Auto door locks keep re-locking on 94 Accord???
Adam
Steve Lin wrote:
>
> Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
> itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
> for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
> recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door. I thought the alarm was the
> problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a 94
> Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
> dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone else
> have this problem? I would like to get more facts before going to the
> dealer and have them look at me like I was crazy (like when I complained
> the passenger door would not unlock in cold weather....)
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> --
> "try not; do, or do not; there is no try" - Yoda
The Accord DX does not have factory power door locks, so it sounds like
a very unique Accord DX to me
Steve Lin
Steve Lin
In article <323335...@annex.com>, Adam <fea...@annex.com> wrote:
> Steve Lin wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
> > itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
> > for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
> > recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door.
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> The Accord DX does not have factory power door locks, so it sounds like
> a very unique Accord DX to me
I guess I meant the Accord model with power lock. Is that the LX? In any
case, has anyone else seen this problem?
Velocity
In article <R14526Q-1009...@lin-steve.sps.mot.com>,
R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
My '94 EX does the same thing -- it's tied into the alarm. When the key
is switched to ON, they lock. When it is switched off, they unlock. Sort
of a safety feature I guess, which can be enabled/disabled on the alarm's
control unit. It's an AutoPage alarm BTW..
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Steve Sheldon
In article <R14526Q-0909...@222.95.248.8>, R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
>Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
>itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
>for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
>problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a 94
>Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
>dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone else
>have this problem? I would like to get more facts before going to the
>dealer and have them look at me like I was crazy (like when I complained
>the passenger door would not unlock in cold weather....)
I've had the locks in my Integra occasionally spontaneously engage, and I
never quite figured out why. It's not that they lock, nor do they really
unlock, they just all of a sudden go 'click' and then fall back into place.
It's kind of strange.
I have a feeling it has something to do with the mechanical mechanism which
Honda uses in order to enhance the displeasure of having power door locks.
That is the blasted thing which makes you hold the handle open while operating
the doorlocks if the door is open.
One day I had a friend of mine going for a while. I had opened my door, and
then locked it. With my door open, he was not able to unlock his door. I had
to shut my door again and then unlock both doors at the same time.
But I've never had them spontaneously lock. If I lock the driver door by
hand, the passenger door locks as well, which is kind of nice.
Hmm... Personally, I think Honda's door lock mechanism is one of the worst
in the business, so if you've got problems, it might be considered a feature
by Honda for all I know.
Dennis Z Kuo
Steve Sheldon (she...@burnsville.mn.frontiercomm.net) wrote:
: In article <R14526Q-0909...@222.95.248.8>, R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
: >Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
: >itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
: >for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
: >recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door. I thought the alarm was the
: >problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a 94
: >Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
: >dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone else
: >have this problem? I would like to get more facts before going to the
: >dealer and have them look at me like I was crazy (like when I complained
: >the passenger door would not unlock in cold weather....)
: I've had the locks in my Integra occasionally spontaneously engage, and I
: never quite figured out why. It's not that they lock, nor do they really
: unlock, they just all of a sudden go 'click' and then fall back into place.
: It's kind of strange.
: I have a feeling it has something to do with the mechanical mechanism which
: Honda uses in order to enhance the displeasure of having power door locks.
: That is the blasted thing which makes you hold the handle open while operating
: the doorlocks if the door is open.
A few years ago my '88 Integra (5-door LS with power locks) started
locking and unlocking its doors at whim. I noticed that it happened if I
hit a pothole, cornered hard, even whacked on the roof. I recently had
my alarm module replaced, so I took the car to the alarm installers. 45
minutes later they announced that they had found that a wire from the
power door module had come loose--nothing to do with the alarm--and they
fixed it for free.
And why did this wire become loose? Because the power door lock module
is located under the driver's seat, exactly the same place where I was
unwittingly putting my Club. Whack!
The Club now goes on the back seat floor or the trunk.
: Hmm... Personally, I think Honda's door lock mechanism is one of the worst
: in the business, so if you've got problems, it might be considered a feature
: by Honda for all I know.
Now this is interesting. Never thought I'd see anyone have an opinion on
door locks, of all things....:)
Dennis Kuo
ku...@mail.med.upenn.edu
Steve Lin
In article <rscott-1009...@rscott.cts.com>, rsc...@cts.com
(Velocity) wrote:
> In article <R14526Q-1009...@lin-steve.sps.mot.com>,
> R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
>
> > In article <323335...@annex.com>, Adam <fea...@annex.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Steve Lin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
> > > > itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but
often enough
> > > > for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm
installed
> > > > recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door.
> My '94 EX does the same thing -- it's tied into the alarm. When the key
> is switched to ON, they lock. When it is switched off, they unlock. Sort
> of a safety feature I guess, which can be enabled/disabled on the alarm's
> control unit. It's an AutoPage alarm BTW..
Perhaps I should clarify my problem more clearly. My doors are already
locked by the alarm, but while I'm driving, I would hear the click and the
movement on the locks as if I just depressed the lock button again. This
would happen multiple times during one trip. A friend of mine has another
Accord with automatic locks but no alarm and it's doing the same thing
after the dealer had worked on something else in his car. I want to know
if anyone has the same problem and whether it can be fixed.
Cheers,
Steve
Nancy Kellett
Steve Lin (R14...@email.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
: itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
: for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
: problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a 94
: Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
: dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone else
: have this problem?
I had the same problem on my 94 LX coupe. What eventually happened was
that the driver's side power window went down by itself and wouldn't go
back up, so the dealer replaced a part in the door. When I got it back,
the locks were still acting up, so they ended up replacing another part.
Fortunately, this was all done under warranty. BTW, I do not have an
alarm system.
Nancy
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Steve Schwing
R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
>Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
>itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often enough
>for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm installed
>recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door. I thought the alarm was the
>problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a 94
>Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
>dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone else
>have this problem? I would like to get more facts before going to the
>dealer and have them look at me like I was crazy (like when I complained
>the passenger door would not unlock in cold weather....)
>Cheers,
>Steve
>--
>"try not; do, or do not; there is no try" - Yoda
Go see your dealer. He's well aware of this.......
Mark Janszen Ringo
On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 14:15:56 -0500, R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve
Lin) wrote:
OK, I have a 1996 Accord LX. A friend told me of a way to lock the
driver's door without using the key. All that you had to do was pull
the driver's door handle (inside the car) wide open and push the power
lock mechanism all of the way down. This will lock the doors.
HOWEVER, after doing this for a week or so I noticed the same behavior
that you are describing. What I suggest to you is exactly the
opposite. Hold the driver's inside door handle wide open and push the
locking switch UP. For me, this stopped the spontaneous locking of
the doors, as well as keeping me from locking the keys in the car
inadvertantly.
Hope that this helps.
Mark Ringo
Michael Detlefsen
In article <R14526Q-1109...@lin-steve.sps.mot.com>,
R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
> In article <rscott-1009...@rscott.cts.com>, rsc...@cts.com
> (Velocity) wrote:
>
> > In article <R14526Q-1009...@lin-steve.sps.mot.com>,
> > R14...@email.sps.mot.com (Steve Lin) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <323335...@annex.com>, Adam <fea...@annex.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steve Lin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
> > > > > itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but
> often enough
> > > > > for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm
> installed
> > > > > recently. I have a 94 Accord EX 4 door.
> > My '94 EX does the same thing -- it's tied into the alarm. When the key
> > is switched to ON, they lock. When it is switched off, they unlock. Sort
> > of a safety feature I guess, which can be enabled/disabled on the alarm's
> > control unit. It's an AutoPage alarm BTW..
> Perhaps I should clarify my problem more clearly. My doors are already
> locked by the alarm, but while I'm driving, I would hear the click and the
> movement on the locks as if I just depressed the lock button again. This
> would happen multiple times during one trip. A friend of mine has another
> Accord with automatic locks but no alarm and it's doing the same thing
> after the dealer had worked on something else in his car. I want to know
> if anyone has the same problem and whether it can be fixed.
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> --
> "try not; do, or do not; there is no try" - Yoda
My '94 Accord was doing the same thing. I have no alarm on mine. I took it
to the dealer, and he said, "Oh, yeah, we know about that". 45 minutes
later I drove away with a new solenoid thing in the driver's door, and it
fixed the problem. You dealer should have a service notification on this.
Mike
Robert L. Wiedel
In article <R14526Q-0909...@222.95.248.8>,
R14...@email.sps.mot.comö says...
>
>Hello, I recently noticed that my automatic door locks would re-lock
>itself while I'm driving. This seems to occurr randomly, but often
enough
>for me to notice. I didn't have the problem until I had a alarm
installed
>problem until I found out a co-worker has the same problem. He has a
94
>Accord DX 4 door but no alarm. He start noticing the problem after the
>dealer fixed his cigarette lighter, which had no power. Does anyone
else
>have this problem? I would like to get more facts before going to the
>dealer and have them look at me like I was crazy (like when I
complained
>the passenger door would not unlock in cold weather....)
>Steve
>
>--
>"try not; do, or do not; there is no try" - Yoda
I also have a 94 Honda Accord LX and recently had a remote key
installed. I have noticed several times that after parking (in my
garage) I find the car has re-locked itself. I have been curious too.
Bob Wiedel
Danny Chung
lock interface. I've installed the same type on my minivan before. I
always study the factory wiring diagram very carefully before I started
the job, I can't say the same for some of the 'professionals'. There are
so many computers controlling different functions on a car these days, I
don't want to take a chance with a 'pro'. The Accord power lock switch
is a negative ground type of system, where if you ground either
lock/unlock wire from the switch to the lock control module in the
drivers door, the doors will lock/unlock. These wires are usually the
ones an alarm installer will tap into. However, if there is any torn
insulation in these wires (since they must be pulled through a few body
parts), vibrations might ground the locking wire and cause the doors to
lock.
Another possibility is that the alarm/keyless entry module is defective.
In my alarm (Audiovox PS 20i), all alarm/door functions are disabled
when the ignition is on. The doors shouldn't lock when driving down the
road. You can test by arming the system with the engine running.
Unless the ignition tap is loose (alarm thinks the car is parked) and
the passive arming option is set at installation, in which case the
alarm will arm itself and lock the doors. I think this is a remote
possibility.
Steve Lin
> > In article <R14526Q-0909...@222.95.248.8>,
-------------<problem with locks toggling snipped>------------
> I've just finished installing an alarm on my '92 Accord with the power
> lock interface. I've installed the same type on my minivan before. I
> always study the factory wiring diagram very carefully before I started
> the job, I can't say the same for some of the 'professionals'. There are
> so many computers controlling different functions on a car these days, I
> don't want to take a chance with a 'pro'. The Accord power lock switch
> is a negative ground type of system, where if you ground either
> lock/unlock wire from the switch to the lock control module in the
> drivers door, the doors will lock/unlock. These wires are usually the
> ones an alarm installer will tap into. However, if there is any torn
> insulation in these wires (since they must be pulled through a few body
> parts), vibrations might ground the locking wire and cause the doors to
> lock.
---------<possible problem with alarm snipped>----------------
Well, turns out the 94 Accords all have defective actuators that causes
this 'cycling' of locks. My friend got his Accord fixed for free even
after the warranty period because this is a known problem. Unfortunately,
I already have the new actuators (to fix the cold winter unlock problem)
and the dealer says I would be the first person with this problem on the
new actuators. Since I didn't have this problem until the alarm was
installed, it's probably related somehow. Let me point out that the doors
do not actually lock/unlock. They just seem to toggle by themself
randomly, usually when in locked position. I tried driving around with
the doors unlocked but never did see the locks toggle, or actually lock
the doors. Since I now have the 'new and improved' actuators, I guess
I'll just igore the clicking noise. Thanks to all of you who gave me
suggestions.