Integra based on Civic or Accord platform?
Lil D
I'm confused with this... Is the current integra based on a civic or
accord platform? or is it tottally separate now? I always thought the
2nd gen was based on the civic, but I finally realized that the 1st gen
looks so much like the accord hbk... Also, is the CL based on the accord?
so many things to think about, man , my head is spinning! And if anyone
else knows if any other hondas share each others platforms, it would be
helpful.
I don't want to come off as being completely ignorant, so I'll start off
the list with Odessesy = Accord.
lil d
ligh...@ix.netcom.com
Well the Integra is an Integra. I would say it's more like an accord.
If you look at the Japanese Integra, it looks just like the new Accord
(well the front that is). But the integra is a car on it's own like a
CL, Accord, Civic, etc... but if you want it to be based on a Honda,
it would be an accord. If you look at the 3rd Gen Integra, you'll
notice the interior is much like the older accord..
Dennis Z Kuo
ligh...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
: Well the Integra is an Integra. I would say it's more like an accord.
Actually, the Integra is based on the Civic--always on the Civic platform
that was introduced two years before the Integra models. For example, my
'88 Integra is based on the Civic that was produced from '84 to '87. I know
my Integra's interior looks remarkably like the '86-'89 Accords, was
priced like Accords of the time, and feels more substantial than Civics
of similar age, but the platform is derived from the Civic.
The Odyssey and the CL are based on the Accord platform.
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On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 05:04:56 GMT, ligh...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
The Integra is based off of the Civic chassis.
You can see some similarities with the rear end, bumper, rocker
panels, and such. Although it's not exact, it's similar.
I think the CL is based off the Accord?
>Well the Integra is an Integra. I would say it's more like an accord.
>If you look at the Japanese Integra, it looks just like the new Accord
>(well the front that is). But the integra is a car on it's own like a
>CL, Accord, Civic, etc... but if you want it to be based on a Honda,
>it would be an accord. If you look at the 3rd Gen Integra, you'll
>notice the interior is much like the older accord..
>
>On 28 Dec 1996 04:15:45 GMT, dy...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lil D) wrote:
>
>>I'm confused with this... Is the current integra based on a civic or
>>accord platform? or is it tottally separate now? I always thought the
>>2nd gen was based on the civic, but I finally realized that the 1st gen
>>looks so much like the accord hbk... Also, is the CL based on the accord?
>>so many things to think about, man , my head is spinning! And if anyone
>>else knows if any other hondas share each others platforms, it would be
>>helpful.
>>I don't want to come off as being completely ignorant, so I'll start off
>>the list with Odessesy = Accord.
>>
>>lil d
>
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Adam Frix
In article <5a26th$9...@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu>, dy...@acsu.buffalo.edu
(Lil D) wrote:
> I'm confused with this... Is the current integra based on a civic or
> accord platform?
The Integra is, and always has been, based very heavily on the Civic platform.
It's interesting to note that whenever Honda has changed the Civic over to
a new platform, the Integra always hung on an extra year on the older
platform before going over to the newer one.
The exhaust. Always look to the exhaust. That's a quick and dirty clue
as to which Civic platform any given Integra is sharing. They will always
share the location of the tailpipe.
Aloha,
--Adam--
GKnighton
All previous and current (1996) Integra models are based on the Civic
platform.
I don't know about any re-designed models based on the Accord platform.
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.
Chris Capowski
(ligh...@ix.netcom.com) writes:
> Well the Integra is an Integra. I would say it's more like an accord.
> If you look at the Japanese Integra, it looks just like the new Accord
> (well the front that is). But the integra is a car on it's own like a
> CL, Accord, Civic, etc... but if you want it to be based on a Honda,
> it would be an accord. If you look at the 3rd Gen Integra, you'll
> notice the interior is much like the older accord..
wrong, wrong, wrong.
The Integra has always been built on the Civic chassis, and is usually a
couple of years behind. The 93 Integra uses the chassis of the 88-91
Civic, the 94 Integra uses the 92-95 Civic chassis etc.
We all know the Oddysee is based on the Accord chassis.
Not sure about other Acuras however.
--
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Motorsport Club of Ottawa I can race a street car on the track.
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NetProd
Adam is correct. The Integra has always been Civic-based, although some c
levr acaging makes t look bigger,at least from the utside. Interesting to
note, he sold-only-in-Canada 1.6CL Acura is based on the latest Civic.
-- Sean, in Regina
Pac2b
Hi,
The integra has much, much more in common with the civic than the accord.
Most of the drivetrain specs (wheelbase, front/rear track, etc.) are the
same as the civic. Also they share some suspension and drivetrain
components.
My del Sol VTEC (not the Si) which is based loosely on the civic shares a
lot of drivetrain and suspension components with the integra GS-R.
Bottom line: the integra is a up-scale, sporty civic.
Adam Frix
In article <19961228195...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, pa...@aol.com
(Pac2b) wrote:
> Bottom line: the integra is a up-scale, sporty civic.
Which is definitely a good thing, IMHO.
I just wish, due to the dealer situation here in town, that Honda sold a
Civic version of the GS-R. Using the Acura dealers here in town for *any*
service is not an option for me.
Aloha,
--Adam--
Chris Capowski
NetProd
Pac2b
Hi,
The integra has much, much more in common with the civic than the accord.
Most of the drivetrain specs (wheelbase, front/rear track, etc.) are the
same as the civic. Also they share some suspension and drivetrain
components.
My del Sol VTEC (not the Si) which is based loosely on the civic shares a
lot of drivetrain and suspension components with the integra GS-R.
Bottom line: the integra is a up-scale, sporty civic.
George Macdonald
Actually the original Integra was basically a hatchback variant of the
Prelude. Whether that's a different "platform", I've seen articles
which mention that all Hondas, even the Legend use the same basic
"platform". The Civic has never had a twin-cam engine and only the
EX/Si have had multi-port FI. Another major difference, which is very
apparent when driving, is the equal length half-shafts which have never
been used on the Civic - I have never owned an Accord so don't know if
they've ever appeared there either.
As for driving feel, the Integra has none of that "buggy" short wheel
base feel to it that the Civic has.
I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows if this new Integra 1.6EL,
currently available in Canada, is more Civic-like, i.e. SOHC? and
unequal length half-shafts?
Rgds, George
Adam Frix
> Actually the original Integra was basically a hatchback variant of the
> Prelude.
Nope. Civic-based. Always was, still is.
> I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows if this new Integra 1.6EL,
> currently available in Canada, is more Civic-like, i.e. SOHC? and
> unequal length half-shafts?
The Canadian Acura 1.6EL is the same car as the US Civic EX.
Aloha,
--Adam--
Dennis Z Kuo
Adam Frix (7072...@compuserve.com) wrote:
: I just wish, due to the dealer situation here in town, that Honda sold a
: Civic version of the GS-R. Using the Acura dealers here in town for *any*
: service is not an option for me.
Can't Honda dealers service Acuras just as well? I remember seeing a
sign in a Honda shop in Massachusetts saying as such, probably because
the nearest Acura dealer was 50 miles away.
James Zimmerman
> Can't Honda dealers service Acura's?
Sure, and vice-versa. I know the last time I was in the local Acura
Service Department there were more Honda's in there being worked on than
Acura's! And it wasn't a distance factor, either, as the Honda dealer is
located right nearby. However, the local Honda dealers reputation for
poor service was widely known ...
jZ
Adam Frix
In article <5agdcf$e...@netnews.upenn.edu>, ku...@mail.med.upenn.edu (Dennis
Z Kuo) wrote:
> Adam Frix (7072...@compuserve.com) wrote:
> : I just wish, due to the dealer situation here in town, that Honda sold a
> : Civic version of the GS-R. Using the Acura dealers here in town for *any*
> : service is not an option for me.
>
> Can't Honda dealers service Acuras just as well?
I've never asked. Can they? Hmmmmmmm.
Is anyone out there using a Honda dealer for servicing an Acura? Or the
other way around?
Aloha,
--Adam--
wrobi...@aol.com
In article <5agu7f$15...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, HAH...@prodigy.com
(James Zimmerman) writes:
>Sure, and vice-versa. I know the last time I was in the local Acura
>Service Department there were more Honda's in there being worked on than
>Acura's! And it wasn't a distance factor, either, as the Honda dealer is
>located right nearby. However, the local Honda dealers reputation for
>poor service was widely known ...
The Honda dealer in Corpus Christi does svc Acura's (as the closest Acura
dealer is three hours away), while Eagle Acura in Houston refuses to svc
anything but Acura.
Jim Robinette
WRobi...@aol.com
Jeremy
James Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > Can't Honda dealers service Acura's?
>
> Sure, and vice-versa. I know the last time I was in the local Acura
> Service Department there were more Honda's in there being worked on than
> Acura's! And it wasn't a distance factor, either, as the Honda dealer is
> located right nearby. However, the local Honda dealers reputation for
> poor service was widely known ...
I've been to 3 different Honda dealers and had poor service at all
three- this is my biggest concern with buying a Honda. But can Acura
dealers perform Honda warranty work?
Adam Frix
> I've been to 3 different Honda dealers and had poor service at all
> three- this is my biggest concern with buying a Honda.
Must be your area. As with anything, there are good and there are bad.
But what's important is what happens when you get *beyond* the dealer.
Even the best dealer can't make good something that Honda knows full well
they screwed up from the beginning.
And that's where Honda shines. They take full responsibility for their
mistakes.
Aloha,
--Adam--
Dave Ingland
dy...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lil D) wrote:
>I'm confused with this... Is the current integra based on a civic or
>accord platform? or is it tottally separate now? I always thought the
>2nd gen was based on the civic, but I finally realized that the 1st gen
>looks so much like the accord hbk... Also, is the CL based on the accord?
>so many things to think about, man , my head is spinning! And if anyone
>else knows if any other hondas share each others platforms, it would be
>helpful.
>I don't want to come off as being completely ignorant, so I'll start off
>the list with Odessesy = Accord.
>lil d
As far as I know, the only Acura to share a chassis with a Honda was
the 1st generation Integra, which was based on the Honda Civic chasis.
After that, I believe it went to its own chassis and it has been that
way ever since.
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George Macdonald
Dave Ingland wrote:
>
> dy...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Lil D) wrote:
>
> >I'm confused with this... Is the current integra based on a civic or
> >accord platform? or is it tottally separate now? I always thought the
> >2nd gen was based on the civic, but I finally realized that the 1st gen
> >looks so much like the accord hbk... Also, is the CL based on the accord?
> >so many things to think about, man , my head is spinning! And if anyone
> >else knows if any other hondas share each others platforms, it would be
> >helpful.
> >I don't want to come off as being completely ignorant, so I'll start off
> >the list with Odessesy = Accord.
>
> >lil d
>
> As far as I know, the only Acura to share a chassis with a Honda was
> the 1st generation Integra, which was based on the Honda Civic chasis.
When you say chassis do you mean floor-pan and suspension? The 1st
Integras had some common parts with the Civic but I don't think the rear
axle/suspension bears any comparison. The Integra had a solid rear axle
with Panhard rod and integral anti-roll bar.
Rgds, George
Michael Hartell
I believe the current Integra is bassed on the Civic Platform.
There has been some talk about the 98 integras being built on the
accord platform.
I have been an acura integra owner now for 9 years. I have had a
first generation and a 2nd generation model. For those last 9 years i
have been bringing my integra to a Honda dealer for service. I bought
my first one there and they do excellent work. They wouldnt be
qualified to do a warranty repair but for routine maint and out of
warranty work they do just fine.
Michael