Acura Legend Type R??
94GT
Can anyone verify or denounce the existence of the Acura Legend Type R? This
little boy had "Acura Type R" stickers plastered all over the car... I'd never
heard of this one. Yes, we did race (he incited it) and the outcome was as you
will predict for most every "V8 versus inline 4" race. I just wondered if
there even IS such a thing as a Legend Type R.
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Dave Feltenberger
think they exist in the US though..
Dave
94GT <jma...@unf.edu> wrote in message
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Hondamaniac
saw was given a Legend by his parents and is trying to make it something it is not.
We'll see how close the 4 cyl. S2000 comes to a V8.
94GT wrote:
> Every day I get a little closer to being able to say, "I've seen it all."
>
> Can anyone verify or denounce the existence of the Acura Legend Type R? This
> little boy had "Acura Type R" stickers plastered all over the car... I'd never
> heard of this one. Yes, we did race (he incited it) and the outcome was as you
> will predict for most every "V8 versus inline 4" race. I just wondered if
> there even IS such a thing as a Legend Type R.
>
> --
> Pony on!
> -Jonathan
> 1994 5.0 Mustang Convertible, Triple Black
> www.unf.edu/~jmaton/mustang
> jma...@unf.edu
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David Malinovsky
Legends have V6s
I hope you crushed his Honda powered dreams.
Cybernetic Samurai
I think it was a 95 or 96. Under the hood it had a HONDA VTEC II engine and
a STICK!! Now I've never seen a LEGEND with a stick (I'm not an expert) but
I swear I have never seen this before in my life. The salesman was saying
that it would generate 220 HP .... He was going to part with it for 26 grand
but that is another story.
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slacker808
speed manual tranny and put out around 220 HP.
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slacker808
Japan and in other parts of the world.
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rich
Percy Hsieh
models after the Legend model went kaput. As of now, my knowledge tells me
there's in existence only the Civic Type R (Japan only), the Integra Type R,
and a new Accord Type R (Japan and Europe only)....but who cares? For those
prices they can't even come close to a Mustang GT....
Percy
99 Silver GT
Tom Joad
>
> Can anyone verify or denounce the existence of the Acura Legend Type R?
This
> little boy had "Acura Type R" stickers plastered all over the car... I'd
never
> heard of this one. Yes, we did race (he incited it) and the outcome was
as you
> will predict for most every "V8 versus inline 4" race. I just wondered if
Never existed. The first-gen Legends were only ~160bhp - speedy, but not
fast. The second-gen had 220bhp (V6), but weighed in over 4000 pounds - good
cruiser, but it was a land barge.
JamesZX7
A "GS" model was made in '94, 95, 96; with a 6 speed, and 230hp, 206lb/ft
torgue.
More refined than a stang, holds its value longer, and won't break down as
soon.
Gerald Wang
slacker808 <slack...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc> wrote:
>not sure about the sedans, but the 93 - 95 Legend coupes came with a 6
>speed manual tranny and put out around 220 HP.
Are these hard to find nowadays? And would you happen to know how much
they would go for?
Thanks,
Gerald
94GT
tcs...@mindspring.com@mindspring.com says...
Hmm... I've seen a Civic around here all plastered up as a Civic Type R as
well... can anyone in the Honda group verify that the Civic Type R is only
available in Japan?
Also to the Honda folks - what exactly makes it a Civic Type R? For example,
in the Cobra Type R (talking 1995 here), there is a larger engine, stronger
transmission, replaced exhaust, no back seat, and just about all the suspension
is replaced with better stuff. What do they do to a Civic to yield a Type R?
I'm just curious.
>Percy
>99 Silver GT
slacker808
you might have problems finding one with a manual tranny. a majority of
coupes i see on the road are automatic.
a 95 Legend coupe with 6 speed runs about $24K. if you get an older
model or one of the lower trim levels, it should be a bit cheaper.
either way, it's not too bad. i'm kinda tempted to get one. but it's
just a matter of finding the one i want. :-P
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rich
slacker808
>
> Hmm... I've seen a Civic around here all plastered up as a Civic Type R as
> well... can anyone in the Honda group verify that the Civic Type R is only
> available in Japan?
yes. it's only available in Japan. and i think some Europeans have
imported a few into their countries.
> Also to the Honda folks - what exactly makes it a Civic Type R? For example,
> in the Cobra Type R (talking 1995 here), there is a larger engine, stronger
> transmission, replaced exhaust, no back seat, and just about all the suspension
> is replaced with better stuff. What do they do to a Civic to yield a Type R?
> I'm just curious.
185 HP engine, red Recaro racing seats, Momo steering wheel, limited
slip differential (i think), special Type-R exterior (body kit, spoiler,
wheels, red Honda emblems, Type-R logo), upgraded suspension, reduced
weight, and a few of other things. in essence, a real pocket rocket.
but keep in mind that some Civic owners have done engine swaps on their
cars. so it is possible to have a "Civic Type-R" in the states.
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rich
Bob
<Cyberneti...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Well here is a story. I saw a Legend in the ACURA sales lot of a dealership
> I think it was a 95 or 96. Under the hood it had a HONDA VTEC II engine and
> a STICK!! Now I've never seen a LEGEND with a stick (I'm not an expert) but
> I swear I have never seen this before in my life. The salesman was saying
> that it would generate 220 HP .... He was going to part with it for 26 grand
> but that is another story.
>
Bah. They've had the 5spd as an option since 1986. Some of the second gen
Legends had a 230hp V6 with a 6spd, also. GS was the trim level name. They're
expensive as hell also. No VTEC though, so you're full of shit. Thanks for
playing.
-fob
~Z
....
>
>Hmm... I've seen a Civic around here all plastered up as a Civic Type R as
>well... can anyone in the Honda group verify that the Civic Type R is only
>available in Japan?
yes JDM market, but some people bring the CTR (civic type r) engine and
stuff it into civics, same goes for ITR engines
>Also to the Honda folks - what exactly makes it a Civic Type R? For
example,
>in the Cobra Type R (talking 1995 here), there is a larger engine, stronger
>transmission, replaced exhaust, no back seat, and just about all the
suspension
>is replaced with better stuff. What do they do to a Civic to yield a Type
R?
>I'm just curious.
firmers shocks and springs lower ~15 mm then stock
big Rear sway bar
structual reinforments
every engine part is gone over to reduce weight
higher cp
different cams
bigger tires/ wheels
huge brakes 11.1"
hand polished intake/exhaust (something can't remember)
various comsmetic interior/exterior upgrades
no ac/moonroof
freer flowing exhaust
body weight savings
and oh yeah 10K on the tach :)
Gregory P Nickliss
'95 6-speed Legend GS. I explicitly remember a number of articles on this
car when it was released since it was my favorite car for a while, and
still is. also, i have a brochure from the autoshow back in this era and
i will find it tonight, labeling the VTEC II as the engine. the HP was
230. torque was near 215. sorry bud, but you are absolutely wrong.
thank YOU for playing.
greg
94GT
says...
>>Hmm... I've seen a Civic around here all plastered up as a Civic Type R as
>>well... can anyone in the Honda group verify that the Civic Type R is only
>>available in Japan?
>yes JDM market, but some people bring the CTR (civic type r) engine and
>stuff it into civics, same goes for ITR engines
Swap the engine without upgrading anything else? Hmm...
[changes in the Civic Type R]
>firmers shocks and springs lower ~15 mm then stock
>big Rear sway bar
>structual reinforments
>every engine part is gone over to reduce weight
>higher cp
cp?
>different cams
>bigger tires/ wheels
>huge brakes 11.1"
"Huge" is a relative word in this case. I guess 11.1" brakes ARE huge with 13"
wheels. :)
>hand polished intake/exhaust (something can't remember)
>various comsmetic interior/exterior upgrades
>no ac/moonroof
>freer flowing exhaust
>body weight savings
>and oh yeah 10K on the tach :)
Any information on quarter mile times?
Thanks for the information.
Rude
Accord Coupe came out. They still turn heads today. A 6-speed sedan does
exist too.... but it is VERY rare.
Right around 25 grand, in excellent condition, is what they usually go
for now.
Rude
'98 Accord EX-L - Black Currant - 5spd
Gerald Wang wrote in message <92649534...@watserv5.uwaterloo.ca>...
Cybernetic Samurai
Bob <b...@bobnet.org> wrote in message
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> In article <#RB#X5Cn#GA.303@cpmsnbbsa05>, "Cybernetic Samurai"
> <Cyberneti...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Well here is a story. I saw a Legend in the ACURA sales lot of a
dealership
> > I think it was a 95 or 96. Under the hood it had a HONDA VTEC II engine
and
> > a STICK!! Now I've never seen a LEGEND with a stick (I'm not an expert)
but
> > I swear I have never seen this before in my life. The salesman was
saying
> > that it would generate 220 HP .... He was going to part with it for 26
grand
> > but that is another story.
> >
>
> Bah. They've had the 5spd as an option since 1986. Some of the second gen
> Legends had a 230hp V6 with a 6spd, also. GS was the trim level name.
They're
> expensive as hell also. No VTEC though, so you're full of shit. Thanks for
> playing.
>
> -fob
>
EASY there pardner, I was just wondering whether or not I was hallucinating.
BIGED
100...@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu>,
Gregory P Nickliss <pau...@pitt.edu> wrote:
> NO! you are wrong. it was indeed a VTEC II engine under the hood of
the
> '95 6-speed Legend GS. I explicitly remember a number of articles on
this
> car when it was released since it was my favorite car for a while, and
> still is. also, i have a brochure from the autoshow back in this era
and
> i will find it tonight, labeling the VTEC II as the engine. the HP
was
> 230. torque was near 215. sorry bud, but you are absolutely wrong.
> thank YOU for playing.
>
WRONG!!!
The 230 hp engine was available in 94 and 95. The coupe LS, Sedan GS
were both available with six speed trannys. It did not say VTEC II it
said Type II. It was a 90 degree V6, nothing like the
60 degree V6 in the new accord.
> greg
>
> On 12 May 1999, Bob wrote:
>
> > In article <#RB#X5Cn#GA.303@cpmsnbbsa05>, "Cybernetic Samurai"
> > <Cyberneti...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well here is a story. I saw a Legend in the ACURA sales lot of a
dealership
> > > I think it was a 95 or 96. Under the hood it had a HONDA VTEC II
engine and
> > > a STICK!! Now I've never seen a LEGEND with a stick (I'm not an
expert) but
> > > I swear I have never seen this before in my life. The salesman
was saying
> > > that it would generate 220 HP .... He was going to part with it
for 26 grand
> > > but that is another story.
> > >
> >
> > Bah. They've had the 5spd as an option since 1986. Some of the
second gen
> > Legends had a 230hp V6 with a 6spd, also. GS was the trim level
name. They're
> > expensive as hell also. No VTEC though, so you're full of shit.
Thanks for
> > playing.
> >
> > -fob
> >
> >
> >
>
>
BIGED
Former 94 Legend GS owner
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Gerald Wang
slacker808 <slack...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc> wrote:
>well, you shouldn't have problems finding a Legend coupe for sale. but
>you might have problems finding one with a manual tranny. a majority of
>coupes i see on the road are automatic.
>
>a 95 Legend coupe with 6 speed runs about $24K. if you get an older
>model or one of the lower trim levels, it should be a bit cheaper.
>either way, it's not too bad. i'm kinda tempted to get one. but it's
>just a matter of finding the one i want. :-P
Cool, thanks for the info. Yeah I'd be interested in one with the
6-speed manual. Looks like I'll have to save up a bit though. It's a
good thing that these cars last forever. :)
Regards,
Gerald
~Z
94GT wrote in message <7hcta0$ah2$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>In article <zml_2.6854$r_1.3...@newscontent-02.sprint.ca>,
dzi...@sprint.ca
>says...
>>>Hmm... I've seen a Civic around here all plastered up as a Civic Type R
as
>>>well... can anyone in the Honda group verify that the Civic Type R is
only
>>>available in Japan?
>
>>yes JDM market, but some people bring the CTR (civic type r) engine and
>>stuff it into civics, same goes for ITR engines
>
>Swap the engine without upgrading anything else? Hmm...
>[changes in the Civic Type R]
>>firmers shocks and springs lower ~15 mm then stock
>>big Rear sway bar
>>structual reinforments
>>every engine part is gone over to reduce weight
>>higher cp
>
>cp?
sorry brain wasn't fully warmed up, cr
>
>>different cams
>>bigger tires/ wheels
>>huge brakes 11.1"
>
>"Huge" is a relative word in this case. I guess 11.1" brakes ARE huge with
13"
>wheels. :)
>
>>hand polished intake/exhaust (something can't remember)
>>various comsmetic interior/exterior upgrades
>>no ac/moonroof
>>freer flowing exhaust
>>body weight savings
>>and oh yeah 10K on the tach :)
>
>Any information on quarter mile times?
i've seen integras type r run 14.75's bone stock, the civic weighs less has
10 hp less so times should be similar
see...@my-dejanews.com
"Rude" <rude@remove_this_nospam.netnitco.net> wrote:
> Hard to find with the 6-speed... yes.... I wanted one bad until
the 98
> Accord Coupe came out. They still turn heads today. A 6-speed sedan
does
> exist too.... but it is VERY rare.
> Right around 25 grand, in excellent condition, is what they
usually go
> for now.
>
> Rude
> '98 Accord EX-L - Black Currant - 5spd
>
what would have been really really nice of honda was to up the hp on
the prelude so that then they could put a stick on the v6 accord's!
maybe in there next remake they'll give the accord a 5 spd
> Gerald Wang wrote in message
<92649534...@watserv5.uwaterloo.ca>...
> >In article <37390DD2...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc>,
> >slacker808 <slack...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc> wrote:
> >>not sure about the sedans, but the 93 - 95 Legend coupes came with
a 6
> >>speed manual tranny and put out around 220 HP.
> >
> >Are these hard to find nowadays? And would you happen to know how
much
> >they would go for?
>
>
Cameron Huang
: NO! you are wrong. it was indeed a VTEC II engine under the hood of the
: '95 6-speed Legend GS. I explicitly remember a number of articles on this
: car when it was released since it was my favorite car for a while, and
: still is. also, i have a brochure from the autoshow back in this era and
: i will find it tonight, labeling the VTEC II as the engine. the HP was
: 230. torque was near 215. sorry bud, but you are absolutely wrong.
: thank YOU for playing.
Well, no. It's a Type II, it's got an iron block version of the C32 found
in the NSX, and SOHC heads, with 2-stage intake runners (which is the kick
you get at 4500 rpms). It's good for 230bhp and 206lb-ft, less peak torque
than the regular C32 (200bhp).
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Cameron Huang
intake runners, 230bhp. It's quick, but it's a boat with stock suspension.
In rec.autos.makers.honda Cybernetic Samurai <Cyberneti...@email.msn.com> wrote:
: Well here is a story. I saw a Legend in the ACURA sales lot of a dealership
: I think it was a 95 or 96. Under the hood it had a HONDA VTEC II engine and
: a STICK!! Now I've never seen a LEGEND with a stick (I'm not an expert) but
: I swear I have never seen this before in my life. The salesman was saying
: that it would generate 220 HP .... He was going to part with it for 26 grand
: but that is another story.
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: Are these hard to find nowadays? And would you happen to know how much
: they would go for?
I just sold my '94 Coupe 6-speed for 14K. They'll usually fetch 16-18K,
and 6-speed coupes are almost impossible to find. Mine was beat on a lot,
and had a lot of aftermarket work. Nice car though - it's an excellent
high-speed cruiser.
Gerald Wang
Cameron Huang <ba...@panix.com> wrote:
>I just sold my '94 Coupe 6-speed for 14K. They'll usually fetch 16-18K,
>and 6-speed coupes are almost impossible to find. Mine was beat on a lot,
>and had a lot of aftermarket work. Nice car though - it's an excellent
>high-speed cruiser.
Dang, I'll have to start looking.. would you happen to have any
perforamnce figures for this car? Also, did I read your sig right in
that you replaced it with an M5?
Thanks,
Gerald
Cameron Huang
: Dang, I'll have to start looking.. would you happen to have any
: perforamnce figures for this car? Also, did I read your sig right in
: that you replaced it with an M5?
Well, mine (timed with a stop watch a few times, back and forth) runs
about 6.5-7.0 seconds 0-60mph. This is with 215/45/17 and Koni+Eibach
suspension, which helped out my launches immeasurably. If you do decide to
get one, I'd really recommend changing the suspension and brakes (the
front rotors will warp *badly* after about 20K miles of decently hard
use). I went with Koni shocks and Eibach pro-kits, and RM carbon/kevlar
pads + x-drilled rotors (about $850 for the brakes all around, $1000 for
the suspension).
I can't fault it performance-wise. It's quick, the shifter is awesome,
decent throttle response, but a mushy clutch (although I didn't even think
the clutch an issue until I felt the Bimmer's clutch). The steering is way
overboosted, which is actually kinda nice under most circumstances, for
this car. It really comes into its own above ~110mph... it just kinda sets
into the road, and everything tightens up. The 6th gear is purely for
economy, which is necessary, because this car sucks gas like crazy.
Nah I didn't replace it with an M5 (although I have my fingers crossed to
win one int he BMWCCA raffle), but rather an M Coupe. The number in my sig
switches between 5 and 52 (M52 being the internal BMW designation for the
engine in the M Coupe).
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