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Dane B.

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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Well... Mother nature was good to us on Friday here in S. Florida. For a
few hours anyway. It's been raining for over 5 weeks now every F'ing
day!

As I got there, I met a cool RAMFM regular known as Jared Rude and
talked a little before/after the fun started. After quickly determining
that the stock tires were not gonna work too well. Here's what I got in
the 1/4...

R/T = .759
60' = 2.43
330 = 6.06
1/8 = 8.93
1000 = 11.3
1/4 = 13.4
MPH 109.4

I'm not happy with that. It's time for some new rims & tires! The car is
running great, but I spun too much in 1st & into 2nd. I got 3 runs in
before Mother nature said, "That's enough fun for tonight!" and the rain
fell!

Once I learn how to launch this baby, I'll get some good numbers. I'm
not going to get slicks, but definitely some Nitto's. Jared thinks it'll
do 12's with good tires because of the MPH I got. Anything in the 12's
and I'll be happy. I'll probably head up to Moroso again on 7/23. Hope
to see some of ya out there!

Dane
1999 Mustang GT , Black/5 Speed
Vortech S-Trim Supercharger
Steeda 30# Injectors
Steeda Pro-M 80mm MAF, K&N Filter
Steeda Computer Chip
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Bassani X-pipe, Cats
Flowmasters 2 Chamber
Eibach Pro Springs
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Joe Breitenbach

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WooHoo! I'll bet that Vortech really sings, Dane. I'll meet up with
you one of these days up there. Gotta tune-up the LX first, though.
Maybe towards the end of the month.

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
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Sanders Racing-1

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Jul 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/4/99
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With the MPH you have you definitely will be in the 12's if you can hookup.
Your 60 ft time should be much lower. I used to have the same problem so I
bought some used soft compound dirt track Macreary's for $5/tire and I
dropped my 60ft time to 1.9. I went from running 14.3's ot 13.8's.

--
Nathan Van Buren
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Dane B.

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Joe Breitenbach wrote:
>
> WooHoo! I'll bet that Vortech really sings, Dane. I'll meet up with
> you one of these days up there. Gotta tune-up the LX first, though.
> Maybe towards the end of the month.

Cool! I hear there is a show on Sunday, August 1 too. Tune that baby!
Get her ready to runnnnn! hehe.

Dane

Jared Rude

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Dane, on drag radials you will easily run in the 12's. A 109 mph trap speed
is fantastic. Congrats. See you there next time. I'll probably head up on
the 23rd also.

--
Jared Rude
1990 LX 5.0 - 13.188 @ 101.30
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Dane B.

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Sanders Racing-1 wrote:
>
> With the MPH you have you definitely will be in the 12's if you can hookup.
> Your 60 ft time should be much lower. I used to have the same problem so I
> bought some used soft compound dirt track Macreary's for $5/tire and I
> dropped my 60ft time to 1.9. I went from running 14.3's ot 13.8's.

Wow. That's a great improvement. I definitely have new tires on the "to
do" list. I'm gonna start looking in the Bargin Trader for a deal. You
got yours for $5??? Damn. You should have baught a dozen! hehehe. I had
a better 60' time when the car was stock. It's just too easy to spin.

Dane

Blk90Notch

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I'd be very happy with that mph. I am very pleased to see the 4.6L SOHC
finally show it has some potential.....i.e., soon to be 110+ mph trap speeds
with a few bolt ons and a vortech.

With the new vortech for the new 99gt already out...watch for the respect of
the car in general to grow. By the way, how much boost are u running?

JeffK
Blk90...@aol.com

Dane B.

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I'm running the stock boost level of 7/7.5 psi.

Dane
1999 Mustang GT , Black/5 Speed
Vortech S-Trim Supercharger
Steeda 30# Injectors
Steeda Pro-M 80mm MAF, K&N Filter
Steeda Computer Chip
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Bassani X-pipe, Cats
Flowmasters 2 Chamber
Eibach Pro Springs
Tokico 5-way Struts/Shocks
AutoMeter Gauges

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Joshua Lowe

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Jul 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/5/99
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On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:42:32 GMT, "Dane B." <d...@gate.net> wrote:


>60' = 2.43

Ouch.

That should be about .3-.4 quicker on radials..

definitely just a matter of practice, too. you'll also pick up MPH
once you're driving better. probably get up to the 111 range..


I'm not the best driver, but I bet I could get a 12 out of it as it is
right now..

Dane B.

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Joshua Lowe wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 04:42:32 GMT, "Dane B." <d...@gate.net> wrote:
>
> >60' = 2.43
>
> Ouch.

Tell me about it! hehe. I did 2.2 when it was stock, but it's much too
easy to smoke the tires now :-)


>
> That should be about .3-.4 quicker on radials..
>

I agree. I'll have to baby it out or she'll brake loose!

> definitely just a matter of practice, too. you'll also pick up MPH
> once you're driving better. probably get up to the 111 range..

Yeah, I'm pretty confident I can do 12's now. I'll go to the track again
in a few weeks to practice some more. Also, I have to shift into 4th a
few feet from the 1/4 line which sucks. I'm in the red in 3rd so I gotta
shift. I don't want to see fireworks from my hood.

> I'm not the best driver, but I bet I could get a 12 out of it as it is
> right now..

hehe. Here's the keys!

Ken Davis

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>Yeah, I'm pretty confident I can do 12's now. I'll go to the track again
>in a few weeks to practice some more. Also, I have to shift into 4th a
>few feet from the 1/4 line which sucks. I'm in the red in 3rd so I gotta
>shift. I don't want to see fireworks from my hood.
>
>> I'm not the best driver, but I bet I could get a 12 out of it as it is
>> right now..
>
>hehe. Here's the keys!
>
>Dane

Hey Dane, congrats on the mid 13's. I'm sure you'll do better with some
experimentation launching, especially if you spring for the drag radials. I
was wondering, since your shift into 4th comes so close to the 1/4 mile, if
3.73 gears would be a great help. It would get you into the RPM's where the
Vortech adds most power faster and probably give you a better stretch of the
torque curve in 4th. What do you think?

-Ken
'99 Mustang GT (chrome yellow)
Just installed Bassani's and 3-chamber Flowmasters
14.36 @99.3 mph 60' -> 2.26
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(last updated 6/11/1999)

Dane B.

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Ken Davis wrote:

> Hey Dane, congrats on the mid 13's. I'm sure you'll do better with some
> experimentation launching, especially if you spring for the drag radials.

I think so. After I stiffen the suspension up some more the drag radials
will go on.


I
> was wondering, since your shift into 4th comes so close to the 1/4 mile, if
> 3.73 gears would be a great help. It would get you into the RPM's where the
> Vortech adds most power faster and probably give you a better stretch of the
> torque curve in 4th. What do you think?
>
> -Ken

Yeah, I thought about that right away. A few things are telling me not
to do it right now. First is the calibration issue of the 3.73 gears on
the 99's. I don't think this is hammered out quite yet. And second is 6K
RPM comes up veryyyy quickly in 1st gear even with 3.27's. I would have
to be very careful with 3.73's for fear of exceeding RPM limit and doing
some damage. Remember, this 4.6 doesn't have good pistons and plastic
intakes don't help either.

I'm trying to convince myself that if I can get into the 12's I'll be
happy with that. I've never owned a superchaged car before so I'm
curious to see how it holds up. Don't get me wrong, if I was rich I
would do it all and wouldn't care what happens, but that's not the case.
I don't want to always worry about wheather or not I'm going to blow up
the motor. That's why I will never change the Vortech stock boost
levels. I feel I took a little chance being the 6th 99 Stang to have the
Steeda Votech kit installed. I don't however, want to be the first to
find out that 14 psi of boost will blow my motor up :-)

Ken Davis

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> I

My idol, Dane Bryant wrote:
>> was wondering, since your shift into 4th comes so close to the 1/4 mile, if
>> 3.73 gears would be a great help. It would get you into the RPM's where
>the
>> Vortech adds most power faster and probably give you a better stretch of
>the
>> torque curve in 4th. What do you think?
>>
>> -Ken
>
>Yeah, I thought about that right away. A few things are telling me not
>to do it right now. First is the calibration issue of the 3.73 gears on
>the 99's. I don't think this is hammered out quite yet.

Here's a post I saved on the '99 3.73 speedo fix. I sent an e-mail to them,
and will eventually talk to them in person:

****************************************************************
Abbott just released their new ERA for the 99's for the speedometer correction.
Need for Speed has them in stock, and they're $129.

in...@need-4-speed.com

727-791-7223

~Ron
****************************************************************

Kinda pricey, but we'll see. I also saw on one of those Hypertech Power
Programmer ads that speedo/odo could be adjusted for aftermarket gears. I plan
to call them too. That could be a speedo fix and then control over several
other computer functions including A/F mixture and injector size. Why are the
'99s any different, regarding speedo fix, than '96-'98? Is it now an
electronic function as opposed to a speedo gear?

>And second is 6K
>RPM comes up veryyyy quickly in 1st gear even with 3.27's. I would have
>to be very careful with 3.73's for fear of exceeding RPM limit and doing
>some damage. Remember, this 4.6 doesn't have good pistons and plastic
>intakes don't help either.

I hear you. Point well taken...

>I'm trying to convince myself that if I can get into the 12's I'll be
>happy with that. I've never owned a superchaged car before so I'm
>curious to see how it holds up. Don't get me wrong, if I was rich I
>would do it all and wouldn't care what happens, but that's not the case.
>I don't want to always worry about wheather or not I'm going to blow up
>the motor. That's why I will never change the Vortech stock boost
>levels. I feel I took a little chance being the 6th 99 Stang to have the
>Steeda Votech kit installed. I don't however, want to be the first to
>find out that 14 psi of boost will blow my motor up :-)
>
>Dane

Yeah, I would be the same way if I were you. I hear that she should hold up
well as long as you respect that 8 psi boost level. Now that the '99 Vortech
kits are out, I wonder if they differ at all from the Steeda setup. I know
that part of the Steeda setup was supposed to be cooler plugs. Is that the
case with the new Vortech kit for '99s?

Johnny Sixbanger

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Dane B. <d...@gate.net> wrote in message news:3780F4FD...@gate.net...

>And second is 6K
> RPM comes up veryyyy quickly in 1st gear even with 3.27's. I would >have
> to be very careful with 3.73's for fear of exceeding RPM limit and >doing
> some damage.

I wouldn't worry too much about hitting redline too soon with 3.73's in a
4.6L. The reason I'm saying this is because I have 3.73s on my '98 V6 and
redline is like 4800rpm, so I just have to shift quicker (like 10mph). You
probably won't have to shift as quick on the higher revving 4.6 since
redline is much higher. Just a thought.

atlanticblue98

Dane B.

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Jul 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/6/99
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Ken Davis wrote:
> Here's a post I saved on the '99 3.73 speedo fix. I sent an e-mail to them,
> and will eventually talk to them in person:
>
> ****************************************************************
> Abbott just released their new ERA for the 99's for the speedometer correction.
> Need for Speed has them in stock, and they're $129.
>
> in...@need-4-speed.com
>
> 727-791-7223
>
> ~Ron
> ****************************************************************
>
> Kinda pricey, but we'll see. I also saw on one of those Hypertech Power
> Programmer ads that speedo/odo could be adjusted for aftermarket gears. I plan
> to call them too.

I recall reading a post here or on corral.com a few weeks back about
someone having trouble with the Abbott system calibration on a 99 GT
with 3.73's. It sounded like the shop had no clue what they were doing
or the unit wasn't up to par. The shop probably gave him the ol' line.
"Yeah, we've done a lot of them". He never got it fixed that I know of.


That could be a speedo fix and then control over several
> other computer functions including A/F mixture and injector size.

Now, that would be worth $129.00 for sure.

Why are the
> '99s any different, regarding speedo fix, than '96-'98? Is it now an
> electronic function as opposed to a speedo gear?
>

Yes, you got it.

> >And second is 6K
> >RPM comes up veryyyy quickly in 1st gear even with 3.27's. I would have
> >to be very careful with 3.73's for fear of exceeding RPM limit and doing

> >some damage. Remember, this 4.6 doesn't have good pistons and plastic
> >intakes don't help either.
>
> I hear you. Point well taken...
>
> >I'm trying to convince myself that if I can get into the 12's I'll be
> >happy with that. I've never owned a superchaged car before so I'm
> >curious to see how it holds up. Don't get me wrong, if I was rich I
> >would do it all and wouldn't care what happens, but that's not the case.
> >I don't want to always worry about wheather or not I'm going to blow up
> >the motor. That's why I will never change the Vortech stock boost
> >levels. I feel I took a little chance being the 6th 99 Stang to have the
> >Steeda Votech kit installed. I don't however, want to be the first to
> >find out that 14 psi of boost will blow my motor up :-)
> >
> >Dane
>
> Yeah, I would be the same way if I were you. I hear that she should hold up
> well as long as you respect that 8 psi boost level.

That's good.
I also hear it's imperative that the car totally warm up to normal
driving temperatures before stepping on the "GO FAST" pedal.

Now that the '99 Vortech
> kits are out, I wonder if they differ at all from the Steeda setup.
I know
> that part of the Steeda setup was supposed to be cooler plugs. Is that the
> case with the new Vortech kit for '99s?
> -Ken

Good question. I can't find a parts list for the Vortech kit yet. Maybe
someone can call? Someone local in Cali?

Dane

Dane B.

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Johnny Sixbanger wrote:
>
> Dane B. <d...@gate.net> wrote in message news:3780F4FD...@gate.net...

> >And second is 6K
> > RPM comes up veryyyy quickly in 1st gear even with 3.27's. I would >have
> > to be very careful with 3.73's for fear of exceeding RPM limit and >doing
> > some damage.
>

> I wouldn't worry too much about hitting redline too soon with 3.73's in a
> 4.6L. The reason I'm saying this is because I have 3.73s on my '98 V6 and
> redline is like 4800rpm, so I just have to shift quicker (like 10mph).

Yeah, but do you have an additional 120+ horsepower?

You
> probably won't have to shift as quick on the higher revving 4.6 since
> redline is much higher. Just a thought.
>
> atlanticblue98

Well.. A few times I have taken it a little too far into the red line
for my liking. It's a pretty fast shift to 2nd now. I want to have a lot
of fun with this car. I don't want to worry about hitting 6.5K + RPM all
the time. That's just me. Other people will do it and they'll be fine.

Daniel Nall

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Jul 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/6/99
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don't you have a rev limiter?

Daniel Nall
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Dane B.

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Daniel Nall wrote:
>
> don't you have a rev limiter?

na...@tcon.no-spam.net

Yes. So what's your point??? So, you can't blow up an engine, because it
has a rev limiter. Is that what you're saying??? I seriously hope you
don't think that.

Dane

> Dane

Joshua Lowe

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On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:45:53 GMT, "Dane B." <dv8R...@gate.net>
wrote:

>
>
>Daniel Nall wrote:
>>
>> don't you have a rev limiter?
>na...@tcon.no-spam.net
>
>Yes. So what's your point??? So, you can't blow up an engine, because it
>has a rev limiter. Is that what you're saying??? I seriously hope you
>don't think that.
>
>Dane

Hit the rev limiter when spraying nitrous and see what happens. Fuel
stops flowing, nitrous keeps flowing, revs come down, fuel returns,
cylinders saturated with nitrous, say goodnight.

Pretty good argument for an RPM window switch, eh?

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