Do RED Cars Get More Tickets?
Lisa D.
parked at the gas station. He comments on my nice car & asked "Got any
speeding tickets yet?" I laughed, said No & asked "Is it true that cops
give more tickets to red cars?" I was sure he was going to say yes...He
said it's not the COLOR of the car. It's what happens to THE DRIVER
once they get inside the red car. He continued on with some kind of
comment like- "People change once they get behind the wheel of a red
sports car." Red Mustang owners beware- you will "change" behind the
wheel :-) I already have-- I never had this much fun in my Explorer!
Lisa
Pony428
not be finding out if GT means "gets tickets".
Bob
TS#6
Joseph M. Clemente
speeding ticket in my life.
It isn't the color - it is a combination of driving habits and luck. And
luck.
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Stangerize
>He
>said it's not the COLOR of the car. It's what happens to THE DRIVER
>once they get inside the red car. He continued on with some kind of
>comment like- "People change once they get behind the wheel of a red
>sports car." Red Mustang owners beware- you will "change" behind the
>wheel :-)
People change once they get behind the wheel of anything. Half the time when
someone cuts you off on the road and you happen to pull into the same parking
lot as them and park near them. They are more likely to say "Hello, how are you
doing today". People don't even realize this happens to them.
I have gotten 1 ticket since I've had my Red Mustang. And I wasn't driving the
Stang when I got it. I was driving a Silver 88 Ranger pickup with a ladder rack
on it.
I was pulled over once doing about 80 in a 45 while in the Stang, but I didn't
get a ticket. I think it had something to do with the concealed weapons permit
that I have. Cops tend to let these people go more than without. A few cops
told me this is because they never have any problems with permit holders.
Funny part is, "as their training" after I told him I had a CCDW license and
was armed and said he could hold on to it to make him more comfortable, he
said, "OK". When we were done he said I could put the .45 back where I had it.
Then as I pick it up off the car... he turns his back to me and starts checking
out and asking me about the car. I thought this was weird but I guess they do
trust CCDW holders.
Jim
1994 Mustang GT 5 Speed Rio Red
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Unknown
What state are you in? I'm in FL, and I own a beautiful .45 Colt
Stainless. I'm also in the process of getting liscensed to carry.
Although I've never gotten a ticket for my driving (have for parking,
but then some places there just ain't any spaces!), I'm concerned
about how some cops might take my having a weapon in the car if I was
stopped. My family is in law enforcement (in PA) and they tend to be
suspicious. Then again, it could just be us, we aren't always a
trusting bunch. If you don't mind my asking, why did you decide to
get your permit? Personal or professional?
GTBeast
'00 Mustang GT Coupe
Black As Night/Stock As All Hell
Stangerize
I live in KY. FL & KY are recipricating states now. I carry a Glock M-30 (.45
subcompact) btw. I'm not sure if PA has a CCDW law, if they don't... that would
make a cop suspicious. The cops here know that people that go through the
trouble and spend well over $100 just to carry a weapon isn't getting a license
so they can get into mischief with their firearms. Plus, a few have said "We
just don't have problems with people that have CCDW licenses".
I got mine because everyone decent deserves the right to defend themselves.
Here in KY one policeman said (after someone shot a armed robber in self
defense) "it's a citizens duty to protect themselves because we can't be
everywhere". Plus, it's the best defense if one person walks in to rob a store
or just shoot everyone and 5 people take aim on him. How fast will he drop his
weapon?
There is also alot of responsibility that goes along with it. Some people can't
handle it. So they back Clinton in his "take a little at a time until they're
all gone and perceived bad to the majority" gun control laws. Good luck and be
safe. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that, but be careful.
>From: (GTBeast)
Unknown
I'm thinking of getting into some type of law enforcement when my wife
and I move there later this year. The reason I'm getting a permit now
in FL is because my grandfather says its more difficult to get one
(although still allowed) in PA. He thinks having had one here first
might help. Even if I'm not in the business, I still value very
strongly my right to own and carry. And safety awareness is not so
much of an issue, I've had proper handling drilled into me since I was
very young! I suppose the various influences (police, military,
recreational) will do that. Watch out yourself, though. Not that you
need a SOB story, but almost 2 years ago my uncle (different uncle,
law enforcement park ranger in NC) was shot and killed point blank by
some asshole with a deer rifle while he was on duty. Never saw what
hit him, never had a chance to draw his weapon. No matter how well
prepared you are, sometimes nothing can help you.
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Edward Kim
> said it's not the COLOR of the car. It's what happens to THE DRIVER
> once they get inside the red car. He continued on with some kind of
> comment like- "People change once they get behind the wheel of a red
> sports car." Red Mustang owners beware- you will "change" behind the
I've been driving my Rio Red Cobra for 2 1/2 years and have 0 tickets.
<knock on wood>
I think getting tickets is about being in the wrong place at the wrong
time. Because everyone speeds.
********************************************************
*Edward Kim *
*Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia 30332*
*'97 SVT Cobra (#1714 of 6961) *
********************************************************
JD Adams
piece of steel about 2 weeks before you get tired of having it drag your
pants down, or flopping around without being obvious.
When I managed restaurants, I kept a Colt Series 80 in my briefcase,
along with the nightly cash deposit. We don't have the luxury of CCW's
here in Kalifornia, and I went for many, many years without a problem.
Only drew it once when 2 black guys approached me in the parking lot
after closing one night.
Oooops. OT.
-JD
Dickey
I've been driving red(or a shade of red) cars for 16
years.....and I haven't yet gotten a ticket in one. I've gotten a few
tickets in green,blue,white etc...cars tho'. I feel(somehow) more
secure against tickets in the Cobra than I do in the F-150, no idea
why. I'm no an angel.......it might be some kind of weird Karma.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:41:31 -0800 (PST), Energiz...@webtv.net
(Lisa D.) wrote:
>Was filling up my 99 Laser Red Convertible. A highway patrolman was
>parked at the gas station. He comments on my nice car & asked "Got any
>speeding tickets yet?" I laughed, said No & asked "Is it true that cops
>give more tickets to red cars?" I was sure he was going to say yes...He
>said it's not the COLOR of the car. It's what happens to THE DRIVER
>once they get inside the red car. He continued on with some kind of
>comment like- "People change once they get behind the wheel of a red
>sports car." Red Mustang owners beware- you will "change" behind the
>wheel :-) I already have-- I never had this much fun in my Explorer!
>Lisa
>
-Dickey
Harley Soon?
'99 Rio Red Cobra 'Vert
<To alcohol, the cause of and solution to,>
<all life's problems.>
<--Homer Simpson>
JD Adams
> I think getting tickets is about being in the wrong place at the wrong
> time. Because everyone speeds.
I do my speeding a little differently.
I get the itch, just like everyone else, and for goshsakes, when driving
a V-8 Mustang, you just ACHE to open it up! So, once in a great while,
I do just that: 0-135 mph, no holds barred. Usually on a deserted
freeway somewhere, with absolutely no cars or kids around. Once I get
to 135, I back off, and this fix lasts me a couple of months, usually.
The rest of the time, I pilot a Semi around, and have no business
speeding in that thing.
Now, if I could just come up with the same kind of fix, for my serious
lack of SEX...
-JD
Kamal Hajdauoud
class where we talked about this. Certain colors evoke emotions, like blues
and greens as passives and red & yellow as aggressive or exciting, etc. So
color evokes a certain reaction from the police officer. Therefore it was
statistically more likely that (according to a textbook mind you!) if you
are pulled over the officer is more likely to give you a ticket instead of
a warning in a red car over a white one. However, this is just results of a
limited statistical survey and your driving and attitude play a big part in
it. But hell with it, any color looks good on a stang.
-Kamal
99 Chrome Yellow GT Vert
PSU '99 BA Political Science, BA Economics
"Lisa D." <Energiz...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Stangerize
Clinton gets his way, and especially if Gore is elected, that becoming a police
officer is the only way I'll be allowed (or it will be accepted) for me to
protect myself. Sad to think that it is coming to this. There is a "Citizen's
Police Academy" that I am gonna check out. The local police have a crash course
for citizens to take a brief course on the same training that a police cadet
takes. And that includes high speed driving (in a patrol car) and weapons.
Sounds right up my alley. I'll be the first person turned down for wanting to
take the course again and again. LOL Like getting off the Beast at King's
Island and getting right back in line.
Sorry to hear about your Uncle. You are 100% correct about "sometimes, there's
nothing you can do". I'd say the percentage is pretty high that you won't be
able to do anything in close confrontations. By the time it escelates to where
it's OK for you to draw and brandish your weapon, it's too late and you're
staring down a gun barrell. Unless you can get away or take cover somewhere so
you can give yourself time to draw and make ready. That's why we need more
honest people getting their permits and carrying. My gun may not save me, but
it may save you if someone is threatening you.
>From: (GTBeast)
>Even if I'm not in the business, I still value very
>strongly my right to own and carry. And safety awareness is not so
>much of an issue, I've had proper handling drilled into me since I was
>very young! I suppose the various influences (police, military,
>recreational) will do that. Watch out yourself, though. Not that you
>need a SOB story, but almost 2 years ago my uncle (different uncle,
>law enforcement park ranger in NC) was shot and killed point blank by
>some asshole with a deer rifle while he was on duty. Never saw what
>hit him, never had a chance to draw his weapon. No matter how well
>prepared you are, sometimes nothing can help you.
Unknown
quite well, actually. Only a six round mag, but I've got several.
I'd rather shoot once w/ a .45 and do some damage than plink away w/
some POS 9mm and hope he leans into it. To each his own, though.
GTBeast
'00 Mustang GT Coupe
Black As Night/Stock As All Hell
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:26:35 GMT, JD Adams <JDA...@Softcom.Net>
wrote:
Unknown
possibility, I'm worried that those who don't get in on ownership and
liscensing now won't have the opportunity in a few years. Hell, look
what they did in England and Australia. Their Olympic shooting teams
have to go to a different country to train! Its ridiculous. The
original reason I bought the Colt didn't have much to do w/
concealment, however. There's been a disturbing increase in home
invasions around here (it seems to be the preferred method of robbery
now), and I just hated the idea of being helpless in my own home. And
assuming I heard them come in, I'd definately have the advantage (as
compared to a mugging, etc.) Just a month or so ago a local guy (over
60, go seniors!) blew away some asshole who forced his way in the door
one evening. I'd hate to think what would have happened if he didn't
have a shotgun handy. Sigh. As if its not enough to worry about
crime (which will never go away), now we've got to worry about
protecting our right to self defense. Oh well, at least I'm going to
be as prepared as I can.
jim_d
several years ago. The instructor also taught law enforcement and
security officers, and part of the course pertained to self-defense
and the law (when is it justifiable to use deadly force). One comment
he made, which everybody in the room agreed with: It's better to be
judged by 12 than carried by 6...
Stangerize
much money as possible so they can fight for us and make our voices heard. I
see the polititions (who are also ex-lawyers) are getting pretty sneaky about
twisting facts around to further their agendas nowadays. They are trying to
make people think that the NRA isn't made up of members that fund it and stand
behind it. (Not directing this to anyone in this group) Hell, WE ARE the NRA.
The voices of reason. If ya wanna know... I'll tell ya the reason gun control
won't work. I just tell the facts and let people make up their own minds. A
closed mind gathers no knowledge.
There has been several case here where people with CCDWs have used their
weapons in self defense. About 1/3 are women. One was a bank manager that
stopped 2 seperate robberies. Crime and murders are down here in Louisville.
About 40 murders here last year. Down from 60 a few years ago. While Chicago
and New York (where handguns aren't allowed) have over 600 murders a year each.
Hmmm
>From: (GTBeast)
>I agree w/ you 100%. Even though it hurts to even consider the
>possibility, I'm worried that those who don't get in on ownership and
>liscensing now won't have the opportunity in a few years. Hell, look
>what they did in England and Australia. Their Olympic shooting teams
>have to go to a different country to train! Its ridiculous. The
>original reason I bought the Colt didn't have much to do w/
>concealment, however. There's been a disturbing increase in home
>invasions around here (it seems to be the preferred method of robbery
>now), and I just hated the idea of being helpless in my own home. And
>assuming I heard them come in, I'd definately have the advantage (as
>compared to a mugging, etc.) Just a month or so ago a local guy (over
>60, go seniors!) blew away some asshole who forced his way in the door
>one evening. I'd hate to think what would have happened if he didn't
>have a shotgun handy. Sigh. As if its not enough to worry about
>crime (which will never go away), now we've got to worry about
>protecting our right to self defense. Oh well, at least I'm going to
>be as prepared as I can.
flagge...@yahoo.com
I'm inclined to believe that a red car does attract more attention
(ie. unwanted attention). I think if there's a cop out there
on the 4 lane highway with his radar gun, he may be more likely to
hit a red car than a green one.
On the other hand, I've owned 2 red cars (1988 Chevy Beretta and
1992 Mustang LX 5.0 5speed). I was younger and more reckless
and never got a ticket.
The only time that I got tickets (long after selling those red
cars) was when I got a new job and had to drive on the PA
turnpike. I recieved tickets in a 1986 Yellow Buick Regal,
1987 Black Lincoln LSC, 1996 Cavalier Z24 and a 1996 Black
Mustang GT- in that order- All on the PA turnpike over a 4 year
period. (I've gone through lots of cars ;)
(now, 3 years and no tickets- knock on wood!)
So, maybe it's where you drive and not what you drive
(and more obviously, how you drive. I found that if you drive
in a more courteous way, and try not to weave in and out of
traffic, cops are less likely to get pissed off at you,
and radar is no help if you drive without other cars on the
road!)
Also, I drove (more or less) no different in any of my cars
(owned 14 so far). My good and bad driving habits are so ingrained
that I could be driving a 1981 Reliant and I'd still have the
same driving tendancies! (I believe it's the driver, not the car)
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Stangerize
>My wife and I took a handgun safety/and range instruction class
>several years ago. The instructor also taught law enforcement and
>security officers, and part of the course pertained to self-defense
>and the law (when is it justifiable to use deadly force). One comment
>he made, which everybody in the room agreed with: It's better to be
>judged by 12 than carried by 6...
I agree that's they way it should be. But there are fates worse than death. And
defending yourself in court would probably be a living hell. If you are
convicted, that would be a living hell for me at least. It's kind of a double
edged sword.
Stangerize
Wash. right now. Maybe they can stop this travesty of racially profiling red
cars over others.
LMAO
>From: flagge...@yahoo.com
>I'm inclined to believe that a red car does attract more attention
>(ie. unwanted attention). I think if there's a cop out there
>on the 4 lane highway with his radar gun, he may be more likely to
>hit a red car than a green one.
flagge...@yahoo.com
that I was reaching for looked a lot like a gun!
In article <20000317091639...@ng-fh1.aol.com>,
JD Adams
>
> Its a Compact, 3 1/2" barrel, 7 1/4" overall, a mere 34oz. Conceals
> quite well, actually. Only a six round mag, but I've got several.
> I'd rather shoot once w/ a .45 and do some damage than plink away w/
> some POS 9mm and hope he leans into it. To each his own, though.
Ahhh! I love chopped .45's. With a set of thin, smooth grips and a
good paddle holster, it would do nicely. 9's bite, although I hear
they're okay for rabbit-sized game. :)
Just one reason to avoid Kalifornia. The gun-nut hysteria out here is
unbelievable.
-JD
jim_d
choice.
On 17 Mar 2000 14:11:30 GMT, stang...@aol.comspamthis (Stangerize)
wrote:
>>From: Jim D
>
>>My wife and I took a handgun safety/and range instruction class
>>several years ago. The instructor also taught law enforcement and
>>security officers, and part of the course pertained to self-defense
>>and the law (when is it justifiable to use deadly force). One comment
>>he made, which everybody in the room agreed with: It's better to be
>>judged by 12 than carried by 6...
>
>I agree that's they way it should be. But there are fates worse than death. And
>defending yourself in court would probably be a living hell. If you are
>convicted, that would be a living hell for me at least. It's kind of a double
>edged sword.
>
Ganesha Ganapati
>I'm inclined to believe that a red car does attract more attention
>(ie. unwanted attention). I think if there's a cop out there
>on the 4 lane highway with his radar gun, he may be more likely to
>hit a red car than a green one.
>
>On the other hand, I've owned 2 red cars (1988 Chevy Beretta and
>1992 Mustang LX 5.0 5speed). I was younger and more reckless
>and never got a ticket.
My last Mustang (91 LX 5.0) and my current Mustang (98 GT convertible)
are both Arrest-Me Red. Never got a ticket in either of them.
This is kinda like the "Mustang == Cop Magnet" idea; it makes enough
sense that it MIGHT be true, but I have yet to see any evidence of it.
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James R Serwinowski
> stopped 2 seperate robberies. Crime and murders are down here in Louisville.
> About 40 murders here last year. Down from 60 a few years ago. While Chicago
> and New York (where handguns aren't allowed) have over 600 murders a
> year each.
> Hmmm
Um...NYC and Chicago are 10 times the size of Louisville. So, per capita,
the rate is about the same.
Hmm...
There are way, way, way more factors that contribute to murder rates than
if you're allowed to carry a handgun or not.
-Jim
Stangerize
>at least I wasn't shot 41 times because the registration
>that I was reaching for looked a lot like a gun!
ok, I'm glad to hear that.
Stangerize
>On 17 Mar 2000, Stangerize wrote:
>
>> stopped 2 seperate robberies. Crime and murders are down here in
>Louisville.
>> About 40 murders here last year. Down from 60 a few years ago. While
>Chicago
>> and New York (where handguns aren't allowed) have over 600 murders a
>> year each.
>> Hmmm
>
>Um...NYC and Chicago are 10 times the size of Louisville. So, per capita,
>the rate is about the same.
Jim, how many people are in NYC and Chicago? We just hit 1,000,000 here.
>Hmm...
>
>There are way, way, way more factors that contribute to murder rates than
>if you're allowed to carry a handgun or not.
But, in NYC and Chicago, handguns aren't allowed inside the city limits unless
you have 5 permits and dismantle it where it would take you 20 minutes to put
it back together when transporting it. Unless you're a criminal setting out to
do bad things of course.
And face it, if a criminal is setting out to commit felony murder, do you think
he cares if they tack on a misdemeanor charge of carrying a concealed weapon?
Of course not. But to someone like you and I, we do everything possible to stay
out of jail even on misdemeanors even. So we are deterred from carrying a gun
for protection in fear of being put in a cagefull of people we were trying to
keep away to begin with.
Marc Warden
eyeball cars as they go through the intersection and they do tend to notice
red cars, track them as they go through the intersection. Yellow cars too.
(White cars, even Mustangs, don't seem to attract much attention.)
Next time you're at the stoplight, note which cars you look at, which draw
your attention, as they go through the intersection.
They also track lowered cars, cars which are obviously modified, loud, or
have something noticably wrong with them: banged fender, missing bumper,
mis-matched paint.
The color red is an obvious color and most of the time one's eyes are drawn
to it. From this, if the driver was doing something wrong, I'd say he would
have the odds against him, being more likely his misbehavior would be
noticed by a cop and the more times one is noticed the more times one is
pulled over and the more tickets.
I guess the best thing one can do with a red car is to be very aware the car
is an eye magnet and always be aware of the traffic laws and obey them. One
can't get a ticket for having a red car, only for driving it in a citable
fashion.
Sincerely,
MarcW.
Marc Warden
Expressway exit and passed CHP car behind red Ferrari both parked on emergency
lane of freeway.
Officer standing on right side of Ferrari with citation book in hand.. The
Ferrari driver didn't look too happy.
Red car I think had nothing to do with it. CHP is using radar and radar is color
blind...
Sincerely,
MarcW.
nytebyte
wrote:
>Just today (Sunday) around 2:45pm, driving north on 101 just before Lawrence
>Expressway exit and passed CHP car behind red Ferrari both parked on emergency
>lane of freeway.
>
>Officer standing on right side of Ferrari with citation book in hand.. The
>Ferrari driver didn't look too happy.
>
>Red car I think had nothing to do with it. CHP is using radar and radar is color
>blind...
>
>Sincerely,
>
> MarcW.
>
I was thinking of painting my Stang with the same radar absorbing
paint they use on the F-117 stealth fighter. Anyone know where I can
get some? Or maybe I'll just mount a radar jammer pod from a
decommissioned A6 Intruder on my roof.
Marc Warden
a signature about the size of a bird -- don't know the signature of a non-stealth
plane of similar size -- elephant maybe?) not from its paint so much as from its
shape.
Sincerely,
MarcW.
Ganesha Ganapati
>I was thinking of painting my Stang with the same radar absorbing
>paint they use on the F-117 stealth fighter. Anyone know where I can
>get some?
The PX over at Area 51 sells it, as well as that alien tinfoil that
absorbs all forms of electromagnetic radiation (including radar).
nytebyte
<mwa...@diabloresearch.com> wrote:
>The F-117 gets its small radar signature (it is not quite invisible to radar having
>a signature about the size of a bird -- don't know the signature of a non-stealth
>plane of similar size -- elephant maybe?) not from its paint so much as from its
>shape.
>
>Sincerely,
>
> MarcW.
>
How about a triangular shaped hood, bumper, and windshield. I guess
that's going too far. I think I'm going to build my own radar jammer
out of an old microwave oven. Or maybe just buy a Valentine 1.
Jim
Ganesha Ganapati
>How about a triangular shaped hood, bumper, and windshield.
Sounds like those new Toyota Celicas. ;-)
LAW...@webtv.net
because they are more likely to get a traffic ticket. But I own a
vermillion red 94' GT and after the wife smeared a dog with the nose
piece, and I had to pay to have it painted, I now know why RED cars
insurance is so much............ something about tri-coat paint, it
costs out the wa-zooo!!
590
jan...@my-deja.com
flagge...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> So, maybe it's where you drive and not what you drive
> (and more obviously, how you drive. I found that if you drive
> in a more courteous way, and try not to weave in and out of
> traffic, cops are less likely to get pissed off at you,
> and radar is no help if you drive without other cars on the
> road!)
>
> Also, I drove (more or less) no different in any of my cars
> (owned 14 so far). My good and bad driving habits are so ingrained
> that I could be driving a 1981 Reliant and I'd still have the
> same driving tendancies! (I believe it's the driver, not the car)
>
>
Yes, I agree. I have never received a speeding ticket in my life. I
really don't drive differently in different cars. I've never really
been a speeder, a weaver, or a tailgater. The only thing in the Mustang
is that it is certainly *easier* to go faster, and I must keep an eye on
the speedometer. However, I like to joke with people that driving fast
is not really the issue for me, GETTING THERE in the Mustang is way more
fun!
There have been some very back wrecks on the interstate near me, and the
police are really stepping up their patrols. However, I find when I
don't take the interstate and take the back roads, the police are
*always* watching and seemingly just waiting for me to speed up.
--
Janet
94 GT Convertible
Vibrant Red/White/White
Check it out! http://home.mho.net/mhanna/ramfm/janet/janet.html