Racing on street... 2 dead/3injured
seve...@my-deja.com
www.seattletimes.com
Just read it and don't make excuses for it... that's my only comment.
Steve
91 Mustang 5.0 notch (for sale)
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Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
by Nancy Montgomery
Seattle Times Snohomish County bureau
Whose car was hottest?
Jeromy Wayman and Dustin Harwood, both 18-year-olds from Lake Stevens
and both owners of Acura Integras, decided to find out.
Both cars headed out of a minimart parking lot east of Everett where
they'd stopped during an idle afternoon Wednesday. A little after 5
p.m., the cars turned south on to 103rd Avenue Southeast, a narrow,
hilly, two-lane road just south of Lake Stevens, where the posted speed
limit is 30 mph and residents often complain about cars driving 45 mph.
"It was `My car is better than yours,' " said Lt. Walt Fisch of the
State Patrol. "It was some ego thing."
Harwood was in the lead as the race began. But he was minus one
passenger. In the parking lot, Charlianna Caw, 15, had switched from
Harwood's car to Wayman's.
"She wanted to see how good his car was," Fisch said. "There was some
bumper tag, and the race was on."
Charges possible
The contest lasted a minute or less. It ended in Wayman's and Caw's
deaths, and serious injuries to Tim Levens, 17, who was riding in the
back of Wayman's car. A Lake Stevens mother and daughter whose car
happened into their path also were injured.
Harwood may face serious criminal charges, from reckless driving to
vehicular homicide, authorities said yesterday.
Witnesses said that as the two cars raced, Wayman pulled parallel with
Harwood, driving between 60 and 70 mph in the oncoming lane of traffic.
At the crest of a hill, Wayman's car slammed head-on into a Mazda in
which Donnette Larsson and her daughter, Tasha, were riding, heading
north, authorities said. Harwood's car, in the correct lane, was
unscathed.
"There was absolutely no forewarning," Fisch said. "They couldn't see
over the crest."
The collision, at an estimated force of at least 100 mph, spun
Larsson's car around. But because the passenger compartment was not
penetrated and both Larssons were wearing seat belts, they did not
suffer serious injuries. Donnette Larsson, 41, underwent ankle surgery
at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle. Tasha Larsson, 17, was in
stable condition at Providence General Medical Center in Everett and
was expected to be released last night, said her father, Michael
Larsson.
"This whole thing could have been avoided," Larsson said angrily last
night.
The collision sent Wayman's car spinning up onto a bank, where it
rolled over. Wayman died at the scene of neck trauma and a spinal-cord
injury, according to the Snohomish County Medical Examiner's Office.
Caw died less than two hours later at Harborview of internal injuries.
Levens was in serious condition yesterday at Providence. His parents
asked hospital authorities to release no further information.
Return to scene
After the collision, Harwood and his passenger, Joshua Smith, 17,
started to leave, Fisch said, but thought better of it and returned.
Smith stayed at the scene; Harwood drove his car, which had not been
involved in the collision, home. He got a ride back to the scene.
"We talked to him; he went and got his car and brought it back," Fisch
said. "I think that was his primary concern, his car."
Fisch said Harwood "went ballistic" when told the State Patrol was
going to impound his car. "Meanwhile, three people have to go the
hospital and one person is covered in a blanket on the side of the
road," Fisch said.
Fisch said the State Patrol's investigation would continue for about
four more weeks. Harwood was not intoxicated, and no illegal substances
were found in the cars, Fisch said.
When the investigation is complete, the State Patrol will forward its
information to Snohomish County prosecutors.
Most of the teens involved in the crash attended Lake Stevens Senior
High School in the past but had not graduated.
Caw withdrew during her freshman year in January 1998, informing school
officials she would be home-schooled, said Lake Stevens Principal John
Gebert. She had been living in Everett, according to the Snohomish
County medical examiner.
Wayman withdrew when he was in 10th grade in May 1998; Levens also left
in 10th grade, in February 1998. He now lives in Graham, Pierce County.
Harwood withdrew his junior year, in May 1998, telling administrators
that he would enroll in school in Everett. But it's unclear whether he
did.
Smith, the passenger in Harwood's car, never attended Lake Stevens High
School, Gebert said.
Tasha Larsson transferred from Lake Stevens to Prove Alternative High
in Everett this past year, Gebert said.
Neither Caw's nor Harwood's parents could be reached for comment.
David and Lorrain Wayman of Lake Stevens declined comment yesterday,
saying they were too distraught to speak about their son's death.
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months ago when I got caught doing 120 by my girlfriend's dad and I
will NEVER race on the street again. The only thing I would worry
about at the strip is the car I would be racing going out of control.
Anyway, just a little something to go along.
Chris Alley
89 LX 5.0
Lynn
I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track. IMHO
that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty much
an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about some
dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime I turn
on my TV and the news is on.
Just my 2 cents
--
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Lilfilly93
Similar to what happened here 2 weeks ago.A 17 year old out in his 99
Anniversary Edition Mustang,9 days old,a graduation present took the last drive
of his life.He and 2 passengers were out at 2:30 am on a school night cruising
around.The driver was speeding and bumped an 18 wheeler at over 75 MPH.He never
slowed down,instead decided to run the EZPASS as fast as he could.He hit the
toll bridge abutement at an estimated speed of over 100MPH.The car flew up in
the air,hit the top of the toll plaza,and skidded about a 1/4 mile.The driver
died instantly,as did the boy in the back who wasn't wearing a seatbelt and got
ejected.The kid in the passenger seat survived,so far,with massive head
injuries.The mustang looks like someone put it through a shredder.The only way
you can tell it's a stang is the pony centercap on the one wheel that's left on
the car.In the crumpled up thing that used to be the hood,you can see a black
stripe on the hood.I didn't want to look any closer.
Lil
chris
>
> Steve,
>
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
> all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track. IMHO
> that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty much
> an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about some
> dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime I turn
> on my TV and the news is on.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> --
> Lynn (Houston TX)
Lynn,
i agree that most people in this newsgroup are fully aware of the
conseqences of street racing, but there are some idiots that think they
can speed all around residential streets and that no one will jump out
in front of them and that no other cars will get in the way... i think
that those assholes need to read something like that... i doubt it will
make a huge difference for anyone but it still will leave that little
shadow of doubt in their brains that may make them think twice about
street racing...
see ya,
chris
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"Lynn" <pattersonl"NOSPAM"@ruska.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like
that? We
> all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track.
IMHO
> that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty
much
> an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about
some
> dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime
I turn
> on my TV and the news is on.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> --
> Lynn (Houston TX)
Although we all "should" know the dangers of street racing and racing
at the track, you obviously haven't read the threads where some
RAMFM'ers are very adamant about racing on the street. And, you get a
demographic in a Mustang group that is just beginning to drive, or has
and is looking for their first car that they can drive around in
unsupervised (and they don't realize they're not invincible).
As far as bringing newsgroup "morale" down, you can stop reading at any
time, as you can change the channel, or pull the plug on getting TV and
news altogether. The world isn't a shiny happy place, and if we don't
learn from our own mistakes, and those of others, we're doomed to
repeat those mistakes.
Be careful, you might hear me say that 50% of all marriages end in
divorce too... whoops, just did it.
On the other hand, I started a thread on what very well may have been
one of the most automotively successful days in MYYSTANG's (Curt) life,
yet I guarantee this thread will get more response than that one did.
As a matter of fact, I don't recall seeing your congrat's to Curt for
his triumph.
Congrat's Curt! Keep it on the track.
Steve
<slips and falls off the "re:soapbox")
Helmut Roner
ever since my car was wrecked). I prefer to live a life that I can enjoy with
friends and not have my car taken for any reason. NOW, I just recently heard
that Fayetteville police will take a person's car even if they aren't racing
but are in attendance of a street race. I'll excercise my patience and wait
until my car get out of the shop. When it does I'm taking a long cruise around
NC to enjoy it. Anyone who wants to test me will be disappointed when I ignore
them.
Helmut Roner
Fayetteville/Spring Lake, North Carolina
http://members.aol.com/WARHORS302/index.html
88 Mustang GT (wrecked thanks to a drunk driver) Looking for 87-93 4
cyl./5speed notchback in NC for swap project.
Ted
I'm in total agreement. As the father of two young daughters I have caught a
group of kids repeatedly racing around our block. One day as I heard them
squeeling their tires on the other side of the block. I strolled out to the
middle of my street and stood their. Once they stopped and I confronted
them, they got not only an earful but I made sure I was spitting on them
while giving them the riot act. This has pretty well cured the problem and
hasn't happened again as of yet in over a year.
Ted
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pattersonl"NOSPAM"@ruska.com says...
>
>Steve,
>
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
>all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track. IMHO
>that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty much
>an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about some
>dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime I turn
>on my TV and the news is on.
>
>Just my 2 cents
>--
>Lynn (Houston TX)
>
generlized statment like "street racing is stupid". Some of us are lucky to be
here having lived through the late teen years and driving. Some of us are that
age now and need to think every now and then when they line up on the street.
--
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"Tonight it ain't right, I'm gonna need me a week.
But I'll be back for you jack and I'll let the machine speak."
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lx50@*ix.netcom.com (WHT50) wrote:
> In article <6uQc3.89697$_m4.7...@news2.giganews.com>,
> pattersonl"NOSPAM"@ruska.com says...
> >
> >
> > I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like
that? We
> >all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track.
IMHO
> >that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are
pretty much
> >an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something
about some
> >dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news
everytime I turn
> >on my TV and the news is on.
> >
> >Just my 2 cents
> >--
> >Lynn (Houston TX)
> >
then a
> generlized statment like "street racing is stupid". Some of us are
lucky to be
> here having lived through the late teen years and driving. Some of us
are that
> age now and need to think every now and then when they line up on the
street.
> --
> Randy
> 1989 LX 5.0
> "Tonight it ain't right, I'm gonna need me a week.
> But I'll be back for you jack and I'll let the machine speak."
> REMOVE * FROM E-MAIL ADDRESS TO RESPOND.
>
>
Not only that, it's an actual article, not just someone's recollection
of what they heard on the news. When I read it, it hit pretty close to
home. That could be since it happened where I grew up. Those were the
same streets I was driving my Buick on when I was 16-18 years old... as
often as I could.
That's about it.
Steve
no comment
Gary H
<pattersonl"NOSPAM"@ruska.com> wrote:
>Steve,
>
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
>all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track. IMHO
>that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty much
>an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about some
>dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime I turn
>on my TV and the news is on.
>
>Just my 2 cents
I think its a reality check Lynn. It shows what can go wrong in
street racing. I've done quite a bit of street racing, but never
something as wild as what these kids did. Racing on a regular 2 lane
road, and crossing over the center, into oncoming traffic? Yikes!
h...@erflink.net
Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
specificity that would warrant posting in the
rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup. While it's nice that you are
trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
rantings. Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
and I'm sure alot of them own cars
You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
rec.autos.misc
rec.autos.sport.misc
alt.autos
Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
real; Your post is off topic.
Gary H
wrote:
>Lynn,
> i agree that most people in this newsgroup are fully aware of the
>conseqences of street racing, but there are some idiots that think they
>can speed all around residential streets and that no one will jump out
>in front of them and that no other cars will get in the way... i think
>that those assholes need to read something like that... i doubt it will
>make a huge difference for anyone but it still will leave that little
>shadow of doubt in their brains that may make them think twice about
>street racing...
>see ya,
>chris
By now everyone knows I sold my '94 Formula 3 weeks ago, and am
looking for a 5.0 Mustang for around $5000. In the past few weeks I
have gone to look at several cars, and I can't believe the way some
people drive. Last Sunday I went to check out a black ex cop Stang.
It was a notchback, black, 5 speed etc. My g-friend went with me, and
we checked it out, then asked for the keys. I acted like a complete
dumbass as always, acting as though I know nothing about Mustangs
except that they are 'fast.' Usually when you do that, owners spew
out so much bullshit, you can learn alot about them and how they treat
their rides. Anyways, this guy gets the keys and we hop on. I'm
shotgun, g-friend in back, this schmuck is driving. We pull out of a
gas station parking lot and he guns it, sending the car sideways
catching rubber through 1st and most of 2nd. He bangs third and
whatever 3rd gear is w/ stock gears, thats how fast we were going. It
felt like about 60 MPH, and this is a narrow residential street, cars
on both sides, and KIDS on the front lawns. This was last Saturday in
New Jersey and it was real nice out, lots of little kids running
around playing all over. My g-friend said something like, "There are
kids here, slow the hell down." I said as matter-of-factly as I
could, "Your not going to impress me with the speed, my friends all
have 11 and 12 second Mustang so this thing won't impress me." He
said he thought I wanted to see how fast the car was, and I said it
felt pretty slow anyways. (which it did) I told him to just drive
normal after that....This guy really pissed me off, and my g-friend
even more so. Its people like him that give everyone a bad name....
Chris Koharik
tragedy that innocent people were involved. One thought though. How did
two high school dropouts acquire Integras? Parents? If so then they are
at least partly to blame.
Just my opinion.
-Chris
-99 GT
Ted
if they both worked part time jobs and both drove 1962 VW Bettles!! They
were obviously of age and the little prick should spend the rest of his life
in jail getting it from the backside from Mike Tyson for harming the
innocent.
My two cents!!
Ted
Chris Koharik wrote in message ...
Dan W
>After the collision, Harwood and his
>passenger, Joshua Smith, 17, started to
>leave, Fisch said, but thought better of it
>and returned. Smith stayed at the scene;
>Harwood drove his car, which had not
>been involved in the collision, home. He
>got a ride back to the scene.
>"We talked to him; he went and got his
>car and brought it back," Fisch said. "I
>think that was his primary concern, his
>car."
>Fisch said Harwood "went ballistic" when
>told the State Patrol was going to
>impound his car.
we were young (and stupid) we also street raced but we didn't do it at 5
pm on city streets on 2 lane roads. Although I building my car to be
streetable I think I will keep the racing on the track.
Dan
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>
>How is this article related to Mustangs???
>Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
>specificity that would warrant posting in the
>rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup. While it's nice that you are
>trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
>articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
>only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
>rantings. Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
>should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
>sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
>that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
>and I'm sure alot of them own cars
>
>You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
>rec.autos.misc
>rec.autos.sport.misc
>alt.autos
>
>Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
>real; Your post is off topic.
>
>
What planet are you from? So your saying you don't see the connection between
street racing and Mustangs? You drive a Civic don't you?
MPowell
<h...@erflink.net> wrote in message
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> How is this article related to Mustangs???
> Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
> specificity that would warrant posting in the
> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup. While it's nice that you are
> trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
> articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
> only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
> rantings. Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
> should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
> sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
> that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
> and I'm sure alot of them own cars
Dude - the podiatrist called. He found your head.
Brian Bertine
>cyl./5speed notchback in NC for swap project.
helmut i know where a 4 cyl notch body is with a full race cage - gutted body -
no engine or trans - solid rust free body and no interior at all (or exterior
trim) - its in raleigh - let me know if you're interested and i'll meet you at
the shop it was worked on one saturday - owner's asking $1500 but he'll take
$900-1000 if i make you out to be a "friend of mine"
b
Brian
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> It seems to me the youth of today hold no value for a human life. <*snip*>
Including their own. Youth today has little respect for themselves let
alone others. This is a big problem IMO.
Joe
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wasted, IMO. If anything it'll make you a bit less complacent the next
time you get behind the wheel.
Joe
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atlanticblue98
to teach respect past a certain age. Discipline also needs to be taught, if
these kids had any discipline, they would have at least finished high
school. I graduated in '97, and its not hard to do. Discipline is getting
me through college. Both should be taught by the parent, and if they are not
the kid will not have a successful future. It all goes back to the family
upbringing. Oh well, I'm done preaching...
--
John
'98 Mustang
3.73 Gears, T5, Walker Catback Exhaust, K&N.
Joe Breitenbach wrote in message <37741E1E...@bellsouth.net>...
>Dan W wrote:
>> It seems to me the youth of today hold no value for a human life.
<*snip*>
>
>Including their own. Youth today has little respect for themselves let
>alone others. This is a big problem IMO.
>
Ted
post for the day you have teenagers.
I promise, you will wonder what you where thinking when you posted this.
atlanticblue98 wrote in message <7l1a8f$4nj$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
Joe Breitenbach
>
> On 25 Jun 1999 22:51:08 GMT, lx50@*ix.netcom.com (WHT50) wrote:
>
> No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
> race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
>
> The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
> actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
> maybe YOU should drive a civic.
Beg pardon, but what's the difference between what they were doing and
street racing? TIA.
Joe
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> >In article <3773fa4e...@news.earthlink.net>, h...@erflink.net says...
> >>
> >>How is this article related to Mustangs???
> >>Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
> >>specificity that would warrant posting in the
> >>rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup. While it's nice that you are
> >>trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
> >>articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
> >>only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
> >>rantings. Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
> >>should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
> >>sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
> >>that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
> >>and I'm sure alot of them own cars
> >>
Joe Breitenbach
Joe
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JD wrote:
>
> Hmmm.
>
> 1) Street racing is pretty stupid to begin with.
>
> 2) Racing using oncomming-traffic lanes is even more idiotic.
>
> Why was everyone susprised at the outcome???
>
>
> 'Kindly keep it Country'
>
> -JD-
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children behave in a certain way. They also need to be fully aware of
what's going on with their kids as much as possible.
Joe
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>
> In article <3773d257....@news.mindspring.com>, bwa...@mindspring.com
> (Chris Alley) writes:
>
> >I have raced on the street 4 times total. The last time I raced was 4
> >months ago when I got caught doing 120 by my girlfriend's dad
>
>
> :()
ROTFF!!
CobraJet
> How is this article related to Mustangs???
> Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
> specificity that would warrant posting in the
> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup.
Haven't been around here much, have you?
While it's nice that you are
> trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
> articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
> only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
> rantings.
I bet you subscribe to Politically Correct Monthly, don't you?
Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
> should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
> sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
> that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
> and I'm sure alot of them own cars
Speaking of rantings.
>
> You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
> rec.autos.misc
> rec.autos.sport.misc
> alt.autos
Well lookee here, Jethro, it's a jenoowine x-spurt! And I do mean spurt.
>
> Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
> real; Your post is off topic.
Yes, I'm sure your clueless incursion has everyone lathered into a
red-eyed frenzy. Think you're the first whack-off that thought to quell
free speech in this group?
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:09:24 GMT, seve...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Below is a story taken from the Seattle Times 6/25/99
> >www.seattletimes.com
> >
> >Just read it and don't make excuses for it... that's my only comment.
Long live REAL street racing. This unfortunate incident doesn't come
close to qualifying as anything but stupidity. That'll teach the boys not
to show off for the girls. Serpents and apples; same story, different era.
Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
> >
> >Steve
> >91 Mustang 5.0 notch (for sale)
> >
> >_________________________________________________
> >Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
..
CobraJet
seev...@aol.com (A Guy Named Steve) wrote:
> CJ wrote:
>
> >In article <3773fa4e...@news.earthlink.net>, nos...@erflink.net wrote:
> >
> >> How is this article related to Mustangs???
> >> Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
> >> specificity that would warrant posting in the
> >> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup.
> >
> > Haven't been around here much, have you?
>
> You're one to talk, as of late. Did you get out early for good behavior? ;)
Naw, they kicked me out 'cuz the guards got tired of the verbal lashing
I dished out to them daily. You could almost see the questions marks appear
over their empty skulls.
>
> >> Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
> >> real; Your post is off topic.
> >
> > Yes, I'm sure your clueless incursion has everyone lathered into a
> >red-eyed frenzy. Think you're the first whack-off that thought to quell
> >free speech in this group?
>
> He was the first today.
>
> > Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
> >
> >> >
> >> >Steve
> >> >91 Mustang 5.0 notch (for sale)
> >> >
> >> >_________________________________________________
> >> >Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
> >..
>
> ^ ^
> Hey CJ, what's up with the 2 periods? there only used to be one. Is this the
> "real" CJ?
Yes yes yes. And I have naught but mere speculation as to the presence
of tandem dots. It's just snake eyes for a Cobra..Jet
How's the Butanic?
>
>
> Steve
> '71 Buick GS 455
> '91 Mustang LX 5.0 coupe (For Sale)
> '93 Splash 4x4
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/SEEverist/index.html">Steve's GS Page</a>
> "I'll add that to my threat collection." Harry Callahan
..
CobraJet
ffud...@aol.comatose (The Modless Marauder) wrote:
> > Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
>
> No shit
Far be it from me to be totally devoid of oratory excrement.
>.........it IS :)
Howdy Samuhell! (Oh dear me, a Freudian shit)
Cobra-asthephoenixrisethsodothigrasptheclouds-Jet
>
>
> Sam(uel)
> '95 GT
..
H. Johnson
No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
maybe YOU should drive a civic.
>In article <3773fa4e...@news.earthlink.net>, h...@erflink.net says...
>>
>>How is this article related to Mustangs???
>>Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
>>specificity that would warrant posting in the
>>rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup. While it's nice that you are
>>trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
>>articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
>>only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
>>rantings. Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
>>should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
>>sure most couples own cars !)? Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
>>that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
>>and I'm sure alot of them own cars
>>
>>You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
>>rec.autos.misc
>>rec.autos.sport.misc
>>alt.autos
>>
>>Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
>>real; Your post is off topic.
>>
>>
>
Corpse
<mpo...@nospamthanksnettaxi.com> wrote:
>
>Dude - the podiatrist called. He found your head.
>
What was his head doing in his shoes??!?
A Guy Named Steve
>How is this article related to Mustangs???
>Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
>specificity that would warrant posting in the
>rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup.
I'm sorry, if we play by your rules, I don't see the necessity of your response
to this post. You also have no Mustang content, except for having used the
word in your reply.
>While it's nice that you are
>trying to protect the world like a big mother hen, the posting of
>articles that are not specific to the newsgroup they are posted in
>only serves to fragment the group into useless collections of
>rantings.
Could you give me an example... waitaminute... you just did. Your reply serves
as just such an example. Of course, nothing like you say may have come of this
intstance, but it has already been shown that you have created just the monster
that you "thought" you were controlling.
Truthfully, I couldn't care less for the two people who died. But, it could be
myself or my family that they took out (or in this case, injured).
>Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so
>should we start posting articles relating to community property (I'm
>sure most couples own cars !)?
Go for it... see where it goes. It could go down as the most informative post
ever to exist in RAMFM. Of course, we don't have a reward for that. That
particular sentence was done in humor (bizarre humor, at that). But, none the
less humor.
>Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear
>that's an important issue for the young'ns you're trying to protect,
>and I'm sure alot of them own cars
I bet some of them are even doing it in their cars <hands to cheeks> "Oh
my!!!"
>You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
>rec.autos.misc
>rec.autos.sport.misc
>alt.autos
You may want to shut up, since we're unmoderated, and you might notice from the
response to this thread, that it sure has taken on a bit of importance here.
Check the numbers... it's had as many replies as any thread in a while.
>Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
>real; Your post is off topic.
No, I'm not all worked up... I have a big shit-eatin' grin on my face, in fact.
But, it's cute how you want to play moderator of an unmoderated group, then
say "let's be real" so as to keep your feelings from being hurt. It's almost
as if you're saying, "please don't say big bad words in my direction for my
opinion."
I'm also assuming you've went through every off topic post and given all the
rest of them the "internet brow-beating" of their lives... or was it just me?
I'm sorry, I don't recognize your name here, but I've been a "self-proclaimed
member" for over 2 years. I post here almost daily, if not several times per
day.
Thanks for your concern, maybe you can chase out those that are sick enough to
post "rice songs" in the newsgroup. I bet they're really really bad people,
huh?
Oh yeah... seve...@my-deja.com and SEEv...@aol.com are the same person so as
not to confuse you.
MPowell
Corpse <Corpse**non-spam**@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:377a1c72...@nntp.ix.netcom.com...
You're right. Brain fart - which one is the "ASS MAN" (now there's a vanity
plate)?
JD
TFrog93
>How is this article related to Mustangs???
Now, THAT piece of idiocy wasn't bad enough, he follows it up with:
In article <377418d1...@news.earthlink.net>, hj...@erflink.net (H.
Johnson) writes:
>
>No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
>race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
>
>The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
>actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
>maybe YOU should drive a civic.
Congratulations.
Your response has to win THE Stupidest Award for the evening.
Stinkin' Earthlinkers. What were the (other) two idiots doing? JUST driving
recklessly (note spelling)? No, they were RACING, which was the whole point of
the article (which most of us actually read, by the way). They were RACING on
the STREET (not in the dirt, not on a track, but on a STREET). Put the two
words together: STREET and RACING. You should come up with the same answer
the rest of us did: "STREET RACING".
Now, if you want to pretend that you have some respectable machines, and that
when you race your imaginary cars, it's somehow different than when two Hondas
race, you're welcome to. But whether you RACE a fictional Barracuda on the
STREET, or two Hondas on the STREET, it's STREET RACING.
dwight
TFrog93
<pattersonl"NOSPAM"@ruska.com> writes:
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
>all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track. IMHO
>that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty much
>an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about some
>dieing when they are street racing.
Disagree, Lynn.
Racin' Jason. Steve's post. There are always these momentary pauses that make
us stop and reflect on this hobby we love so much. Shit happens, and sometimes
it happens to good people. We need to pay attention to things that go wrong,
and make sure it doesn't happen to us.
Besides, there are any number of ramfmers who DO race on the streets, and enjoy
it. Wishing that they didn't won't make them stop. I've done it, myself, and
I know better.
A reminder, once in a while, is very much warranted here.
dwight
TFrog93
MPowell
Joe Breitenbach <jeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:37743EBF...@bellsouth.net...
Rolling On The F*cking Floor?
Mike Pompe
>Parents can only really teach by example; they can't "make" their
>children behave in a certain way.
This is the best thing I've read in a long time. How very true. Anthony, ya
listening to this? (Being a new father and all)
Mike
1991 LX Convertible
<a href="http://members.aol.com/OneQuikV6/gnpage2.html">Mike's Page</a>
H. Johnson
Firstly, a reply to a post does not alter the thread list. They are
usually listed linked to the original article so you know to skip them
if you are not interested in the original post. So, my reply IS NOT
the same as an off topic post.
Secondly, All the flamers to my posts seem to think racing on a narrow
2 lane road with a 30 mph speed limit, near a residential area,
playing bumper tag at more than double the posted speed, racing side
by side (obviously one car in the wrong lane), up the crest of hill is
STREET RACING ! WOW, I'm shocked ! I didn't even think street racers
were that stupid. All the ones I've ever seen take place are late at
night, usually on the weekends, in industrial areas. I guess when you
car is that slow you get a kick out of passing ma and pa on the local
street.
The NHRA and the SCCA give plenty of opportunity to race (legally) in
all regions. But I guess if you think THAT article was about street
racing or any racing for that matter, you would probably be too
embarrassed to actually show up.
For those that questioned the cars I own and that I race: I could care
less. Just post here where you'll be performing your acts of stupidity
so those of us with any intelligence can avoid you. I hope the people
you kill understand.
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:09:24 GMT, seve...@my-deja.com wrote:
>Below is a story taken from the Seattle Times 6/25/99
>www.seattletimes.com
>
>Just read it and don't make excuses for it... that's my only comment.
>
>Steve
>91 Mustang 5.0 notch (for sale)
>
>_________________________________________________
>Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
>
>
Anthony S
>No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
>race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
>
>The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
>actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
>maybe YOU should drive a civic.
That is street racing. And its idiots like you endangering the lives of others
that is out of line. You may think its a blow to you to call it street racing,
but what if your mom and sister are in the next car one of these idiots runs
into? If the moron happens to be driving a classic Mopar does that make it
okay?
'97 Cobra #301
http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/
<a href="http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/index.html">The Cobra Lair</a>
11 months to a new ride ?
Joe Breitenbach
I just asked a simple, polite question of you. If you had the same
courtesy I afforded you, you'd have replied simply and politely in the
manner of the original question.
A lot of us are adults; some of us are not (legally, that is). This
newsgroup, like all others, is for everyone, not just adults. Just a
bit of USENET trivia.
I gave you an opportunity to intelligently discuss the situation, but
you chose to respond with what I will call an unpleasant attitude. For
that, I will stoop to your level: Blow it out your ass, dickwad. And
have a nice day, too.
Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
http://www.tranquilitybase.com/joe
Anthony S
>Joe writes:
>
>>Parents can only really teach by example; they can't "make" their
>>children behave in a certain way.
>
>This is the best thing I've read in a long time. How very true. Anthony, ya
>listening to this? (Being a new father and all)
Actually I've known this to be a fact all my life. Not only is it true as a
parent. Its also true if you have a position of authority in society.
NoOption5L
>How is this article related to Mustangs???
Who cares what brand of cars are mentioned in the article? Street racing is
street racing.
>Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
>specificity that would warrant posting in the rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
>newsgroup.
You don't think any of our NG members have ever been involved in a similiar
situation?
>While it's nice that you are trying to protect the world like a big mother
hen,
If it makes just *one* person stop and think, this post was worthwhile.
>the posting of articles that are not specific to the newsgroup
This article is VERY relevent to this NG.
>they are posted in only serves to fragment the group into useless collections
of >rantings.
You define this article as a "rant"? Please!
>Just as you say 50% of marriages wind up in divorce, so should we start
posting >articles relating to community property (I'm sure most couples own
cars !)?
The article was automotive related and it was posted in an automotive
newsgroup.
Hell, we have entire threads that have nothing to do with Mustangs or even cars
all the time.
>Maybe articles on safe sex, I hear that's an important issue for the young'ns
Got any stories of sex happening in automobiles that you'd like to share?
>you're trying to protect, and I'm sure alot of them own cars.
Steve was just trying to wake some "young'ns" up.
>You may want to post such non-specific topics in:
>rec.autos.misc
>rec.autos.sport.misc
>alt.autos
Again, this article was relevent to this NG. No doubt about it.
>Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me,
Why would you think that?
>but lets be real; Your post is off topic.
Nope! It was spot on.
Patrick
'93 Mustang Cobra
14.18 @ 99.18 with no bolt-ons...yet.
Former original owner of a '87 5 liter 5 speed LX.
14.2 @ 98 stock - 13.8 @ 101 lightly modded.
I'm not brand loyal. If it's fast, I like it.
NoOption5L
>Steve,
> I'm just wondering something. Why do you post something like that? We
>all know the dangers of street racing and even racing at the track.
Speak for yourself. There has been quite a few Mustangers in this newsgroup
that have posted simliar stories. Maybe not with the same tragic ending, but
with themselves and/or others being hurt and their cars being totaled.
>IMHO that ony brings the whole moral on the newsgroup down. We are pretty
>much an upbeat bunch of stangers here so please don't post something about
>some dieing when they are street racing. I hear enough bad news everytime I
>turn on my TV and the news is on.
But, what if this posting happens to wake up/educate one of our own? Would it
then be worth the few minutes it took Steve to post it? I think so....
Anthony S
>I'm sorry I thought this was a group for adults, beg my pardon.
No its for overgrown children like you;).
>Secondly, All the flamers to my posts seem to think racing on a narrow
>2 lane road with a 30 mph speed limit, near a residential area,
>playing bumper tag at more than double the posted speed, racing side
>by side (obviously one car in the wrong lane), up the crest of hill is
>STREET RACING ! WOW, I'm shocked ! I didn't even think street racers
>were that stupid.
It is a street race. And organized street races aren't much of an improvement.
>All the ones I've ever seen take place are late at
>night, usually on the weekends, in industrial areas. I guess when you
>car is that slow you get a kick out of passing ma and pa on the local
>street.
And this makes it all okay in your pathetic feeble mind?
>The NHRA and the SCCA give plenty of opportunity to race (legally) in
>all regions.
Damn skippy, and that's where I do my racing.
>But I guess if you think THAT article was about street
>racing or any racing for that matter, you would probably be too
>embarrassed to actually show up.
And if you think it wasn't street racing, you're an idiot in denial and nothing
more.
>For those that questioned the cars I own and that I race: I could care
>less. Just post here where you'll be performing your acts of stupidity
>so those of us with any intelligence can avoid you. I hope the people
>you kill understand.
You are the only one in this thread professing to perform acts of stupidity.
But since its "in industrial areas" its okay right? Wrong! Its not okay. Its
better than in a residential area, but its still wrong. Leave it at the track.
If you feel the need to race at night (WTF are you doing racing in the dark on
a public road anyway?) away from a track on a road the public has access to,
you have serious problems if you think its okay.
You are the one who is all dicked up, not anyone else. Stop blaming your
ignorance of this fact on others. As a matter of fact, feel free to never post
in this forum again.
A Guy Named Steve
>I'm sorry I thought this was a group for adults, beg my pardon.
What in the world gave you that idea? For having jumped on me for being "off
topic" I would say you've got your own problems reading the newsgroup title.
Nowhere in there does it say anything about adults.
>Firstly, a reply to a post does not alter the thread list. They are
>usually listed linked to the original article so you know to skip them
>if you are not interested in the original post. So, my reply IS NOT
>the same as an off topic post.
Is this a response to my previous response? You went right back to the
original article that I posted (not snipping any of it for brevity) and made
this response. That's pretty messed up for someone who seems to know all about
USENET.
So what I hear you saying is that in your case, they are usually listed linked
to the original article. Do you know that to be true for all cases? What
about for those that delete all previously read posts? What about when someone
changes the thread title part way through because the actual substance has
veered course from the original material?
Your reply is as much of a waste and detriment, if not more, than my original
post. Yet, you feel the need to perpetuate it here. I don't know how long
you've been reading this group, but you're not going to change any minds here,
and you're going to worsen a situation which you earlier described. In fact
that situation most likely would not have existed without your comments. If
you don't know which situation that is, refer back to your response earlier,
since you've altered the chain of thought by going back to the original post,
yet used later ideas that don't fall in line with it.
>Secondly, All the flamers to my posts seem to think racing on a narrow
>2 lane road with a 30 mph speed limit, near a residential area,
>playing bumper tag at more than double the posted speed, racing side
>by side (obviously one car in the wrong lane), up the crest of hill is
>STREET RACING ! WOW, I'm shocked ! I didn't even think street racers
>were that stupid. All the ones I've ever seen take place are late at
>night, usually on the weekends, in industrial areas.
So what you were engaged in was "organized" street racing. The cars in the
article were obviously not as "organized" as you are when you do stupid stuff
like this.
>The NHRA and the SCCA give plenty of opportunity to race (legally) in
>all regions. But I guess if you think THAT article was about street
>racing or any racing for that matter, you would probably be too
>embarrassed to actually show up.
I've got in about 50 runs this year and probably over 70 last year. So,
they're just not organized. It was a "contest of speed" was it not? Being
that contest was between two cars, on a public road, it could very easily be
considered street racing... just not organized street racing.
>For those that questioned the cars I own and that I race: I could care
>less.
I could too.
>Just post here where you'll be performing your acts of stupidity
>so those of us with any intelligence can avoid you.
I now do not know what I find worse; performing acts of stupidity and posting
about it, or just posting stupidly... such as yourself. And, if I understand
what you wrote earlier in your post, you have, yourself, participated in these
same "acts of stupidity" and, as of now... have posted about it. Unless
watching isn't participating, but I'd have a hard time believing you "only like
to watch".
Pot--->Kettle--->Black
>I hope the people
>you kill understand.
Are you admitting that the these contests of speed are stupid and innocent
people could be killed. Have you not either been one of those that have
participated, or at least viewed them happening... It sounds like you're right
in the mix yourself.
Now, although I wasn't one of those previously debating the term "street
racing," if you look at my topic, it says "Racing on street". Is there a
difference between racing on the street and street racing... be it organized or
not?
And, this is the actual headline of the article:
>>Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
I didn't write that.
A Guy Named Steve
>In article <3773fa4e...@news.earthlink.net>, nos...@erflink.net wrote:
>
>> How is this article related to Mustangs???
>> Even if they were driving Mustangs I still wouldn't see the element of
>> specificity that would warrant posting in the
>> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang newsgroup.
>
> Haven't been around here much, have you?
You're one to talk, as of late. Did you get out early for good behavior? ;)
>> Now, I know you're all worked up and wanting to flame me, but lets be
>> real; Your post is off topic.
>
> Yes, I'm sure your clueless incursion has everyone lathered into a
>red-eyed frenzy. Think you're the first whack-off that thought to quell
>free speech in this group?
He was the first today.
> Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
>
>> >
>> >Steve
>> >91 Mustang 5.0 notch (for sale)
>> >
>> >_________________________________________________
>> >Drag-racing crash near Everett kills 2, injures 3
>..
^ ^
Hey CJ, what's up with the 2 periods? there only used to be one. Is this the
"real" CJ?
The Modless Marauder
No shit.........it IS :)
Sam(uel)
'95 GT
Anthony S
> Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
Back from the dead eh? So did you notice my son's name?
CobraJet
asmal...@aol.comramfm (Anthony S) wrote:
> >(CobraJet)
>
> > Cobra-howzatferpreachin-Jet
>
> Back from the dead eh? So did you notice my son's name?
No sirree, Tony. Did you name him Cobra? Fang? Venom?
CobraJet
>
>
> '97 Cobra #301
> http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/index.html">The Cobra Lair</a>
> 11 months to a new ride ?
..
Anthony S
>Newsgroups:
> No sirree, Tony. Did you name him Cobra? Fang? Venom?
Cameron James; CJ for short.
CobraJet
asmal...@aol.comramfm (Anthony S) wrote:
> >(CobraJet)
> >Newsgroups:
>
> > No sirree, Tony. Did you name him Cobra? Fang? Venom?
>
> Cameron James; CJ for short.
Still trying to jockey an heir to my collection, huh? It just won't
work. Besides, when the tyke is old enough to drive, he'll be rodding
hybrid-powered cars and telling you where to stuff your low-tech dinosaur
mod motor. With initials like that, he's bound to be smarter than his old
man (sorry, I couldn't resist. Had to make up for lost time, you know...)
Seriously, a belated congratulations to you and your wife. I have not
even looked in this group since March so I'm sorry I missed the event. Good
luck with the future trials and tribulations. Hint: play endless loops of
V8 engine sounds in his room while he sleeps. Try not to giggle when you
realize his wee-wee can be called Cam shaft.
I have often wondered what it would have been like to have had a son.
The Federal Government, however, would not allow me to procreate. They
were, well, very afraid...
CJ The Elder
>
>
> '97 Cobra #301
> http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/index.html">The Cobra Lair</a>
> 11 months to a new ride ?
..
Helmut Roner
>Date: Fri, 25 June 1999 07:28 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990625192833...@ng-ba1.aol.com>
>
>>Looking for 87-93 4
>>cyl./5speed notchback in NC for swap project.
>
>helmut i know where a 4 cyl notch body is with a full race cage - gutted body
>-
>no engine or trans - solid rust free body and no interior at all (or exterior
>trim) - its in raleigh - let me know if you're interested and i'll meet you
>at
>the shop it was worked on one saturday - owner's asking $1500 but he'll take
>$900-1000 if i make you out to be a "friend of mine"
>
>b
>
>Brian
>'86 GT hatch - 9.13 @ 77mph - 1/8th mile
>K&N, pulleys, 2.73 gears, 5spd, 15 deg timing
>65mm TB, Flowmaster mufflers
No interior.......what about the dash and gauges? Does it have a steering
wheel? What tranny was in it originally? I want to avoid rewiring the neutral
safety switch if it was an automatic. What color is it? Is the title
straight? Don't want any salvage titles. Reply on here because I have my
mailbox configured to accept mail only from certain individuals. Thanks.
Helmut Roner
Fayetteville/Spring Lake, North Carolina
http://members.aol.com/WARHORS302/index.html
88 Mustang GT (wrecked thanks to a drunk driver) Looking for 87-93 4
cyl./5speed notchback in NC for swap project.
Bill S.
Just rememeber, some people just don't get it. they think they are
above it all, and that nothing like that could ever happen to
them....Funny, I heard someone talking about that this past Tuesday
evening, while I was sitting in the emergency room( 3 internal, three
external stitches after the ragtop "bit" me) over at St Claires
hospital....The sad part is, this was somebody who just cracked up her
car, who was saying this to her father....Seems she was out driving
along rt46, decided to "play"(ie: yes people, street racing) with
another car in traffic, and broadsided a car going in the opposite
direction...She was lucky, her right rear passenger was not( broken leg,
missing teeth, deep lacerated scalp)......There are lessons to be
learned about this...Some will learn, others will be like sheep and
follow to their deaths...........Personally, I was never a follower at
that age.................
Yours In Fords,
Bill S.
TFrog93 wrote:
>
> In article <3773fa4e...@news.earthlink.net>, h...@erflink.net writes:
>
> >How is this article related to Mustangs???
>
> Now, THAT piece of idiocy wasn't bad enough, he follows it up with:
>
> In article <377418d1...@news.earthlink.net>, hj...@erflink.net (H.
> Johnson) writes:
> >
> >No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
> >race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
> >
> >The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
> >actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
> >maybe YOU should drive a civic.
>
Bill S.
Ignore those who flamed you, as they just don't get it......You
original post was right on the mark, and it makes then think about the
imortality, for which they still think that it won't happen to
them.......Regardless of what you race/drive.....You did the right thing
by posting this here.
Just my common 2 cetns worth on this subject.
Yours in Fords(amongst others).
Bill S.
Bill S.
Yes, the post below was heavy sarcasm.................Just thought I
would clarify it for all of you before you think I flipped my
lid(again).
Yours in Sane Fords,
Bill S.
Rich
MPowell wrote in message ...
Brian Bertine
warho...@aol.com writes:
<< No interior.......what about the dash and gauges? Does it have a steering
wheel? What tranny was in it originally? I want to avoid rewiring the neutral
safety switch if it was an automatic. What color is it? Is the title
straight? >>
Ok....no dash, no gauges....has steering wheel and column, but no trim...dunno
about the transmission, but there's probably not any wiring at all.....color is
white primer......unsure about the title but I can find out.
This is just a body shell - the owner was building a 4 cyl circle track car but
lost interest. I'll let you know later about the title and wiring.
NoOption5L
RacerDa...@webtv.net (Dan W) writes:
>It seems to me the youth of today hold no value for a human life. When
>we were young (and stupid) we also street raced but we didn't do it at 5
>pm on city streets on 2 lane roads. Although I building my car to be
>streetable I think I will keep the racing on the track.
Trust me. The youth of yesterday did the same stupid things.
NoOption5L
Johnson) writes:
>I'm sorry I thought this was a group for adults, beg my pardon.
It is, but you can come in.
>Firstly, a reply to a post does not alter the thread list. They are
>usually listed linked to the original article so you know to skip them
>if you are not interested in the original post. So, my reply IS NOT
>the same as an off topic post.
Huh? It's late, maybe that's it.
>Secondly, All the flamers to my posts seem to think **racing**
<ding ding> You used the KEY word. That word is "racing".
>on a narrow 2 lane road with a 30 mph speed limit, near a residential area,
>playing bumper tag at more than double the posted speed, **racing**
<ding ding> Damn, your getting good at this game!
>side by side (obviously one car in the wrong lane), up the crest of hill is
>STREET RACING! WOW, I'm shocked ! I didn't even think street racers
<ding ding> "Racers refers to "racing". "Johnny, give our contestant another
25 points".
>were that stupid. All the ones I've ever seen take place are late at night,
usually >on the weekends, in industrial areas.
<buzzer> Oops...game over. He says racing only happens "late at night,
usually on the weekends, in industrial areas". I guess it just doesn't happen
anywhere else.
>I guess when you car is that slow you get a kick out of passing ma and pa on
the >local street.
>The NHRA and the SCCA give plenty of opportunity to race (legally) in
>all regions. But I guess if you think THAT article was about street
>racing or any racing for that matter, you would probably be too
>embarrassed to actually show up.
Yeah, gosh, I thought it was about street racing...and you're right, I never go
to the track I'm too embarrased.
>For those that questioned the cars I own and that I race: I could care
>less. Just post here where you'll be performing your acts of stupidity
>so those of us with any intelligence can avoid you. I hope the people
>you kill understand.
Where in this thread did he get that this incident involved anyone in this NG?
Somebody help me.
TFrog93
<wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
>Hey All,
>
> Yes, the post below was heavy sarcasm.................Just thought I
>would clarify it for all of you before you think I flipped my
>lid(again).
>
>
>Yours in Sane Fords,
Well, you fooled me! (And I was the one defending your "sense of humor".) My
knee-jerk reaction below:
In article <3774AA...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
<wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
>Hey Dwight,
>
> Just rememeber, some people just don't get it. they think they are
>above it all, and that nothing like that could ever happen to
>them....
And, on occasion, I've been one of them.
Look, I have no problem with the posting of the article. I have no problem
with reinforcing the fact that racing on public roads is a fool's game,
oft-times tragically so. I have no problem with reading this type of post in
ramfm.
I DO have a problem, however, with arrogant fucks who object to this type of
post in THEIR newsgroup, when THEY haven't posted at all before this (unless,
since timing is usually non-coincidental, Mr. Johnson is actually another CJ
creation). I DO have a problem with the sort of mentality and mindset whose
definitions are SO narrow that they can't see beyond their own zipper.
Further,
In article <3774AB...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
<wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
> Ignore those who flamed you, as they just don't get it......You
>original post was right on the mark, and it makes then think about the
>imortality, for which they still think that it won't happen to
>them.......Regardless of what you race/drive.....You did the right thing
>by posting this here.
You're talking to Mr. Johnson here ("johnson" being a euphemism for...), are
you not? Mr. Johnson's "original post", to which so many of us objected, was
the statement that the posted article was off-topic and had no place in ramfm.
"Right on the mark"? I ASSume that you were intending to respond to Steve's
article, not Mr. Johnson's reply.
dwight
TFrog93
>I'm sorry I thought this was a group for adults, beg my pardon.
?? Huh? Are we being just a tad exclusionary here? Maybe you should take it
to some dedicated over-40 newsgroup. ALL posters are welcome here.
>Firstly, a reply to a post does not alter the thread list. They are
>usually listed linked to the original article so you know to skip them
>if you are not interested in the original post. So, my reply IS NOT
>the same as an off topic post.
ALL posters are welcome here. What some of us find astounding is your
objection to the posting of this newspaper article. We find it 100% on-topic,
while you seemed to think of it as some kind of invasion.
>Secondly, All the flamers to my posts seem to think racing on a narrow
>2 lane road with a 30 mph speed limit, near a residential area,
>playing bumper tag at more than double the posted speed, racing side
>by side (obviously one car in the wrong lane), up the crest of hill is
>STREET RACING ! WOW, I'm shocked ! I didn't even think street racers
>were that stupid. All the ones I've ever seen take place are late at
>night, usually on the weekends, in industrial areas. I guess when you
>car is that slow you get a kick out of passing ma and pa on the local
>street.
MY point being, racing on streets is street racing. If you want to zero in on
one (and only one) specific category of street racing, then I'd suggest that
you broaden your focus. I've come across minds like yours on occasion, and am
always left shaking my head in disbelief. "Street racing can only take one
form, because that's the only experience I personally have." This is the same
mentality that questions whether a stock 5.0 can break into the 13s, because
"I've never seen it". (It's also the reason why we all thought the Earth was
flat, but that's a whole 'nother thread.)
>The NHRA and the SCCA give plenty of opportunity to race (legally) in
>all regions. But I guess if you think THAT article was about street
>racing or any racing for that matter, you would probably be too
>embarrassed to actually show up.
You're right. Racing on the streets is not street racing. I give up.
>For those that questioned the cars I own and that I race: I could care
>less. Just post here where you'll be performing your acts of stupidity
>so those of us with any intelligence can avoid you. I hope the people
>you kill understand.
I would object to the phrase "those of us with any intelligence". You haven't
proven anything yet in that regard.
dwight
The Modless Marauder
>Far be it from me to be totally devoid of oratory excrement.
What was I thinking?
>Howdy Samuhell! (Oh dear me, a Freudian shit)
Oh now we wouldn't want your true self to be revealed to the newbies just yet
now, careful with that Freudian shit.
>Cobra-asthephoenixrisethsodothigrasptheclouds-Jet
Sam-whatthehellisthispheonixrisingandgraspingcloudsstuff-uel
Sam(uel)
'95 GT
The Modless Marauder
>>You're right. Brain fart - which one is the "ASS MAN" (now there's a vanity
>>plate)?
>>
>Proctologist
A little off topic, but did anyone ever see the movie "Breastmen"? I'm sorry
but it contains the funniest scene in recent film history...........David
Schwimmer from "Friends" snorting coke........OFF OF A BREAST! This is why
beer and HBO 3's 2,3,and 4 do not mix well.
Sam(uel)
'95 GT
WHT50
>
>On 25 Jun 1999 22:51:08 GMT, lx50@*ix.netcom.com (WHT50) wrote:
>
>No, I own and drive a 66 Mustang , a 70 Plymouth Cuda that I road
>race, and a 68 Dodge Charger R/T police code special.
>
>The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
>actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
>maybe YOU should drive a civic.
>
Wrong.
1. They were on the street.
2. They were racing.
Slowly now, put the two concepts together. See that wasn't so hard. You could
own a Viper and it would not change the facts. Now go out learn to change the
oil in that Civic.
--
Randy Cook
89 LX50
"Tonight it ain't right, I need me a week,
but I'll be back for you jack and the machine will speak."
Please remove * in E-mail address to reply.
WHT50
atlantic...@232ciatt.net says...
>
>Yes, and respect is taught by the parents. Many parents today do not bother
>to teach respect past a certain age. Discipline also needs to be taught, if
>these kids had any discipline, they would have at least finished high
>school. I graduated in '97, and its not hard to do. Discipline is getting
>me through college. Both should be taught by the parent, and if they are not
>the kid will not have a successful future. It all goes back to the family
>upbringing. Oh well, I'm done preaching...
>
>--
>John
>'98 Mustang
>3.73 Gears, T5, Walker Catback Exhaust, K&N.
Someone did learn something. Its nice to hear someone who just graduated show
some intelligence. Its getting rare these days.
WHT50
says...
>
>In article <3774B0...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
><wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
>
>>Hey All,
>>
>> Yes, the post below was heavy sarcasm.................Just thought I
>>would clarify it for all of you before you think I flipped my
>>lid(again).
>>
>>
>>Yours in Sane Fords,
>
>Well, you fooled me! (And I was the one defending your "sense of humor".) My
>knee-jerk reaction below:
>
>
Wow!! I guess your right. He's into heavy sarcasm Tfrog. I thought he was
responding to Steve. At least I knew there was no way he was agreeing with
the clueless one.
WHT50
ltd1...@nospamtexas.net says...
>
>One day, you too will be married with children. Maybe you should save this
>post for the day you have teenagers.
>I promise, you will wonder what you where thinking when you posted this.
>
>
Maybe he will be thinking of the job his parents just finished. A good job at
that.
--
Bill S.
As always, you are correct in my ASSumption to the original
poster...most people would have passed right over the JOHNSON part, but
not you...You've been hanging around your daughter friends again haven't
you......Well, taking Deb and josh to the beach now(local beach, as we
live in a lake community)......Talk to you all later.
Yours in Sun baked Fords,
Bill S.
TFrog93 wrote:
>
> In article <3774B0...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
> <wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
>
> >Hey All,
> >
> > Yes, the post below was heavy sarcasm.................Just thought I
> >would clarify it for all of you before you think I flipped my
> >lid(again).
> >
> >
> >Yours in Sane Fords,
>
> Well, you fooled me! (And I was the one defending your "sense of humor".) My
> knee-jerk reaction below:
>
> In article <3774AA...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
> <wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> writes:
>
> >Hey Dwight,
> >
> > Just rememeber, some people just don't get it. they think they are
> >above it all, and that nothing like that could ever happen to
> >them....
>
> And, on occasion, I've been one of them.
>
> Look, I have no problem with the posting of the article. I have no problem
> with reinforcing the fact that racing on public roads is a fool's game,
> oft-times tragically so. I have no problem with reading this type of post in
> ramfm.
>
> I DO have a problem, however, with arrogant fucks who object to this type of
> post in THEIR newsgroup, when THEY haven't posted at all before this (unless,
> since timing is usually non-coincidental, Mr. Johnson is actually another CJ
> creation). I DO have a problem with the sort of mentality and mindset whose
> definitions are SO narrow that they can't see beyond their own zipper.
>
> Further,
>
> In article <3774AB...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
Joshua Lowe
wrote:
>The article is about 2 idiots driving recklously and the tragedy their
>actions caused, NOT STREET RACING. If you think THAT is street racing
>maybe YOU should drive a civic.
What exactly -were- they doing, then? Street meditating?
There were two cars racing.
Racing on the street.
Walk, walk, quack, quack.
Duck.
A Guy Named Steve
> How's the Butanic?
>
It's sitting in my garage (rented a house during the end of March) with the
numbers from the last time I raced it two weeks ago still on the windows.
During my last run, it had a mini-tragedy. The temp was in the upper 80's here
(hot here, not there) and I couldn't even lay my hand on black vinyl top it was
so hot.
Well, there are a couple spots that the vinyl had pulled away from the adhesive
and from under the windshield trim. Air must have gotten under those spots,
and the adhesive had been effected by the heat.... at about 80 mph at about the
990 mark, it ripped up and back off the roof. It flapped against the rear
window which gave me a momentary scare.
So, I had to rip what had come up the rest of the way off. My next project is
to completely remove the top and adhesive. Then I'll probably just fix any
spots that are showing rust, then seal it off. I might also paint it black for
now... leaving the trim around where the top was.
My plan for the long future is to redo all the paint and bodywork using the
original paint color. But, I'm not going to re-vinyl the top.
atlanticblue98
>In article <7l1a8f$4nj$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
>atlantic...@232ciatt.net says...
>>
>>Yes, and respect is taught by the parents. Many parents today do not
bother
>>to teach respect past a certain age. Discipline also needs to be taught,
if
>>these kids had any discipline, they would have at least finished high
>>school. I graduated in '97, and its not hard to do. Discipline is getting
>>me through college. Both should be taught by the parent, and if they are
not
>>the kid will not have a successful future. It all goes back to the family
>>upbringing. Oh well, I'm done preaching...
>>
>>--
>>John
>>'98 Mustang
>>3.73 Gears, T5, Walker Catback Exhaust, K&N.
>
>
>Someone did learn something. Its nice to hear someone who just graduated
show
>some intelligence. Its getting rare these days.
>Randy Cook
>89 LX50
>"Tonight it ain't right, I need me a week,
>but I'll be back for you jack and the machine will speak."
>Please remove * in E-mail address to reply.
Thanks for the kind words.
CobraJet
Don't you know by now that my primary purpose in life is to keep people
wondering?
Cobra-thenewbiesmustfendforthemselves-Jet
>
>
> Sam(uel)
> '95 GT
..
CobraJet
(A Guy Named Steve) wrote:
> CJ wrote:
>
> > How's the Butanic?
> >
>
> It's sitting in my garage (rented a house during the end of March) with the
> numbers from the last time I raced it two weeks ago still on the windows.
> During my last run, it had a mini-tragedy. The temp was in the upper
80's here
> (hot here, not there) and I couldn't even lay my hand on black vinyl top
it was
> so hot.
>
> Well, there are a couple spots that the vinyl had pulled away from the
adhesive
> and from under the windshield trim. Air must have gotten under those spots,
> and the adhesive had been effected by the heat.... at about 80 mph at
about the
> 990 mark, it ripped up and back off the roof. It flapped against the rear
> window which gave me a momentary scare.
>
> So, I had to rip what had come up the rest of the way off. My next project is
> to completely remove the top and adhesive. Then I'll probably just fix any
> spots that are showing rust, then seal it off. I might also paint it
black for
> now... leaving the trim around where the top was.
>
> My plan for the long future is to redo all the paint and bodywork using the
> original paint color. But, I'm not going to re-vinyl the top.
Is there any writing on your roof? My XR7 had "VT" in yellow grease
pencil to signify vinyl top on the assembly line. It was common practice in
those days to reserve cars that had less than perfect roofs to be covered
in vinyl. All the OEM's did this, although Chrysler was by far the most
prolific vinyl user. Take a real good look at your roof from several angles
before shooting it with paint.
My Spoiler also has a vinyl top. I'd be happy to eliminate them on both
cars, but being factory Cobra Jets it would be wiser to keep them. The '67
Cougar will lose its fabric, though.
CJ
>
>
> Steve
> '71 Buick GS 455
> '91 Mustang LX 5.0 coupe (For Sale)
> '93 Splash 4x4
> <a href="http://members.aol.com/SEEverist/index.html">Steve's GS Page</a>
> "I'll add that to my threat collection." Harry Callahan
..
CobraJet
tfr...@aol.compost (TFrog93) wrote:
(snip)
> Look, I have no problem with the posting of the article. I have no problem
> with reinforcing the fact that racing on public roads is a fool's game,
> oft-times tragically so. I have no problem with reading this type of post in
> ramfm.
>
> I DO have a problem, however, with arrogant fucks who object to this type of
> post in THEIR newsgroup, when THEY haven't posted at all before this (unless,
> since timing is usually non-coincidental, Mr. Johnson is actually another CJ
> creation).
Do I hear a frog crying wolf? I said months ago that I would not come
back as a troll or anyone else.
BOO! Did that make you jump, Dwighty?
CJ
I DO have a problem with the sort of mentality and mindset whose
> definitions are SO narrow that they can't see beyond their own zipper.
Aren't two heads better than one?
..
Mike Burmeister
> Stinkin' Earthlinkers.
Hey, now! Don't lump us all in with this bonehead.
--
Mike Burmeister
'86 Mustang GT Convertible
'97 4.6 TBird
The Modless Marauder
> Don't you know by now that my primary purpose in life is to keep people
>wondering?
Yeah, I figured that out somewhere along the line. :)
>Cobra-thenewbiesmustfendforthemselves-Jet
Sam-stillwonderingaboutpheonixandclouds-uel
Sam(uel)
'95 GT
A Guy Named Steve
> Is there any writing on your roof? My XR7 had "VT" in yellow grease
>pencil to signify vinyl top on the assembly line. It was common practice in
>those days to reserve cars that had less than perfect roofs to be covered
>in vinyl. All the OEM's did this, although Chrysler was by far the most
>prolific vinyl user.
I haven't seen any yet. There is some of the original color paint on the roof
though. But, it's definitely not a finished job. I can see where the rear
quarter seem meets the roof. I still have a lot of adhesive to remove... and
some vinyl still to pull off.
Initially it won't really be a finished job. I think I know someone I can take
it to and have it done "decently". I'll also check what it would cost to
revinyl it too. If the price is going to be the same, I'll have vinyl put back
up until the day comes where a complete job can be done.
TFrog93
OFF TOPIC! STOP NOW!
Was it the beer that made the scene so funny? Or the idea of Schwimmer getting
that close to a breast?
:()
TFrog93
<mburmeis...@earthlink.net> writes:
>TFrog93 wrote:
>
>> Stinkin' Earthlinkers.
>
>Hey, now! Don't lump us all in with this bonehead.
Easy, Mike.
That's an old joke. Dates back to my earliest beginnings on the internet as a
base AOLer. You've seen me go off about ISP discrimination many times...
Besides, I mispoke. He passes himself off as an "Erflinker".
:()
TFrog93
two...@blacktop.com (CobraJet) writes:
>> I DO have a problem, however, with arrogant fucks who object to
>> this type of post in THEIR newsgroup, when THEY haven't posted
>> at all before this (unless, since timing is usually non-coincidental,
>> Mr. Johnson is actually another CJ creation).
>
> Do I hear a frog crying wolf? I said months ago that I would not come
>back as a troll or anyone else.
But, ASSuming this is really you, how would we KNOW? Once bitten, twice shy.
> BOO! Did that make you jump, Dwighty?
It'll take much more than that, you creaky old stool inspector. You (ASSuming
it's really you) missed a major coup in my usenet career, senile old twit. I
went out to play with trolls, and it was GLORIOUS. You (ASSuming it's really
you) would have thoroughly enjoyed the episode.
But... As usual, you were nowhere to be found.
ASSuming it's really you...
dwight
Bill S.
To answer this question, "only if the big head is the
leader...otherwise, you can get into alot of trouble listening to the
little head all the time.
Yours in Fords,
Bill S.
PS: We never ASSume anything these days.......
CobraJet
<wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> wrote:
> Hey CJ,
>
> To answer this question, "only if the big head is the
> leader...otherwise, you can get into alot of trouble listening to the
> little head all the time.
>
>
> Yours in Fords,
>
> Bill S.
>
> PS: We never ASSume anything these days.......
Hmmm. It's seems ass though you and Dwight have suddenly developed an
affinity for the posterior quarters. I hate to think of what I missed.
CobraJet
>
>
> CobraJet wrote:
>
> > Aren't two heads better than one?
> > ..
..
CobraJet
tfr...@aol.compost (TFrog93) wrote:
> In article <twolane-ya0240800...@news.dancris.com>,
> two...@blacktop.com (CobraJet) writes:
>
> >> I DO have a problem, however, with arrogant fucks who object to
> >> this type of post in THEIR newsgroup, when THEY haven't posted
> >> at all before this (unless, since timing is usually non-coincidental,
> >> Mr. Johnson is actually another CJ creation).
> >
> > Do I hear a frog crying wolf? I said months ago that I would not come
> >back as a troll or anyone else.
>
> But, ASSuming this is really you, how would we KNOW? Once bitten, twice shy.
As I mentioned elsewhere, you may e-mail me. Or will the truth ruin the
fun you are having now? God forbid I cloak your titillating suspicions in
droll disappointment...
>
> > BOO! Did that make you jump, Dwighty?
>
> It'll take much more than that, you creaky old stool inspector. You (ASSuming
> it's really you) missed a major coup in my usenet career, senile old twit. I
> went out to play with trolls, and it was GLORIOUS. You (ASSuming it's really
> you) would have thoroughly enjoyed the episode.
Are you going to give me a time frame, or am I going to have to Deja my
entire absence?
>
> But... As usual, you were nowhere to be found.
>
> ASSuming it's really you...
OK, Dwight, I give up. Here's what happened to me. If you choose not to
believe any of it, then that is your perogative.
Shortly after the beginning of the year, I was moving engine blocks from
one corner of my garage into the large closet at the opposite end. As I
moved the 4th one (a 427 side oiler block) off the dolly, something popped
in my right lower back and I dropped to the concrete, where I could not
move for the better part of an hour (this is one of the major drawbacks of
living alone). I was able to limp inside after that, slamming a few
Tylenols and hitting the sack. Stubborn as I am, I endured this nagging
pain for several weeks until my right leg started going numb whenever I sat
down for more than a few minutes. When I finally went to the chiropactor,
he told me I had rotated my hip from leaning to the left everytime I sat
down. He began a series of adjustments that lasted until fairly recently,
and told me then that I must keep the time I spend sitting to an absolute
minimum. This included having to stand while eating, watching TV, and being
on the computer.
When I left here in March I expected to recuperate quickly and be back
in a jif. I learned that age slows down such folly big time. The last few
months have been a blur of painkillers, therapeutic exercise, and extended
naps. I let my ISP shut me off in late March, and my Mac has laid
completely dormant until two days ago. Dancris, the new ISP you so cleverly
detected, uses Supernews as their feed so I was able to stop paying them
separately. (Hence the continued posting through Remarq). Gotta save some
money, as six months of no income has taken its toll.
Thanks to my doc, my hip is back where it belongs and there is no
permanent damage. However, I still get some nasty muscle spasms that
migrate at will around my back. I will evidently have to deal with these
for a few more weeks. The exercises cannot stop, ever. 20 years of working
under dashboards has had its effect on my neck, back, and hamstrings. Oh
well. I have still managed to start work on my Falcon to have something
auto-related to do. If and when the day comes that I cannot fiddle with my
cars, you can bet that I will find them good homes and proceed to blow my
brains out. There is, after all, little else.
I am sorry I missed your last bouts with members of the troll
persuasion. I somehow get the feeling that you think one of them may have
been me. Rest assured that I was not in the picture at all. It is not my
style (you know, the style you think is so easily faked) to repeat
something I've done before. My return this time was mainly to say hi to
familiar *faces* and see what's happening. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but
that is all there is to it.
CJ
>
> dwight
..
Bill S.
And here I thought we could put this BEHIND us.......
Yours in Fords,
Bill S.
Bill S.
Been very close to your shoes(ok: read that as back), only they put
me in rotational traction for three weeks(ah yes, I can remember being
in an upright position, flat on my back, and yes, even upside down for a
spell).....I know what the pain is like, and still have
bouts/reoccurances every few years, where I actually have to taken
medication( Ask anyone that knows me, hell, I don't even like taking
vitamins), for which I do not enjoy.......Even during the root cancal I
had done recently, they only gave me a small dose of lidicain, as I
would not go for the heavy stuff....Too much crap like that is not good
for the sole.......Hang in there, it will get better.........
Yours in Fords,
Bill S.
PS: Don't sell the cars, you'll regret every minute of it....I do, and
still cannot find a suitable replacement for my old 68 GT390 ragtop....
Even after going thru another 12 Mustang convertibles of various
vintages................
CobraJet
tfr...@aol.compost (TFrog93) wrote:
> In article <twolane-ya0240800...@news.dancris.com>,
> two...@blacktop.com (CobraJet) writes:
>
> > I am sorry I missed your last bouts with members of the troll
> >persuasion. I somehow get the feeling that you think one of them may have
> >been me. Rest assured that I was not in the picture at all. It is not my
> >style (you know, the style you think is so easily faked) to repeat
> >something I've done before. My return this time was mainly to say hi to
> >familiar *faces* and see what's happening. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but
> >that is all there is to it.
> >
>
> I'm sorry you missed it, too. Rick. It was about a month ago that I had the
> brilliant idea of relocating ramfm to alt.troll. I figured (term used
> loooosely) that we might as well take the newsgroup to THEM, since so many of
> THEM stopped by here. It was brilliant.
Geez, I didn't even know there was a troll group. Hot damn.
>
> By my calculation, it was a draw. Both newsgroups suffered, the difference
> being that the trolls actually enjoyed it. Many of my brother ramfmers were
> ... "perturbed" by my actions and the reactions TO my actions, and
although the
> hostilities lasted no more than a week, the fallout lasted longer.
It sounds like you could have used the old CJ on your side. Too bad you
didn't wait for me to return.
>
> I'm also sorry to hear about your brush with mortality. Although nowhere near
> your own mishap, I first "threw my back out" twenty years ago, when I
bent down
> the wrong way to lift Princess up off the couch. She was an infant then, no
> more than 25 pounds, but I learned the maxim "lift with the knees" the hard
> way. I only spent three days flat on my back, but the pain was excruciating.
> I cannot imagine what you've been going through.
I always lift with the knees. It was rule #2 that got me: don't twist
while you are carrying a load. I pulled the previous blocks straight off
the dolly, then pushed them straight in the closet. For some reason (not
paying attention), I decided to swing that one from my right to my left.
Wrong. I finally shoved it into place just last week. I still have 4 more
blocks, 5 complete engines, a dozen cranks, 15 pairs of cylinder heads,
eleven transmissions, and seven complete axle housings to move. What I need
is a massive RAMFM group prayer on my behalf. This time I will have a
support belt and a remote phone, just in case. I'll give it a few more
weeks, though.
>
> BTW, so you don't misunderstand me... My jibes regarding your identity are
> just that. I will accept that you are who you say you are. You've trolled
> only once and promised never to repeat the venture, and I take you at your
> word. Your return to ramfm is a most welcome event. You've been sorely
> missed.
Thanks, and I just clued in to someone named "proctologist". Considering
your ASSinine insinuations, I must ASSume it is he that you suspected of
being a CJ alter ego. I may have to check his posts tomorrow to see if he
is worthy of such a noble thought.
>
> And it's "dwight" with a small "d".
>
> dwight
> (perhaps the shortest sig in all of usenet)
Think so?
CJ
..
The Modless Marauder
>OFF TOPIC! STOP NOW!
ACK!
>Was it the beer that made the scene so funny? Or the idea of Schwimmer
>getting
>that close to a breast?
The combination of the 2 was unbearable. My friend and I to this day STILL
cannot get over it!
Sam(uel)
'95 GT
MPowell
CobraJet <two...@blacktop.com> wrote in message
news:twolane-ya0240800...@news.dancris.com...
> In article <37756B...@parsippany.sgi.com>, "Bill S."
> <wil...@parsippany.sgi.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey CJ,
> >
> > To answer this question, "only if the big head is the
> > leader...otherwise, you can get into alot of trouble listening to the
> > little head all the time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill S.
> >
>
> affinity for the posterior quarters. I hate to think of what I missed.
Nothing wrong with being a little anal retentive.
TFrog93
> I am sorry I missed your last bouts with members of the troll
>persuasion. I somehow get the feeling that you think one of them may have
>been me. Rest assured that I was not in the picture at all. It is not my
>style (you know, the style you think is so easily faked) to repeat
>something I've done before. My return this time was mainly to say hi to
>familiar *faces* and see what's happening. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but
>that is all there is to it.
>
I'm sorry you missed it, too. Rick. It was about a month ago that I had the
brilliant idea of relocating ramfm to alt.troll. I figured (term used
loooosely) that we might as well take the newsgroup to THEM, since so many of
THEM stopped by here. It was brilliant.
By my calculation, it was a draw. Both newsgroups suffered, the difference
being that the trolls actually enjoyed it. Many of my brother ramfmers were
... "perturbed" by my actions and the reactions TO my actions, and although the
hostilities lasted no more than a week, the fallout lasted longer.
I'm also sorry to hear about your brush with mortality. Although nowhere near
your own mishap, I first "threw my back out" twenty years ago, when I bent down
the wrong way to lift Princess up off the couch. She was an infant then, no
more than 25 pounds, but I learned the maxim "lift with the knees" the hard
way. I only spent three days flat on my back, but the pain was excruciating.
I cannot imagine what you've been going through.
BTW, so you don't misunderstand me... My jibes regarding your identity are
just that. I will accept that you are who you say you are. You've trolled
only once and promised never to repeat the venture, and I take you at your
word. Your return to ramfm is a most welcome event. You've been sorely
missed.
And it's "dwight" with a small "d".
Mike Burmeister
> I still have 4 more
> blocks, 5 complete engines, a dozen cranks, 15 pairs of cylinder heads,
> eleven transmissions, and seven complete axle housings to move.
Jesus Christ! What do you live in a Napa store or something?
CobraJet
<mburmeis...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> CobraJet wrote:
> > I still have 4 more
> > blocks, 5 complete engines, a dozen cranks, 15 pairs of cylinder heads,
> > eleven transmissions, and seven complete axle housings to move.
>
> Jesus Christ! What do you live in a Napa store or something?
NAPA don't carry this kind of stuff, Mike.
> --
> Mike Burmeister
> '86 Mustang GT Convertible
> '97 4.6 TBird
..
TFrog93
> Thanks, and I just clued in to someone named "proctologist". Considering
>your ASSinine insinuations, I must ASSume it is he that you suspected of
>being a CJ alter ego. I may have to check his posts tomorrow to see if he
>is worthy of such a noble thought.
No, that was just another jibe. Remember, I am one of ten sons, and teasing
was a way of life. It's hard to let that go...
Also, my sudden inFATuation with the posterior portion of the human ANAtomy may
better be explained by my other favorite newsgroup:
>> And it's "dwight" with a small "d".
>>
>> dwight
>> (perhaps the shortest sig in all of usenet)
>
> Think so?
>
> CJ
>..
Yes. I do.
:()
CobraJet
tfr...@aol.compost (TFrog93) wrote:
> >> dwight
> >> (perhaps the shortest sig in all of usenet)
> >
> > Think so?
> >
> > CJ
> >..
>
> Yes. I do.
>
> :()
Hmm. Double-dot snake eyes or a froggy face. Hmm.
..
Kathy and Erich Coiner
CobraJet wrote in message ...
I still have 4 more
>blocks, 5 complete engines, a dozen cranks, 15 pairs of cylinder heads,
>is a massive RAMFM group prayer on my behalf. This time I will have a
>support belt and a remote phone, just in case. I'll give it a few more
>weeks, though.
>
>>
I think you should invite all of RAMFM over for an old fashioned moving
party. Most of these guys would do it just for a chance to fondle some
genuine side oiler parts.
Steve would come all the way from Washington for some Bacardi.
To ensure a good turnout you could raffle off a toploader.
Erich
ps wellcome back and I hope the your back gets better fast.
CobraJet
Coiner" <kathy....@gte.net> wrote:
> CobraJet wrote in message ...
> I still have 4 more
> >blocks, 5 complete engines, a dozen cranks, 15 pairs of cylinder heads,
> >eleven transmissions, and seven complete axle housings to move. What I need
> >is a massive RAMFM group prayer on my behalf. This time I will have a
> >support belt and a remote phone, just in case. I'll give it a few more
> >weeks, though.
> >
> >>
>
> I think you should invite all of RAMFM over for an old fashioned moving
> party. Most of these guys would do it just for a chance to fondle some
> genuine side oiler parts.
Imagine. Guys coming from all over the country to fondle my parts. Gosh,
it might be fun if I were the type of fella that puts rainbow stickers on
the rear window of his car. However, FE's and limp wrists just don't mix ;)
My friend Rob, whom I've mentioned several times before, makes me look
like a rank amateur. He has over 40 factory/Buddy Bar/Holman&Moody aluminum
FE intakes and a dozen 427's, just for starters. He has finally bought a
computer and is online. However, knowing the time I've expended here in the
past, he is refusing to even load a news program into his box. Smart boy.
He is available to answer questions when he has a chance (he edits many of
the movie trailers you see on TV), through me.
> Steve would come all the way from Washington for some Bacardi.
> To ensure a good turnout you could raffle off a toploader.
You know us stingy parts collectors; you couldn't get us to give away
anything. Out of control drunken binging and a field trip to the all nude
strip joint up the street sounds more possible, though.
>
> Erich
> ps wellcome back and I hope the your back gets better fast.
Thanks. BTW, what's been happening with your Mach? Fill me in, please!
If you don't want to expound here then ---> "myname"@dancrisdotcom.
cobrajet
..
Joe Breitenbach
> <*snip*> It was brilliant.
>
> <*snip*> Both newsgroups suffered, <*snip*>
Yup. Real Brilliant.
Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
http://www.tranquilitybase.com/joe
CobraJet
<jeb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> TFrog93 wrote:
> > <*snip*> It was brilliant.
> >
> > <*snip*> Both newsgroups suffered, <*snip*>
>
> Yup. Real Brilliant.
hehehe
>
> Joe
> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
> http://www.tranquilitybase.com/joe
..