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LarryAnderson

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Nov 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/6/98
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I test drove a new MustangGT today,
Yellow with black accents.
I really laid into the engine shifting
until redline and fuel cutoff.

Can anyone tell me some proper specs
for this car, 0-60, 1/4 mile etc etc.
I like it alot feels quick.
The salesman knew dick !!!

Thanks in advance.

Larry Anderson
perspective GT purchaser

LarryAnderson

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^Nemesis^ wrote in message <720soa$em7$1...@news1-alterdial.uu.net>...
>Not without looking at a brochure or color scheme book with you, they
don't.
>
>^Nemesis^
>Black '98 GT Coupe
>17' Wheels, 5 spd
>Mach 460, 3.27
>K&N...finally getting fixed
>
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>DSvochak wrote in message <19981107022139...@ng04.aol.com>...

>>Larry Anderson, perspective GT purchaser, wrote:
>>The salesman knew dick !!!
>>
>>What a coincindence! The salemen here all know Dick, too! (never seen the
>>guy,though) And nothing about Mustangs. I'm sorry, they do know what
>colors
>>they come in.
>>-Dave
>>
>
>True enough but seriously folks how about an answer to my original answer
how fast is this model , I have gone thru almost every site in
Mustangworld.com
and no performance figures. 0-60 1/4 mile etc etc, can
anyone help ??

Larry Anderson


DSvochak

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^Nemesis^

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Not without looking at a brochure or color scheme book with you, they don't.

^Nemesis^
Black '98 GT Coupe
17' Wheels, 5 spd
Mach 460, 3.27
K&N...finally getting fixed

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WARHORS302

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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Like I mentioned in another post......a friend of mine had his 98 GT up between
125 to 130 MPH when the car's engine decided to retard itself. He was in 4th
gear when he did it. He tells me that the car also did it once while in 5th
when he floored it on a long, clear stretch of I-95. The car is governed at
around that speed.

Eric J. Simpson

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Nov 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/7/98
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LarryAnderson wrote:
>
> I test drove a new MustangGT today,
> Yellow with black accents.
> I really laid into the engine shifting
> until redline and fuel cutoff.
>
> Can anyone tell me some proper specs
> for this car, 0-60, 1/4 mile etc etc.
> I like it alot feels quick.
> The salesman knew dick !!!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Larry Anderson
> perspective GT purchaser

from 5.0 Magazine (courtesy of Motor Trend Magazine):
1998 Mustang GT bone stoke, runs...

0 - 30 2.18 sec.
0 - 40 3.43 sec.
0 - 50 4.64 sec.
0 - 60 6.28 sec.
0 - 70 8.32 sec.
0 - 80 10.64 sec.
0 - 90 13.57 sec.

1/4 mile 14.84 sec. @ 93.29 mph

If you'd like a copy of the article, call me w/ your address @
212-637-4024 and leave a message, 'cause that's my job #. (This is the
LAST time I'm ever doing anything like this again....)

-EJS

JD & The Bear

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Let me guess: 16" wheels with V-rated tires? If factory ordered
without 17" wheels and Z-rated tires, the computer will shut you down
at about 125 mph. Otherwise (like mine) it should do 155+.

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Michael J. Stepanek

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> how fast is this model , I have gone thru almost every site in
> Mustangworld.com
> and no performance figures. 0-60 1/4 mile etc etc, can
> anyone help ??

Edmund's usually has 0-60 times. I'm not sure about the 1/4 times.
They might have that too. There are plenty of other (better) places
where you can get that info (so many that I can't think of one right
now... hehehe). In any case (the real reason for my response), I would
seriously consider the '99s. I know you can get a pretty good deal on
the '98s right now, but the '99s aren't going to be much more. They'll
also be substantially quicker.

LarryAndrson

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Eric J. Simpson wrote in message <36446C...@erols.com>...


Hey Eric Thanks a million !!
I think Im buying !!

Larry


SVO23turbo

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>From: JD & The Bear

>WARHORS302 wrote:
>>
>> Like I mentioned in another post......a friend of mine had his 98 GT
>up between
>> 125 to 130 MPH when the car's engine decided to retard itself. He
>was in 4th
>> gear when he did it. He tells me that the car also did it once
>while in 5th
>> when he floored it on a long, clear stretch of I-95. The car is
>governed at
>> around that speed.
>
>Let me guess: 16" wheels with V-rated tires? If factory ordered
>without 17" wheels and Z-rated tires, the computer will shut you down
>at about 125 mph. Otherwise (like mine) it should do 155+.

I'd say 135-140; Cobra's don't hardly reach 155 with stock gearing.


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SedanBoy

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LarryAnderson <L...@intergate.bc.ca> wrote in article
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> >True enough but seriously folks how about an answer to my original
answer
> how fast is this model , I have gone thru almost every site in
> Mustangworld.com
> and no performance figures. 0-60 1/4 mile etc etc, can
> anyone help ??

Low 15's in the 1/4mi. 0-60 low 6's if it the same HP as the '96-'97's.
Your performance may vary.

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noodle

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I test drove a 97 cobra w/ supercharger and chip, it did 145 very easily and
seemed to have allot to go. There was to much traffic, passing cars at that
speed is not to cool. 145 in a 45 is not a good combination.

Both of my brothers have loaded 17" GT's (94 & 98) and those have been up
around 130 no problems with the tops down. The shop guys from my cousin
dealer had a 94 GT up to 150. Not sure how much higher it will go but that
is fast enough for a stock car.

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jman

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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I own a 98 gt and here is what happened to me. I had my car to the floor

in 5th gear on the highway and the speedo pettered out around 128,
ironically it
was not quite close to redline. Im not sure about the governor, ive
heard that their
maybe one in the car. At any rate you have to take into acount that the
speedo can
be off as much as 10mph at speeds over 100.

Cobra2442

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>I own a 98 gt and here is what happened to me. I had my car to the floor
>
>in 5th gear on the highway and the speedo pettered out around 128,
>ironically it
>was not quite close to redline.

I was going to suggest 4th gear, but since your redline is alot lower than my
car.... you would probably hit it long before you topped out...


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JD & The Bear

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jman wrote:
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> I own a 98 gt and here is what happened to me. I had my car to the floor
>
> in 5th gear on the highway and the speedo pettered out around 128,
> ironically it
> was not quite close to redline. Im not sure about the governor, ive
> heard that their
> maybe one in the car. At any rate you have to take into acount that the
> speedo can
> be off as much as 10mph at speeds over 100.

I also own a 98 GT with factory 17" wheels and ZR-rated rubber. I've
had mine up to 145 and still pulling strong. If you took delivery of
that GT with anything but 17" ZR-rated tires, it came governed because
of tire limitations.

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Nov 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/22/98
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jman wrote:
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> I own a 98 gt and here is what happened to me. I had my car to the floor
>
> in 5th gear on the highway and the speedo pettered out around 128,
> ironically it
> was not quite close to redline. Im not sure about the governor, ive
> heard that their
> maybe one in the car. At any rate you have to take into acount that the
> speedo can
> be off as much as 10mph at speeds over 100.

Do the SN95 GTs reach their top speed in 4th or 5th gear? My T/A tops out in
5th, but I don't know much about the gearing of the Mustangs.

Nicholas, 2 '94 YZ250s, 1995 Trans Am/M6/TT/red

ASmall9494

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>Do the SN95 GTs reach their top speed in 4th or 5th gear? My T/A tops out in
>5th, but I don't know much about the gearing of the Mustangs.

4th for the stangs no matter what kind of snow job someone tries to give you.
They just don't make enough torque to turn a smallish 5th gear with the rear
end ratios they come with. The DOHC engine can't even pull 5th because of the
3.27 final ratio. If you put a 4.10 ratio in the DOHC cars, you get a higher
top speed in 5th at the hp peak. You can reportedly go about 170 this way, and
its been tested by some at the Nevada Open Road Races. With a supercharger,
3.73s, and a full exhaust, you can come close to 200 in a Cobra in 5th. BTW,
for anything over 120 in any street car, I recommend hood pins. This is one of
the many reasons mine has been no where near top speed. 115 is all I've done.
That's where 3rd gear ends BTW.


Anthony TBA #2

Gary H

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On 22 Nov 1998 07:30:43 GMT, asmal...@aol.comCobra (ASmall9494)
wrote:

If you put a 4.10 ratio in the DOHC cars, you get a higher
>top speed in 5th at the hp peak. You can reportedly go about 170 this way, and
>its been tested by some at the Nevada Open Road Races.

170? I don't seee any chance of a DOHC Cobra with a relatively poor
CD and about 265 rear wheel horsepower going 170 MPH. Thats as fast
as a C5 Corvette which is much more aerodynamic and has more
horsepower.

ASmall9494

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>From: ga...@injersey.net (Gary H)

>(ASmall9494)
>wrote:
>
> If you put a 4.10 ratio in the DOHC cars, you get a higher
>>top speed in 5th at the hp peak. You can reportedly go about 170 this way,
>and
>>its been tested by some at the Nevada Open Road Races.
>
>170? I don't seee any chance of a DOHC Cobra with a relatively poor
>CD and about 265 rear wheel horsepower going 170 MPH. Thats as fast
>as a C5 Corvette which is much more aerodynamic and has more
>horsepower.

You do the math and report back to me. You can use the spreadsheet on Dave's
web site to figure it out. First you can figure the top speed in 5th with 4.10
gears (theoretical). This comes out to 181 mph. Now realize you won't be able
to go that fast due to drag. You'll actually peak at something less than the
181 mph due to the characteristics of the engine (hp vs. drag) right? You
already realized this. On top of that, the SN-95 CD is not nearly as bad as
the reputation states it is? Do you even know what it is? Of course not, you
are talking out your rear. The only number I've seen is 0.32. Using Dave's
spreadsheet, a frontal area of 25 sq ft (which is conservatively large, and the
above CD), you end up with 270 hp needed to go 170mph. Now where is the hp
peak? Its about 5800 rpm, so is it possible? Yes. Has it been done,
reportedly. Have I ever seen it no. Does that mean its not true? No. I've
seen this from more than 1 source. I can put you in touch with a guy with a
200 mph Cobra if you'd like. I think he ran it at 170 N/A and in a pretty much
stock form at the NORR series about a year ago. Last time there, he ran door
handle to door handle with a Hennessey Viper.

BTW, the C5 Vette only makes 282 hp at the rear wheels (this # is from
Lingenfelter), so the 260-270 the average Cobra makes is not that weak.
Gearing also plays a major role in top speed. With different gearing the Vette
could no doubt go faster as well. You have to find the optimum transmission
and final drive ratios to reach your maximum potential in the top speed dept.
Its a lot like shifting at the appropriate rpm for the 1/4 mile. The Cobra's
top speed is around 170 mph with 4.10s. Sorry to burst another myth about
Ford's. BTW, a low CD is not a good thing. I'd much rather have drag in the
right place, like a real race car. Heck the CD of an F1 car is close to 5, and
they can go upwards of 200, but that's not really important.

Gary H

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On 23 Nov 1998 03:38:07 GMT, asmal...@aol.comCobra (ASmall9494)
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>> If you put a 4.10 ratio in the DOHC cars, you get a higher
>>>top speed in 5th at the hp peak. You can reportedly go about 170 this way,
>>and
>>>its been tested by some at the Nevada Open Road Races.
>>
>>170? I don't seee any chance of a DOHC Cobra with a relatively poor
>>CD and about 265 rear wheel horsepower going 170 MPH. Thats as fast
>>as a C5 Corvette which is much more aerodynamic and has more
>>horsepower.

> On top of that, the SN-95 CD is not nearly as bad as


>the reputation states it is? Do you even know what it is? Of course not, you
>are talking out your rear.

Did I strike a nerve here? Having a bad day? 'talking out of my
rear' because I said I don't see anyway a stock engine Cobra is going
170 MPH?

By the way, skip that math....99% of all cars with a top speed of less
then 188 MPH will hit 89%-91% of their top speed in exactly 1 standing
mile. Lets use 90% as our round figure. Do you think your Cobra
could get up to 153+ in 1 standing mile?
One of the mags tested this out, perhaps someone can help me with what
issue it was in....

The only number I've seen is 0.32. Using Dave's
>spreadsheet, a frontal area of 25 sq ft (which is conservatively large, and the
>above CD), you end up with 270 hp needed to go 170mph. Now where is the hp
>peak? Its about 5800 rpm, so is it possible? Yes. Has it been done,
>reportedly. Have I ever seen it no. Does that mean its not true? No. I've
>seen this from more than 1 source. I can put you in touch with a guy with a
>200 mph Cobra if you'd like.

I never doubted they could go 200 MPH, just doubt 170 MPH w/ stock
motor. Is the SN95 Cobra more aero then an SN95 GT?

I think he ran it at 170 N/A and in a pretty much
>stock form at the NORR series about a year ago.

Not to nitpick, but 'pretty much stock' means nothing. If it did it
with exhaust, pulleys etc, its not stock. Does my Formula run 13.6 in
'stock' form? If I went to the track and told people that I had a
stock '94 A4 Formula that ran 13.6, they wouldn't believe me.

Last time there, he ran door
>handle to door handle with a Hennessey Viper.

I'm not very familiar with these cars. For the money spent, a Cobra
would seem to outperform it in real world driving and be much moe
practical on a daily basis to boot.



>BTW, the C5 Vette only makes 282 hp at the rear wheels (this # is from
>Lingenfelter), so the 260-270 the average Cobra makes is not that weak.

C5 Vettes' top speeds range from 169-172 MPH. With the Cobra's ever
so slightly higher CD, and slightly less horsepower I don't see it
reaching the 170 MPH mark. Perhaps I am wrong, that it possible. All
I am saying is I doubt it.

>Gearing also plays a major role in top speed. With different gearing the Vette
>could no doubt go faster as well. You have to find the optimum transmission
>and final drive ratios to reach your maximum potential in the top speed dept.

Agreed.

>Its a lot like shifting at the appropriate rpm for the 1/4 mile. The Cobra's
>top speed is around 170 mph with 4.10s. Sorry to burst another myth about
>Ford's.

You haven't 'burst' anyone's bubble except your own if you have ever
pitted me as an anti-Cobra guy, which I am not. I hardly spew
bullshit like so many other posters on here.

It would be interesting to see what sort of difference a car with
Eibach springs would do.

ASmall9494

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>From: ga...@injersey.net (Gary H)

> Do you think your Cobra
>could get up to 153+ in 1 standing mile?

I don't see why not when geared properly. I can reach 103 in the 1/4. It'd be
close.

>I never doubted they could go 200 MPH, just doubt 170 MPH w/ stock
>motor. Is the SN95 Cobra more aero then an SN95 GT?

I think 170 is possible on the stock motor.

>Not to nitpick, but 'pretty much stock' means nothing. If it did it
>with exhaust, pulleys etc, its not stock. Does my Formula run 13.6 in
>'stock' form? If I went to the track and told people that I had a
>stock '94 A4 Formula that ran 13.6, they wouldn't believe me.

You have a point there. I don't think this guys car was even modded that much
at this point. I'll ask him for the details Tuesday.

>C5 Vettes' top speeds range from 169-172 MPH. With the Cobra's ever
>so slightly higher CD, and slightly less horsepower I don't see it
>reaching the 170 MPH mark. Perhaps I am wrong, that it possible. All
>I am saying is I doubt it.

I doubt the 'Vette is geared properly to reach top speed.

>You have to find the optimum transmission
>>and final drive ratios to reach your maximum potential in the top speed
>dept.
>
>Agreed.

>I hardly spew


>bullshit like so many other posters on here.

True.

>It would be interesting to see what sort of difference a car with
>Eibach springs would do.

I know that was one of the mods to the car. There were tons of suspension
mods. That would reduce the CD I'd think. Lowering the car has to help.

Gary H

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On 23 Nov 1998 13:57:55 GMT, asmal...@aol.comCobra (ASmall9494)
wrote:

>>From: ga...@injersey.net (Gary H)
>
>> Do you think your Cobra
>>could get up to 153+ in 1 standing mile?
>
>I don't see why not when geared properly. I can reach 103 in the 1/4. It'd be
>close.

Skinnies on the front would also help, if skinnies are available that
are safe at 160+ MPH. Small cosmetic changes would make it possible,
perhaps taking off the mirrors would help etc.

>>It would be interesting to see what sort of difference a car with
>>Eibach springs would do.
>
>I know that was one of the mods to the car. There were tons of suspension
>mods. That would reduce the CD I'd think. Lowering the car has to help.

My Formula is much more stable at high speeds now with the Eibachs.
My car is more stable at 130 MPH then my best friend's '92 GT is at
110 MPH.

Cobra2442

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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>Skinnies on the front would also help, if skinnies are available that
>are safe at 160+ MPH.


I'm sure that they are, as the top fuelers and funny cars are going over 300
with skinnies....

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