2001 Accord oil drain plug gasket Answer!

[Wade Punch]

I talked to the local Honda dealer today, and they confirmed,
the raised edge at the oil pan drain hole, IS a part of the pan, and
NOT a stuck on gasket.
So this is a "permanent gasket". And no, they do not put another
gasket on the plug. He did say they put a little dab of "Honda Bond"
sealant on the plug. I checked with the parts dept. and they sell the
"little" tube for $12. Checking with my usual parts source, the West
Broad Honda dealer in Richmond, they say the 3 oz. tube lists for
$12.99 and they will sell it for $10.39.
Does anybody know, is there a cheaper alternative to Honda Bond?
FWIW, my friend who has 100,000 miles on his '92 Camry with the same
design "permanent" gasket on his oil pan, says he has experienced no
leaks.
Wade

[Trevor]

That dealer is incorrect. The 2001 Accords do take the drain plug washer.
Also if any of the Honda Bond got into the oil it would not be good for the
engine.

See the picture at:
http://www.HandA-Accessories.com/accord/pan.gif
item #34
they also show the same item for the coupe and the 2002 models.

Wade Punch <pun...@home.com> wrote in message
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[Oliver]

Wade,
Thanks for the update. As far as the Honda Bond, I wouldn't bother using
it. I would just buy a regular oil drain bolt washer. If you want to go
the Honda Bond route, you can just buy some regular silicon sealant. When I
had to open up my valve cover on my Integra, I used silicon sealant instead
of Honda Bond. So far, so good.

I'll let you know if I have any leaks after 3000 miles with my oil drain
bolt washer.

Oliver

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[Oliver]

Trevor,
How in the world were you able to find that gif file? When I went to their
website, I could not find any links that showed the layout of the parts like
a service manual.

Thanks,
Oliver

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[Wade Punch]

Trevor,
Thanks for the gif image. (Oliver, I clicked on the link, and there was the
diagram)
Of course it shows the washer. But I wonder, if you use the standard Honda
aluminum washer which is relatively thick, coupled with the extra ridge of the
oil pan, that leaves less threads on the drain plug to grab onto the oil pan.
Could it be? that the diagram was made BEFORE they decided to go with a new
design oil pan (with a raised edge that requires no washer)? Unfortunately the
diagram does not show the side with the actual drain hole.
Remember, there are at least two of us, Oliver and myself, who removed the
drain plug, and found NO washer.
I would like to hear from others who have a 2001 or 2002 Accord 4 cylinder, and
find out what experience they have had.
We have 4 Honda dealers in the general Nashville area, I will try to contact
the other 3 dealers and see what they say.
Wade

[Unknown]

Trevor is correct - there IS a drain washer on ALL Honda oil drain
plugs - if it was missing then it was a defect from the factory - I've
worked as a Honda service advisor and in parts for about 15 yrs and
have never seen a plug with no washer.

BTW --ATTN Trevor-- the Honda corporate Law-Yers will be contacting
you about using a portion of our (copyright) parts catalog without
express written permission ...... snicker.......

[George Macdonald]

Hmmm, this is odd. We had a '93 Camry 4 cyl until we traded it for a 2K
Accord and although the Camry does have that raised washer on the pan it's
really just a reinforced area for screwing in and seating the plug. The car
came fitted with a fiber washer as well when new and I replaced it a couple
of times over its lifetime - the Toyota dealer parts depts. have them. If
Honda really has changed the design and added that permanent washer I'd
head down to the hardware store and pick up a few fiber washers for 20c
each.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

[Wade Punch]

George Macdonald wrote:

Thanks, George, for your input here. I did not get that specific with my friend,
re: the fiber washer, but I will ask him. I also plan to call the other 3 Honda
dealers in my area, and see what they say. I will report back what I find out.
Wade

[Dave Jordahl]

Well I changed the oil in my 2001 Accord today. In a previous post I
mentioned the washer came unstuck after I tried to rethread the plug into
the pan. I took pictures of the pan plug and aluminum washer. They are at:
http://home.att.net/~jordah/accordplug.jpg.

Regards,
Dave J.

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[Wade Punch]

I mentioned how one dealer had said that in fact, the oil pan design was
different now with the raised edge. Well, I called the other 4 Honda dealers in
the Nashville area and the Silko dealership in Mass., and was told by the
service guys, after they conferred with a mechanic, that the washer must be
stuck to the pan. I meant to call the one dealer who said it was a design
change, but didn't get a chance to do it. I want to ask again and see if they
come up with the same story.
All I know is, that gasket is on there pretty damn tight.
Wade