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sbr...@enid.com

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Jul 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/30/97
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I bought a 1997 white 4 wheel drive Honda Passport in February. It now
has 12,000 miles. I've decided I want to go back to a car and was
wondering how much I could get for my Passport.Please e mail me at
sbr...@enid.com.I'm looking at a Nissan Maxima.

S. Breece

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Darren Byrd

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Jul 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/31/97
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Here's a question I have always wanted to ask of Honda Passport owners, why
didn't you buy a Isuzu Rodeo??? Same truck, longer warranty, lower price. I
am just curious, not meaning to bash anyone.


Darren Byrd
1997 Saturn SC2
15,000 miles and going strong

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NewtFood97

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Aug 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/1/97
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Someone who buys an overpriced and glorified GM product is criticizing
someone!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Maybe he likes his Honda dealer better and likes the H on the hood. Or
maybe he got a better deal on it. Who cares why he bought it. Here's a
better question: why do people pay $19,825(full option) for a low
powered (124hp), noisy, unrefined, and crappy car like Saturn when you can
get an Acura Integra for less?

KerrieannP

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Aug 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/1/97
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>From: z_by...@titan.sfasu.edu (Darren Byrd)
>Date: 31 Jul 1997 01:42:22 GMT
>Message-id: <5roqhu$4...@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net>

>
>Here's a question I have always wanted to ask of Honda Passport owners,
why
>didn't you buy a Isuzu Rodeo??? Same truck, longer warranty, lower price.
I
>am just curious, not meaning to bash anyone.
>
>
>Darren Byrd
>1997 Saturn SC2
>15,000 miles and going strong
>

I bought a Passport because I got a better deal on it, and as someone else
replied I wanted the H on my hood. Although I will admit the color choice
on the Izuzus appears to be better. Honda gave me the choice of Red,
Grey, Grey or White in the LX, for 3K more I could get Hunter Green or
Black, but is a different paint job and ABS on all 4wheels (instead of 2)
worth it? I didn't think so, although I do realize there are others who
would disagree.

To Newfood97 - I didn't think z_byrrddj was trying to bash anyone, he was
after all just asking a question. Although I do have to admit if the
price was the same I'd go with the Acura, and I would have bought a used
Legend instead of the Passport if it had come in 4WD. Alas my driveway
does not allow 2WD cars to leave it in the winter, it lets them in but
they aren't able to get out until spring.

Darren Byrd

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Aug 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/1/97
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In article <19970801011...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, newtf...@aol.com
says...
I bought my Saturn because my previous Saturn ( a 1994 SL2) was put through
hell and back and never broke. Also the insurance, cost of ownership, great
plastic doors, great paint and rev happy engine. My Saturn has only a K & N
airfilter, yet will run 0-60 in 8.3 seconds, and yes this has been timed
repeatedly. And my car is an automatic!! As fas as noisy, the Integra is the
wrong Honda product to put against Saturn as far as noise goes. I work at an
Auto auction and have driven every car imaginable and the Integras engine is
just as loud (in ls and GSR form) as my car if not louder! Also I've read in
numerous Magazine reports ( Car and Driver, MotorTrend ect) that the Integra
has a fairly noisy highway ride, louder than a Saturn if you compare db levels.
BTW I was not even trying to bash Honda owners or thier cars, they are quite
good, I was just posing a question. If you would like to know more on why I
bought my Saturn, feel free to email me, as I don't want to cloud up the
newsgroup.


Darren Byrd
1997 SC2a
15,000 miles


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Aug 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/1/97
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In article <19970801011...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
newtf...@aol.com (NewtFood97) wrote:

> Here's a better question: why do people pay $19,825(full option) for a low
> powered (124hp), noisy, unrefined, and crappy car like Saturn when you can
> get an Acura Integra for less?

A few reasons I can think of:

1) Insurance is much lower on the Saturn 2) The Satun buying experience
3) The knowledge (until recently) that no one paid less for the car than
you.

Except for #1, it is hard to believe that anyone would buy an SC2 or an
SL2 versus the competition, unless they don't understand that the
competition is heavily discounted from the MSRP.

As one of Ronald Reagan's people said (when they tried to get rid of the
CPSC) 'Imperfect products should be available because consumers have
different preferences for defect avoidance.'

Well, I'm proud to say I've saved many people from making the ultimate
mistake.

Jaguar Charles

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Aug 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/2/97
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On 1 Aug 1997 17:14:19 GMT, z_by...@titan.sfasu.edu (Darren Byrd)
wrote:

>says...
>>
>>
>>Someone who buys an overpriced and glorified GM product is criticizing
>>someone!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>
>> Maybe he likes his Honda dealer better and likes the H on the hood. Or

>>maybe he got a better deal on it. Who cares why he bought it. Here's a


>>better question: why do people pay $19,825(full option) for a low
>>powered (124hp), noisy, unrefined, and crappy car like Saturn when you can
>>get an Acura Integra for less?

I guess I am in a wierd postion. I just bought a 93' Integra after
looking at a Saturn. I like Saturn, and I like Acura. But the local
Honda Dealers and Acura Dealers were about stuck up as Hell.

So guess where I got my Acura? You guessed it, on the Saturn Used Car
Lot. I got a good deal on a low mileage car. And crack on Saturns all
you want, but they had 93' SC2 and it was $600 more than the 93'
Acura and the Acura had 50K on it and the Saturn had 70k. Both were
outfitted the same. So the first round went to the Saturn for holding
its Value more so than the Acura. In 93' BTW The Acura was about a
little over a $1000 more than the Saturn, I checked it out. But the
Acura won also because it was least expensive.

I test drove both, Both were loudish, but I like to hear my car
somewhat, I think the Acura was a little quiter though. But I have to
replace the damn timing belt in 30k and that will never have had to
happen if I bought the Saturn (Savings of $400 more BTW). So the
Saturn won again.

Performance was about on par with each other. Power ws about equal,
straight line performance was not much noticalby different. Handling
though in the Integra was noticably better than the the SC2. And
Handling means more in traffic than speed. So the Acura won easily.

Exterior looks were considered, I liked both, but I liked the wider
stance of the Acura and disliked the tall stance of the Saturn.
So the Acura won, but only by a little. Now if I had been looking at a
1997 SC2 the Saturn would have one.

Overall I liked both, it was the interior that really won me over. I
am 6'-2" and I felt more comfortable in the Acura. Much more
comforatble, so the Acura won.

So with all things considered both are good cars, both were fast, both
were about the same noise level, both has pluses and minuses. I really
liked both a lot. And to be honest really was intending to buy the
Saturn. But the Acura won me over.

Of all the things I liked most, was the dealership and the way I was
treated. At the Saturn dealer I felt it was my call (Which it was) and
were helpful but not pushy. They also didnt get irritated that I test
drove the two cars 3 seperate times over three days. The Honda/Acura
Dealer acted like I was a bother and he was doing me a favor by
showing me his cars. This is why Saturn dealers are given such a good
record and pepole like dealing with them.

When I buy my next car, I will be buying a Saturn or a whatever from
the Used Lot. But I will be buying it at my local Saturn dealer.


Charles Goin
President, Mid-Atlantic Opel Association
An Chapter of the North American Opel Asso.
http://www.opel-na.com
opel...@opel-na.com
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