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Brendan

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Feb 15, 2006, 10:39:40 PM2/15/06
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Hi,
66 mustang...Can I remove the ignition switch without the key (keys are
lost) as I am having trouble. I have a new tumbler with keys and switch
assembley but cant seem to twist the assembly out from behind the
dash.? Avoiding drilling it out but maybe I have to.

Spike

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Feb 15, 2006, 11:48:32 PM2/15/06
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On 15 Feb 2006 19:39:40 -0800, "Brendan" <flam...@rager.com.au>
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You should not have to drill out anything. Have to check, but I
believe it's a lot easier than that...
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Spike
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Ray or Bobbi Adams

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Feb 16, 2006, 8:50:15 AM2/16/06
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Donty ou just remove bezel.? I know you have to a small pin or something in
to remove the assemble and you need key for that.

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Blue Mesteno

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Feb 16, 2006, 12:12:30 PM2/16/06
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"Ray or Bobbi Adams" <rad...@ftc-i.net> wrote in message
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> Donty ou just remove bezel.? I know you have to a small pin or something
> in
> to remove the assemble and you need key for that.

No, the OP is correct. The bezel just holds in the ignition switch "module"
to the car. The key barrel can't be removed from the ignition switch
"module" without the key. They are two separate pieces that are combined.

To re-key a classic, you have to have the original key for the ignition. Not
for the other locks obviously, but specifically for the ignition.
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Spike

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Feb 16, 2006, 2:47:27 PM2/16/06
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On 15 Feb 2006 19:39:40 -0800, "Brendan" <flam...@rager.com.au>
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>Hi,

I just went through both Chilton and Haynes manuals and essentially,
it says to remove the cyl you have to insert the key, turn it, and
slip a wire into the hole....

Then, to replace the switch, it says the same thing, followed by...

...then press on the rear of the switch and rotate the switch 1/8 turn
counter clockwise. Remove the bezel, switch and spacer. Next, remove
the nut from the back of the switch. Remove the accessory and gauge
feed wires from the accessory terminal. Pull the insulated plug from
the rear of the switch. Follow reverse order to install the new
switch.

If you are replacing the switch and cylinder, then destruction of the
old is not important. It seems I recall a large screwdriver being
used. Lets see if anyone has any information on that before going
with it. ANYONE?

Fred V.

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Feb 16, 2006, 7:16:31 PM2/16/06
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I thought the thieves used a slide hammer? Then they put a big screwdriver
in to start the car?
Fred

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Spike

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Feb 16, 2006, 9:32:07 PM2/16/06
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Easier to jerk a couple of wires.

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:16:31 GMT, "Fred V." <fre...@sbcglobal.net>
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kenG2

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Feb 16, 2006, 10:36:38 PM2/16/06
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You need the correct key and a paper clip wire to stick in the little hole
while in acc..,however the theives use a slide hammer equipped with a
tapered screw in the keyhole and then a screwdriver,,Seems like they had no
problem everytime they attempted(and failed) to steal my mustang with the
transmission lock.
Ken

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Mark C.

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Feb 16, 2006, 10:49:09 PM2/16/06
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Then, to replace the switch, it says the same thing, followed by...

...then press on the rear of the switch and rotate the switch 1/8 turn
counter clockwise. Remove the bezel, switch and spacer. Next, remove
the nut from the back of the switch. Remove the accessory and gauge
feed wires from the accessory terminal. Pull the insulated plug from
the rear of the switch. Follow reverse order to install the new
switch.

If you are replacing the switch and cylinder, then destruction of the
old is not important. It seems I recall a large screwdriver being
used. Lets see if anyone has any information on that before going
with it. ANYONE?
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Spike


Yes, You may end up shearing the index pin on the bezel. If that happens new
ones are available for about 15 bucks.

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Mark
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Big Al

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Feb 16, 2006, 11:35:37 PM2/16/06
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"kenG2" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> You need the correct key and a paper clip wire to stick in the little hole
> while in acc..,however the theives use a slide hammer equipped with a
> tapered screw in the keyhole and then a screwdriver,,Seems like they had
no
> problem everytime they attempted(and failed) to steal my mustang with the
> transmission lock.
> Ken

Without the key on an old car like that you can pick the lock and avoid a
lot of trouble. I'm no locksmith but I've done it lots of times.

Al


Mark C.

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Feb 17, 2006, 12:00:31 AM2/17/06
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> Without the key on an old car like that you can pick the lock and avoid a
> lot of trouble. I'm no locksmith but I've done it lots of times.
>
> Al


Are you a thief?

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Mark
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Spike

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Feb 17, 2006, 1:47:15 PM2/17/06
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On 15 Feb 2006 19:39:40 -0800, "Brendan" <flam...@rager.com.au>
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>Hi,

Here is a possible alternative.... contact a locksmith. My dad seems
to recall that they can cut a key with just enough on it to turn the
cylinder, and it would only be a couple of bucks, kronor, Deutsche,
Euros, lira, pesos, escudos, shillings, or whatever
: 0 ) Don't even need a key for a pattern.

Brendan

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Feb 19, 2006, 10:25:53 PM2/19/06
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Thanks for the info Spike and others. I will try a locksmith.
Brendan

KJ.Kate

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Feb 24, 2006, 10:11:10 PM2/24/06
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"Spike" <j...@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
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: Easier to jerk a couple of wires.

No... no it isn't.
Three twists to screw it in
One - MAYBE two yanks on the slide and POW you are gone.

Provided the SOB starts right up and runs.

KJK

KJ.Kate

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Feb 24, 2006, 10:14:06 PM2/24/06
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"Big Al" <sa...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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: "kenG2" <ke...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On some of the older models, if the ignition is well worn you can slide the
key in and out rapidly while putting forward force on the key (as in turning
it on to start it) and with some blind luck you may hit just the right spot
and it will turn BUT this is much more common in older GM vehicles than in
Fords. In older GMs it was pretty easy much of the time.

KJK
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KJ.Kate

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Feb 24, 2006, 10:15:54 PM2/24/06
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"Brendan" <flam...@rager.com.au> wrote in message
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: Thanks for the info Spike and others. I will try a locksmith.
: Brendan

Hmph!
Shoulda done that in the first place

KJK


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Dec 20, 2017, 7:00:52 PM12/20/17
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2006 at 9:39:40 PM UTC-6, Brendan wrote:
> Hi,
> I own a 66 mustang but we did not get the keys when we bought it and I was wondering what the easiest way to get the key cylinder out without the key was.
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