F.O.R.D
Mike Clark
Gregory Scott Banish wrote:
>
> On 12 Nov 1996, Just a Guy wrote:
> > bma...@aol.com wrote in article
> > <19961112003...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > > We all know f-bodies can blow the doors off Mustangs, but what
> > does
> > > F.O.R.D stand for? Maybe:
> > > Fagged Out Road Dog
> > > or
> > > Found On Russian Dump
> > > Have you heard any others?
> > >
> > First On Race Day? Maybe so...
>
> Hmmm... let's see Can Hear Every Valve Yell....?
>
F.O.R.D. = Favorite Of Race Drivers
--
Mike Clark
1996 SVT Cobra Convertible #693/2510
(Crystal White/White/Saddle Tan)
SCOA
MCA
Dan Wentz
>> Hmmm... let's see Can Hear Every Valve Yell....?
Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
~Dan
Ronbo
In article <56dj3u$c...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Dan Wentz,
dwe...@ix.netcom.com writes:
>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
>
>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
>
enough already. Why is it that people such as yourself can't resist the
temptation to start a "fire"? Many people that frequent this group own
both Chevy's and Fords. Such as myself. And Jim Stoltz who owns a very
fast 'stang as well as a '70 Monte Carlo. We get on here to converse
electronically about different problems, fixes, advice and the like. And
along comes YOU. Here to make your presence known to all by pulling one
of these little quirps outta your colon and plastering it up for all to
see. Do the rest of us, as well as yourself, a favor. Sit back and just
read. Leave the typing to us.
Thank you for your attention.......
Ronbo
P.S. The "rapping" sounds that the valves in my Camaro make is caused by
the solid-roller cam and lifters. It's hereditary :)
Dan Wentz
>>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
>>
>>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
>>
>That's it, Danny Boy. Stir up some more sh$t. As if we don't have
>enough already. Why is it that people such as yourself can't resist the
>temptation to start a "fire"?
Take it easy. I wasn't trying to start any fires--it I was I would have
posted to a Chevy newsgroup. Somebody started the Can Hear Every Valve one
but couldn't seem to remember the rest of it, so I finished it. I think most
of those acronyms are pretty clever and I don't take them that seriously. As
much as I love Fords, my favorite Ford acronym is Fucker Only Runs Downhill.
It's just a good natured jab.
~Dan (didn't know I was going to need a flame retardant suit tonight).
tomh...@aol.com
In article <56dj3u$c...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, dwe...@ix.netcom.com (Dan
Wentz) writes:
>>> Hmmm... let's see Can Hear Every Valve Yell....?
>
>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
>
>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
>
>~Dan
>
>
If you use those big words, the chevy people will not understand it.
darryl....@fmr.com
Ronbo,
The boyz are just having fun. If you don't care for it, don't spend
so much time writing a dissertation in which you dispense with
requests for change and advice.
As you astutely pointed out, this group should be used for other
purposes and I agree, but this is not a perfect world.
Sincerely,
A Chevy /Ford/Dodge owner (a.k.a. -D)
.On 14 Nov 1996 03:55:59 GMT, Ronbo <R4...@email.sps.mot.com> wrote:
>In article <56dj3u$c...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Dan Wentz,
>dwe...@ix.netcom.com writes:
>>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
>>
>>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
>>
>That's it, Danny Boy. Stir up some more sh$t. As if we don't have
>enough already. Why is it that people such as yourself can't resist the
>temptation to start a "fire"? Many people that frequent this group own
>both Chevy's and Fords. Such as myself. And Jim Stoltz who owns a very
>fast 'stang as well as a '70 Monte Carlo. We get on here to converse
>electronically about different problems, fixes, advice and the like. And
>along comes YOU. Here to make your presence known to all by pulling one
>of these little quirps outta your colon and plastering it up for all to
>see. Do the rest of us, as well as yourself, a favor. Sit back and just
>read. Leave the typing to us.
>Thank you for your attention.......
>Ronbo
>P.S. The "rapping" sounds that the valves in my Camaro make is caused by
>the solid-roller cam and lifters. It's hereditary :)
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Bruce Musgrove
Dan Wentz wrote:
>
> >>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
> >>
> >>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
> >>
> >That's it, Danny Boy. Stir up some more sh$t. As if we don't have
> >enough already. Why is it that people such as yourself can't resist the
> >temptation to start a "fire"?
>
> posted to a Chevy newsgroup. Somebody started the Can Hear Every Valve one
> but couldn't seem to remember the rest of it, so I finished it. I think most
> of those acronyms are pretty clever and I don't take them that seriously. As
> much as I love Fords, my favorite Ford acronym is Fucker Only Runs Downhill.
> It's just a good natured jab.
>
> ~Dan (didn't know I was going to need a flame retardant suit tonight).
some people just do not understand humour.
Michael N. Abdelmalek
tomh...@aol.com wrote:
>In article <56dj3u$c...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>, dwe...@ix.netcom.com (Dan
>Wentz) writes:
>>>> Hmmm... let's see Can Hear Every Valve Yell....?
>>
>>Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
>>
>>Cheap Hardly Efficient Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
>>
>>~Dan
>>
>>
>If you use those big words, the chevy people will not understand it.
that's right, because if they had any iq they woulda bought a mustang
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Patrick Gattafoni
Ronbo wrote:
> That's it, Danny Boy. Stir up some more sh$t. As if we don't have
> enough already. Why is it that people such as yourself can't resist the
> temptation to start a "fire"? Many people that frequent this group own
> both Chevy's and Fords. Such as myself. And Jim Stoltz who owns a very
> fast 'stang as well as a '70 Monte Carlo. We get on here to converse
> electronically about different problems, fixes, advice and the like. And
> along comes YOU. Here to make your presence known to all by pulling one
> of these little quirps outta your colon and plastering it up for all to
> see. Do the rest of us, as well as yourself, a favor. Sit back and just
> read. Leave the typing to us.
> Thank you for your attention.......
It's nice to hear someone like yourself in here once in a while, I just
can't understand why so many others are so dead set against other brands
of cars. I also own both a GM and a Ford and love both of them. To me as
long as it's rear drive and has a V8 engine, I don't care who makes it.
Each person is free to choose whichever car suits them best and that's
fine, but when people start cutting up other's choices, that is where I
draw the line. We should all just be happy that they even still make
these rear drive V8 cars, back in the mid 70s they almost totally killed
them off on us. It's nice to see Ford and GM start to get into a little
horsepower war (with the Cobra versus the Camaro SS and Firebird WS6),
the consumer will be the one to benefit here. To settle the bet of which
one of the two cars is faster doesn't really matter, in some cases the
Mustang will be faster and in some cases the Ram-air cars will win, they
are that close in performance. What it all boils down to in most cases
is driver skill, the better driver wins out, not necessarily the faster
car. When I'm out driving in either one of my cars, it's just nice to
beat another fast car, whether it's a Ford or a GM I really don't care.
Maybe it's just where I live or something, but when I have beaten a
Mustang in my TA, I have gotten a thumbs up, and when I've beaten a GM
in my Mustang, I also have gotten a thumbs up before. It is always nice
when someone accepts defeat graceously, and I would do the same, because
there is always gonna be someone out there faster than you, unless your
name is Kenny Bernstein!
Patrick Gattafoni
87 Mustang GT (Paxton supercharged)
95 Trans Am
Ronbo
In article <328B42...@mednet.swmed.edu> Bruce Musgrove,O.K., maybe I over-reacted a little. But this crap never ends. It seems
to me that when someone posts one of these little sayings they are
inciting a riot, so to speak. Chevy and Ford owners alike live inside
this group. If you wanta have some fun and not piss off any of us here
then come up with a few sayings for some of the Japanese/Foreign cars.
And as for Calvin pissing on the Ford oval or Chevy bowtie, everytime I
see one I think "There's a guy just asking to get his car keyed". 'Cause
someday, sometime, someone is going to take real offense to it when its
all by itself in the local Wal-Mart parking lot. I have a freind who has
a bad-ass '70 stepside p/u (427 c.i. - 12.20 n/a) with Calvin whizzin' on
Ford and someone tatooed his hood with some kind of paint stripper or
chemical F O R D. Ate thru the paint.
How 'bout Calvin pissin' on a big H (Honda).
I appologize if I have offended anyone.
Ronbo
'86 GT/'91 Camaro (the mean one)
Dan Wentz
>this group. If you wanta have some fun and not piss off any of us here
>then come up with a few sayings for some of the Japanese/Foreign cars.
Okay, but only because you asked so nice :) Here are all the ones I know,
excluding all American makes. (Of course now I'll probably get slammed for
being a racist or something.) Remember what I wrote yesterday--these are just
a goof, I take no responsibility for the accuracy or validity of these (though
I do agree with many of them).
AUDI
Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
Always Unsafe Designs Implemented
BMW
Beautiful Mechanical Wonder
Big Money Works
Bought My Wife
Brutal Money Waster
FIAT
Failure in Italian Automotive Technology
Fix It All the Time
Fix it again, Tony!
HYUNDAI
Hope You Understand Nothing's Driveable And Inexpensive...
MAZDA
Most Always Zipping Dangerously Along
SAAB
Send Another Automobile Back
Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown.
TOYOTA
Too Often Yankees Overprice This Auto
VOLVO
Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object
VW
Virtually Worthless
Kirk Rafferty
Ronbo (R4...@email.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: In article <328B42...@mednet.swmed.edu> Bruce Musgrove,
: bmu...@mednet.swmed.edu writes:
: >some people just do not understand humour.
: O.K., maybe I over-reacted a little. But this crap never ends. It seems
: to me that when someone posts one of these little sayings they are
: inciting a riot, so to speak. Chevy and Ford owners alike live inside
What riot? The only person offended so far has been you.
: this group. If you wanta have some fun and not piss off any of us here
: then come up with a few sayings for some of the Japanese/Foreign cars.
Because there has been a traditional rivalry between Ford and Chevy for
about a million years now. It's a fun rivalry, this is harmless banter,
and it's good natured.
: And as for Calvin pissing on the Ford oval or Chevy bowtie, everytime I
: see one I think "There's a guy just asking to get his car keyed". 'Cause
And every time I see a keyed car I think "There's a guy with a key out
there just asking to be taken to the Emergency Room." You wouldn't be
advocating this now would you? 'Cause that's just a wee bit more serious
than anything that's been brought up in this thread.
Quit wearing your heart on your sleeve. This is good natured humor. Get
over it.
--k
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Ronbo
In article <56gjg9$b...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> Dan Wentz,Yeah, this is what I'm talkin' about. Speaking of the "Calvin" stickers,
I once saw Calvin whizzing on the words JAP CRAP.
Ronbo
'86 GT
'91 Camaro (the evil one)
Ronbo
In article <56i8ma$i...@news-2.csn.net> Kirk Rafferty, rafferty@noa writes:
>Quit wearing your heart on your sleeve. This is good natured humor. Get
>over it
What ever, dude. I make a simple comment about how some people might
take offense to the post that this person left and you jump out of your
little hole to analyze my comment and pass your judgement on me. You
sound like an advocate for confrontation, judging by your reply. Did I
say that I would key the car with the Calvin sticker on it??? NNNOOOOOOO
!! Did I say that I'd be out there, pom-pom's in hand :), cheering it
on?? NNNOOOOO !! But there are too many crazed high school/college kids
that wouldn't think twice about doing it. Agreed? I wouldn't do
something like that for the simple fact that I believe in the "do unto
others" bit. But just like my Camaro was keyed for no reason. Bone
stock, no offending stickers anywhere. Someone just saw its red prowess
in the parking lot at Wal-Mart and probably thought to himself "If I
can't have something that pretty than neither should he".
It was this person's God-given right to make these comments about
Chevy's, just as is my right to bitch and moan about it. And yours to
make your comments. I was only stating the fact that there has been
enough of this crap posted and everyone is sick of it, except for the
fire-starters of course. They can't post helpfull replies to questions
or funny stories about their cars. They can only hide behind their
kybd's and throw crap out to piss the other guy off. And how do you know
that I'm the only one offended by this guys post? I'm pretty new to this
group, so maybe over time I'll become ammune to these comments and
overlook them. And yes, I do take the Ford/Chevy battle in fun. WITH
PEOPLE THAT I KNOW!! Believe me, I've caught my fair share of shit from
my Chevy-driving buddy's since buying my GT. Been called everything from
"traider" to "sell-out". But all in good fun. And now I drive one of
each. So you can't say that I go around with my "heart on my sleeve" as
you put it. I've been hangin' out and street racin' far to long to be
able to do that.
I sincerely hope that I haven't offended you. All I ask is that you let
me have my say without being picked apart, as I would you.
Ronbo
Ronbo
In article <328B5F...@pathcom.com> Patrick Gattafoni,
ga...@pathcom.com writes:
>It is always nice
>when someone accepts defeat graceously, and I would do the same, because
>there is always gonna be someone out there faster than you, unless your
>name is Kenny Bernstein!
How right you are. And I live by those lines too. There's always
someone who will beat you, no matter what you drive. I don't care if you
have a 10.20 Nova or a blown GT that runs 9.80's, someone sometime,
someday....and it will happen.....is gonna pull up next to you and rip
you a new one. I'm like you. I own both kind and I respect both kind.
And that's all there is to it. If I can go up against anything and win,
no matter which one I'm driving, then I'm happy. But if I loose I'm
never a dick about it. I always throw a thumb up, win or loose, 'cause I
love racing (as long as I don't get caught :) ). But I still like
winning the most. That's human nature. I guess that it's the addiction
to the testosterone and adrenaline. But some people in this group take
offense to people speaking their minds about flame-baiters. I'm new to
the group and don't like when people start ridiculing the choices that
others make. Maybe as I use it more and see these posts more and more
I'll become immune to them. I realize that they're probably having fun,
but I would never be one to down a guys Mustang or Camaro, just because
that's the choice he made.
Later,
Ronbo
Mike Clark
Ronbo wrote:
>
<snip in>
> I was only stating the fact that there has been
> enough of this crap posted and everyone is sick of it
>
<snip out>
> Ronbo
I guess I missed your poll... how, exactly, did you determine that
"everyone" is sick of it?
It seems to me that, in many cases, what starts out on here as friendly
(or, maybe, semi-friendly!) jabs at the "competition" ends up in serious
discussions regarding the pro's and con's of certain aspects of auto
tech... I agree that this particular F.O.R.D. post hasn't gone much of
anywhere exciting, but it seemed to be on that path before its
resurrection.
We Mustang owners have to put up with the (ugh) Found On Road Dead jabs
(but that saying is older than Mustangs themselves, so who really
cares)... of course, the "other side" has to contend with crappy cars.
So, I guess we still end up with the better deal. ;)
tomh...@aol.com
My problem with Chevy started many years ago when, where I grew up, if you
owned anything other than a Chevy your manhood and fidelity to the union
were immedietly in question. Ford sucked. Mopar sucked. Buick, Olds
sucked. Pontiac was just ok. To this day I see and hear so much
disinformation about makes other than Chevy laid on people looking to get
into a vehicle that they like but who are not mechanics. Every month Boyd
Coddington makes snide comments about Ford in his column in Rod & Custom
and urges every body to build the "simpler and cheaper" chevies in their
Ford rods! I can't help but be sick of all of this BS. I can't help but
see red when I see a camaro. I would own a '65-'67 Impala fastback coz
they're just beautiful cars. I'd own a '67-69 camaro coz they are
beautiful cars. I'd own a 69 Z28 but I'd stick a 302 Boss, toploader and
9" rear into it just to piss people off coz I'm sick of 350/350 combos in
otherwise nice Ford rods. So, I like some chevies but I have a kinky mean
streak that is not going away anytime soon. I recently saw a 350 in a 55
Ford! I had a guy tell me that he went with a Chevy coz the Fords are too
heavy and big and unreliable! Three lies in a row. The 302 is smaller
and lighter than a Chevy mouse and if it is an inch longer you now have a
shorter water pump available. The 351W is about the same size as the
mouse. Big blocks are comparable as well. There are a lot of people in
the public eye spreading this "Ford is the lesser" bs and if you want to
talk over them you gotta yell.
I dig Mopars. My first car was a Plymouth. The problem with other makes
is they would take up space in my drivway where a Ford could be.
Tom
tomh...@aol.com
>AUDI
>Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
>Always Unsafe Designs Implemented
I'm not a big fan of Audi, but that unintended acceleration thing was
bullshit. See the excellent article in Car & Driver for a complete study
of the situation including the sort of extensive testing and analysis that
was sorley lacking in Mike Wallaces hatchet job on 60 Minutes.
Tom
Rexven
tomh...@aol.com had the sheer audacity to say...
You mean the same people who put bottle rockets and rigged the sides of chevy
trucks to show how dangerous the 'pinto-like' explosion is when hit from the
side? Those shows, along with Hard Copy, Inside Edition, etc. are more
worthless than the average infomercial. They certainly don't represent the
truth nor do they care as long as they sucker in a bunch of literal boobs to sit
in front of the tubes.
Kirk Rafferty
Ronbo (R4...@email.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: What ever, dude. I make a simple comment about how some people might
: take offense to the post that this person left and you jump out of your
: little hole to analyze my comment and pass your judgement on me. You
: sound like an advocate for confrontation, judging by your reply. Did I
Gosh, now I've victimized you. Now I really feel like scum. (is that
confrontational enough for ya?)
: make your comments. I was only stating the fact that there has been
: enough of this crap posted and everyone is sick of it, except for the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Everyone's sick of it? Maybe my news service is slower than usual. The
only posts I've seen are good natured banters at both Ford and Chevy.
My dad calls my 'Stang a "Mud Stain" all the time. He means it good
natured. If someone off the street said it, I might take offense. It's
all in the context. The context of this discussion is good natured, so
either read it in that context, or don't read this thread.
: I'm pretty new to this group...
At the risk of sounding condescending, let me give you some usenet advice
(no, I'm not being sarcastic). When new to a newsgroup, read it for awhile
before posting. Get a feel for the group. You obviously thought that
some real trashing was going on when it wasn't. You'd have known otherwise
if you hadn't jumped the gun. There's plenty of REAL bashing that goes on
in this newsgroup--jump on those!
tomh...@aol.com
In article <56qaps$o...@camel2.mindspring.com>, vdr...@mindspring.com
(Rexven) writes:
>You mean the same people who put bottle rockets and rigged the sides of
chevy
>trucks to show how dangerous the 'pinto-like' explosion is when hit from
the
>side?
No, that was Dateline NBC. BTW, Chevy trucks do explode like Pintos when
hit hard from the side. Not every time but it is a real problem. BTW II,
Mustangs can explode in the same manner as Pintos. I still drive them.
> Those shows, along with Hard Copy, Inside Edition, etc. are more
>worthless than the average infomercial. They certainly don't represent
the
>truth nor do they care as long as they sucker in a bunch of literal boobs
to
>sit
>in front of the tubes.
To say that 60 Minutes = Hard Copy is to say Theodore Roosevelt = Bob
Dornan.
Mike Wallace and Don Hewitt are not car guys and have no clue as to what
makes a car work. They reported the story from ignorance and through
their ignorance they hooked up with a fringe nut who "proved" the Audi
"problem" with gizmos and snake oil. Wallace and Hewitt should have
gotten together with a real automotive authority such as a journalist from
Road & Track or Car & Driver and done the sort of investigation as Car &
Driver later did.
Tom
Paulo Santos - ASNG/F94
Ronbo (R4...@email.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: inciting a riot, so to speak. Chevy and Ford owners alike live inside
: then come up with a few sayings for some of the Japanese/Foreign cars.
: I appologize if I have offended anyone.
I myself own a Mazda, but I am not offended. I respect both Ford and
GM. Heck I have a good time actually driving my cousin's 87 Olds Cutlass
Supreme while listening to that 5.0 V8, and hope to take a spin in a
Mustang pretty soon. If someone tells me they can kick my a** in a drag
race, I sometimes agree, but my RX-7 has the kind of handling that will
challenge most of these products. I hope we can all be civilized enough
to respect each other.
Paul
86 Mazda RX-7
93 Ford Escort
David A. Lyons
On 17 Nov 1996, Ronbo wrote:
> How right you are. And I live by those lines too. There's always
> someone who will beat you, no matter what you drive. I don't care if
> you have a 10.20 Nova or a blown GT that runs 9.80's, someone sometime,
> someday....and it will happen.....is gonna pull up next to you and rip
> you a new one. I'm like you. I own both kind and I respect both kind.
I agree that there's always somebody faster. But if you're fast enough,
you may never run into that person. It MAY NOT happen.
David Lyons
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