserted, also according to the Pentagon.
> More than half of these served in the US Army."
>
>
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5024104.stm
>
> "The UK military has reported over 1000 deserters since the beginning of
> the war in Iraq, with 566 deserting since 2005."
>
>
> Oh grow up.
>
>
> And EOT.
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"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> Well you brain is AWOL, need a hole in your fat ass.
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
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-- Nancy Hughes III
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`
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"
-- Nancy Hughes III
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
"N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII" <nanc...@coccyx.net> wrote in message
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><nothing>
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"N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII" <nanc...@coccyx.net> wrote in message
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><nothing>
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Being AWOL is not treason, Bill. God, you're stupid!
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t103.htm
OR, for a wordier article which says the same thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Being AWOL is not treason, Bill. God, you're stupid!
>
> http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t103.htm
>
> OR, for a wordier article which says the same thing:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason
--
You are an idiot.
Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
service and joining the enemy is treason.
Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.
> "The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason
> against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in
> adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is
> punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person
> shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to
> the same overt act, or on confession in open court."
Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.
> NOW get the f*ck out of my America, we don't need any more cowards, like
> your header proves you are!
Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
your comments out of your replies.
P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
Bill. Why is that?
"c" <c...@operamail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
>
> You are an idiot.
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
> not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
> neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
> service and joining the enemy is treason.
>
> Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.
>
> Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.
>
> Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
> your comments out of your replies.
>
> P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
> Bill. Why is that?
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And you're still an idiot.
--
From: billh...@cox.net (via teranews)
> > Reported to: intern...@shaw.ca, ab...@shaw.ca,
interne...@sjrb.ca
> And they are very tired of you.
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Yes, there's a bitch that replies to me, kinda telling me the
problem's with the Canadian Shaw's personnel. But prescience pays off and
long as you violate the groups charter, or just Usenet's common decency,
I'll be there to report you. You being a traitor is a especial incentive.
"§qu@re Wheels" <ouzo-uzi@drunken_aim.net> wrote in message
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>
> And you're still an idiot.
<snip forgery>
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
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"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:33:40 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
--
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:48:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
>
> > No one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous coward,
> >over mine that everyone knows and trusts,
> Oh please, your so full of shit, how do you believe a LIAR.
>
>
> > whose real name and address are
> >for all to see: http://www.billhughes.com/ just like my parents did,
> Oh, your parents had a poor web page like yours.
>
> >taught me to take responsibility for my actions.
> The only part you got right is how to lie!
>
>
> And so far you haven't even
> >had the guts to call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. at:
> >858-974-2020 They're waiting for you.
> Stupidity doesn't run in your family, it gallops.
>
> > In the mean time crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low
life,
> >losers!
> Yep, you got a hole to, to bad your to old to use it.
> > I directed you to a link that would read your fingerprint, as most
all
> >firewall program sellers do. Try any!!!!! loser.
> Anyone running 5 firewall's should know, LIAR.
>
> > I will be forwarding your posts to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
> >alt.binaries.automobile.pictures as you got to be that faggot, SW.
> What's the matter you can't get an IP address? The only reason you
> forward, is because you squirt your paints disrupting other groups.
>
> > Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >mailto:LWHug...@aol.com
> >
> >"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:M2Awi.46979$xx1....@newsfe09.phx...
> >>
> >> Even if that's true, and knowing you it's probably a lie, desertion is
> >> not the same as treason. Fleeing your military service and hiding in a
> >> neutral country is not treason, it's desertion; fleeing your military
> >> service and joining the enemy is treason.
> >>
> >> Thanks for proving me right, buckethead.
> >>
> >> Thanks for proving me right TWICE, chowderbreath.
> >>
> >> Snecking groups in the followup is cowardice, Bill, as is laundering
> >> your comments out of your replies.
> >>
> >> P.S. You never told me what you read in my computer's fingerprint,
> >> Bill. Why is that?
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
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"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:33:19 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> <LWBill...@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Brain Dead Psychopath!
>
> Recipe for a Psychopath:
>
> Emotional & Interpersonal
> Glib & Superficial
> Egocentric & Grandiose
> Lack of Remorse or Guilt
> Lack of Empathy
> Deceitful & Manipulative
> Shallow Emotions
> Social Deviance
> Impulsive
> Poor Behavior Controls
> Need for Excitement
> Lack of Responsibility
> Early Behavior Problems
> Adult Antisocial Behavior
>
> This is your life,
>
> L.W. "Cooyon Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
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Funny thing, then, that I have a higher rating than you in Google
Groups, screwhead.
Me = 4 out of 5 stars, 42 ratings:
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=KEexOwsAAACXSLro2NTh67em2nBYADOh
You currently = 3 out of 5 stars, 23 ratings:
You before you got nuked from Cox, where you posted longer and thus had
a more accurate ranking = 2 out of 5 stars, 68 ratings:
>And so far you haven't even
> had the guts to call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Dept. at:
> 858-974-2020 They're waiting for you. :-)
Why would they be waiting for me to call? What lies have you told them
about me, Bill?
I think you're so sore from getting punted around the newsgroup like a
soccer ball that you're forgetting which poster you had which particular
kook fight with. Are you getting dizzy from all the shoe tips in your
backside, perhaps?
> In the mean time crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low life,
> losers!
> I directed you to a link that would read your fingerprint, as most all
> firewall program sellers do. Try any!!!!! loser.
Yeah, I'm sure you did. But that has nothing to do with what you said,
which was that "we" (meaning you and someone else) could read my
computer fingerprint. You also implies that news servers place cookies
on computers when someone reads them. Did you have any support for that?
> I will be forwarding your posts to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
> alt.binaries.automobile.pictures as you got to be that faggot, SW.
Oh ho ho ho! So now I'm your nemesis in Canada, too? Bill, Bill, is
there any point at which it will dawn on you that those "Kick Me" signs
on your back are put there by YOU?
Why, for the love of God, would you WANT to expand the audience of
people who will make fun of you?
"24BitŽ" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Funny thing, then, that I have a higher rating than you in Google
> Groups, screwhead.
>
> Me = 4 out of 5 stars, 42 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=KEexOwsAAACXSLro2NTh67em2nBYADOh
>
> You currently = 3 out of 5 stars, 23 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=V4Y2KRcAAAAfrwyj43GNwPZ-JLWZcmMFp4d5YZlXC9WXIWQGkz9aQQ
>
> You before you got nuked from Cox, where you posted longer and thus had
> a more accurate ranking = 2 out of 5 stars, 68 ratings:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=6-rq8BIAAAAsBhAo0hYfS-TvRunkKKZSpbyajUBv9M9XLUB2gqkZmQ
>
>
--
"24BitŽ" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>
>
"24BitŽ" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>
"24BitŽ" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> The Statement Still Stands: GOOFY AZZED BABBOON BILL HUGHES!
>
>
> I repeat, no one's going to trust the opinion of a jealous, anonymous
> coward, over mine that everyone knows and trusts
Give us some names, Billie, of people who actually and truly do /know/
you PERSONALLY. People from this froup most especially.
And then give us names of people who actually /do/ trust you.
Any anyone who does, please jump right in with your praise for Mr. Hughes,
Destroyer of Newsgroups.
> And we are laughing at you, you're too stupid to know it.
Who is this infernal 'we' you keep mentioning?
Names, Billie, names.
If you have even one champion, I'd love to hear about it. From /them/.
Sorry, Bildo, but from where most people are sitting, you're all alone.
Here in Usenet and in real life. And ss it should be. You've worked long
and hard to be so disliked by so many, even the majority of your own
family. They'd disown you, but they're waiting for the Will to be read.
Poor goatman.
You can repeat it all you want, but you can't support it. I've shown at
least one source that values my input far more than yours, Chunky.
You've got nothing but a lot of hot air.
> And so far you haven't even had the guts to call my friends at the San
> Diego Sheriffs Dept. at: 858-974-2020 We're waiting for you. :-)
Why would I want to call them? What exactly is it you're expecting?
> And we are laughing at you, you're too stupid to know it.
Who's this "we" you keep referring to, Koko?
"Pink Freud" <psycho...@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
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"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> You can repeat it all you want, but you can't support it. I've shown at
> least one source that values my input far more than yours, Chunky.
> You've got nothing but a lot of hot air.
>
> Why would I want to call them? What exactly is it you're expecting?
>
> Who's this "we" you keep referring to, Koko?
--
> Yup there at least two more faggot cowards that side with you.
Got something against lesbians that get more human pussy in a week than
you've gotten in 20 years?
> Oh, and thanks little jealous pervert, for the ammunition to send
> abuse
> at COX and Teranews block you and other low lifes that use databasix.
> :-) You've given me reason to devote my energies to persuading Real
> News Servers to block everyone from databasix, I know I've cost them
> millions in commercial revenues. :-)
Yeah, I heard they're filing for bankruptcy. Dumbfuck.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls
in dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
COOSN-266-06-01895 - Supreme Holy Overlord of alt.fucknozzles
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
"The more you spam me, the less spam I get" -Edmond Wollmann, once again
focusing with laserlike precision and crystal clarity.
"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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>
> Got something against lesbians that get more human pussy in a week than
> you've gotten in 20 years?
>
>
> Yeah, I heard they're filing for bankruptcy. Dumbfuck.
>
> --
--
Failure to produce evidence that anyone supports and believes you noted,
chicken.
> Oh, and thanks little jealous pervert, for the ammunition to send abuse
> at COX and Teranews block you and other low lifes that use databasix. :-)
> You've given me reason to devote my energies to persuading Real News Servers
> to block everyone from databasix, I know I've cost them millions in
> commercial revenues. :-)
Sure you have, Bill. After all, you're so honest about everything else,
right?
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Failure to produce evidence that anyone supports and believes you noted,
> chicken.
>
> Sure you have, Bill. After all, you're so honest about everything else,
> right?
--
You're really stupid, given that I've already pointed that out. You, as
I keep reminding you, haven't produced a single person who believes you.
>All you can do is lie,
Name one lie I've told, coward.
>as most everything you have said
> contradicts it's self.
Point out one contradiction in anything I've said, coward.
[snip]
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> You're really stupid, given that I've already pointed that out. You, as
> I keep reminding you, haven't produced a single person who believes you.
>
> >All you can do is lie,
>
> Name one lie I've told, coward.
>
> Point out one contradiction in anything I've said, coward.
>
--
Prove it. Name one thing.
>starting with your name
You don't know my name.
>and address are lies.
You don't know my address.
I'm still waiting for you to produce either a lie or a contradiction,
coward.
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Prove it. Name one thing.
>
> You don't know my name.
>
> You don't know my address.
>
> I'm still waiting for you to produce either a lie or a contradiction,
> coward.
--
> I don't have to prove a negative. I stand by my word as a man of
> responsibility, proving it every day of my life via my webpages, phonebooks,
> and court system. And you are not, simply by definition.
TRANSLATOR PLEASE !!!
> I don't have to prove a negative.
You /cannot/ prove a negative proposition, no-one can. But that's science
and you know nothing about that.
> I stand by my word
Which one? You only know a few words that you can use properly.
> as a man of
> responsibility,
Oh, if you were only smart enough to know how funny that is.....!
> proving it every day of my life
You prove only one thing every day. That is by waking up
alive, you prove there is no justice whatsoever in the Universe.
> via my webpages,
Proves nothing except that you have poor taste and no talent at doing
websites.
> phonebooks,
Ah, yes, it that doesn't prove your manliness, I don't know what would!
Right on, Brave Guy!
> and court system.
Meaning managing to stay /out/ of it somehow?
Matters not. Those days are about to change drastically.
> And you are not,
Not what, a court system?
A phone book?
> simply by definition.
Billie, people who can't /use/ a dictionary shouldn't attempt to write one.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Why don't you give this Fantasy Island crap a rest, eh?
"Hey, boss, da Astral Plane, da Astral Plane!"
>
>
> "Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4_Sxi.88619$dI1....@newsfe08.phx...
>>
>> Prove it. Name one thing.
>>
>> You don't know my name.
>>
>> You don't know my address.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for you to produce either a lie or a contradiction,
>> coward.
And feel free to answer to any of the above.
>L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
>> Everything you've written,
>
>Prove it. Name one thing.
>
>>starting with your name
>
>You don't know my name.
The oldest kooksign in the book: "you post with a pseudonym, therefore
you are a coward and shouldn't be allowed to post." It can usually be
translated as thus:
"Whaaaaaaaaaaa! You kicked my @$$ again! Whaaaaaaaaa!"
>
>>and address are lies.
>
>You don't know my address.
>
>I'm still waiting for you to produce either a lie or a contradiction,
>coward.
I am reminded of someone else now.
>
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
>>
>>
>> "Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:FASxi.88612$dI1....@newsfe08.phx...
>>> You're really stupid, given that I've already pointed that out. You, as
>>> I keep reminding you, haven't produced a single person who believes you.
>>>
>>>> All you can do is lie,
>>> Name one lie I've told, coward.
>>>
>>> Point out one contradiction in anything I've said, coward.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Wee Davie Tholen is a grade-school lamer
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
Tom "TommY Crackpotter" Potter
<http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco>
"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"
"I am claiming that you believe ah's family name is "ah",
Deco, and I substantiated that claim."
--David Tholen
"Quite a kook-out, Deco. You've been frothing even more
ever since I demonstrated how you believe that ah's family
name is "ah"."
--David Tholen
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:26:27 -0700, L.W. (Nuthatch) Hughes III wrote:
>
>> I don't have to prove a negative. I stand by my word as a man of
>> responsibility, proving it every day of my life via my webpages,
>> phonebooks, and court system. And you are not, simply by definition.
>
>
> TRANSLATOR PLEASE !!!
I ran it through my Kookspeak Interpreter and all I got was "Goatfucker".
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls
in dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
COOSN-266-06-01895 - Supreme Holy Overlord of alt.fucknozzles
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
"It is truly KOOKY to be so obsessed with someone's success and your
inability to defeat them, that you parade around as them." Edmo,
explaining his use of all his sockpuppets.
"Pink Freud" <psycho...@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
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>
> TRANSLATOR PLEASE !!!
"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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>
> I ran it through my Kookspeak Interpreter and all I got was "Goatfucker".
>
>
> --
--
"x" <x...@x.com> wrote in message news:G1Uxi.70966$rX4.14447@pd7urf2no...
>
>
> You /cannot/ prove a negative proposition, no-one can. But that's science
> and you know nothing about that.
>
>
> Which one? You only know a few words that you can use properly.
>
>
> Oh, if you were only smart enough to know how funny that is.....!
>
>
> You prove only one thing every day. That is by waking up
> alive, you prove there is no justice whatsoever in the Universe.
>
>
> Proves nothing except that you have poor taste and no talent at doing
> websites.
>
>
>
> Ah, yes, it that doesn't prove your manliness, I don't know what would!
> Right on, Brave Guy!
>
>
> Meaning managing to stay /out/ of it somehow?
>
>
> Matters not. Those days are about to change drastically.
>
>
>
> Not what, a court system?
>
>
> A phone book?
>
>
>
> Billie, people who can't /use/ a dictionary shouldn't attempt to write
one.
--
"Art Deco" <er...@caballista.org> wrote in message
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>
> The oldest kooksign in the book: "you post with a pseudonym, therefore
> you are a coward and shouldn't be allowed to post." It can usually be
> translated as thus:
>
> "Whaaaaaaaaaaa! You kicked my @$$ again! Whaaaaaaaaa!"
>
> I am reminded of someone else now.
--
What?
Oh, BTW, when ya gonna tell the froup about how you murdered your parents?
Interesting story. Hannibal would love it.
"x" <x...@x.com> wrote in message news:d52yi.71351$fJ5.30877@pd7urf1no...
>
> What?
>
>
> Oh, BTW, when ya gonna tell the froup about how you murdered your parents?
> Interesting story. Hannibal would love it.
>
>
>
>
>
--
True, and is usually motivated by a desire to go RL, which is also kooksign.
>>> and address are lies.
>> You don't know my address.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for you to produce either a lie or a contradiction,
>> coward.
>
> I am reminded of someone else now.
Bartlo is SO going to be voted out as AUK mascot, and I think Bill is
the current leading candidate for his replacement. The only difference
I can see between the two is a driver's license.
"§qu@re Wheels"
<mostly_harmless@pangalactic_vector_exchange_transponder31_universe.net>
wrote in message news:nbdyi.73517$fJ5.20376@pd7urf1no
>
> And Billie has a fine license indeed.
>
> He posts it quite often elsewhere, but it is now germane to this
> 'session' here in RAMJ+W.
>
> One notable lie on his license is the indication of a 270 pound weight.
> By his own admission he is tipping the Toledos at 320+.
>
> And apologies for the attachment, but it is slightly more interesting
> than another picture of Billie with a bunch of guys. Always guys. Always.
>
>
>
> --
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> That's a keeper, love the art work!
"24Bit®" <24...@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message
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>
> Yeah, and you're not any good with positives either.
>
> You just stand on your word, cause it don't mean shit coming from a
> COWARD.
>
> Proving what, you finally learned how to spell your name?
> Your web design, really SUCKS if you want the truth, I know a 10 year
> old that could burn your wagon.
> Sounds to me like your in court quite often, domestic violence, I'll
> bet.
>
> Simply be Definition, you should be in a rubber room.
"Cassandra Incognito" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Bartlo is SO going to be voted out as AUK mascot, and I think Bill is
> the current leading candidate for his replacement. The only difference
> I can see between the two is a driver's license.
--
> There you go again, the little jealous coward. Who's only way to
> get
> attention is to make a fool of it's self, using foul language, like it
> did back in elementary school yard.
I went to a private school, dumbfuck.
> But, too afraid to use it's name
> and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. Totally
> worthless! Crawl back in your hole, like the rest of you low life
> queer, losers!
> Oh, and thanks for the ammunition to send abuse at COX and
> Teranews
> block you and other low lifes that use databasix. :-) You've given me
> reason to devote my energies to persuading Real News Servers to block
> everyone from databasix, I know I've cost them millions in commercial
> revenues. :-)
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHug...@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
>
>
> "Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
> news:faa0nr$3mo$3...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>
>> I ran it through my Kookspeak Interpreter and all I got was
>> "Goatfucker".
Evasion noted, Goatfucker.
"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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>
> I went to a private school, dumbfuck.
> Evasion noted, Goatfucker.
> L.W. (Bill) Hughes III wrote:
>> I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
>> man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every
>> place I know of?????
>
> You're really stupid, given that I've already pointed that out. You, as
> I keep reminding you, haven't produced a single person who believes you.
>
>>All you can do is lie,
>
> Name one lie I've told, coward.
it's often hard to prove or disprove a lie on usenet. you could be lying
about your name, for instance. nobody could really prove that your last
name is "incognito", but they could just assume that you pulled it out of
your ass, perhaps like anything you might say. either way, when you make
yourself semi-anonymous for no real good reason, nobody besides your "in
the know" net.friends are going to have a reference point to judge your
honesty.
>
>>as most everything you have said
>> contradicts it's self.
>
> Point out one contradiction in anything I've said, coward.
>
> [snip]
well, there was that time you denied being acquainted with cujo around the
same time you were seen saying that you were able to respond to cujo's
databasix posts *specifically* just fine. usually "acquainted" means that
you know someone's name and that's about it. sure seemed like you knew
cujo's name just fine.
i thought it was rather contradictory. how about you?
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He made the assertion that I lied; he must provide his evidence so that
it can be judged. He has not done so, and thus his assertion deserves
all the derison it has drawn. Posting using what is very obviously a
pseudonym is not any form of lying, as you should well know.
>>> as most everything you have said
>>> contradicts it's self.
>> Point out one contradiction in anything I've said, coward.
>>
>> [snip]
>
> well, there was that time you denied being acquainted with cujo around the
> same time you were seen saying that you were able to respond to cujo's
> databasix posts *specifically* just fine. usually "acquainted" means that
> you know someone's name and that's about it. sure seemed like you knew
> cujo's name just fine.
Being familar with someone's Usenet postings doesn't make them your
acquaintance in RL, which perhaps I should have specified; that's my
fault for not making that clear, since I inferred you were positing a
more-than-Usnet familiarity between us.
And what makes you think I know Cujo's name? He's using a pretty
obvious pseudonym. Does people posting with pseudonyms bother you for
some reason?
> i thought it was rather contradictory. how about you?
>
I think Cujo was right when he wrote that you hate to be ignored.