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supra911

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
off cars.

one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
some crap like that. So he is pissed.

Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
Totaling up to $400.

Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

Gearin

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Aug 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/22/99
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i was pulled over in my shitty small town for having dark skin and because
my new car liscense sticker thing had fallen off the back window. It took
the cop 15 minutes to give me a warning.

Justin Van Aulen <j_van...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey Supra,
>
>
>
> This happened about 3 months ago in Lancaster, Pa. A good friend of
mine
> called me up and informed me that he would be passing though my area on
the
> way to a business trip in New York, and wondered if he could spend a night
> at my home. I agreed, and since this friend and I are good buddy's, I
> thought it would be nice if we would go out to dinner. We picked up my
> Girlfriend, and went out to eat.
>
> He drives a 1998 Mercedes-Benz S430. After the great time at the
> restaurant, we headed out to see a movie at about 7:30. Coming home from
the
> movie at about 10:00, we passed what looked at the time like a unmarked
> police car. Continuing down the road, we come to an intersection. I
spotted
> a fully marked police car with it's "parking lamps" on, seemly waiting for
> us. After informing my friend there was a police car there, we came to a
> complete stop, and then proceeded thought the intersection, making a left
> turn. Sure enough, the police car pulls out and follows us, tail gating us
> nearing the whole time. He then proceeds to put his red and blue lights
on,
> followed by the accompanying siren we all have learned to hate the sound
> off. We pull over immediately. Now, as the police officer takes he time,
all
> three of us converse on what we could have done wrong. We were obeying the
> speed limit, we stopped at the intersection and checked for oncoming
> traffic, and signaled. We wait to find out...
>
>
> The police officer asks for the regular stuff, license, insurance, and
> registration. After looking over the car, and shining the flashlight in my
> face for about 10 seconds, he proceeds to tell us why we were pulled over.
> "Those headlights, they ain't legal....they have a 'non dot' blue color to
> them, and you'll have to change them...cause there not safe..." Now, if
you
> know anything about Mercedes-Benz automobiles, you realize that the
> headlamps are not "fake blue" units. His S430 came from the factory with
> High Intensity Discharge (HID) lighting feature. There is nothing fake
about
> it. After attempting to convince the officer of his mistake, He went back
to
> his car, and proceeded to write my friend a ticket for "failure of proper
> lighting on a passenger vehicle". The fine was 57 dollars. We drove off,
> disgusted with the outcome. My friend Steve, took it to court, ending up
> with a total victory, and a formal letter written by the officer that
issued
> us the ticket claiming he was sorry. Perhaps my local police department
> should check the facts before wasting our time with needless
> procedure...sorry for the vent, just needed to get that out. :)
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
>
>

SIB600RR

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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I got one for "overtaking on the left" in an intersection, after the idiot in
front of me couldn't figure out how to turn without having a 2.5mile
visability!

I fought it, the cop didn't show, and I won!

scot

Justin Van Aulen

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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rm

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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I got stopped by six police cars doing 'donuts' on a snowy parking lot
New Year's eve with my gf.

I saw a cop car approaching, lights off, and figured he was trying to
'shoo' me out of there. Then there were five other cars, each
approaching from each exit, lights off. They all tirned on their
lights at the same time.

I slowly proceeded to the exit...over the bullhorn I heard "are you
gonna stop, or what?" So I stopped.

After about 30 minutes of harassment, they let me go.

They made me stand on glare ice and walk a straight line. The cop
really wanted to arrest me and was doing his best to try to piss me
off. I was dressed in a suit and the outside temp was about 30
degrees, with a strong wind. My fingers were getting frozen, so I
kept wanting to rub them together and the cop kept shouting 'keep your
hands at your side!'

cop: now whan I say to begin, I want you to walk down this line
me: ok (starting to walk the line)
cop: hold it, I didn't tell you to begin
me: ok (I stop)
cop: now, I want you to walk down this line

then he started asking me about where I worked, when I told him, he
started saying: "so what, are you one of those manager types there??"
and I said "no, just an underpaid moron like you" (that's what I
wanted to say, anyway)

meanwhile, my gf was literally ripping this cop's partner a new
one...they asked if she was a lawyer. I said no.

I was really tempted to do just one more donut as I left the lot, but
saner minds prevailed.....

mike

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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In article <DC5w3.6013$FG4.2...@news1.teleport.com>,

"Gearin" <Gea...@teleport.com> wrote:
> i was pulled over in my shitty small town for having dark skin and
because
> my new car liscense sticker thing had fallen off the back window. It
took
> the cop 15 minutes to give me a warning.

dark skin? how did you figure that? not everyone is racist you
know. anyways, back to the topic... would you have preferred
the cop give you a ticket? You should be happy he gave you
a warning. And waiting 15 minutes is nothing...

mike

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mike

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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In article <37c14e21.1131517@philproxy>,
.@.com wrote:

he asked you what you do there? That has absolutely no relevance
to anything. Oh brother.

you should have said yes to her being a lawyer :)

mike

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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"supra911" <supr...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were
showing
> off cars.
>
> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
> He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
> A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
> some crap like that. So he is pissed.

the sheriff gave you a ticket for your friends car being noisy? that is
dumb, wierd too. I would be pissed.
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SIB600RR

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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That is LAN-CASTER Pa....ahahahaha


scot
hbg, pa

Lee Cao

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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supra911 wrote:
>
> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
> off cars.
>
> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
> He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
> A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
> some crap like that. So he is pissed.
>

> Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
> and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
> told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
> so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
> Totaling up to $400.
>
> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

Broken license plate light. Got a repair order and that was it.

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Mark A. Davis

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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supra911 wrote:
>
> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
> off cars.
>
> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
> He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
> A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
> some crap like that. So he is pissed.
>
> Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
> and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
> told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
> so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
> Totaling up to $400.
>
> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

Sorry, but neither sounds "dumb" to me.... he was making unreasonable
noise for no reason ; and the other was blocking his visibility. Both
are valid ticket offenses, although kind of picky.

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slacker808

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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one day, i was at the Highway Patrol station to take care of a fix-it
ticket (no front plate). while i was waiting, i asked the guy next to me
what he was there for. he said, he got cited for "headlights are too
low". (???)

in other words, his car was too low. i don't know why the cop didn't
cite him for having *a car that was too low* because it sounds less
stupid than *headlights are too low*. :-P

anyway, i don't know where you're at, but those tickets that your
friends got are pretty valid here in California... no decals are allowed
on the front windshield. no covers on headlights. no "limo tint" on
front driver and passenger windows. and no loud exhausts. the definition
of loud varies, but if a cop is having a slow day then you can be sure
you'll get a ticket. :-(

---
rich

Kaos

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Aug 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/23/99
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jacks0n <odja...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
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>
> > Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??
>
> well, a few years ago when i first started driving, i saw a cop pass on
> the highway and figured "hey he can't ticket me for speeding if i'm
> going the same speed as he is." so i pull out behind him.
>
> the cop pulls over into the right hand lane, waves me in front of him,
> and puts the lights on...
>
> talk about feeling like a dumbass.
>
> oh well...
>
> jackson

I would have contested it, unless he has his lights on he has to follow the
same laws as everyone else.

jacks0n

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

well, a few years ago when i first started driving, i saw a cop pass on
the highway and figured "hey he can't ticket me for speeding if i'm
going the same speed as he is." so i pull out behind him.

the cop pulls over into the right hand lane, waves me in front of him,
and puts the lights on...

talk about feeling like a dumbass.

oh well...

jackson
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marcus

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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That's something I've always wondered... can / will a police officer
pull you over if you're speeding but your following him (and he has no
blue lights on, of course). Many times a cop will be doing 55-60 in a
45 and I'll be right behind him, but I never stay there long... what's
the chance if him getting you for this?


: > well, a few years ago when i first started driving, i saw a cop

Alan

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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I know some guy who actually got radared from a cop who was in front of
him. He asked to see the radar and the cop showed him the radar that was
sitting in his back seat.

Just don't follow too close to annoy him.

Lee Cao

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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Kaos wrote:

> > the cop pulls over into the right hand lane, waves me in front of him,
> > and puts the lights on...
> >
> > talk about feeling like a dumbass.
> >
> > oh well...
> >
> > jackson
>

> I would have contested it, unless he has his lights on he has to follow the
> same laws as everyone else.

Well you can't be doing something stupid. If he is driving 20 mph
above the speed limit, it's probably best to keep it within 15mph of
the speed limit. I would follow a cop up to 15mph above the speed
limit. Beyond that, too rich for my blood. Also, I never follow
right behind him, but as far off to the side in another lane as
possible. If there are other cars around, that's even better.

Anyway, you should have contested it. By driving at what ever speed
he was driving, he demonstrated that it was a safe and prudent speed
to drive. You are merely reacting to a driving condition which allowed
for the higher speed. If he was speeding becuse of a certain type of
emergency (only situation where they are allowed to speed without
lights and siren), then he shouldn't have bothered with you anyway
because of that emergency.

But since there is no emergency and the police felt that it was safe
to be driving at that speed, it gave you every right to drive at that
speed as well. "Police direction superceeds posted signs" in all
States.

Generic

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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In article <OBrc0sQ7#GA.320@cpmsnbbsa03>, supr...@email.msn.com says...

> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
> off cars.
>
> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
> He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
> A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
> some crap like that. So he is pissed.
>
> Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
> and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
> told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
> so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
> Totaling up to $400.
>
> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??
>
>
>

Back in March or April I went south to a small town to pick up a takeout
order(great Mexican resturant), I had just entered city limits and turned
off the main highway into town, as I approached a 4-way intersection
behind the local police I didn't think I had done anything wrong. He
turned left and I went straight, well He did a U-turn and followed me to
the resturant and pulled me over. I got a ticket for doing 38 in a 25,
before this I had never gotten a speeding ticket in my life and then I
get this, the equilivent of walking to fast. I sign the ticket, go get
my food, and when I come back out He has already stopped someone else!!
It didn't help that the same week I got caught by Photo Radar in another
city. Needless to say whenever I travel thru a small town from now on I
drive at a snail's pace. I didn't used to be afraid of being stopped but
if I am going to be stopped for this, then what? I also bought a Radar
Detector within 2 weeks of this, I used to think they were a waste of
money.

Kent

JBgoode

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slacker808 wrote in message
<37C1E66B...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc>...

>one day, i was at the Highway Patrol station to take care of a fix-it
>ticket (no front plate). while i was waiting, i asked the guy next to me
>what he was there for. he said, he got cited for "headlights are too
>low". (???)
>
>in other words, his car was too low. i don't know why the cop didn't
>cite him for having *a car that was too low* because it sounds less
>stupid than *headlights are too low*. :-P


That is probably a correct description. The law likely specifies a minimum
headlight height for safety. This would also apply to people who drive
around at night with just their foglights on.

Jon

rm

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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one stupid thing and one lucky thing:

I was doing about 80 in a 55 when I came up on a black crown-vic, rear
sway bar, baby moon hubcaps, lots of antennas (hmmm..is it a cop?)

then I saw the regular license plate (Ohio police cars have county
plates)...." not a cop....I thought...some cop wanna-be"

I go past him at about 85+ and ....guess what, he nails it and is
right on my tail "some cop wanna-be" i think. I punch it and get up
to about 100....he's right with me.

Then there were these flashing blue lights in the grill that he turned
on.....

So he makes the stop, runs my license, and DID_NOT give me a ticket.
It turns out he was a detective...whewww.


Now the lucky one:

I was going up I-75 near Lexington, and a cop nails me, with laser,
going 90 in my Accord. He makes the stop and is just putting
pen-to-ticket when a guy accross the road starts yelling "officer,
officer, there's been an accident...." he throws my license, insurance
card, registration back in my lap and says "it's your lucky day, pal"
and runs back to his patrol car. whewwwwww

Chris G.

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:40:14 -0600, "Kaos" <ma...@zianet.com> wrote:


>I would have contested it, unless he has his lights on he has to follow the
>same laws as everyone else.

Not true. Most if not all police forces have a "code" signal for
responding to an emergency without lights and siren. Here in Ohio, I
know for fact that they train them in this area, because they are much
more liable/responsible when responding in this mode.

Take care.

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slacker808

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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let's face it, cops can do anything they want... they're cops. i've seen
cops speed in residential zones, weave in and out of traffic, run red
lights, tail gate, and everything else.

---
rich

Robin Akwei

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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Last November in Wash. DC I got a ticket for not listening to a police
officer. I was stuck behind an officer on a motorcycle with a sidecar. The
road was a bit twisty and the speed limit was 25. This officer had a very
hard time getting around the corners and his speed dropped to about 15.
Given his difficulty at that speed and fearing that I may run him over, I
passed him. He yells at me: "Slow down!" I look at my speedometer and see
that I am only doing 20, so I ignored him and continued. He pulled me over
and in a rude manner demanded my drivers liscense, then spent the next 10
minutes writting up the ticket. When I tried to ask him what is it for he
continued to his bike and drove off. The stupid thing about this officer
is that he then yells as he goes by something to the effect of "You better
move or I will have to give you a ticket for illegal parking!" and laughs.
If I were a cruel person I should have passed him in the curves and drove
away at the legal speed while watching him kill himself trying to catch
me.

robin

Paul Jensen

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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By covers on headlights, do you mean clear covers? Where on the car are
clear covers legal?

Paul--My real e-mail address is kpdawgg at earthlink dot net.

slacker808 <slack...@isp.net.com.edu.org.mil.gov.etc> wrote in message
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> one day, i was at the Highway Patrol station to take care of a fix-it
> ticket (no front plate). while i was waiting, i asked the guy next to me
> what he was there for. he said, he got cited for "headlights are too
> low". (???)
>
> in other words, his car was too low. i don't know why the cop didn't
> cite him for having *a car that was too low* because it sounds less
> stupid than *headlights are too low*. :-P
>

Clint Law

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rm <.@.com> wrote in message <37c2ece1.15649295@philproxy>...

>one stupid thing and one lucky thing:
>
>I was doing about 80 in a 55 when I came up on a black crown-vic, rear
>sway bar, baby moon hubcaps, lots of antennas (hmmm..is it a cop?)

Just a note - all Crown Victorias (at least newer ones - 91 and up) have
rear sway bars - although I believe the police package may include a
slightly larger one. Basically, if you want a Police Crown Vic just order
the towing package - exept for a few deletes in the cop car they are almost
identical.

>
>then I saw the regular license plate (Ohio police cars have county
>plates)...." not a cop....I thought...some cop wanna-be"

Or some undercover cop....

>I go past him at about 85+ and ....guess what, he nails it and is
>right on my tail "some cop wanna-be" i think. I punch it and get up
>to about 100....he's right with me.
>
>Then there were these flashing blue lights in the grill that he turned
>on.....
>
>So he makes the stop, runs my license, and DID_NOT give me a ticket.
>It turns out he was a detective...whewww.


Detectives or other people that drive in unmarked and unlicsensed (normally
liscensed would be better term) cop cars are normally to busy to write you
a ticket or just don't give a damn. Although doing 100 right in front of
him is kind of pushing it - they do have radios.

Clint Law

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Mark A. Davis wrote in message <37C198...@yylaketaylor.org>...

>supra911 wrote:
>>
>> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
>> off cars.
>>
>> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.
>> He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.
>> A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
>> some crap like that. So he is pissed.
>>
>> Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
>> and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
>> told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
>> so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
>> Totaling up to $400.
>>
>> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??
>
>Sorry, but neither sounds "dumb" to me.... he was making unreasonable
>noise for no reason ; and the other was blocking his visibility. Both
>are valid ticket offenses, although kind of picky.


Both of these tickets sound normal to me too. I'm gussing that some
teenagers (at least I assumed they were teenagers) revving up their motors
in a mall parking lot would get someones attention (and get them annoyed),
and if they complain to the police then you can kiss yor butt goodbye.
Also, most police don't take to well to young people revving low resriction
mufflers in parking lots - and having a lot of tint and stickers on your
windows isn't a good idea either. I don't know too many places where I
wouldn't *expect* to get a ticket for this kind of behavior.


slacker808

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Aug 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/24/99
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not sure about clear covers... that's a judgement call by the cop that
pulls you over. but traditionally, you would definitely get a ticket for
having tinted/colored covers on your headlights. actually, those Phantom
covers are a judgement call too since they don't really interfere with
the headlights' ability to light the road.

---
rich

supra911

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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yep, u r right, in SC, we have unmarked camaro in ALL colors of the rainbow!

Patrick Smith <patsm...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >then I saw the regular license plate (Ohio police cars have county
> > >plates)...." not a cop....I thought...some cop wanna-be"
> >
> > Or some undercover cop....
> >
>

> I do a fair share of driving between Cleveland, Akron, and Canton and have
> never seen an undercover Ohio cop. Even when traveling to other parts of
the
> state, they are always marked Staties or local PD cars. I have seen the
> pursuit Mustang once though - but even that is marked.
> OTOH, I usually get down to South Carolina once or twice a year - we
vacation
> by Charleston, and I've been to the IASCA finals in Greenville ('96, '97)
when
> we stayed with my aunt. She told me to watch my speed, because S.C. uses
> unmarked cars or even trucks. Sure enough, one of the days we were driving
in
> Greenville we saw an old pickup with blue lights - had a victim pulled
over.
> And coming back from Charleston this year (I-26 I think) we saw no less
than
> *four* Camaro patrol cars sitting in the median. Odd though, we were
cruising
> in a pack (6-7 cars, local drivers too) at about 15 mph over the limit -
not
> one of the locals even blinked, and the cops didn't even care. The first
time
> I was freaked, kept looking for him to pull out. Never did. Maybe they
were
> waiting for someone doing 100+ ...
>
> Patrick
>
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>

Lee Cao

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slacker808 wrote:
>
> let's face it, cops can do anything they want... they're cops. i've seen
> cops speed in residential zones, weave in and out of traffic, run red
> lights, tail gate, and everything else.

I respect the fact that the police have a hard job to do and they
don't get paid very well for it either. So am as curteous to
them as much as possible. If they come up from behind me, I would
move over and let them by. I make a concious note to say a verbal
greeting when I pass them by on the street. But some times, a
few of them do things that ruins the reputation of many. Here is
one case:

I was stopped at a red light, cop pulls up next to me, sees that
the red light is going to be on for a while but there is no cars
crossing the intersection from the green direction. So he flashes
his lights, crosses the intersection, turns his lights off, and
continues on with his drive... which is a leisurely cruise speed.

*that* was uncalled for.

>
> ---
> rich

Lee Cao

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Clint Law wrote:
>
> rm <.@.com> wrote in message <37c2ece1.15649295@philproxy>...
> >one stupid thing and one lucky thing:
> >
> >I was doing about 80 in a 55 when I came up on a black crown-vic, rear
> >sway bar, baby moon hubcaps, lots of antennas (hmmm..is it a cop?)
>
> Just a note - all Crown Victorias (at least newer ones - 91 and up) have
> rear sway bars - although I believe the police package may include a
> slightly larger one. Basically, if you want a Police Crown Vic just order
> the towing package - exept for a few deletes in the cop car they are almost
> identical.

I try to judge a police package crown vic by the wider tires and dual
exhaust. Is this a safe bet? Also, the antenna, lights in the rear
window... etc...

Oh and out-of state license plate is a definite negative.

Speaking of cops... I've seen Virginia and Maryland police use smaller
cars to crack down on speeders. I've seen a Lumina, and a Grand Am
as police cars.

In South Carolina, I saw a silver Camaro Z28 police cruiser. I was
happily motoring along at 75mph in a 70mph zone in a Buick Century.
(yawn, snore).

>
> >
> >then I saw the regular license plate (Ohio police cars have county
> >plates)...." not a cop....I thought...some cop wanna-be"
>
> Or some undercover cop....
>

> >I go past him at about 85+ and ....guess what, he nails it and is
> >right on my tail "some cop wanna-be" i think. I punch it and get up
> >to about 100....he's right with me.
> >
> >Then there were these flashing blue lights in the grill that he turned
> >on.....
> >
> >So he makes the stop, runs my license, and DID_NOT give me a ticket.
> >It turns out he was a detective...whewww.
>
> Detectives or other people that drive in unmarked and unlicsensed (normally
> liscensed would be better term) cop cars are normally to busy to write you
> a ticket or just don't give a damn. Although doing 100 right in front of
> him is kind of pushing it - they do have radios.

--

Ray Cheung

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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Lee Cao wrote:
>
> Speaking of cops... I've seen Virginia and Maryland police use smaller
> cars to crack down on speeders. I've seen a Lumina, and a Grand Am
> as police cars.
>

In IL, I've seen cops using all limo tinted Mustang, Camaro, Grand Prix
and pickup. They are usually black or white, but I've seen a silver Grand
Prix. Whenever I see one of those white or black fully limo tinted
Mustang or Camaro, I will slow down.

I've also seen some Luminas with lights on the top.

I think they will soon use Viper and vette in IL.

Robin Akwei

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Yes, I have noticed a similar one once: on a local six lane divided road
there was some construction going on to replace a major water main (or
some such) and it required the crew to close two of the three lanes going
in on direction. I was the last car in the queue trying to get pass the
construction site and roughly half way pass. Then I heard a siren going
behind, looked in my mirror and saw a county cop car speeding in my
direction, too fast to stop. Just as he enters the construction area I am
starting to get pass the last cone, I took a sharp right to get out of the
way. The cop flys through the site weaves pass the car that was in front
of me and turns off his lights and siren.

At the crest of the hill, I catch up to him waiting to make a left turn,
which he does in front of traffic, but without his lights on. The amount
of room he had was small enough that if his car had stalled there would
have been no room for the cars, he cutted in front of, to stop. If he
waited five seconds longer he would have had a clear road to cross.

I can only assume that either his wife was ready to conceive or he wanted
to catch her with her lover!

ciao

robin

ps though I try not too, my respect for the police is quickly ebbing away.
Pity, since quite a few a pretty decent.

On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Lee Cao wrote:

E. Meyer

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I still remember cruising along Illinois 47 amidst the corn one fine summer
day in 1968. As I passed a billboard I thought I saw the sun flash off
something. So I glanced in the rearview and there, hiding behind the
billboard was a really sharp looking new Corvette fastback. The driver was
wearing the "Smokey-the-bear" hat of an Illinois state trouper and the radar
gun was sticking out the side window. Now if they would just spend that
kind of change on filling in the big pothole that is the Illinois road
system...

Ray Cheung <rch...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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Michael David Hamilton

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Lee Cao (lig...@leecao.com) wrote:

: I was stopped at a red light, cop pulls up next to me, sees that


: the red light is going to be on for a while but there is no cars
: crossing the intersection from the green direction. So he flashes
: his lights, crosses the intersection, turns his lights off, and
: continues on with his drive... which is a leisurely cruise speed.

: *that* was uncalled for.

I've seen this as well. They will drive quite agressively and when they
need to break the law, on comes the lights.

Quite sad.

Mike


Esco x 2

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In my town every time it gets dark out the cops tend to get cranky. I drive by
them with my stereo on during the day and no problem. But I have recieved two
warnings of "disturbing the peace" for playing my stereo system at 9:00 or
later at night. This is in a city too, not a neighborhood. yeesh.

Cameron Huang

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: I've seen this as well. They will drive quite agressively and when they
: need to break the law, on comes the lights.

Of course.

My dumbest ticket ever? I was pulled over because the number the dial on
my dashboard was pointing to was higher than the number painted on a sign
on the side of the road.

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Gearin

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I fish-tailed around a corner right in front of a cop at a stoplight and he
pulled me over and told me i should drive slower when it rains...
not a bad guy.

Robin Akwei <rak...@gl.umbc.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.SGI.4.10A.B3.9908...@umbc9.umbc.edu...

> > I was stopped at a red light, cop pulls up next to me, sees that
> > the red light is going to be on for a while but there is no cars
> > crossing the intersection from the green direction. So he flashes
> > his lights, crosses the intersection, turns his lights off, and
> > continues on with his drive... which is a leisurely cruise speed.
> >
> > *that* was uncalled for.
> >
> > >

Robin Akwei

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to Paul Chefurka

YES, to be able to do that and not be shot, a tall black man would most
likely get arrested or worst......!


cya

robin

On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Paul Chefurka wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:36:21 -0400, Lee Cao <lig...@leecao.com> wrote:
>
> >I was stopped at a red light, cop pulls up next to me, sees that
> >the red light is going to be on for a while but there is no cars
> >crossing the intersection from the green direction. So he flashes
> >his lights, crosses the intersection, turns his lights off, and
> >continues on with his drive... which is a leisurely cruise speed.
> >
> >*that* was uncalled for.
> >
>

> I have a story about my wee sainted mother and the fuzz. She is 75,
> about 5'2", 100 lb, very bright, and as law-abiding as they come. One
> day she was behind a patrol car as they approached a stop sign. The
> cop made a rolling stop and went on through. She full-stopped, then
> drove up behind him, flashed her lights and tooted her horn. He
> pulled over, she pulled up behind him. She got out and went up to his
> window. The conversation went like this:
>
> Copper: "Can I help you ma'am?"
> Mum: "Yes, sir. I'd like to know how to make a citizen's arrest,
> please."
> Copper: "Ummm... who do you want to arrest, ma'am?"
> Mum: "Why, you of course."
> Copper: "Me????? Why?"
> Mum: Well, you broke the law just now. You see that stop sign back
> there? You failed to come to a complete stop, and I'm sure that's
> against the law."
> Copper: "......!!!.....Welllll, if I'm really polite and promise not
> to do it again, will you let me off with a warning this time?"
> Mum: "OK, this time. But please remember that the laws apply to
> everyone! Have a good afternoon, officer."
> Copper: "Uhhh, you too, ma'am!"
>
> Oh to be a tiny little white-haired lady!
>
> Paul Chefurka
>
>
>
>
>

Paul Chefurka

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Jmmst53

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If you can hear it outside of the car, then it's probably too loud. It seems
to me in a few years there's going to be a large number of 30 year-old men with
hearing problems. I mean, seriously, nobody should be forced to listen to
someone else's music.

midwes...@my-deja.com

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Dumb by me or dumb by the cop?

I was driving in Denton Tx @ 5:30am on a Sunday Morning on my way to
work to use design software to complete a school project. Me and a cop
car were the only cars on the streets and we both caught the red light,
side by side.

When the light turned green, I made sure I was driving at the speed
limit. After about 5 blocks, I was two car lengths in front of him. I
figured he was going slower so that he could look at my license plate.
No problem.

All of a sudden the rollers come on. He pulls me over. I'm thinking my
inspection sticker or tags must be out of date.

Why did he pull me over?

I was going 1 mph over the speed limit.

His reasoning was that that his speedo was calibrated and that he was
doing EXACTLY the speed limit. Sinse I gained two car lengths on him, I
must have been speeding.

Thats the most I ever mouthed off to a cop. My pile of books and
notebooks were in the passenger seat, so I think he believed my story.
And no, he didn't have the guts to write the ticket.

Mo ticket, but it was a really dumb situation.

In article <OBrc0sQ7#GA.320@cpmsnbbsa03>,


"supra911" <supr...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were
showing
> off cars.
>
> one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.

> .....


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I was pulled over in my 1983 Civic HB automatic for allegedly going 55 mph
coming out of a sharp turn in a 30 mph zone. The car could hardly get to 55
mph on the highway, much less coming out of a turn! The DA dropped it.

supra911 wrote:

> Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

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Esco x 2 wrote in message <19990825162140...@ng-bk1.aol.com>...

Have you ever thought - even for just one minute - about anyone other than
yourself? Do you really think that anyone outside of your car wants to
listen to your "music"? Have you ever considered that some people (like
kids, or people that work during the day) might like to sleep at night? I
hope that your community has an impound law, and that they use it on you,
soon.

Wake up! Realize that *you* aren't the only person on the planet.

Mike

XxPaulCPxx

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>Wake up! Realize that *you* aren't the only person on the planet.

OH YES I AM!

Oh wait, did I say that out loud?

rm

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I got stopped doing 95+ in a 55 and got a warning (he was a detective
on his way to court).

Lee Cao

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Jmmst53 wrote:
>
> If you can hear it outside of the car, then it's probably too loud.

If this is the rule, then all stock stereos are too loud.

> It seems
> to me in a few years there's going to be a large number of 30 year-old men with
> hearing problems. I mean, seriously, nobody should be forced to listen to
> someone else's music.

Of course not. That's why all 600 watts in my stereo is tuned to
produce great sound quality at an in-car 100dB level, not to blast
130 dBs into the car next to me.

Blowero

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>What's yours?
>From: "Gearin" Gea...@teleport.com
>Date: Sun, 22 August 1999 07:11 PM EDT
>Message-id: <DC5w3.6013$FG4.2...@news1.teleport.com>
>
>i was pulled over in my shitty small town for having dark skin and because
>my new car liscense sticker thing had fallen off the back window. It took
>the cop 15 minutes to give me a warning.

I don't know if you are aware of this, but white people are also required to
have their vehicle licensed. And the police routinely run a check on EVERYONE
they pull over. That's why you had to wait.


Blowero

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>Subject: Re: Dumbest tickets ever: What's yours?
>From: "Kaos" ma...@zianet.com
>Date: Mon, 23 August 1999 08:40 PM EDT
>Message-id: <37c1e...@oracle.zianet.com>
>
>
>jacks0n <odja...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
>news:7psnhl$ud9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

>>
>> > Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??
>>
>> well, a few years ago when i first started driving, i saw a cop pass on
>> the highway and figured "hey he can't ticket me for speeding if i'm
>> going the same speed as he is." so i pull out behind him.
>>
>> the cop pulls over into the right hand lane, waves me in front of him,
>> and puts the lights on...
>>
>> talk about feeling like a dumbass.
>>
>> oh well...
>>
>> jackson
>
>I would have contested it, unless he has his lights on he has to follow the
>same laws as everyone else.


You would lose. Police in marked patrol vehicles do not have to follow the
same laws as everyone else. And yes, they are allowed to speed without turning
on their lights.

Jmmst53

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>Of course not. That's why all 600 watts in my stereo is tuned to
>produce great sound quality at an in-car 100dB level, not to blast
>130 dBs into the car next to me.
>
>-

Lee:

You're obviously an instigator, a prevaricator, a troublemaker. Police have
the authority and can and will write a citation for a vehicle (or for the
person) that is playing music too loud, has too loud an exhaust -- whatever --
if it disturbing others.

I know -- I've written citations for vehicles that have violated noise
regulations or other noise-related motor vehicle laws. Common sense is the
deciding factor in whether an officer writes a person or a vehicle. But
really, if someone is so inconsiderate to play music so loudly that it affects
others (affecting others is the key here -- regardless of whether a stock sound
system is so loud it can be heard outside the vehicle), the person deserves a
citation.

Your argument about a stock sound system able to be heard outside a vehicle is
moot. It is analogous to a store that sells opaque (or nearly opaque)
registration plate covers. The argument from the car owner is that the store
should be ticketed for selling the item, not the driver for using it or
covering his plate with the cover. The law applys to the use of the cover, not
the selling of it....

Lee Cao

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Jmmst53 wrote:
>
> >Of course not. That's why all 600 watts in my stereo is tuned to
> >produce great sound quality at an in-car 100dB level, not to blast
> >130 dBs into the car next to me.
> >
> >-
>
> Lee:
>
> You're obviously an instigator, a prevaricator, a troublemaker.

Huh? And you deduced that from the comment I made above. Please
englighten me with your logic. I think you mis-read my post. The
tone from my post is obviously that I don't want to bother other
people with my stereo.

> Police have
> the authority and can and will write a citation for a vehicle (or for the
> person) that is playing music too loud, has too loud an exhaust -- whatever --
> if it disturbing others.

I agree. My enjoyment should not be based on the pain and suffering
of others. And as long as I am not "damaged" in the process, other
people can do anything they please as well.



> I know -- I've written citations for vehicles that have violated noise
> regulations or other noise-related motor vehicle laws.

Kudos to you! We don't need people rolling around with 1000 watts
and four 15"s in a band pass box mounted in the back of a Blazer
cruising around town blasting 150+dB shaking windows and setting off
car alarms. That's imature at best and it gives the rest of us car
audio enthusiasts a bad name.

> Common sense is the
> deciding factor in whether an officer writes a person or a vehicle. But
> really, if someone is so inconsiderate to play music so loudly that it affects
> others (affecting others is the key here -- regardless of whether a stock sound
> system is so loud it can be heard outside the vehicle), the person deserves a
> citation.
>
> Your argument about a stock sound system able to be heard outside a vehicle is
> moot.

No it is not moot. Because it was brought up as being qualification
for a citation. I merely pointed out the sillyness of that notion. Had
it
been said "loud enough to bother other people", I would have been
in 100% agreement.

> It is analogous to a store that sells opaque (or nearly opaque)
> registration plate covers. The argument from the car owner is that the store
> should be ticketed for selling the item, not the driver for using it or
> covering his plate with the cover. The law applys to the use of the cover, not
> the selling of it....

I agree. It is not illegal for the sale of any product, unless the
said product is a controlled substance and/or specificly listed as
being illegal to sell. The responsibility is on the shoulders of
the owner of said product to use it in a manner that complies with
the laws of the jurisdiction where the product is used. Selling
radar jammers is not illegal. Buying/selling a 10000 watt CB radio
is not illegal. Using it without a proper license is!

Patrick Austin

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I'm driving through a small town in seaside CT, killing time while my GF
was over at her grandmother's house. I was passing through a REALLY rich
neighborhood in my 16v VW GTI, not speeding or anything. I passed a cop
and he pulled me over. Now, I was running a two muffler system that was
damn near quieter than stock. Almost no noise, see? Well, he proceeds to
write me up for modified exhaust system, which he said was too loud. He
had to say this three times because at that moment, a guy in an early 70's
911S running what must have been strait megaphones drives by, rattling the
windows of my car and making the cop wince. He tore up the ticket,
frowned and let me off with a warning.

Mark A. Davis (ma...@yylaketaylor.org) wrote: :
supra911 wrote: : >

: > oK, while at the parking lot of a fun park, my buddies and I were showing
: > off cars.
: >
: > one of them was revving up his engine, while parked.

: > He has a Tanabe G Medelion in his '99 Civic.


: > A sheriff came by and gave me a $325 tickET!!!! for Noise Ordinance or
: > some crap like that. So he is pissed.
: >
: > Another friend got pulled for having too dark tint,
: > and while he was writing the ticket, he walked around the car and
: > told him that his "HondaSports" front winshield decal was opaque,
: > so he got a ticket for that, and a ticket for Phantom covers.
: > Totaling up to $400.

: >
: > Any dumb tickets you guys gotten so far??

: Sorry, but neither sounds "dumb" to me.... he was making unreasonable


: noise for no reason ; and the other was blocking his visibility. Both
: are valid ticket offenses, although kind of picky.

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haha

Esco x 2 <esc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Do you really think that anyone outside of your car wants to
> >listen to your "music"?
>

> they don't have to listen to my music, just my bass
>

marcus

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: If I were a cruel person I should have passed him in the curves and
drove
: away at the legal speed while watching him kill himself trying to
catch
: me.

oh shit, that one had me laughin'! ( -;

Mark A. Davis

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Esco x 2 wrote:
>
> >Do you really think that anyone outside of your car wants to
> >listen to your "music"?
>
> they don't have to listen to my music, just my bass

Then you are an inconsiderate ass

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Mark A. Davis

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Lee Cao wrote:
>
> Jmmst53 wrote:
> >
> > If you can hear it outside of the car, then it's probably too loud.
>
> If this is the rule, then all stock stereos are too loud.

Wrong. I can turn my (very good) system up to normal or even very loud
levels, step outside the car, close the door, and hear essentially
nothing.

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Lee Cao

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"Mark A. Davis" wrote:
>
> Lee Cao wrote:
> >
> > Jmmst53 wrote:
> > >
> > > If you can hear it outside of the car, then it's probably too loud.
> >
> > If this is the rule, then all stock stereos are too loud.
>
> Wrong. I can turn my (very good) system up to normal or even very loud
> levels, step outside the car, close the door, and hear essentially
> nothing.

I don't know how you quantify "nothing", but through experience,
every single stock stereo out there is "hearable" outside of the
car when turned up loud enough.

I am just in disagreement with the comment "if you can hear it
outside the car, it's probably too loud". That's just stupid.



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In article <Pine.GSO.4.10.990824...@rac7.wam.umd.edu>,
Alan <al...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> I know some guy who actually got radared from a cop who was in front
of
> him. He asked to see the radar and the cop showed him the radar that
was
> sitting in his back seat.
>
> Just don't follow too close to annoy him.

yeah, there was a radar on the back deck of this cop's car... like you
said i think i was just annoying him cuz i was going as fast as he
was... oh well...

jackson

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jacks0n

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> Oh to be a tiny little white-haired lady!

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

man that has got to be the funniest thing i have heard in a long time!!!

jackson

-who has got to stop reading this at work cuz he just scared the crap
out of his boss w/a very loud burst of laughter:)

jacks0n

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well, lee, i wish i had known you back then:)

> Well you can't be doing something stupid. If he is driving 20 mph
> above the speed limit, it's probably best to keep it within 15mph of
> the speed limit. I would follow a cop up to 15mph above the speed
> limit. Beyond that, too rich for my blood. Also, I never follow
> right behind him, but as far off to the side in another lane as
> possible. If there are other cars around, that's even better.
>
> Anyway, you should have contested it. By driving at what ever speed
> he was driving, he demonstrated that it was a safe and prudent speed
> to drive. You are merely reacting to a driving condition which allowed
> for the higher speed. If he was speeding becuse of a certain type of
> emergency (only situation where they are allowed to speed without
> lights and siren), then he shouldn't have bothered with you anyway
> because of that emergency.
>
> But since there is no emergency and the police felt that it was safe
> to be driving at that speed, it gave you every right to drive at that
> speed as well. "Police direction superceeds posted signs" in all
> States.


>
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Mark A. Davis

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Lee Cao wrote:
>
> "Mark A. Davis" wrote:
> >
> > Lee Cao wrote:
> > >
> > > Jmmst53 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you can hear it outside of the car, then it's probably too loud.
> > >
> > > If this is the rule, then all stock stereos are too loud.
> >
> > Wrong. I can turn my (very good) system up to normal or even very loud
> > levels, step outside the car, close the door, and hear essentially
> > nothing.
>
> I don't know how you quantify "nothing", but through experience,
> every single stock stereo out there is "hearable" outside of the
> car when turned up loud enough.

If loud enough, sure.... but that is probably intollerable inside the
car.



> I am just in disagreement with the comment "if you can hear it
> outside the car, it's probably too loud". That's just stupid.

Oh, I agree- that is a little too vague and picky. It is hard to
quantify such things.

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