Bullshit ticket.. need advice.
Debo Sakai
Whooptie-doo you say.
Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
I need legal advice...
1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
2. Why are cops dicks? Not all.. but many. This cop's words were...
"I was HOPING you'd speed up to 86, so I could take you to jail today,
but no such luck I guess."
WTF?!?!?! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then when I KNEW I was only going about 78/79ish, I asked to see his
radar. "I didn't clock you. I was pacing."
Never did I admit to speeding, or my speed.
Any advice here people?
Larry Hepinstall
2) don't do the crime unless you're prepared to do the time.
LJH
95GT
Debo Sakai <aleax!@!rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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FilterX
ticket.
I beat one in March by going to court, the state patrolman didn't show.
Of course you could subpoena all the records on the car to verify the
accuracy of the speedo or look for other procedural infractions, also.
FilterX
Jay Cohen
Stop breaking the law.
>1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
Dunno. it is in NY
>"I was HOPING you'd speed up to 86, so I could take you to jail today,
>but no such luck I guess."
Sounds like you got a prick for a cop.
>"I didn't clock you. I was pacing."
The crown vics with the police package have calibrated speedos. thus the
reason for him "pacing" you.
Jay - 1987 Mustang LX. 3.55 rear, shorty headers, off-road h-pipe, 2 chamber
flowmasters, 1993 Cobra-specific cam, ported stock intake, ported stock heads,
under-drive pullies.
1999 Ford Exploer Sport. Loaded w/ every option.
NoOption5L
<aleax!@!rocketmail.com> writes:
>Okay.. got pulled over today for speeding.
>Whooptie-doo you say.
>Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
>I need legal advice...
>1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
It should be legal in all 50. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
>2. Why are cops dicks? Not all.. but many. This cop's words were...
>"I was HOPING you'd speed up to 86, so I could take you to jail today,
>but no such luck I guess."
I had a cop tell me he had me on radar at "8 or 9 over so I'm writing you up
for 10." I was young and stupid and just paid the ticket. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
>WTF?!?!?! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Then when I KNEW I was only going about 78/79ish, I asked to see his
>radar. "I didn't clock you. I was pacing."
>Never did I admit to speeding, or my speed.
>Any advice here people?
Basically, you're screwed!
I'd still show up in court to plead your case though. Sometimes, if you put on
a good face the judge might only put you on probation for 90 days or so. It's
well worth your time considering what a speeding ticket will do to your
insurance. Good luck... and be more careful next time...
Patrick
'93 Cobra - Best E.T. 13.45 / Best MPH 103.23
Former original owner - '87 5-liter, 5-speed LX
14.2 @ 98 stock - 13.8 @ 101 lightly modded
I'm not brand loyal. If it's fast, I like it.
Brent Peterson
> The crown vics with the police package have calibrated speedos. thus the
> reason for him "pacing" you.
Could ask for the ISO 9000 paperwork showing it was calibrated
back to a standard source and that the calibration was preformed
on a regular basis :)
Rusty
>
> Whooptie-doo you say.
>
> Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
>
> I need legal advice...
Find a good lawyer. Pay them. Let them do all the work while you smile at
the cop as you leave the courthouse scot-free.
I ALWAYS get a lawyer for moving violations, if I can't do the defensive
driving thing. Their fee is around $150, which would end up being less than
the cost of the ticket, court costs, and inflated insurance after it got on
my record. I'd much rather pay someone else than the city.
Oh yeah, get a radar detector (Valentine 1 is the best, but expensive) if
they aren't illegal there.
Good luck.
PS, you might consider filing some sort of complaint against this cop for
what he said. Who knows, next time he might *say* you were going 86 so he
could take you to jail, even though you were doing 80, or whatever.
Rusty
1995 Cobra
>
> 1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
> 2. Why are cops dicks? Not all.. but many. This cop's words were...
> "I was HOPING you'd speed up to 86, so I could take you to jail today,
> but no such luck I guess."
>
Roy Smith, Jr.
and followed you for a mile or so.
National Motorist Association www.motorists.org
Has a video you may purchase that explains how to fight traffic tickets. You
might consider it. At the very least you should join, so you can help fight
unfair enforcement and unjust traffic laws.
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"Debo Sakai" <aleax!@!rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> Okay.. got pulled over today for speeding.
>
> Whooptie-doo you say.
>
> Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
>
> I need legal advice...
>
WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
> Okay.. got pulled over today for speeding.
>
> Whooptie-doo you say.
>
> Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
>
> I need legal advice...
>
> 1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
It is in Louisian, sort of. I got out of one because he couldn't catch up
to me, he said I was going 75 when, in actuality he was doing 75 to catch
up to me. I think it's a little cheesey myself.
> 2. Why are cops dicks? Not all.. but many.
They were picked on in school as children and being a dick with ears is
their way of "getting back".
> This cop's words were...
> "I was HOPING you'd speed up to 86, so I could take you to jail today,
> but no such luck I guess."
One more firm and solid piece of supposrt for carrying some sort of
recording device in your car at all times. Laugh if you want, but after
seeing the 20/20 report on the State troopers in West Louisiana who were
confiscating property without just cause, I have a little mini tape
recorder that stays in the console.
> WTF?!?!?! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have gone to jail because I probably would have said that out loud.
> Then when I KNEW I was only going about 78/79ish, I asked to see his
> radar. "I didn't clock you. I was pacing."
>
> Never did I admit to speeding, or my speed.
>
> Any advice here people?
I think it'd be worth the consultation fee of $50 or so to ask a lawyer.
Then, by all means, contanct the internal affairs dept. and admit "yes I
was speeding and I really do not have proof, but his sttitude was uncalled
for". The one speeding ticket I got really did not bother me that much
because the cop was so disgustingly nice I was ready to pay him.
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WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
> I've never heard of anywhere that pacing wasn't a legitimate way to assign a
> ticket.
>
> I beat one in March by going to court, the state patrolman didn't show.
>
> Of course you could subpoena all the records on the car to verify the
> accuracy of the speedo or look for other procedural infractions, also.
>
> FilterX
Oh yeah, I did this too. Bought a dyno pull and found the speedo was off...
WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
In article <oLsZOQ1PLRE9HP...@4ax.com>, Debo Sakai
<aleax!@!rocketmail.com> writes:
>Okay.. got pulled over today for speeding.
>Whooptie-doo you say.
>Well.. this ticket just happens to be bullshit.
>I need legal advice...
>1. Is pacing a legal way to catch speeding in AZ?
I'd say shouldn't just because so many cops are pricks. I always found it repugnant that the court would automatically believe a cop over a private citizen just because he is a cop. I felt this way before, during and still do after having been a deputy sheriff for a number of years.It should be legal in all 50. I don't see why it wouldn't be.
Jay Cohen
>their way of "getting back".
I love how you put every single cop into this category. What about the
officers who truly do the right thing, obey the law, and whatnot? believe it
or not, they do exist. Just because you've got a bad experience (or several)
under your belt with dealing with a cop(s), doesn't mean they're all dicks.
hell, from your attitude shown here, it doesn't surprise me that they'd bust
your balls. I'd bust your balls too if you agve me this kind of attitude
>One more firm and solid piece of supposrt for carrying some sort of
>recording device in your car at all times.
Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch what ehw
as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
>I may have gone to jail because I probably would have said that out loud.
I'd have found SOMEthing to take you in on, that's for sure...
Tungsten
>Oh yeah, get a radar detector (Valentine 1 is the best, but expensive) if
>they aren't illegal there.
He was *paced* by the patrolman, remember? A radar detector wouldn't
have done a thing for him in this instance.
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> Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
> knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch what ehw
> as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
Actually, Jay, this isn't always true. Here you can record any
conversation with the consent of only one of the parties. It doesn't
even require a court order. Many of the police cars in the midwest are
equipped with cameras, and the officers wear microphones. The
department in our city records all traffic stops, just in case they need
evidence.
Lon P
97 GT Vert, back on the road and lovin' it!
Andy Williams
>I think in most places, anything over the posted limit by either 21 or
>26mph can earn you a trip to jail. It turns it from a civil cit into
>a criminal cite or something like that.
AFAIK, it is 21 mph over the posted limit. At that point, you can
be charged with reckless driving, which is a criminal cite. It
probably varies according to locale.
--
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patrick
zone)
I went to court. Before I went to see judge the local DA offered a plea
bargain,
64 in 55 (less points, lower fine) which I took.
>I'd still show up in court to plead your case though. Sometimes, if you
put on
>a good face the judge might only put you on probation for 90 days or so.
It's
>NoOption5L <noopt...@aol.com> wrote in message
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td
speed over the limit before they give you the criminal citation (or arrest)
for reckless driving. In WA state, double the limit is prima facia evidence
for reckless driving. However, to operate a motor vehicle in willful and
wanton disregard for the safety of others or property is also reckless
driving. This can occur at 20 mph or 120 mph depending on the time, place,
etc.
Bottom line, go to court, whine to the judge how unfair it is, let him
reduce it by 30 or 40% (he always does) and slow down.
Andy Williams <li...@the-vanguard.com> wrote in message
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Justin
they reguarly calibrate radar but what about speedos?
>Could ask for the ISO 9000 paperwork showing it was calibrated
>back to a standard source and that the calibration was preformed
>on a regular basis :)
>
>
>
>
>
Justin
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Michael Addorisio
>what he said. Who knows, next time he might *say* you were going 86 so he
>could take you to jail, even though you were doing 80, or whatever.
>
Just curious...above what speed can a cop take you to jail for. I'm in Mass.
Any ideas? I don't want to know because I speed...just for general knowledge
Michael
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Jay Cohen wrote:
>
> >I need legal advice...
>
> Stop breaking the law.
>
Jay, do you take your own advice? Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;)
<snip>
Jay Cohen
Usually. I don't speed or commit other crimes unless i'm prepared to pay the
consequences. if i get stopped for speeding, i don't argue. if the officer
asks me "do you know how fast you were going?" I politely say "yes, officer,
between <speed> and <speed>"
Then, he asks me for my license and registration, which i keep in a leather
wallet type deal that is used to hold my courtesy badges. ANybody have these?
Their badges given to an officers family member(s) to let an officer know that
there is an officer(s) <4 in my case> in the guy/gals family. The cops usually
let me go and tell em to have a nice day unless i'm doing something REALLY
dumb. Unfair? Probably. Am i going to get flamed? OH yea. bring it on.
>:)
JD Adams
to accurately clock your speed. Frankly, I'd rather they paced people
instead of hiding in bushes with RADAR. It just seems more...sporting.
Anyway, time to stand tall before The Man. You blew it, and it's going
to cost you. Save your nickles, pay the fine, and hope the ins. doesn't
go up too much. If you blow off the limit, The Man's gonna take away a
big chunk of change from ya.
I pushed it today myself. Major radar traps running along 132 here in
Central CA all day. I counted 14 bears in one hour, writing people up
for doing over 55. We even had a coveted Federal Polar Bear pulling
people over today. (white CHP car - mainly there to stop drug
trafficking.) Anyway, was pushing it to get in ONE LAST LOAD before the
quarry closed at 3:30. Pushed it to 65, and watched my mirrors like a
hawk. I got lucky, and made it to the pit 2 mins. before they closed.
But, I could just as easily have been written up for 10 mph over, which
for a trucker, would cost me $1874.00 in that county. Yes, nearly TWO
THOUSAND DOLLARS, for doing 65 in a 55. All cites for truckers are more
than for Class C drivers. :(
Count your blessings.
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WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
> >They were picked on in school as children and being a dick with ears is
> >their way of "getting back".
>
> I love how you put every single cop into this category. What about the
> officers who truly do the right thing, obey the law, and whatnot? believe it
> or not, they do exist. Just because you've got a bad experience (or several)
> under your belt with dealing with a cop(s), doesn't mean they're all dicks.
> hell, from your attitude shown here, it doesn't surprise me that they'd bust
> your balls. I'd bust your balls too if you agve me this kind of attitude
I did not SAY that. You are reading between lines and adding words. This reply was
under the original paragraph "Why are cops DICKS? Not all, but some..." When you
take peoples words out of context and add thoughts that wer not meant to be there
it changes the whole thought line. Did you do that on purpose?
> >One more firm and solid piece of supposrt for carrying some sort of
> >recording device in your car at all times.
>
> Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
> knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch what ehw
> as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
As far as I know only on the telephone.
>
>
> >I may have gone to jail because I probably would have said that out loud.
>
> I'd have found SOMEthing to take you in on, that's for sure...
>
>
> Jay - 1987 Mustang LX. 3.55 rear, shorty headers, off-road h-pipe, 2 chamber
> flowmasters, 1993 Cobra-specific cam, ported stock intake, ported stock heads,
> under-drive pullies.
>
> 1999 Ford Exploer Sport. Loaded w/ every option.
WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
> <snip>
>
> > Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
> > knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch what ehw
> > as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
>
> Actually, Jay, this isn't always true. Here you can record any
> conversation with the consent of only one of the parties. It doesn't
> even require a court order. Many of the police cars in the midwest are
> equipped with cameras, and the officers wear microphones. The
> department in our city records all traffic stops, just in case they need
> evidence.
>
> Lon P
>
> 97 GT Vert, back on the road and lovin' it!
That's why I think that federal law only applies to the telephone and to other
peoples domiciles. In Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home,
which is why you could carry a gun anywhere in your car even before we had conseal
permits. So on that note I can have a tape recorder running in my caf if I want to.
You can not tape on the phone or tape in other peoples homes <or office> without
their knowledge. Which brings to mind why the Feds think it's ok for them to do it to
Edwards even though he probably deserved it. Interestingly enough this law says
specifically says audio, which is why cops have trouble prosecuting the sick-o's that
video tape renters but only tape the video w/o the audio. If you live where the cops
wear mics and have a video going all the time, then I doubt he would be a smartass.
Unless he turns his back to the car, smashes his thumb over the Mic, and say, "I'm
gonna whup yer aise boaaay"...
Orange96GT
"Jay Cohen" <jay58...@aol.comonfucker> wrote in message
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> Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
> knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch
what ehw
> as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
Ahem....Monica Lewinski.
Scott
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Jeff
97 Droptop wrote in message <391A16...@invalid.address.com>...
><snip>
>
>> Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
>> knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch
what ehw
>> as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
>
Garth Almgren
burnout going around a corner and got a ticket for reckless endangerment
and evading the police.
The reckless ticket was for the burnout, and the other was because he
tried to loose the cops in a crowded apartment complex. The only reason
they caught him was because his had coil come loose and grounded against
the block.
One of the tickets was for about 800 dollars, and I guess he was lucky
that he didn't have his butt hauled off to jail by the Mukilteo, WA
police...
He took it to court (!?!) and had it reduced to about $300, which he
called chump change. He was angrier at the coil for coming loose than he
was at himself for doing something so stupid.
He weren't too bright, if you catch my meaning :0)
-Garth
td wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that many states don't require you to being going a certain
> speed over the limit before they give you the criminal citation (or arrest)
> for reckless driving. In WA state, double the limit is prima facia evidence
> for reckless driving. However, to operate a motor vehicle in willful and
> wanton disregard for the safety of others or property is also reckless
> driving. This can occur at 20 mph or 120 mph depending on the time, place,
> etc.
>
> Bottom line, go to court, whine to the judge how unfair it is, let him
> reduce it by 30 or 40% (he always does) and slow down.
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road for tail-gating him. He sounds like a perfect cop to me,
uncontrollable temper, thinks his sh*t don't stink, and is full of BS
legal advice.
In article <391A89E4...@home.com>,
> > Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without
them
> > knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would
watch what ehw
> > as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
>
> As far as I know only on the telephone.
>
> >
> >
> > >I may have gone to jail because I probably would have said that
out loud.
> >
> > I'd have found SOMEthing to take you in on, that's for sure...
>
> >
> >
> > Jay - 1987 Mustang LX. 3.55 rear, shorty headers, off-road h-pipe,
2 chamber
> > flowmasters, 1993 Cobra-specific cam, ported stock intake, ported
stock heads,
> > under-drive pullies.
> >
> > 1999 Ford Exploer Sport. Loaded w/ every option.
>
> --
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> in need of tires and struts
> I bet Bill Gates runs Linux at home
> Beware Ranxerox's Flak cannon...
>
>
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slipping in the rain) will buy you either a reckless driving or negligent
driving ticket. (mandatory court appearance vs. $480).
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Rusty
news:rjsjhskgn1lt3u28p...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 May 2000 17:26:14 -0500, "Rusty" <rus...@TX.net> wrote:
>
> >Oh yeah, get a radar detector (Valentine 1 is the best, but expensive) if
> >they aren't illegal there.
>
> He was *paced* by the patrolman, remember? A radar detector wouldn't
> have done a thing for him in this instance.
Oh, that's true, but if he had had his radar on at any time before he saw
him, then that might have made him slow down. I should get one myself..but I
keep finding other areas to spend ~$400.
Rusty
Rusty
news:20000510212335...@ng-cv1.aol.com...
> >PS, you might consider filing some sort of complaint against this cop for
> >what he said. Who knows, next time he might *say* you were going 86 so he
> >could take you to jail, even though you were doing 80, or whatever.
> >
>
> Just curious...above what speed can a cop take you to jail for. I'm in
Mass.
> Any ideas? I don't want to know because I speed...just for general
knowledge
I have heard from many friends and other people that here in TX, if you
double the limit, or are going over 100mph, they can take you to jail if
they want to. I'm pretty sure they can take you to jail on reckless driving
as well, if they felt the need for it.
All that is second hand info, but I'll try to find out for sure what the law
in TX is.
Rusty
1995 Cobra
Dan Bender
> for a trucker, would cost me $1874.00 in that county. Yes, nearly TWO
> THOUSAND DOLLARS, for doing 65 in a 55. All cites for truckers are more
> than for Class C drivers. :(
This makes me sick reading this. I tell ya, the laws are so F***ED up
in this country its not even funny.. We pay the law enforcement's salaries,
the politicians salaries, but do you think they work for us? Ohhhhh no..
Not only that, they have the nerve to charge almost 2 grand for 10 over? I
better just stop right now........
Oh and to the guy with the ticket, get a lawyer, pay the standard 150
dollars, and wash yer hands of it completely. No ticket that costs more
than 150 dollars, no points, no insurance hikes, no need to bother to go to
court and waste your time. Money talks in politics, so use it to your
advantage. My advice of course, it would be wise to take it..
Dan
99 Black GT 5spd
14.02 @ 99.1
Bone Stock
Edward S. Clark IV
seldom drive more than 10 over any speed limit.
Ed
"Michael Johnson, P.E." wrote:
> Jay Cohen wrote:
> >
> > >I need legal advice...
> >
> > Stop breaking the law.
> >
>
> Jay, do you take your own advice? Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;)
>
> <snip>
Brent Peterson
>
> This makes me sick reading this. I tell ya, the laws are so F***ED up
> in this country its not even funny.. We pay the law enforcement's salaries,
> the politicians salaries, but do you think they work for us? Ohhhhh no..
> Not only that, they have the nerve to charge almost 2 grand for 10 over? I
> better just stop right now........
The best protest IMO is for large numbers of people to never
exceed the speed limit. Eventually the gridlock will sufficently
annoy enough law makers and large company excutives to change
the limits and with them the laws and how they are enforced.
When large companies start loosing millions due to traffic tie
ups and shipping problems then things may start to change.
Reauxver & Phydeaux
> peoples domiciles. In Louisiana your car is considered an extention of your home,
Hey man, where in La are you? I'm outside BR in Denham. I got a ticket last
month for an illegal right turn onto an interstate on-ramp.
I can't decide if or how I'm going to fight it. Judgment day is the 22nd. I
was very courteous to the cop, and he likewise. The ticket is $115.
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you, is something only HE knows sounds like he had an attitude problem,
in Ky, anything over 30 mph over the limit is considered reckless
driving and is an arrestable offense, I wrote a 16yr. old for 40 mph
over limit just tonight he was a nice kid and said he had to get home to
"Take a shit" he seemed honest, so I said keep er' in there I'll write
fast! LMAO, cant arrest a 16 year old anyway, have to call mom! Thats my
story, it was just a SHIT ticket I guess! LMAO! Later!
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mcgyver
For those of us in NC, I will pass along NC law to help ya
out----you can be arrested by an officer when you are doing 15 over the
limit. That is a misdemeanor and means you can be arrested. If he asks to
search your car and you were doing 15 over, and you don't have something to
get ya REALLY busted, better let him look, or he will arrest you and search
the car anyways. I am an x-cop in NC and I know of at least 3 times my
partner used this to get into the car and to the evidence he wanted. Goes
like this: the guy was arrested first for the 15+ over limit (because he
said we couldn't search), then re-arrested for the
<drugs/paraphernalia(spell?)/etc.> after getting it from a LEGAL search of
his car due to his being under arrest at that time for speeding and we had
to "inventory" his car........
Onto an even more funny note. Bad guy in car says you can't search.
Why, sir, your tag is expired. Arrested! (yep, that is a misdemeanor and
you can be arrested.) Search vehicle then. Better keep under a misdemeanor
at all times OR let the officer search is the moral here.......
To help you with the ticket: Get a lawyer. Ask about a PJC. "What
is a PJC?," you ask. It means a "prayer for judgement" or something like
that. Lawyers use them all the time. Basically it is deferred judgement
for 3ish years and if you don't get another ticket you are "set free" and
that PJC ticket never happened. HOWEVER, the bad part, if you get another
ticket in the same jurisdiction and it shows up in court, you get that PJC
ticket AND the new ticket instated in full. Or so was my understanding each
time 'the Lawyer' pulled this one on me.........I liked it because it made
the people slow down for 3 years cause they felt they had a reason to "be
good." Which is why I gave them the ticket anyways......this is why I NEVER
objected to a PJC while I was an officer.........in other words, officers
AND lawyers like them, so judges give them........problem is, it is a one
time deal.........so you don't get them but every 3 years.....and you WON'T
get one if the judge/officer/DA knows you have had one lately.
Mr. Alexander
'00 GT Black All options
"There is a God. You are not Him."
Rusty <rus...@TX.net> wrote in message
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WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
In BR. Where was that ticket? I'm trying to figure how the hell a right turn can be illegal,
unless it was that 12 yo Denham cop with a really stuck up attitude.
97 Droptop
>
> Wow, thats a damned good idea. Keeps everyone honest.
>
> Jeff
Exactly. Even more than that, it records times on the camera. That
way, it eliminates the possibility of an officer turning off the
microphone and getting in people's faces. Even if they shut the camera
down, it still records time. If someone comes in with a complaint, you
can look at the time logs. If the camera is off, but the officer
doesn't go back on duty with dispatch for another 10 minutes, we start
to ask them serious questions. It really takes care of the a-hole
problem. We had one cop here like that when I started. He's not here
anymore :'), and in fact isn't in law enforcement.
Lon P
97 GT Vert Triple Black and back on the road
> 97 Droptop wrote in message <391A16...@invalid.address.com>...
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
> >> knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch
> what ehw
> >> as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
> >
Rusty
news:maPS4.2577$2j.8...@news1.mco...
> Hey,
>
<snip>
> To help you with the ticket: Get a lawyer. Ask about a PJC.
"What
> is a PJC?," you ask. It means a "prayer for judgement" or something like
> that. Lawyers use them all the time. Basically it is deferred judgement
> for 3ish years and if you don't get another ticket you are "set free" and
> that PJC ticket never happened. HOWEVER, the bad part, if you get another
> ticket in the same jurisdiction and it shows up in court, you get that PJC
> ticket AND the new ticket instated in full. Or so was my understanding
each
> time 'the Lawyer' pulled this one on me.........I liked it because it made
> the people slow down for 3 years cause they felt they had a reason to "be
> good." Which is why I gave them the ticket anyways......this is why I
NEVER
> objected to a PJC while I was an officer.........in other words, officers
> AND lawyers like them, so judges give them........problem is, it is a one
> time deal.........so you don't get them but every 3 years.....and you
WON'T
> get one if the judge/officer/DA knows you have had one lately.
Would you be talking about "deferred adjudication"? This is the same thing
where they let you off the hook, unless you get ticketed again. However I've
never had nor heard of a judgement that lasted for 3 years! I'd not even go
for that, there's no way I'll not have a ticket in 3 years! Three months
would be much more feasible ;).
--
Rusty
1995 Cobra #3752/4005
Red/Black Leather
Houston, TX
*****change TX to TEXAS to reply*****
JD Adams
> I wrote a 16yr. old for 40 mph
> over limit just tonight he was a nice kid and said he had to get home to
> "Take a shit" he seemed honest, so I said keep er' in there I'll write
> fast! LMAO, cant arrest a 16 year old anyway, have to call mom! Thats my
> story, it was just a SHIT ticket I guess! LMAO! Later!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the best excuse I've ever heard. I
might use that one myself someday! (I haven't gotten pulled over for
anything since 1981, and my record is so clean, it's boring.)
I think I'd rather be cited for defecating in public, than for doing 40+
the speed limit. :)
-JD
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WindsorFox <Max Wedge>
> Jeff Foster wrote:
> >
> > Wow, thats a damned good idea. Keeps everyone honest.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Exactly. Even more than that, it records times on the camera. That
> way, it eliminates the possibility of an officer turning off the
> microphone and getting in people's faces. Even if they shut the camera
> down, it still records time. If someone comes in with a complaint, you
> can look at the time logs. If the camera is off, but the officer
> doesn't go back on duty with dispatch for another 10 minutes, we start
> to ask them serious questions. It really takes care of the a-hole
> problem. We had one cop here like that when I started. He's not here
> anymore :'), and in fact isn't in law enforcement.
>
> Lon P
> 97 GT Vert Triple Black and back on the road
I would have figured he'd goto a different agency that didn't have cameras.
That's what all the La. cops did that got caught by 20/20 stopping people for BS
reasons to confiscate their cars under the drug forfeiture law.
97 Droptop
Nah, not around here. If you get "released" from a department in this
area, you'll end up working basically private security. They don't want
to inherit problems.
Lon P
97 GT Vert, Triple Black
JimRD
wrote:
>LAW...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> I wrote a 16yr. old for 40 mph
>> over limit just tonight he was a nice kid and said he had to get home to
>> "Take a shit" he seemed honest, so I said keep er' in there I'll write
>> fast! LMAO, cant arrest a 16 year old anyway, have to call mom! Thats my
>> story, it was just a SHIT ticket I guess! LMAO! Later!
>
>BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the best excuse I've ever heard. I
>might use that one myself someday! (I haven't gotten pulled over for
>anything since 1981, and my record is so clean, it's boring.)
Then why would you want to put 3:73 gears in so you could "char" your
tires?
>
>I think I'd rather be cited for defecating in public, than for doing 40+
>the speed limit. :)
And I'll bet you're just the guy to do it, huh JD?
JD Adams
> >I think I'd rather be cited for defecating in public, than for doing 40+
> >the speed limit. :)
> And I'll bet you're just the guy to do it, huh JD?
Ahhh. Now you're going to change the name to sneak through the TWIT
filter. How thoughtful of you. Classic trollism.
I think I'll just killfile your entire domain, and fire off a quick
complaint to Softcom, just for laughs. I think I have a few of your
other offensive messages archived here somewhere. I'll make sure they
get those too. Enjoy.
Now, bugger off. You've gone from mildly amusing, to irritating.
-JD
Kevin O'Brien
Hi there I am in MA also.
Know anything about Veracka Motors in Brockton, they have a lot of
Mustangs available. I am thinking about picking up a 96 SVO black on
black, for $14995, 32K miles...
Kevin O'Brien
Jeep Salesman
Central Chrysler-Plymouth-Jeep
http://www.centralautogroup.com
My 97 Wrangler is for sale...
JimRAD
wrote:
>JimRD wrote:
>
>> >I think I'd rather be cited for defecating in public, than for doing 40+
>> >the speed limit. :)
>
>> And I'll bet you're just the guy to do it, huh JD?
>
>Ahhh. Now you're going to change the name to sneak through the TWIT
>filter. How thoughtful of you.
Just for you, JD.
>
>I think I'll just killfile your entire domain, and fire off a quick
>complaint to Softcom, just for laughs. I think I have a few of your
>other offensive messages archived here somewhere. I'll make sure they
>get those too.
This coming from a guy who would take a dump in public.
The same guy who calls people "turds" and "retards".
>
>Now, bugger off. You've gone from mildly amusing, to irritating.
Oh, stop, you're hurting my feelings.
>
>-JD
Brian C Weir
<confused... they haven't made the SVO's in 14 years. Is he talking about
the SVT Cobra, or an '86 SVO (the last year they were made)
Amy
They should make it harder to get one and cost more, then you could
raise the limits. To many people can't drive worth a shit/or drive a
POS that isn't road worthy...
Amy
On Thu, 11 May 2000 15:50:25 -0500, Brent Peterson
<ba...@my-dejanews.com> wrotd:
Amy
On 10 May 2000 23:36:22 GMT, jay58...@aol.comonfucker (Jay Cohen)
wrotd:
>>They were picked on in school as children and being a dick with ears is
>>their way of "getting back".
>
>I love how you put every single cop into this category. What about the
>officers who truly do the right thing, obey the law, and whatnot? believe it
>or not, they do exist. Just because you've got a bad experience (or several)
>under your belt with dealing with a cop(s), doesn't mean they're all dicks.
>hell, from your attitude shown here, it doesn't surprise me that they'd bust
>your balls. I'd bust your balls too if you agve me this kind of attitude
>
>>One more firm and solid piece of supposrt for carrying some sort of
>>recording device in your car at all times.
>
>Perhaps you're unaware that it is illegal to record someone without them
>knowing it. And I think it's safe to say that the officer would watch what ehw
>as saying very carefully should he know he's on tape.
>
there are always loop-holes. You place a cell phone call to your
house and let the answering machine record the conversation of you and
the officer. And just lay the phone down on the dash on while you
talk to him. Letting officer know that your in the middle of a phone
call. Then he knows your on the phone. Granted he doesn't know that
your talking to a machine, but that is what he gets for assuming...
Justin
can get a drivers license, when it comes time to renew he just sent in a little
form, no going to the DMV or anything.He has poor depth perception as well
(expected from one eye), have seen him run over trash cans in driveway. No
offense to any "mature" people out there.
>country is that it's too easy to get a DL.
>They should make it harder to get one and cost more, then you could
>raise the limits. To many people can't drive worth a shit/or drive a
>POS that isn't road worthy...
>
>Amy
Justin
2000 Mustang V6 AODE
MAF Post Cut w/ screen
ColdPower II w/ K&N
B&M Shiftplus
Jacobs 8.5mm wires
Jacobs EnergyPack Ignition
FMS B Springs
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