WARNING: Mazda Motors Is Corrupt, Makes Shit Cars... BEWARE!!!!!!
mazda...@aol.com
I would like to warn people about the morally-bankrupt behavior of
Mazda Corporation and its pattern of lies and fraud on the American
public in the sales and marketing of its cars. If you buy one of
their cars, despite warnings from many of their dissatisfied customers
as to how they abandon you and essentially tell you to go to hell once
their warranty has expired, you at least have been forewarned. Buyer
beware!!!!!
There are PLENTY of cars out on the road, even dubiously maintained,
that can last 120,000- 150,000 miles and more, Mazda's RX-7 is not one
of them!
I made the mistake of trusting this company in purchasing one of their
Mazda RX-7's back in 1986, paying the equivalent of what would today
be $30,000 for that piece of garbage. Their glowing sales literature
propaganda extolled the unbelievable virtues of their proprietary
rotary engine, how superior it was to the standard piston engine every
other car manufacturer uses.
Yeah, it was unbelievable alright, it was all a complete lie. There's
a reason NO OTHER CAR COMPANY ON THE PLANET bothers with this stupid
rotary-engine technology. And that reason is because it is inferior,
inferior in terms of gas consumption, in terms of longevity, in terms
of repair costs, in terms of power and performance. And Mazda knew
this, yet they lied to sell their product and rip money off their
customers.
Yet Mazda stupidly bought the rights to this technology from Wankel
NSU. And since they were stuck with this technology, and because they
wanted to somehow make a name for themselves and differentiate their
product, they continued to pursue this inferior technology. AND lie
to and dupe consumers into buying the crap for no other reason than to
corruptly make money and recover their financial investment in this
loser technology.
It is because Mazda was fully aware that this rotary technology was in
fact full of drawbacks and inferiorities, which is why no other car
company on the planet ever cared to adopt and pursue this technology,
yet they continued to lie to the public anyway and push it on
unsuspecting car buyers, and to leave those buyers in the dust when it
came time to face repair costs of this outrageously-expensive-to-fix
engine, well this is why I and other owners want to warn people to
stay away from this lowlife outfit if they want to avoid being taken
to the cleaners.
I tend to keep my cars a long time and I take excellent care of them
in the meantime. As a result, I am used to my cars LASTING a long
time. Yet this RX-7 hasn't even made it to middle age compare to most
other cars on the road, let alone the ones I've owned.
Despite having babied this car, rigidly adhering to extremely
expensive factory maintenance schedules, always paying for
factory-authorized-dealer service, and having sunk about $15,000 into
repairs over the years, it had not even made it to 100,000 miles
before it started showing evidence of terminal engine failure. And
this is about 90% easy long-distance freeway miles, no less!
I was able to coax about another year's use out of the thing, but it
is now on its deathbed, requiring about $5,000 more of repairs if it
is to once again be on the street. Yet blue book is only $3500 for
the whole car, making this investment unwise, and showing you how
badly these stupid cars perform financially, they do not keep any real
value. Nor should they, they are garbage, full of one problem after
another.
And the only reason it requires this massive investment is because it
uses their shit rotary engines. Had it been a standard piston engine,
it could be overhauled economically and it could join the ranks of
many American and Japanese autos that continue to roll on through
130,000 or 150,000 AND MORE miles.
And my problem is NOT an isolated case. Every Mazda dealer I spoke
with seemed to think that 100,000 miles is about normal expected life
for one of these cars before it requires this type of
massively-expensive overhaul. Some of them seemed surprised it made
it this far, like as if, wow, I should be really proud or something!!
Yet look at the vast number of vehicles that seem to have no problem
lasting WELL beyond that, even with corner-garage service! I myself
have owned two Audis that were pushing 200,000 miles, several others
well into the mid-100,000 miles range before I finally SOLD them, I
have no idea how much longer they may have lasted, as far as I know
they may still be on the road!!!!
Yet my Mazda, which I babied beyond all reasonableness, and cost me a
fortune to maintain over the years, is now good for nothing but the
junk-heap.
And yes, ok, many cars may need an engine overhaul around 100,000
miles or so, but at least it can be done reasonably, rebuild the
engine for maybe $800 or so. But you can't do that with a rotary
engine, you essentially have to throw it away. The dealer quotes me
an installed cost of about $4000 for a new engine and fuel
injectors!!!!!!
If the car had been reliable except for this, or had I not properly
maintained it, it might be one thing and I might not be so pissed at
now having to throw the car away. But this repair comes on top of a
new $2000 transmission put in last year, and a litany of other
problems since day one. Massive electrical problems, frequent
radiator malfunctions that the dealers can't seem to fix, this having
gone wrong, that having gone wrong, paint problems, rust problems,
...and on and on and on....
.....AND ALL THE WHILE MAZDA MOTORS TELLING ME AND EVERY OTHER
CUSTOMER OF THEIRS TO GO TO HELL, YOUR CAR IS OUT OF WARRANTY!!!!!
Don't believe me??? Look at all the other posts here and there where
customers report the same thing......Mazda Corporation refusing to fix
defects that obviously started and existed while the car was new, yet
hiding behind the fact that they have no legal obligation to fix the
defect since the warranty expired.
Is THIS the kind of company you want to do business with and invest
$15,000 or $20,000 or $25,000 of your money with, to buy a car from a
company that they has no hesitation to blatantly misrepresent and lie
about its products, and leave its customers in the dirt when they are
forced to deal with the resulting problems? I doubt it. You don't
need this kind of headache. I certainly would never have bought this
car had they not seriously lied about the phony "benefits" of this
garbage rotary engine.
And you want to know the truth? When I complained to Mazda
Corporation's Customer Non-Service Manager about having been defrauded
into buying into their lies and inferior technology, you know what the
bastard told me? Too bad, I should have known better...ALL car
companies lie and say their cars are better than the others...so it
was my OWN stupid fault for trusting Mazda!!!!
Don't let it be yours.
Buy a decent car. Like a Toyota.
I also own a 21-year-old Toyota little pickup truck....they continue
to stand behind their product, if you can believe this, by subsidizing
a headers repair because they later found out it was a factory defect.
And this was them VOLUNTEERING the repair, I hadn't even needed it or
asked for it!! And this for a 21-year old truck that has seen
God-knows how many owners, and serviced God-knows where!!!
Mazda, on the other hand, wouldn't be caught dead paying for a repair
much beyond the warranty period, if they thought they could get away
with it! Read the posts from other disgruntled Mazda
customers.....they seem to love to tell their customers, "Solly, car
out of wallanty....too bad for you, now sayonara!"
Not only that, but Mazda Corporation seems to make a high art form out
of avoiding responsibility for ANYTHING and trying to find any excuse
imaginable for weaseling out of giving their customers any help. If
you have a problem with one of their dealers, for instance, who may
have performed faulty repairs, they will tell you to go to hell, they
will give you NO help, they will tell you it's between you and the
dealer. This even though THEY are responsible for having franchised
that dealer in the first place, and for having given him a geographic
monopoly to exclude other dealers who may have treated their customers
ethically, they will refuse to help you pressure their dealer to give
you any satisfaction of your problem. . But then again, MAZDA'S
MESSAGE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS IS TO ABANDON THEM, TO TELL THEM TO GO TO
HELL!!!
And I have dealt with a number of Mazda's dealers, many of them are
shockingly corrupt and hopelessly incompetent in performing repairs.
But then again, I guess they just take after their Corporate Daddy.
If you are a Mazda owner with similar complaints of garbage product
and no backup from the Madza Mr.Corporates, please forward your story
to me.....I am planning to assemble a critical mass of complaints from
other similar Mazda victims and republish the entire compilation to
maybe drive this useless brand completely out of the North American
market once and for all and save other people from being its victims.
Please send your information to:
Thanks, good luck, and buy Toyota or Honda.....THOSE cars will last!
Kirk Rafferty
mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
8<... <snip>
: with it! Read the posts from other disgruntled Mazda
: customers.....they seem to love to tell their customers, "Solly, car
: out of wallanty....too bad for you, now sayonara!"
Hey pal, you got a bad deal, and that sucks. But just as I was going to
go on to the next post and ignore your impassioned plea (I mean, how long
has it been common knowledge that rotory engines suck?), I came across
the above little gem. When you start resorting to ethnic steriotypes,
you're the real asshole. Grow up, see the real world, read a book, and
throw away your Doc Martens. Then make an intelligent argument.
--k
(My opinions are my own, not my companies)
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mazda...@aol.com
rafferty@gateway (Kirk Rafferty) wrote:
>mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
>8<... <snip>
>: with it! Read the posts from other disgruntled Mazda
>: customers.....they seem to love to tell their customers, "Solly, car
>: out of wallanty....too bad for you, now sayonara!"
>8<... <snip>
>Hey pal, you got a bad deal, and that sucks. But just as I was going to
>go on to the next post and ignore your impassioned plea (I mean, how long
>has it been common knowledge that rotory engines suck?), I came across
>the above little gem. When you start resorting to ethnic steriotypes,
>you're the real asshole. Grow up, see the real world, read a book, and
>throw away your Doc Martens. Then make an intelligent argument.
What a nice Politically-Correct kiss-ass dupe. Apparently you don't
realize that the Japanese are among the biggest racist bigots on the
planet, and they regularly look down on Americans like you and me as
if we were all a bunch of stupid, backward, uneducated, redneck hicks
and they were part of the Master Race. Apparently you forgot about
all their nice messages of their own self-styled racial superiority
during WWII, and all their recent words of praise for our American
blacks. What an imbecile.....why do you hold blatant racists in such
high esteem and defend them? You're just a typical knee-jerk
politically-correct naive white boy dupe. Everybody can do no wrong,
but your own white people can do no right. Hypocrite too. How many
orientals live in YOUR neighborhood, how many have you dated, how many
do you have as friends?
And sorry, many ethnic stereotypes are 100% valid. Doesn't make
ANYBODY an "asshole" to be willing to discuss them, so long as they're
true.
>--k
Monte Greene
mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
>rafferty@gateway (Kirk Rafferty) wrote:
>>mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
>>8<... <snip>
>>: with it! Read the posts from other disgruntled Mazda
>>: customers.....they seem to love to tell their customers, "Solly, car
>>: out of wallanty....too bad for you, now sayonara!"
>>8<... <snip>
>>--k
Dear racist dipshit (mazda...@aol.com),
Ok, first you slam the Japanese with your racist stereotyping, and
then you turn around and call them the bigots? What the f#$% is wrong
with this picture? And you call Mr. Rafferty a hypocrite?
Geezus...pull your head out of your ass, you "stupid, backward,
uneducated, redneck hick"...junk your Mazda, buy a Mustang, and come
back to the newsgroup when you've grown up a little.
Also, I don't recall seing any "discussion" of anything in your
original post, much less a "discussion" of stereotypes. All I read
was a bunch of ranting and raving with some racism thrown in. And,
before you ask, and not that it's any of your business, but I happen
to have several asian friends and I happen to be half asian myself.
So don't give me any of that "hypocrite" BS.
Most very sincerely,
Monte Greene
Proud American, and
driver of an '88 5.0L LX
Monte Greene
mgr...@cts.com (Monte Greene) wrote:
>mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
>>rafferty@gateway (Kirk Rafferty) wrote:
>>>mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
>>>8<... <snip>
>>>: with it! Read the posts from other disgruntled Mazda
>>>: customers.....they seem to love to tell their customers, "Solly, car
>>>: out of wallanty....too bad for you, now sayonara!"
>>>8<... <snip>
>>>--k
>Dear racist dipshit (mazda...@aol.com),
> Most very sincerely,
Oh...And have a nice day!
Kirk Rafferty
mazda...@aol.com (mazda...@aol.com) wrote:
: What a nice Politically-Correct kiss-ass dupe. Apparently you don't
: realize that the Japanese are among the biggest racist bigots on the
: planet, and they regularly look down on Americans like you and me as
: if we were all a bunch of stupid, backward, uneducated, redneck hicks
: and they were part of the Master Race.
Did you write this, or are you quoting out of one of your Shawn Slater
pamphlets? Whatever, I think I follow your logic. If someone else is a
racist bigot, it's alright for me to be a bigot too. Man, try to have
an original thought.
And this begs asking: What are you even buying Japanese cars for?
: Apparently you forgot about
: all their nice messages of their own self-styled racial superiority
: during WWII, and all their recent words of praise for our American
: blacks. What an imbecile.....why do you hold blatant racists in such
: high esteem and defend them? You're just a typical knee-jerk
: politically-correct naive white boy dupe. Everybody can do no wrong,
: but your own white people can do no right. Hypocrite too. How many
: orientals live in YOUR neighborhood, how many have you dated, how many
: do you have as friends?
Apparantly you forgot about the japanese internment camps and the bigotry
against Japanese-americans. No wait, I guess you DO remember the bigotry,
being a card-carrying member of that particular little group of roaches.
My point here is not to defend the whole of Japanese history. So don't
even go there because history is full of racism. For every racist
incident you come up with, I can come up with one (easily) from the other
camp. And sorry to sound like Mr. PC here, but you do nothing but propigate
racism every time you reenforce an ethnic stereotype.
: And sorry, many ethnic stereotypes are 100% valid. Doesn't make
: ANYBODY an "asshole" to be willing to discuss them, so long as they're
: true.
: mazda...@aol.com
I'm sorry, I just have to repeat this--"Many ethnic stereotypes are 100%
valid"?!?!?!? REALLY? Do you really believe that or are you just
paraphrasing "Mein Kampf"?
--k
Carrags
lets ll love one another and remember the golden rule guys to get what you
give---peace to all,