Integra Coupe vs. Sedan
Leon Droby
I'm in the market for a new car and I think I've settled on a 1998
Integra. My question is about the "real world" differences between
the coupe and sedan.
While I like the looks of the coupe and I do realize that it's lighter
than the sedan, I have music equipment and pets to move around. The
four door would be much more convienent.
How much does the sedan fall short (if at all) of the coupe's
acceleration and handling?
Also, are there any advantages in waiting for the 1999's?
Thanks in advance,
Leon Droby
Phil G
I pondered the same dilemma about a year ago. Since I have 2 teen-age
kids to shuttle around I went with the sedan. It just made more sense
for my needs. I do like the coupe, but find the sedan more in line with
my my "DNA", if you know what I mean.
As far as performance is concerned, unless you're comparing against the
VTEC, you'll find that the sedan can hold its own. I am very happy
with my Integra. If you need cargo space, though, the coupe with the
rear seat folded down can offer quite a bit of room.
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Leon Droby <ldr...@ma.ultranet.com> wrote in article
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CJ
I own a 97 GS-R 4-door, and I test drove the coupe before I bought my
sedan. The rear seat in the sedan is actually usable (in the coupe, I
could not sit without having the glass bend my neck forward). Also, I
love being able to lock my trunk, as well as carry cargo and passengers
at the same time. Acceleration and performance wise, there is
practically no difference between the 2 body styles (check a Car and
Driver review in 1997). The only drawback of the sedan, it seems, is
that some people (not me, of course) are not crazy about the styling.
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John Baker
CJ wrote:
>
> I own a 97 GS-R 4-door, and I test drove the coupe before I bought my
> sedan.
> Acceleration and performance wise, there is
> practically no difference between the 2 body styles (check a Car and
> Driver review in 1997). The only drawback of the sedan, it seems, is
> that some people (not me, of course) are not crazy about the styling.
SCC even claimed that the sedan handles slightly better than
the coupe, since it has better weight distribution. I like
the "sleeper" aspect of the sedan too. But somehow I ended
up with a *bright* red coupe. :-)
john baker
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In article <358eb567...@news.ma.ultranet.com>,
ldr...@ma.ultranet.com (Leon Droby) wrote:
>
> I'm in the market for a new car and I think I've settled on a 1998
> Integra. My question is about the "real world" differences between
> the coupe and sedan.
>
> While I like the looks of the coupe and I do realize that it's lighter
> than the sedan, I have music equipment and pets to move around. The
> four door would be much more convienent.
>
> How much does the sedan fall short (if at all) of the coupe's
> acceleration and handling?
>
> Also, are there any advantages in waiting for the 1999's?
I test drove both the 2 and 4 dr GS-R. The 2 door has way less room in the
back. Adult men will hate the back seat. Their heads will hit the glass. I
could not tell in test drive any difference. The weight diff is like 100 lbs
no?
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Timothy J. Lee
ldr...@ma.ultranet.com (Leon Droby) writes:
|I'm in the market for a new car and I think I've settled on a 1998
|Integra. My question is about the "real world" differences between
|the coupe and sedan.
Check your insurance company to see if there is a price difference
in insurance between the different versions.
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Andrew R. Aranda
Well Leon, you said yourself you have equipment and pets to move around, but I
don't understand the logic behind you saying that the sedan would be more
convenient. As Phil wrote, the coupe with the rear seats folded down provides a
lot of room. It's the next best thing to renting a Uhaul. I carry my mountain
bike back there with no problem. I doubt you could do that in the sedan. I
also carry my *2* dogs back there. Not talking chihuahua's either (No quiero
Taco Smell). One is a malamute and the other is a border collie. And
naturally, I think it looks better. I'm pushing 30 and the last thing I want is
2 good looking girls driving up next to me and saying, "Excuse me sir? Do you
know how to get to the freeway?"
Andrew
(Incurable commercial fiend)
Phil G wrote:
>
> I pondered the same dilemma about a year ago. Since I have 2 teen-age
> kids to shuttle around I went with the sedan. It just made more sense
> for my needs. I do like the coupe, but find the sedan more in line with
> my my "DNA", if you know what I mean.
> As far as performance is concerned, unless you're comparing against the
> VTEC, you'll find that the sedan can hold its own. I am very happy
> with my Integra. If you need cargo space, though, the coupe with the
> rear seat folded down can offer quite a bit of room.
>
> Leon Droby <ldr...@ma.ultranet.com> wrote in article
> <358eb567...@news.ma.ultranet.com>...
> >
David Masten
>Integra. My question is about the "real world" differences between
>the coupe and sedan.
Others have mentioned some of the following. And BTW, I opted for a coupe as
I really wanted the San Marino Red :-) Also, this is based on a couple of
years back. Perhaps the '98's have some *minor* changes (I did drive a '98
loaner coupe).
The 4d has a 1.9" longer wheelbase and the back glass doesn't angle down as
"sportily". This translates into a significantly more liveable back seat in
both head and leg room.
Conversely, the coupes short wheelbase *should* translate into more lively
handling however with a reportedly more jouncy ride on harsh bumps. I can
attest to the latter in that I find it surprisingly less composed on bumpy
turns than my '84 Prelude! In reality, unless you race, I think that you'll
find the two very similar in driving (both normal and spirited).
When I test drove both, I recall one having superior visibility to the rear.
Alas, I can't remember which! Sit in both and decide for yourself.
Many insurance companies discount 4 doors. Mine (State Farm) does.
The coupe has hatchback versatility. It's rear seat folddown is split whereas
the 4d has a single piece folddown.
The coupe's access to the rear seats is annoying in that the seats don't have
a memory. That is, they don't return to the original recline or travel when
they are moved. If you have constant rear seat passengers (or want to put
bulky objects in the rear seat), this becomes tiresome.
I think the coupe has significant noise from the rear due to its hatchback
design.
The coupe has the rear wiper, which isn't a neccesity.
Color choices are different.
Bottom line, I guess you can tell my next car might be a 4-door :-)
I do appreciate the hatchback's capability to swallow bikes and other large
objects. I do prefer the coupe's looks. I love the red color. But if you
aren't put off by the less sporty *image* (reality is another thing), or an
extra 95 lbs, or the few extra $, or colors, I'd suggest the 4-door.
Timothy J. Lee
mas...@frontiernet.net (David Masten) writes:
|Bottom line, I guess you can tell my next car might be a 4-door :-)
|I do appreciate the hatchback's capability to swallow bikes and other large
|objects.
Why did Honda change the four door from a hatchback (1986-1989) to a
sedan (1990-present)? Seems like that change just reduced the four
door version's practicality and made it less visually distinctive
(how many other four door sedans are there, versus how many other
four door hatchbacks are there?).
Jason Kwon
Timothy J. Lee (tim...@netcom.com.DELETE-THIS.BIT) wrote:
: Why did Honda change the four door from a hatchback (1986-1989) to a
: sedan (1990-present)?
Regardless of their practicality, in the US, it appears that
consumers don't want hatchbacks. Maybe hatchbacks seem more
"down-market" than cars with conventional trunks. Compared with
ten years ago, there are a lot fewer hatchback models out there
for all manufacturers. Probably Honda thought they could sell
more 4-door sedans than 4-door hatchbacks.
Chris Franks
Canada (as a 5-door). I started to buy one in Montreal and bring it
down but the paperwork and mechanical modifications were just
unbelievable so I forgot about it. When the 2-door was designed in
Marysville in 1988 they stopped making any Accord hatchbacks.
> Jason
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In article <35914E...@nospam.sc.hp.com>, Chris Franks
<cfr...@nospam.sc.hp.com> wrote:
> Jason Kwon wrote:
> >
> > Timothy J. Lee (tim...@netcom.com.DELETE-THIS.BIT) wrote:
> >
> > : Why did Honda change the four door from a hatchback (1986-1989) to a
> > : sedan (1990-present)?
> >
> > Regardless of their practicality, in the US, it appears that
> > consumers don't want hatchbacks. Maybe hatchbacks seem more
> > "down-market" than cars with conventional trunks. Compared with
> > ten years ago, there are a lot fewer hatchback models out there
> > for all manufacturers. Probably Honda thought they could sell
> > more 4-door sedans than 4-door hatchbacks.
> Honda never sold a 4-door hatchback in the U.S.A. They sold it in
> Canada (as a 5-door). I started to buy one in Montreal and bring it
> down but the paperwork and mechanical modifications were just
> unbelievable so I forgot about it. When the 2-door was designed in
> Marysville in 1988 they stopped making any Accord hatchbacks.
Oh yes they did. The 86-89 first generation Integra 4-doors were all
hatchbacks. The Accord 2-door coupe, by the way, was sold alongside the
hatchback until the 1990 redesign.
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Chris Franks
CrazyOne - Greg Pacek wrote:
> Oh yes they did. The 86-89 first generation Integra 4-doors were all
> hatchbacks. The Accord 2-door coupe, by the way, was sold alongside the
> hatchback until the 1990 redesign.
That's what I said. They never made any 4-door Accord hatchbacks,
and they stopped making 2-door hatchbacks when they brought out the
2-door sedan. The Integra is a Civic with lockwashers, not an Accord.
Steve Sheldon
r...@flotus.com (Roy Altman) writes:
>In article <359273...@nospam.sc.hp.com>, Chris Franks
><cfr...@nospam.sc.hp.com> wrote:
> > They never made any 4-door Accord hatchbacks,
>More's the pity. Mazda did, with the 626 Touring, and the idea is fantastic.
>So much so that it's still popular in Europe. Sometimes, Europeans do have
>good ideas.
Hmm the only 4 door hatchback I'm aware of here in the states is the Saab.
Dustin Harper
Or the Geo Metro (Suzuki Swift); crappy cars though. Made in Canada.
Timothy J. Lee
Chris Franks <cfr...@nospam.sc.hp.com> writes:
|Jason Kwon wrote:
|>
|> Timothy J. Lee (tim...@netcom.com.DELETE-THIS.BIT) wrote:
|>
|> : Why did Honda change the four door from a hatchback (1986-1989) to a
|> : sedan (1990-present)?
|>
|> more 4-door sedans than 4-door hatchbacks.
|
| Honda never sold a 4-door hatchback in the U.S.A.
The 1986-1989 4 door Acura Integra was a hatchback. Note that the
Integra was the original subject of this thread.
Bentley
VW Golf.
Dustin Harper <clha...@eoni.com> said something like:
: Or the Geo Metro (Suzuki Swift); crappy cars though. Made in Canada.
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Timothy J. Lee
she...@visi.com (Steve Sheldon) writes:
| Hmm the only 4 door hatchback I'm aware of here in the states is the Saab.
Saab and VW Golf. I'm not sure if the Subaru Impreza 4 door with
the hatch in the back is called a wagon or a hatchback. Wagons aren't
that common either...
Risto Lankinen
Bentley <ben...@access4.digex.net> wrote in article
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> VW Golf.
>
> Dustin Harper <clha...@eoni.com> said something like:
> : Or the Geo Metro (Suzuki Swift); crappy cars though. Made in Canada.
Ford Aspire?
Timothy J. Lee
r...@flotus.com (Roy Altman) writes:
|In article <timleeEv...@netcom.com>,
|see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome wrote:
|
| > | Honda never sold a 4-door hatchback in the U.S.A.
| >
| > The 1986-1989 4 door Acura Integra was a hatchback. Note that the
| > Integra was the original subject of this thread.
|
|but Honda didn't.
And who makes Acuras...?
mike
is there an actual "acura" plant in japan? just curious, since i never
thought bout it til now...
Martin van Duijn
Probably not, because what you Americans (and Canadians, sorry...) see
driving around wearing an Acura badge, are just plain and simple called
Honda's over here in Europe: Honda Integra, Honda Legend and Honda NSX.
Martin van Duijn
Sorry to disappoint you, but Honda does NOT sell a 5-door Accord in
Europe, never has and neither will the next generation Euro-Accords
offer a 5-door version. I admit that the Accord looks like it has a
hatchback, but it really is just a trunk.
Roy Altman wrote:
> Which is interesting, especially as Honda does a 5 door Accord in Europe.
R...@ohsu.edu
In article <3597F2...@wxs.nl> Martin van Duijn <seas...@wxs.nl> writes:
>From: Martin van Duijn <seas...@wxs.nl>
>Subject: Re: Hatchbacks [was Re: Integra Coupe vs. Sedan]
>Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 22:00:41 +0200
>Roy Altman wrote:
The US made station wagon 94-97 was sold in Scandinavia at least as the
Aerodeck.
vbda...@gmail.com
> I'm in the market for a new car and I think I've settled on a 1998
> Integra. My question is about the "real world" differences between
> the coupe and sedan.
>
> than the sedan, I have music equipment and pets to move around. The
> four door would be much more convienent.
>
> acceleration and handling?
>
> Also, are there any advantages in waiting for the 1999's?
>
> Leon Droby
I suggest check this out