What do you guys think about the 2002 Mach 1 Prototype?
Frokie
Ryan Eldridge
Bullit... Actually what a lot of diehards have wanted for awhile... Like
me... :o) If and when I have enough money, and if they build it, that'd be
my ride everyday...
Ryan
'84 5.0 GT
'66 289 Coupe
Frokie <chris...@pepalum.com> wrote in message
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bluesta...@altavista.com
wrote:
>Take a look
>
>http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
I'm not sold on the color yet, but everything else about it makes the
prospect of owning one truly a drool-inducing experience. :)
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Blue...@NoSpamaltavista.com
1998 GT Coupe - Bright Atlantic Blue,
5-spd, K&N FIPK, Triax Shifter, 3.73's,
SpeedCal, 2K Heads, 2K Intake
I won an "Attaboy" award from Tungsten
and all I got was this lousy tagline.
John Doe
axle and 3.27s. Seats look good. Shifter looks too tall, but
aftermarket parts can fix that easily. Neat car idea.
Personally, I thought they'd do a new Boss Mustang first. The
stickers look good on the sides of the new body style and the Boss has
a nice ring to it.
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 08:51:06 GMT, Frokie <chris...@pepalum.com>
wrote:
>Take a look
>
>http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
Chris Eaton
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> http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
How many times is Ford going to slap a new color on a Mustang and badge it
as a new car?
ce
Jason
Ever seen the Shinoda Mustangs? Guy who owns a shop in town has one, he was a
designer for the Boss program.
>>Jason
>ThunderSnake #47<
69 MuttStang
73 Stang Coupe - Degreasing Time
Bones mend, Flesh heals,
And Chicks dig scars
Joseph M. Clemente
stangs. A modern stang with mods is NOT a Mach 1.
It's bad enough the name "Cobra" is badged all over the Mustang SVT. Umm, I
think it's still a Mustang?
Just more cars with identity problems...
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Stephen Begg
stance, more horsepower, better brakes, etc. Hopefully these mods will make
it to the next GT's.
Steve
'00 GT
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mike
Even thought its just a cobra with out the shity IRS
difa...@hotmail.com
<ma...@josephclemente.com> wrote:
>I agree 100%. Ford is going retro-theme crazy and slapping badges on modded
>stangs. A modern stang with mods is NOT a Mach 1.
>
>It's bad enough the name "Cobra" is badged all over the Mustang SVT. Umm, I
>think it's still a Mustang?
And its still a mustang. nobody ever said its not. just with a bite.
i dont see the complication.
Dima F.
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wrote:
>Take a look
>
>http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
Nice stang. I like the color and the name (azure), and the "94-'98 "c"
pillars look better on this car then the stock ones
NoOption5L
<reld...@hotmail.com> writes:
>I'd buy one! Doesn't appear to be as much of a 'gimmick' car as the
>Bullit...
Why do you consider the Bullit car to be a gimmick?
Patrick
'93 Cobra - Best E.T. 13.44 / Best MPH 103.23
'83 Ford LTD
Former original owner - '87 5-liter, 5-speed LX
14.2 @ 98 stock - 13.8 @ 101 lightly modded
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NoOption5L
<johnd...@hotmail.com> writes:
>Personally, I thought they'd do a new Boss Mustang first. The
>stickers look good on the sides of the new body style and the Boss has
>a nice ring to it.
Supposedly, that's next. A new 5.0 (302) Boss Mustang...
NoOption5L
<chr...@austintx.net> writes:
>> http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
>How many times is Ford going to slap a new color on a Mustang and badge it
>as a new car?
Huh? The Bullit car isn't a paint and decal performance car. There's real
improvements under the skin. The new Mach 1 will also be better than a GT.
Joe
but they'll still be underpowered if they make it to production.
The Mach 1 (if it ever makes it to production) should have the Cobra
engine; the Cobra should have the Lightning engine. 2 more cents and
raise you a dime.
Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Joe
"Real improvements"? Like what? The Bullit is a poser car. All spit
and polish, no go. Looks like the Mach is about the same.
Here's the reality - performancewise, there's nowhere to put these cars
between the GT and the Cobra. The gap is too narrow. Differences
become largely cosmetic with a few suspension and option tweaks.
NoOption5L
>> >> http://www.stangnet.com/mach1/mach1.html
>> >How many times is Ford going to slap a new color on a Mustang and badge it
>> >as a new car?
>> Huh? The Bullit car isn't a paint and decal performance car. There's real
>> improvements under the skin. The new Mach 1 will also be better than a GT.
>"Real improvements"? Like what?
-Cast aluminum SVT Cobra intake mainfold
-Twin bore 57mm TB
-Port-matched heads
-Cobra windage tray
-High-flow exhaust
-Torque Thrust Ds
-Lowering springs
>The Bullit is a poser car.
Joe, there isn't even any added wings and crap. It's a very low-profile car.
Plus, they've fixed the ugly side scoops.
>All spit and polish, no go.
Joe, I think you're misinformed.
>Looks like the Mach is about the same.
Now, I know you're misinformed.
>Here's the reality - performancewise, there's nowhere to put these cars
>between the GT and the Cobra. The gap is too narrow.
The new Cobras are running about 105 mph traps. The GT's 98-100 mph. There's
plenty of room.
>Differences become largely cosmetic with a few suspension and option tweaks.
See above.
NoOption5L
>Bah. All talk and hype, no action. These concepts are nice and all,
>but they'll still be underpowered if they make it to production.
C'mon Joe. 100 mph traps stock ain't all bad. Sure it's not LS1 territory,
but it is more than a match for our beloved '93 Cobras.
>The Mach 1 (if it ever makes it to production) should have the Cobra
>engine;
It WILL have the 4V motor in it.
>the Cobra should have the Lightning engine. 2 more cents and
>raise you a dime.
The Cobra only needs the Cobra R's motor in it....
tim k.
2003 or 2004. its classic auto industry. as a model is nearing its life-cycle
end, it has to jump through some hoops to keep people interested.
as for using old names and styling cues, im all for it. as long as they dont
conjure up the wrong cues...cobra II's and mid 80's 442's come to mind. mach 1
is a name that is sorta sacred to me, because it was the first car i noticed as
a mustang, and kept a sharp eye out for them all through childhood.
bottom line...the name has gotta have bite to go along with the nostalga.
great to hear the mach 1 will get the 4v. now the boss, on the other hand,
better get the works. and if the cobra is to remain the top-o-the-heap
mustang, it should be a corvette competitor.
my nickle's worth.
tim
99gt 5spd
white
2.3Sleeper
GT should be the 4.6L 4valve....at least!
Don Manning
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2.3Sleeper
more of the resemblance thing going on.
Don Manning
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Nicholas D
ques, but deserves more power. This new Mach I with 4V, shaker hood, and a
live axle should kick ass!
-Nicholas D
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Nicholas D
his '71 Mach I. Hopefully when they redo this Mach I with the next
generation Stang they will incorporate the newer style hood with twin
intakes and include the honeycomb look by the rear tail lenses.
-Nicholas D
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Nicholas D
To many weight issues and other problems I heard.
> Personally, if I were in the market for a Mach I I'd go for the
> original. Much nicer looking. The new one looks like total rice to me.
> The Bullitt is more to my taste, I prefer the clean look as opposed to
> the disturbed styling of the new Mach I.
I love the originals too. The style of the '69-70 and the hood of the '71 or
better. I guess I am just happy to see Ford never forgot its roots with the
style and themes. Can't wait for a newer Boss unlike the poor '95
representation we had.
-Nicholas D
Nicholas D
back exhaust. Next it is not as durable for 1/4 mile straight aways. One
track person had went through axles two times. Guys at the track by me swap
them out of Cobra's for a live axle. If you are looking for handling IRS is
the way to go.
-Nicholas D
"Thore B. Karlsen" <eigh...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 23:56:01 GMT, "Nicholas D"
> <nomor...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >> Why is a live axle a good thing?
>
> >To many weight issues and other problems I heard.
>
> Is it just that Ford's independent suspension as found on the Cobra
> sucks (I've heard complaints, but not the reasons), or is a live axle
> just better in some respects? I could maybe see where it would make more
> sense for drag racing, but limiting your driving to drag racing seems a
> terrible waste. I'd rather have a suspension that could stand up to some
> real driving on twisty roads.
>
> --
> "By the time we've finished with him, he won't know whether
> he's Number Six or the cube root of infinity!"
>
> 7777772e63732e7574657861732e6564752f75736572732f65696768746269742f
Nicholas D
Locally speaking it is flat terrain straight roads and there is only a 1/4
mile track so Stang owners don't bother with handling as much over here.
-Nicholas D
"Thore B. Karlsen" <eigh...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 00:48:09 GMT, "Nicholas D"
> <nomor...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >The IRS (Independent rear suspension) first robs the vehicle from a
straight
> >back exhaust. Next it is not as durable for 1/4 mile straight aways. One
> >track person had went through axles two times. Guys at the track by me
swap
> >them out of Cobra's for a live axle. If you are looking for handling IRS
is
> >the way to go.
>
> They swap the axle just so they can run more/better quarter miles, or is
> this for real track racing? It's strange how I've heard absolutely no
> mention of anyone here actually racing/autocrossing their Mustang. It
> seems really dull to just go in a straight line for a short distance
> over and over again. On some mailing lists I'm a member of, nobody gives
> a shoot about quarter mile times, all they care about is modifying their
> cars for the track. Here it seems to be all about quarter mile times.
>
> I haven't tried taking a Mustang to the track, so maybe there is a
> reason they don't seem to be raced very often.
Joe
You're right in that there are a few "performance" items in there. But
certainly not enough of a difference to make me want to go buy one. I
look at these cars as carrots on the end of the stick until some real
meat appears in the showrooms. Right now, the only vehicle I'm really
impressed with from Ford is the Lightning.
Joe
>
> In article <3B47E482...@bellsouth.net>, Joe <nob...@home.now> writes:
>
> >Bah. All talk and hype, no action. These concepts are nice and all,
> >but they'll still be underpowered if they make it to production.
>
> C'mon Joe. 100 mph traps stock ain't all bad. Sure it's not LS1 territory,
> but it is more than a match for our beloved '93 Cobras.
The '93 Cobra was a great car in its time, but as you pointed out there
are factory LS1s that would kill it.
> >The Mach 1 (if it ever makes it to production) should have the Cobra
> >engine;
>
> It WILL have the 4V motor in it.
We'll see, if it ever makes production. Even if it does, so what? The
current Cobra motor is mediocre compared to the LS1.
Joe
down the 1/4 - one with the 4v and one with the blown 5.4. Which do you
think would win? ;)
Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Brad
>
> LOL! I'd love to see two identical vehicles (except for the motor) go
> down the 1/4 - one with the 4v and one with the blown 5.4. Which do you
> think would win? ;)
Motor Trend had an article on those two test Mustangs last year. The
blown 5.4 with poor gearing had a higher trap speed, but the 385-or-so
hp 4v had a better 1/4.
Joe
Where'd they get a blown 5.4 Mustang? And what gears did it have? For
that matter, what gears did the 4v have? Both 5-speeds?
Joe
Stephen Begg
came with a complementary years supply of gas ;)).
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Walt
it will differentiate the Mach I from the Cobra, plus reduce
the over all cost by eliminating the IRS.
Doing this, just might, mean that a Mach I with the 32V
"Cobra" engine will happen. Another way to look at it,
is that the Mach I would be a "cost reduced" Cobra.
Walt
NoOption5L
>> >Bah. All talk and hype, no action. These concepts are nice and all,
>> >but they'll still be underpowered if they make it to production.
>> C'mon Joe. 100 mph traps stock ain't all bad. Sure it's not LS1
>>territory, but it is more than a match for our beloved '93 Cobras.
>The '93 Cobra was a great car in its time, but as you pointed out there
>are factory LS1s that would kill it.
I know. My '93 doesn't put up much of a fight against an LS1 twin.
>>>The Mach 1 (if it ever makes it to production) should have the Cobra
>>>engine;
>> It WILL have the 4V motor in it.
>We'll see, if it ever makes production. Even if it does, so what? The
>current Cobra motor is mediocre compared to the LS1.
Have you checked out the latest Cobra tests? How 'bout 105 mph traps? Now the
questions is how well will they respond to simple mods. As we al know simple
stuff takes the LS1 twins into the 12's...
>> >the Cobra should have the Lightning engine. 2 more cents and
>> >raise you a dime.
>> The Cobra only needs the Cobra R's motor in it....
I heard a Cobra R romp out of the Ford dealership the other day. Boy, can you
ever tell the difference in the engine note of one compared to a regular
Cobra!! The induction noise on an R sounds SWEET!!
NoOption5L
>LOL! I'd love to see two identical vehicles (except for the motor) go
>down the 1/4 - one with the 4v and one with the blown 5.4. Which do you
>think would win? ;)
The blown 5.4 that has 4-valve heads. :-)
robert w hall
Using a live axle seems awfully dated nowdays..
Rob
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Brad
>
> Brad wrote:
> > Motor Trend had an article on those two test Mustangs last year. The
> > blown 5.4 with poor gearing had a higher trap speed, but the 385-or-so
> > hp 4v had a better 1/4.
>
> Where'd they get a blown 5.4 Mustang? And what gears did it have? For
> that matter, what gears did the 4v have? Both 5-speeds?
Ford built the two "Super Cobras" themselves to test. The 5.4 had the
T56 six-speed. 3.55s. I guess the 4v was stock gears. The 5.4 did 109
traps and the 4v did 106. Odd, the 4v they rated at 380hp but the blown
5.4 at 360.
The test is in the July 2000 issue of Motor Trend.
Joe
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The '00 5.4 is 20 hp shy of the '01, and the '01 Lightning's got 3.73s.
I'll still bet that if you had identical cars except for the engines (one
with the current 5.4 and the other with the current 4v), the blown 5.4 would
win hands down.
Joe
Victor DiMichina
I've now thought a lot about it. If it were available, for a
reasonable price, I would buy one. I'd most likely get Cobra
performance in a straight line, so figure mid 13s. The quickest way to
wake up the 32v engine is with some gears, and a live axle would make
that a snap to change. Better seats, awesome looks, better
suspension. If they could price that below a Cobra, say about 3
grand less, I'd consider a trade in.
They'd have to offer some different color packages.
Vic
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