transmission oil - 10w30?
Drew Boyles
Took my car in to Valvoline last Saturday (20th, I think) to have the
transmission fluid changed. After they drained it, they said that it calls
for Honda MTF, which they didn't have. Honda wasn't open on Saturday, so I
looked up in my manual that 10W30 motor oil can be used temporarily. They
said they'd put that in, charge me for it, and I could come back on Friday
(I go to school 2 hours away) and they'd put the Honda MTF in.
Friday I come back, and they give me the excuse that they've been busy,
couldn't pick up the stuff from Honda, could I come back tomorrow...ok, a
little upset now. I tell them I'll come back Sunday, which I do. This time
the guy tells me that he called a couple of Honda dealers, and they said
10W30 is the same stuff as Honda MTF.
I have no plans to return to Valvoline, simply because I don't feel like
dealing with running back and forth to have a routine service done. I do
wonder, though, if it is advisable to keep the 10W30 in the transmission.
Is it really not inferior to Honda MTF?
Drew Boyles
dbo...@resnet.gatech.edu
FingFang
After he stripped my oil pan drain plug and had to replace the oil pan, some
non-Honda mechanic clown put the wrong weight transmission fluid in my '89
Prelude and less than 10k miles later my transmission was fried.
Do not have your Honda serviced by anyone other than a Honda certified
mechanic. I take my Accord and Odyssey to a small shop operated by a guy who
worked at a Honda dealership for 15+ years.
You're asking for trouble at these "instant" oil-change places.
FiNGFaNG
Marc Cure
> This time
> the guy tells me that he called a couple of Honda dealers, and they said
> 10W30 is the same stuff as Honda MTF.
One Acura dealer and one Honda dealer I talked to didn't seem to know what
Honda MTF was, and they said they just use 10W30 in manual transmissions.
However, the Acura dealer with whom I normally do business does use Honda
MTF where it's called for. It's definitely not the same stuff, but some
dealers don't seem to know about it. Ask them to look it up.
> I do
> wonder, though, if it is advisable to keep the 10W30 in the transmission.
> Is it really not inferior to Honda MTF?
Honda MTF contains additives to help the synchros do their job. I'd
replace the 10W30 with Honda MTF as soon as it's convenient to do so. Both
the owner's manual and the factory service manual for my '98 Integra
specify Honda MTF, with 10W30 being only a temporary replacement.
What does shifting feel like with the 10W30, out of curiosity?
Marc
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Drew Boyles
>Honda MTF contains additives to help the synchros do their job. I'd
>replace the 10W30 with Honda MTF as soon as it's convenient to do so. Both
>the owner's manual and the factory service manual for my '98 Integra
>specify Honda MTF, with 10W30 being only a temporary replacement.
Any opinons on Redline MTL?
>What does shifting feel like with the 10W30, out of curiosity?
Hard to say, since I was overdue to have it changed before I had the 10W30
put in. It's definitely not as smooth as it once was, but my transmission
has had a rough life. I worry about the tranny more than the engine, as I
always change synthetic oil every 3k-3.5k miles. I'm just over 48k miles
and third gear already grinds unless at high RPM unless I shift
extra-slowly. My clutch seems to be slipping a little on gear changes, as
well.
Drew Boyles
dbo...@resnet.gatech.edu
Andrew & Wendy
"Chiltons" service manual says to. You've got me thinking now, perhaps I should
call my local Honda dealer and make sure they use 10W30. My tranny has a bit of
a whine when accelerating through 100-110Kph in 5th gear. This all started about
100,000km ago when I had my clutch replaced and they bonehead must have dumped a
bunch of fluid when removing the halfshafts. He must have decided to not top it
up and about 2 weeks later the whine started. I immediately checked the level
and didn't see any fluid. Drained the oil and discovered there was only about
1/2 the recommended amount in the tranny. I replaced the fluid twice in one
month with 10W30. The noise went away but it's starting to come back. I've
checked the level many times to make sure it's not leaking. I will definetly
call the dealer now though.
Andrew Pottle
e-mail --- awpo...@nb.sympatico.ca
Drew Boyles wrote:
> '96 Civic, manual tranny, 48k miles.
>
> Took my car in to Valvoline last Saturday (20th, I think) to have the
> transmission fluid changed. After they drained it, they said that it calls
> for Honda MTF, which they didn't have. Honda wasn't open on Saturday, so I
> looked up in my manual that 10W30 motor oil can be used temporarily. They
> said they'd put that in, charge me for it, and I could come back on Friday
> (I go to school 2 hours away) and they'd put the Honda MTF in.
>
> Friday I come back, and they give me the excuse that they've been busy,
> couldn't pick up the stuff from Honda, could I come back tomorrow...ok, a
> little upset now. I tell them I'll come back Sunday, which I do. This time
> the guy tells me that he called a couple of Honda dealers, and they said
> 10W30 is the same stuff as Honda MTF.
>
> I have no plans to return to Valvoline, simply because I don't feel like
> dealing with running back and forth to have a routine service done. I do
> wonder, though, if it is advisable to keep the 10W30 in the transmission.
> Is it really not inferior to Honda MTF?
>
> Drew Boyles
> dbo...@resnet.gatech.edu
Robert Toledano
and my owner's manual calls for...but, then again, that is for an Accord,
not a civic.
BTW My 87 prelude used 10w-30 also.
-r
Drew Boyles wrote in message <7begcq$frt$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>...
Jeff Dallacqua
<rob...@oit.gatech.edu> wrote:
>I've always put 10w-30 in my 92 accord because that is what the Helm manual
>and my owner's manual calls for...but, then again, that is for an Accord,
>not a civic.
>
>BTW My 87 prelude used 10w-30 also.
For it's worth, the manual for my '87 Civic calls for 10w30 for the
transmission.
michael moorman
motorcycle circles concerning the properties of motor oils.
The last 2 or so improvements in motor oil
have improved economy (more slipery ?) and
removed some metals which were bad for cat converters.
The metals improve oil performance under extreme pressure.
These 'improvements' are a problem for motorcycles and
are probably not great for auto manual transmissions either.
mpm
In article <7begcq$frt$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>, "Drew Boyles"
<gte...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
>'96 Civic, manual tranny, 48k miles.
>
>Took my car in to Valvoline last Saturday (20th, I think) to have the
>transmission fluid changed. After they drained it, they said that it calls
>for Honda MTF, which they didn't have. Honda wasn't open on Saturday, so I
>looked up in my manual that 10W30 motor oil can be used temporarily. They
>said they'd put that in, charge me for it, and I could come back on Friday
>(I go to school 2 hours away) and they'd put the Honda MTF in.
>
>Friday I come back, and they give me the excuse that they've been busy,
>couldn't pick up the stuff from Honda, could I come back tomorrow...ok, a
>little upset now. I tell them I'll come back Sunday, which I do. This time
>the guy tells me that he called a couple of Honda dealers, and they said
>10W30 is the same stuff as Honda MTF.
>
>I have no plans to return to Valvoline, simply because I don't feel like
>dealing with running back and forth to have a routine service done. I do
>wonder, though, if it is advisable to keep the 10W30 in the transmission.
>Is it really not inferior to Honda MTF?
>
>Drew Boyles
>dbo...@resnet.gatech.edu
>
>
Michael Moorman
Durham NC