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69 Mach 1 Rear Suspension

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Steven J. Ovens

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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How can I tell if my 69 Mach 1 came with HD rear suspension?
Steve

Bill S.

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Feb 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/22/99
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Check for staggered rear shocks, one shock mounts before the rear axle,
the other behind it.......That will tell you whether or not you have a
standard rear suspension, or a heavey duty one.


Hope this is helpful.

Yours In Fords,

Bill S.

JBurke4269

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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I may be wromg but I thought all mach 1 's had the competion suspension and the
staggered shocks are for the Boss 302 , Boss 429 and 428 CJ eguipped cars.
I may be wrong but ......... oh well.

Stuart & Janet

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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That's right. I think you could get staggered shocks with a big block 4 gear
car though. Base Mach's had beefier sway bars and 14x7 rims. Base motor was
351W 2V.Most of the rest was scoops, stripes, hood pins and deluxe interior.
Even the spoilers and slats didn't come about till the Boss 302 debuted .
StuK


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Bill S.

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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Well, yes and no,

The staggered rear shocks were an option, unless you ordered a big block
with a four speed transmission, however, the base motor was still the "F" Code
302 2V, regardless of what is seen in aftermarket print publications.... I have
a cousin in Woodriver,Ill with a 69 Mach I parts car(smashed in the rear,
almost to the rear of the doors), with the following codes on his door
datatag(original to the car, as the rest of the car is/was all original):
VIN: 9F02F133799

The VIN breaksdown as follows:
9= 1969 Model Year
F=Dearborn Assembly Plant
02=Fastback Body Style
F=302 2V
133799=33798 car off the assembly line for the 1969 model year( Ford started
with 100001)

Door Datatag

Body:63C-2 Door Fastback-Mach I
Color:M-Wimbledon White
Trim:3D-Red Interior
Date:26L-November 26th, 1968
DSO:41- Chicago
Axle:9-3:25:1 open rear end
Trans:6-C4 Automatic


The proof is with the car, nothing more, nothing less. I myself have never to
the best of my memory, seen another 69 Mach I with the "F" Code 302 2V, but
then again, I was not really looking either.......

Hope this is helpful.


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

PS: An interesting side note, even though the Mach 1 came standard with hood
pins, they could be optioned out for a $6.98 credit, for those who did not want
to bother with them.

Pony428

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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Bill wins the the double jeporady question...standard for the '69 as per
literature and some cars that I have seen were the 302 4v engines and then
after production came the push for 351 2v Windsors. I also believe that the
chrome Mach GT style wheels were only 14 x 6 inchers. Staggered rear shocks on
the big block 4 spd and all Boss beasts. I am not sure if a 4v 351 stick car
got the staggered or not.
'70 Machs had 351 engines ( both windsor and clevelands) in the 2v config as
standard issue.

num...@hotmail.com

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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In article <19990223132549...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
staggered shocks didn't come on the 390 equipped Mach 1,perhaps just the
428s'?
mike
98 Cobra
69 Mach 1 S code
95 Explorer

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Bill S.

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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Staggered rear shocks were only standard when you ordered any flavor of
the 428, with the 4spd transmission. It was optional(read this as you
could order it) for every other Mach I/Mustang for the 1969 model year,
under the heavy duty suspension upgrade...
Also, for further clarification to Pony428's statement about the 302
4V being the standard engine, this is half true, as the 302 was the
standard engine, but with the 2V carb(remember "F" code here)....


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

PS: I'm out of here for the evening, may log in from home to check email
later...

Stuart & Janet

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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Yeah, I'm getting mixed up with my '70 a little bit.
But it's cool your Cousin's car was built on my birthday! I was 5! StuK

Bill S. wrote in message <36D29F75...@parsippany.sgi.com>...

>Yours in Fords,
>
>Bill S.
>

Stuart & Janet

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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I forgot about the GT wheel option in '69. In '70 they widened the wheels
and used those cool looking hubcaps that imitated mags. Biggest problem was
that the uninitiated tirebusters used to impact gun off the fake lugnuts!!!
Three of mine were toast. I took the centres out and installed them on set
of American Racing 200S wheels. That and the Grabber Orange paint certainly
made it looked ready for a Trans-Am race. I should have painted 15 on the
side. stuK

Pony428

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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My mistake Bill, I meant the 2v 302 engine and inadverantly put 4v. Too much
Mountain Dew and not enough sleep.
Hey, think that those two could be related?

Bill S.

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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Gee, I don't know, last week, I did not sleep between Wednesday evening and
Saturday morning( family member in hospital), I must have drank at least 8-13
Duncan Donut bigone coffees each day..... By Saturday night at 6pm, I was
finally asleep, and didn't wake up again until 1pm Sunday afternoon........So, I
do know where your coming from......


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

Kathy and Erich Coiner

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Feb 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/27/99
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Hey Bill,

Could you ask your cousin a couple of questions about his parts car?
I have a 3D interior too and I have never seen another live example.
Actually mine is a 3DA interior.
On to my questions:

Is the dash pad red or black?
Did the carpet have 4 vinyl floor inserts?
What color are they?
My car is red carpet with 1 red insert for the driver. All the evidence I
found removing the interior says the carpet in my car is original.

Also, would he be willing to sell some parts from the interior?
I would like to buy the plastic trim pieces that go on the inside of the A
pillar (next to the edge of the windshield)
Also the little corner trim pieces that go at the extreme rear of the rear
windows. Mine are completely crumbling from the sun.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Erich

>Yours in Fords,
>
>Bill S.
>

GMacDoug1

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Speaking from experience 25 years ago when I and a buddy had dualing 428 CJ 69
Mach 1's- both with shaker hoods. Mine was an automatic with 3:25 9 inch rear
and had non-staggered shocks. His was a 4 speed with the drag pack and SCJ
motor, 3:91 rear, and it had the staggered shocks. I converted mine to
staggered shocks when I put on the set of "Ansen Ground Grabbers".
.....................
'91 Mustang GT 5.0 (mild mods)
'70 VW Bug (modified 1776cc motor)
'97 Reinell 20 ft openbow 5.7 Mercruiser (stock for now)
'87 Itasca RV 460 (stock for now)

Bill S.

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
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Thats correct then, as the staggered rear shocks were supposed to help
handle the sudden axle windup caused by the 4spd's...


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

David Marquardt

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Feb 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/28/99
to Steven J. Ovens
The '69 Mach I came with what Ford called the "Sport handling package"
it was not a HD suspension. I ordered mine with that option and the
shocks are not staggered. I installed HD shocks and modified the
springs to tighten up the rear. With the mods the rear is 1 3/4" lower
and has a 3/4" total travel. Additional information the front ball
joints must be replaced. From the factory they have a .275 tolerance,
which is 1/4 inch, which causes bad vibration on high speed turns.

Dave Marquardt
'84 Cougar
'69 Mach I

Bill S.

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Hey Erich,

The dashpad is black, the carpets have all four vinyl inserts(red
inserts), and the interior trim pieces are in the same shape as yours. Check
around, somebody must have a decent set. Remember, you can always paint them to
match......

Yours In Fords,

Bill S.

> >Yours in Fords,
> >
> >Bill S.
> >

Erich Coiner

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Thank you Bill,

Just for clarification, the carpet was red with 4 red inserts?
Do you think the Black Dash is original or replaced with the Ford
service part? The reason I ask is because my Pad is black with a really
poor flaking Red paint job. I assume that the previous owner replaced
the pad. The fact that 3 out of 4 screws were missing from the pad
helps convince me it was replaced :). I assumed that the correct color
is supposed to be red because the owner went to the trouble of painting
it. It would have been much easier to leave it black if that were
correct.

Erich

Bill S.

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Hey Erich,

As far as he can tell, the carpet is original, as is the dashpad. Not all Mach
I dashpade were color keyed, as Ford sometimes did make line listakes that just were
not caught.

Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

Brent Peterson

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Mar 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/1/99
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Erich Coiner wrote:
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> Thank you Bill,
>
> Just for clarification, the carpet was red with 4 red inserts?
> Do you think the Black Dash is original or replaced with the Ford
> service part? The reason I ask is because my Pad is black with a really
> poor flaking Red paint job. I assume that the previous owner replaced
> the pad. The fact that 3 out of 4 screws were missing from the pad
> helps convince me it was replaced :). I assumed that the correct color
> is supposed to be red because the owner went to the trouble of painting
> it. It would have been much easier to leave it black if that were
> correct.

1969 dash pads for replacement came black PTM (Paint to match)

That is what I remember from my reading years ago....

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