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caroli...@hotmail.com

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the
z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course

狂人

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In <35d9d304....@news.jps.net>, on 08/26/98

Read a tad more about 1999 Cobra...

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David Lyons

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caroli...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the
> z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
> rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
> reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
> would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course

But a Mustang with a modified suspension *can*. So if riceboys can
add performance to their engines, Mustang guys can add performance to
their suspensions.

Besides, most of these confrontations are on the street. Taking 1g
corners on the street to beat riceboys is unnecessary. The stock
Mustang suspension is adequate enough for beating riceboys in
practically all street confrontation situations.

Dave

ASmall9494

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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>From: David Lyons

Uh, actually no. You guys are giving fats way too much leeway here. The
average rice rocket is an ill handling front wheel drive POS. That's really
all there is to it. Now granted there are some good maybe even great handling
ones like the Supra and RX7s or even the NSX, but these really aren't even in
the same league as a mustang anyway. Now if I were to plonk down the same
dough as say a Stang GT, the best I could get would be a Miata or a Prelude.
Both would lose in a straight line badly, and the Prelude really is no better
in turns especially on a road course. A road course usually has bigger turns
and plenty of straights too.

Your real rice boy is usually out there putting around in a 4 door Civic, CRX,
or base model Integra. Now if you expect me to believe any of these will whip
a stang around a road course, you are just a tad bit uneducated to put it
mildly.

Anthony

riored97cobra#301
<a href="http://members.aol.com/asmall9494/index.html">Michelle and Anthony's
Cobra</a>
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JasonH@work

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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David Lyons wrote:
>
> caroli...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the
> > z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
> > rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
> > reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
> > would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course
>
> But a Mustang with a modified suspension *can*. So if riceboys can
> add performance to their engines, Mustang guys can add performance to
> their suspensions.
>
> Besides, most of these confrontations are on the street. Taking 1g
> corners on the street to beat riceboys is unnecessary. The stock
> Mustang suspension is adequate enough for beating riceboys in
> practically all street confrontation situations.
>
> Dave


I would like to make the designation "rice boy" clear. Not all Jap cars
are Rice Cars.

I know plenty of "Riced out" domestics too.

Personally I don't think the Stock Stang Susp, has the right stuff to
hang with the RX7, 300Z, Supra Turbo...A stock Civic? I would hope so.

Dean E. Lopez

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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ASmall9494 <asmal...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199808261330...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

>
> Your real rice boy is usually out there putting around in a 4 door Civic,
CRX,
> or base model Integra. Now if you expect me to believe any of these will
whip
> a stang around a road course, you are just a tad bit uneducated to put it
> mildly.
>

Yep, just flashy ECONOMY cars. That's all they are.

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Keane Gruending

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Im not a very good racer, and my car isnt even that great, but I would still
not flinch to cream some of those stupid Sunfire's or those hashed out Z24
Cavalier's that cruise my local town ( which everyone knows they look nice,
but still are a cavalier underneath the skin). Some people think their cars
are so great, and I hear people commenting all the time, " Oh look, doug got
a beautiful car", and the jocks will be going "Heeeey buddy, thats a GREAT
car!" and all it would be is a japanese celica with a base engine and tinted
windows...tsk tsk

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Michael Ereon

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Group: rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang Date: Wed, Aug 26, 1998, 10:04am
(EDT-3) From: Jas...@cttel.net (JasonH@work) Re: whats all this about
rice boy racing

I would like to make the designation "rice boy" clear. Not all Jap cars
are Rice Cars.

**Egads, Jason. We know this.

I know plenty of "Riced out" domestics too.

**I seen a couple 3rd/4th gen Camaros and Fox/SN95 Mustangs riced out.
A couple Cavy's, and thankfully no one has the audacity to rice out
G-Body's. Those cars rule.

Personally I don't think the Stock Stang Susp, has the right stuff to
hang with the RX7, 300Z, Supra Turbo..

**True, but it will give them a run for the money. The Pony cars aren't
slouch's like everyone seems to think.

A stock Civic? I would hope so.

**A heavily modded Civic still won't stand a chance with a stock GT or
Cobra.

See ya!
Mike
*****
The dude formerly known as BANDIT80 and MontePooh!
****
1986 Pontiac Grand Prix LE LG-4 5.0


JasonH@work

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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Michael Ereon wrote:

Are you following me? Quit tailgating! ;)

Matt Bryda

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:26:35 -0600, Keane Gruending
<kea...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Im not a very good racer, and my car isnt even that great, but I would still
>not flinch to cream some of those stupid Sunfire's or those hashed out Z24
>Cavalier's that cruise my local town ( which everyone knows they look nice,
>but still are a cavalier underneath the skin). Some people think their cars
>are so great, and I hear people commenting all the time, " Oh look, doug got
>a beautiful car", and the jocks will be going "Heeeey buddy, thats a GREAT
>car!" and all it would be is a japanese celica with a base engine and tinted
>windows...tsk tsk

I guess I got the ULTIMATE complement the other week when the
drivers one of those cars (decked out Cavalier) was staring at me in
my Cobra while I was stopped at a light. You could see him as he
turned the corner and his head turned to look at the car.
I just can't help to laugh at one of those cars when I see
them. If they spent the $$ that they have in decals and ground
effects on a car, they too might be able to drive a REAL car!

-Matt

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Dean E. Lopez wrote in message
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>ASmall9494 <asmal...@aol.com> wrote in article
><199808261330...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>>
>> Your real rice boy is usually out there putting around in a 4 door Civic,
>CRX,
>> or base model Integra. Now if you expect me to believe any of these will
>whip
>> a stang around a road course, you are just a tad bit uneducated to put it
>> mildly.
>>
>
>Yep, just flashy ECONOMY cars. That's all they are.


FLASHY? You mean FUGLY!!!!!!

Les
85 GT

狂人

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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In <35e44b44....@news.paonline.com>, on 08/26/98
at 05:54 PM, mbr...@pa.nospam.net (Matt Bryda) said:

> I guess I got the ULTIMATE complement the other week when the drivers one
>of those cars (decked out Cavalier) was staring at me in my Cobra while I
>was stopped at a light. You could see him as he turned the corner and his
>head turned to look at the car.

At least, he knows better than to race a Mustang Cobra (fully decked out
too, except it comes stock this way... :) )

> I just can't help to laugh at one of those cars when I see
>them. If they spent the $$ that they have in decals and ground effects on
>a car, they too might be able to drive a REAL car!

Pretty darn true... :)

JasonH

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Aug 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/26/98
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This is a true story.
I was on my way home from work today. Tired, lookin forward to the
evening...you know, just blowing the day off.

I get on the highway and not even a 1/4 mile later I have this 94+ GT on my
back bumper steaming up my rear view. A young kid with the standard rice boy
ball cap.

Theres a lot of traffic and such so I don't bite....yet.

Because of traffic I end up in the left lane about 15 cars ahead of him.

Now we are at a point where the highway splits, three lanes left, one lane
right to another interstate.

I'm in the lane next to that right lane and what happens? The kid comes up
on me at about mach 6 almost hits me, and swings over to the right exit lane
and gooses the gas like he won the Indy 500!

A quick glance tells me I can still make the right lane without impaling
myself on a guide rail. So I swing into that lane right behind him...this
young man was gettin a spankin.

We are now both behind other cars as the exit ramp enters the new highway.
Lane clear, the Stang rears up and takes off making a lot of noise. (some
kind of obvious exhaust work)
I neatly click into third, set my boost regulator to kill, and hawk down
this "kid" within 50 yards. I blow by him at least by 15 to 20mph, and leave
him with his uh, "shifter" in his hand.

Flashers on, he passes me and swings across 4 lanes, flips me off and
proceeds to almost kill several people.

"There are *ss*oles everywhere, some drive Hondas some drive Mustangs.
Truthfully, I hope you guys are teaching these "kids" that a stock 94+
Stang, is, in reality, a low 15 second car.

--
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Subic Sailor

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JasonH wrote in message <6s2fch$al6$1...@kali.ziplink.net>...
:This is a true story.

:I was on my way home from work today. Tired, lookin forward to the
:evening...you know, just blowing the day off.
:
:I get on the highway and not even a 1/4 mile later I have this 94+ GT on my
:back bumper steaming up my rear view. A young kid with the standard rice
boy
:ball cap.
:
Shoulda kicked his ass and taken the car for a real ride. :)


:Theres a lot of traffic and such so I don't bite....yet.
:

Yet? -hehe-


:Because of traffic I end up in the left lane about 15 cars ahead of him.


:
:Now we are at a point where the highway splits, three lanes left, one lane
:right to another interstate.
:
:I'm in the lane next to that right lane and what happens? The kid comes up
:on me at about mach 6 almost hits me, and swings over to the right exit
lane
:and gooses the gas like he won the Indy 500!


He deserves a Chevy(any Chevy). Pushing it at that.

:
:A quick glance tells me I can still make the right lane without impaling


:myself on a guide rail. So I swing into that lane right behind him...this
:young man was gettin a spankin.

:

Watch out for the for the PC police. He deserved the spanking.


:We are now both behind other cars as the exit ramp enters the new highway.


:Lane clear, the Stang rears up and takes off making a lot of noise. (some
:kind of obvious exhaust work)
:I neatly click into third, set my boost regulator to kill, and hawk down
:this "kid" within 50 yards. I blow by him at least by 15 to 20mph, and
leave
:him with his uh, "shifter" in his hand.
:
:Flashers on, he passes me and swings across 4 lanes, flips me off and
:proceeds to almost kill several people.


Flashers as in 'hazard lights'?
What is it with everyone getting flipped off when they win...?

:
:"There are *ss*oles everywhere, some drive Hondas some drive Mustangs.

Some drive Chevys and Mazdas too.

:Truthfully, I hope you guys are teaching these "kids" that a stock 94+

:
:

keith jack

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In Article <35e4a188....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com

(White Tornado Jr. ) wrote:
>>I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the
>>z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
>>rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
>>reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
>>would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course
>
>I just "raced" a stock base model 3000GT in a 95 Escort. 0-50 the
>3000GT was only 1 car length ahead.

I know the handling and power of my mustang isn't close to the
300ZX turbo I had. Still miss that car...felt like it was
superglued to the road when cornering.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Keith Jack
Author: Video Demystified
kj...@video-demystified.com
http://www.video-demystified.com/

White Tornado Jr.

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>I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the
>z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
>rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
>reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
>would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course

I just "raced" a stock base model 3000GT in a 95 Escort. 0-50 the
3000GT was only 1 car length ahead.

160hp in a 3700lb car doesn't go very far.


Jared Rude

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Michael Ereon wrote

>I would like to make the designation "rice boy" clear. Not all Jap cars
>are Rice Cars.
>
>**Egads, Jason. We know this.
>
>I know plenty of "Riced out" domestics too.
>
>**I seen a couple 3rd/4th gen Camaros and Fox/SN95 Mustangs riced out.
>A couple Cavy's, and thankfully no one has the audacity to rice out
>G-Body's. Those cars rule.

Yes, I have experienced this. Actually the other day I pulled up to a light
and a race type import (notice I didn't use riceboy) pulled up next to me.
As we were sitting there I looked over at his car and noticed he was looking
at my LX (which is all stock body). As we were sitting there a really riced
out forrest green metallic convertible Mustang with the 13"x10" wire wheels
drove through the intersection. It had stickers, gold badges,door and fender
trim, rice wing, gold exhaust tips, basically the works. We both looked at
each other, laughed and shook our heads. It was pretty funny. It was
understood that that particular Mustang was stupid looking. I guess it was
automotive based male bonding. Not all import racers are too bad. Just the
ricey ones.

--
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David Lyons

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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JasonH wrote:
>
> Flashers on, he passes me and swings across 4 lanes, flips me off and
> proceeds to almost kill several people.

What is it with young'ns these days flipping off their elders after
receiving their well-deserved spanking?

Although I haven't been in any street run-ins with these adolescents,
if it happened to me and I didn't have anywhere else to go, after the
ubiquitous flip-off, I'd like to follow the punk until he pulled over
somewhere. Then I'd get out, walk up to his car, get right in his
face and camly ask, "why did you flip me off?"

Dave

Joe Breitenbach

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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Kids these days... ;)

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies

Michael Ereon

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Group: rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang Date: Thu, Aug 27, 1998, 12:01am
(EDT+4) From: TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White Tornado Jr.) Re:

whats all this about rice boy racing

I just "raced" a stock base model 3000GT in a 95 Escort. 0-50 the 3000GT


was only 1 car length ahead.

**How many cars do you have???

160hp in a 3700lb car doesn't go very far.

**Lets not forget the weight of the driver, plus 150, a couple amps and
a sub enclosure, plus 75. Thats a helft 2 ton pig.

ASmall9494

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>From: JD & Mona

>>"There are *ss*oles everywhere, some drive Hondas some drive Mustangs.

>>Truthfully, I hope you guys are teaching these "kids" that a stock 94+
>>Stang, is, in reality, a low 15 second car.
>

>We're in agreement. Every once in a while, some kid in a Stang will
>pass us on the freeway thinking he has someone won a race that never
>existed, nearly rear-end someone, cut across 3 lanes nearly killing
>half-dozen people, cut off a semi in some quasi-suicidal rage, then take
>an exit at twice the normal speed, squealing through it in a smokey
>haze. This is racing???
>
>We'll pass! I'll head over to the track in Stockton if we want to get
>it on, and leave the street racing for the ...uh, kids.
>
>--
>
>Warm regards,
>
>JD & Mona

I'll have to do my part as an AOL customer and say ME TOO!!!! Now I also
concur, street racing is for fools. The best that can come out of it is
nothing or maybe you gain money immorally. The worst is jail, impounded auto,
or even just a traffic fine. If you get enough fines, one day you'll find that
you can no longer afford to drive anything fast at all. You'll end up in an
Escort, and it'll be your only car not just your commuter. Even worse, you
could get hurt or hurt someone else and have to live with the guilt the rest of
your life. But look who I'm talking to, a bunch of screwed up kids that
already know everything anyway. See them all the time, can't even spell
halfway. Illiteracy is not the mark of someone who is cool; its the mark of a
poor education that will haunt you little morons the rest of your lives. I
personally don't care what you guys do, but if anyone hurts me, my property, or
my family street racing rest assured you will suffer according to the strictist
punishments the laws can impose. I'll see to it myself. Leave your racing to
the track, or at least have the decency to do it in the boonies away from
everyone else. If you want to tear up your car and yourself have a blast, just
don't involve others on your local highway.

White Tornado Jr.

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>**How many cars do you have???

Four. Do you want to buy a Ford Escort? Only raced rarely.

NoOption5L

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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In article <35E541CF...@atl.hp.com>, David Lyons <lyo...@atl.hp.com>
writes:

>> Flashers on, he passes me and swings across 4 lanes, flips me off and
>> proceeds to almost kill several people.

>What is it with young'ns these days flipping off their elders after
>receiving their well-deserved spanking?

>Although I haven't been in any street run-ins with these adolescents,
>if it happened to me and I didn't have anywhere else to go, after the
>ubiquitous flip-off, I'd like to follow the punk until he pulled over
>somewhere. Then I'd get out, walk up to his car, get right in his
>face and camly ask, "why did you flip me off?"

Before you try this, consider the chance that one of these "punks" might greet
you with the long end of a 38. It's sad that America seems to be reverting
back to an old wild west mentality. If you don't like somebody, they piss you
off, or they threaten to get even, just shoot 'em.

Patrick

Black/Grey '87 5 liter 5 speed LX

NoOption5L

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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In article <35e5f95a....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) writes:

Now it's your turn WT. G*d if CJ sees that you followed him, he will kill me!
Oh well, I'm living dangerously....here goes.

>>**How many cars do you have???

>Four.

OK, for the ones that don't know, you own a '91(?) Mistu Eclipse, '95 (?) Mazda
RX-7, Ford Escort, and some sort of vehicle with a Windsor motor.

First the Eclipse. How did you decide on buying one? Any outside influences?
When did you buy it? Tell us briefly the progression of its modifications and
ETs.

On to the RX-7. What's the plan for this one? In a year or so, where do you
want the car to be with mods?

Now your favorite, the Escort. You hate this car right? Then why do you keep
it? Just a back and forth to work beater? Any chance it's starting to grow on
you just a little bit ><? Or is it because you know you will never mod it?
Don't want the beater to suck the performance funds away from your real cars,
right? <Flash a light comes on> Heyyyy, how about grafting on a Turbo from an
SVO Mustang, then a bleeder valve, a 75hp hit of NOS.....those "Rice Boys"
would never know what hit 'em.... =-)

And now the mystery vehicle is revealed.... A PUSHROD Windsor?...and a
carburetor too? Its gotta be an older Ford pickup, right? Just a parts
chaser? Did I nail it?

When and how did your fascination with cars start? Do you hold ANY
appreciation for the "classic" Detroit stuff? <whispering> You can answer
honestly, CJ's gone for a while, and we won't tell if/when he comes back. IF,
(I know it's a big IF) you were to pick out a old musclecar what would it be?
There's got to be ONE you kinda like....

Now back to your type of questions. You have a garage with ten slots to fill,
what's on the short list? Here I'll help a little. An AWD Porshe 944 Turbo,
and I think the new C5 is growing on you (I know its growing on me! At first I
thought the styling was little bland, but now, WOW! And how about that new Jag
two seater....oh sorry, I started to get carried away,...where were we? Oh
yeah, go ahead its your list.

I already know; but tell the rest of the group where your screen name came
from?

I planned on keeping these interviews completely auto-related, but with you
*other* questions were unavoidable. If you don't want to answer these, snip it
right here*

When did you first post...sorry...troll our newsgroup? You *were* (wrong
word?) one hell of a troll! Why did you go away for a while? It was about a 6
month absence, right? What keeps you coming back here? Could the F-body or
some other group ever replace us, and become your foster newsgroup home?

Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in the
hat. C'mon....

Tygress(Emily)

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On 28 Aug 1998 04:56:01 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:


<huge snip>

>Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in the
>hat. C'mon....

I leave for a while, and now he thinks he's Colombo?? <dated
reference for all the geezers out there ;] > And just who tossed
my name in this hat? Can I toss one in?


'85 Cutlass 383, 700R-4, 3.70 posi, NOS cheater
12.60's on the engine
11.34 on NOS
'69 Camaro 421sb, 1200 ATI @ 13 psi, intercooled,
Big Shot plate, autocross suspension

NoOption5L

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In article <35e73ede....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
(Tygress(Emily)) writes:

> <huge snip>

>>Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in
>the hat. C'mon....

>I leave for a while, and now he thinks he's Colombo?? <dated
>reference for all the geezers out there ;]

Colombo? You mean Christopher Colombo? He was the one that found Spain right?
Or was heee the captain of the Titanic? <long pause> Or...was
he?...Gilligan....oh, what was the Skippers name, the Skipper was a captain
right? Now you got me confused. What was the question again? <AOLness
showing

>And just who tossed my name in this hat?

Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for days.

>Can I toss one in?

Only if your name is on it.

David Lyons

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NoOption5L wrote:
>
> Now back to your type of questions. You have a garage with ten slots to fill,
> what's on the short list? Here I'll help a little. An AWD Porshe 944 Turbo,
> and I think the new C5 is growing on you (I know its growing on me! At first I
> thought the styling was little bland, but now, WOW! And how about that new Jag
> two seater....oh sorry, I started to get carried away,...where were we? Oh
> yeah, go ahead its your list.

Hey! I wanna play, too!

In alphabetical order...

1970 Buick GSX
1987 Buick GNX
1987 Buick Regal T-Type (I'd want a car I could modify)
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS454 LS6
1996 Chevrolet Impala SS
1999 Dodge Dakota R/T
1974 Ford Falcon XB
1998 Ford Falcon GT
1988 Ford Mustang 5.0 (to modify, like the T-Type)
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351
1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R
199X Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 4.6 (another car to modify)
199X Holden Commodore SS
1998 Nissan Skyline GT-R
1969 Plymouth Hemi Road Runner
1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda

So it's more than 10. I can't make up my mind.

Dave

NoOption5L

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In article <35E69549...@atl.hp.com>, David Lyons <lyo...@atl.hp.com>
writes:

>> Now back to your type of questions. You have a garage with ten slots to


>fill,
>> what's on the short list? Here I'll help a little. An AWD Porshe 944
>Turbo,
>> and I think the new C5 is growing on you (I know its growing on me! At
>first I
>> thought the styling was little bland, but now, WOW! And how about that new
>Jag
>> two seater....oh sorry, I started to get carried away,...where were we? Oh
>> yeah, go ahead its your list.

>Hey! I wanna play, too!

So your throwing your name in the hat?

>In alphabetical order...

>1970 Buick GSX
>1987 Buick GNX
>1987 Buick Regal T-Type (I'd want a car I could modify)
>1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS454 LS6
>1996 Chevrolet Impala SS
>1999 Dodge Dakota R/T

>1974 Ford Falcon XB

What is this car?

>1998 Ford Falcon GT

Are these two Australian cars?

>1988 Ford Mustang 5.0 (to modify, like the T-Type)
>1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
>1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351
>1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R
>199X Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 4.6 (another car to modify)
>199X Holden Commodore SS
>1998 Nissan Skyline GT-R
>1969 Plymouth Hemi Road Runner
>1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda

>So it's more than 10. I can't make up my mind.

You wouldn't get an interview until you shave it down to 10. =-)

David Lyons

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NoOption5L wrote:
>
> >1974 Ford Falcon XB
>
> What is this car?

The Mad Max Mobile.

> >1998 Ford Falcon GT
>
> Are these two Australian cars?

As they say in Australia "Si!".


> >1988 Ford Mustang 5.0 (to modify, like the T-Type)
> >1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
> >1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351
> >1995 Ford Mustang Cobra R
> >199X Ford Mustang Cobra DOHC 4.6 (another car to modify)
> >199X Holden Commodore SS
> >1998 Nissan Skyline GT-R
> >1969 Plymouth Hemi Road Runner
> >1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda
>
> >So it's more than 10. I can't make up my mind.
>
> You wouldn't get an interview until you shave it down to 10. =-)

Sorry, I can't do. I just can't do it!

Dave

Tygress(Emily)

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On 28 Aug 1998 06:10:09 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:

>In article <35e73ede....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:
>
>> <huge snip>
>
>>>Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in
>>the hat. C'mon....
>
>>I leave for a while, and now he thinks he's Colombo?? <dated
>>reference for all the geezers out there ;]
>
>Colombo? You mean Christopher Colombo? He was the one that found Spain right?
> Or was heee the captain of the Titanic? <long pause> Or...was
>he?...Gilligan....oh, what was the Skippers name, the Skipper was a captain
>right? Now you got me confused. What was the question again? <AOLness
>showing


Groan....


>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?
>
>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for days.

I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.

>>Can I toss one in?
>
>Only if your name is on it.

Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.
We'll see.

Patrick Austin

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NoOption5L (noopt...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <35E541CF...@atl.hp.com>, David Lyons <lyo...@atl.hp.com>
: writes:

: >> Flashers on, he passes me and swings across 4 lanes, flips me off and


: >> proceeds to almost kill several people.

: >What is it with young'ns these days flipping off their elders after
: >receiving their well-deserved spanking?

: >Although I haven't been in any street run-ins with these adolescents,
: >if it happened to me and I didn't have anywhere else to go, after the
: >ubiquitous flip-off, I'd like to follow the punk until he pulled over
: >somewhere. Then I'd get out, walk up to his car, get right in his
: >face and camly ask, "why did you flip me off?"

: Before you try this, consider the chance that one of these "punks" might greet
: you with the long end of a 38. It's sad that America seems to be reverting
: back to an old wild west mentality. If you don't like somebody, they piss you
: off, or they threaten to get even, just shoot 'em.

:

The murder rate today is much higher than it was back in the wild
west....for god's sake, as many people are murdered in this country each
year than died over in Vietnam. This is really f***ed up.

NoOption5L

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In article <35e8b1b8....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
(Tygress(Emily)) writes:

>>>>Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in
>>>>the hat. C'mon....

>>>I leave for a while, and now he thinks he's Colombo?? <dated
>>>reference for all the geezers out there ;]

>>Colombo? You mean Christopher Colombo? He was the one that found Spain
>>right? Or was heee the captain of the Titanic? <long pause> Or...was
>>he?...Gilligan....oh, what was the Skippers name, the Skipper was a captain
>>right? Now you got me confused. What was the question again? <AOLness
>>showing

> Groan....

I keep doing these AOL stereotypes; and Dwight has to try to undo my work.
"Why does everyone think AOL has a disproportionate amount of knuckleheads?"
Gosh Dwight I'm not sure?

>>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?

>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>days.

> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.

You got it WRONG, all wrong. It was myself, Dwight, ANDDD Subic. Some others
too, but for some reason I just can't remember who they were right now. And
she's disbelieving?...&*#@^ grumble, grumble...

>>>Can I toss one in?

>>Only if your name is on it.

> Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.

>We'll see.

"We'll see" always means a eventual yes. You remember, growing up, mom & dad,
and your other siblings.... "Mommmm, daddddd can we go to the Dairy Queen?"
"We'll see" kids. <brothers and/or sisters in the backseat mumbling> YES,
we're there!!! We're going, we're going, we're going.....

So when do we start?

Patrick Austin

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ASmall9494 (asmal...@aol.com) wrote:
: >From: David Lyons

: >caroli...@hotmail.com wrote:
: >>
: >> I have no love for rice rockets except for the high end ones like the


: >> z. But, those of you who make comments like some guy in a rice
: >> rocket tried to race me today. Any fool can go fast straight, but the
: >> reality is our mustangs can't match the rice rockets handling so I
: >> would venture to guest you wouldn't be winning if it was a road course

: >But a Mustang with a modified suspension *can*. So if riceboys can
: >add performance to their engines, Mustang guys can add performance to
: >their suspensions.
: >

: >Besides, most of these confrontations are on the street. Taking 1g
: >corners on the street to beat riceboys is unnecessary. The stock
: >Mustang suspension is adequate enough for beating riceboys in
: >practically all street confrontation situations.
: >

: Uh, actually no. You guys are giving fats way too much leeway here. The
: average rice rocket is an ill handling front wheel drive POS. That's really
: all there is to it. Now granted there are some good maybe even great handling
: ones like the Supra and RX7s or even the NSX, but these really aren't even in
: the same league as a mustang anyway. Now if I were to plonk down the same
: dough as say a Stang GT, the best I could get would be a Miata or a Prelude.
: Both would lose in a straight line badly, and the Prelude really is no better
: in turns especially on a road course. A road course usually has bigger turns
: and plenty of straights too.

: Your real rice boy is usually out there putting around in a 4 door Civic, CRX,


: or base model Integra. Now if you expect me to believe any of these will whip
: a stang around a road course, you are just a tad bit uneducated to put it
: mildly.

Not all FWD cars are ill-handling POS's....I've seen some pretty friggin'
amazing FWD cars. A month ago, I watched some english guy at Waterford
Hills Raceway in a Ford Cosworth Escort CHEW up all of the mustangs,
camaraos, and corvettes. We're talking major league boost on that little
engine. As he went by on the front strait, you could hear his front tires
breaking loose as the boost increased. And there are some damn well
prepared cars there in GT1. Of course, it was a bit damp, which gave him
a bit of an advantage, but still...I'm not sure that there are any
mustangs out there with a similar level of modification that could hang
with that car on a tight track. It was awesome.

Oh, and yesterday, I got to sit in my mechanic's garage and rev the engine
on a 1997 Porsche GT2 enduro-racer from daytona....heheh....that's the
sort of thing that keeps you loyal to one mechanic. :)

ASmall9494

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>From: paa...@bu.edu (Patrick Austin)

>Not all FWD cars are ill-handling POS's....I've seen some pretty friggin'
>amazing FWD cars.

Uh huh.

> A month ago, I watched some english guy at Waterford
>Hills Raceway in a Ford Cosworth Escort CHEW up all of the mustangs,
>camaraos, and corvettes. We're talking major league boost on that little
>engine. As he went by on the front strait, you could hear his front tires
>breaking loose as the boost increased. And there are some damn well
>prepared cars there in GT1. Of course, it was a bit damp, which gave him
>a bit of an advantage, but still...I'm not sure that there are any
>mustangs out there with a similar level of modification that could hang
>with that car on a tight track. It was awesome.
>

Now we are talking one off race car prototypes. Interesting.

>Oh, and yesterday, I got to sit in my mechanic's garage and rev the engine
>on a 1997 Porsche GT2 enduro-racer from daytona....heheh....that's the
>sort of thing that keeps you loyal to one mechanic. :)

I'm loyal to my mechanic too, me.

I never said that all FWD cars are ill handling PsOS. Read and then reply.
Hell, you quoted it and then took it out of context. I'll quote it again for
you.

>: Uh, actually no. You guys are giving fats way too much leeway here. The
>: average rice rocket is an ill handling front wheel drive POS.

average rice rocket = ill handling FWD POS

I don't see how this relates to one off prototype race cars, but thanks for the
nice story.

Tygress(Emily)

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On 28 Aug 1998 19:46:28 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:

>In article <35e8b1b8....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:


<snip>

>>>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?
>
>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>>days.
>
>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
>
>You got it WRONG, all wrong. It was myself, Dwight, ANDDD Subic. Some others
>too, but for some reason I just can't remember who they were right now. And
>she's disbelieving?...&*#@^ grumble, grumble...


Oh!! Well, if the two of you ANDDD Subic are in on it, it *must*
be a good idea!! Let's see, one of you likes no ac or power anything
in New Mexico <how much of it isnt' supposed to be dessert?>, another
has a thing for, yech, frogs, and the other is supposed to "jingle"
when he walks. Your the new Stooges, aren't you?


>>>>Can I toss one in?
>
>>>Only if your name is on it.
>
>> Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.
>
>>We'll see.
>
>"We'll see" always means a eventual yes. You remember, growing up, mom & dad,
>and your other siblings.... "Mommmm, daddddd can we go to the Dairy Queen?"
>"We'll see" kids. <brothers and/or sisters in the backseat mumbling> YES,
>we're there!!! We're going, we're going, we're going.....


Not in my family. It was generally given a "maybe next time" as
we passed it by.


>So when do we start?

"Maybe next time." ; p


What's in this for me, Patty ole boy?

NoOption5L

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In article <6s6vu5$86s$5...@news1.bu.edu>, paa...@bu.edu (Patrick Austin) writes:

>>Although I haven't been in any street run-ins with these adolescents,
>: >if it happened to me and I didn't have anywhere else to go, after the
>: >ubiquitous flip-off, I'd like to follow the punk until he pulled over
>: >somewhere. Then I'd get out, walk up to his car, get right in his
>: >face and camly ask, "why did you flip me off?"
>
>: Before you try this, consider the chance that one of these "punks" might
>greet
>: you with the long end of a 38. It's sad that America seems to be reverting
>: back to an old wild west mentality. If you don't like somebody, they piss
>you
>: off, or they threaten to get even, just shoot 'em.
>:

>The murder rate today is much higher than it was back in the wild
>west....for god's sake, as many people are murdered in this country each
>year than died over in Vietnam. This is really f***ed up.

I don't doubt this. As the population increases people are forced closer and
closer to each other, leading to more chance for confrontations. But what I
was refering to with the wild west thing is the mentality.

NoOption5L

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In article <35e71443...@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
(Tygress(Emily)) writes:

><snip>

>>>>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?

>>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>>>days.

>>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.

>>You got it WRONG, all wrong. It was myself, Dwight, ANDDD Subic. Some
>>others too, but for some reason I just can't remember who they were right
now. >>And she's disbelieving?...&*#@^ grumble, grumble...

> Oh!! Well, if the two of you ANDDD Subic are in on it, it *must*
>be a good idea!!

Gosh, talking you into this was easier than I thought! <whispering> Boy, is
she ever gullible!

>Let's see, one of you likes no ac or power anything in New Mexico

That'd be me. I'm the new Moe. "The brains of the operation."

<how much of it isnt' supposed to be dessert?>

Albuquerque is much more tolorable without A/C than when we lived in VA.
The summertime temps rarely go over 100 (humidity is normally around 15-25%)
and the winters are very mild. It's just the d*mn sun! Go out with a dark
shirt on, and you'd swear someone has a magnifying glass focused on your back.


, another has a thing for, yech, frogs,

Meet the new Larry. Maybe it's the frog's legs that he loves? But then again
Larry isn't the smartest guy in the world....so who knows?

>and the other is supposed to "jingle" when he walks.

He's Curly, for sure! We just got to try to get him to lose the piercings. He
has to be able to sustain all those punches and kicks.

>Your the new Stooges, aren't you?

Helloooo, helloooo, helloooooo,...hello!

>>>>>Can I toss one in?

>>>>Only if your name is on it.

>>> Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.

>>>We'll see.

>>"We'll see" always means a eventual yes. You remember, growing up, mom &
>dad,
>>and your other siblings.... "Mommmm, daddddd can we go to the Dairy Queen?"
>>"We'll see" kids. <brothers and/or sisters in the backseat mumbling> YES,
>>we're there!!! We're going, we're going, we're going.....

>Not in my family. It was generally given a "maybe next time" as
>we passed it by.

Awwww, we won't neglect you like that in here?

>>So when do we start?

> "Maybe next time." ; p

So then it's a go?

> What's in this for me, Patty ole boy?

You and CJ, always with that "Patty boy" stuff. Actually, I go by the name of
Chip, or Chipster, Chipper, potato chip... But that's another story.......
Hey, I'm the interviewer!

Payment?...oh the payment is your wedding gifts that I'm sending you. See the
other thread.

Steve Lilly

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<199808282144...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...


Shouldn't that be "Moe, Larry and Kinky"? :)

Steve Lilly
remembering when Prince Albert jokes had an entirely different meaning


TFrog93

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In article <35e8b1b8....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
(Tygress(Emily)) writes:

>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>days.
>
> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.

Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.

:()


SEEverist

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David Lyons wrote:

>NoOption5L wrote:
>>
>> >1974 Ford Falcon XB
>>
>> What is this car?
>
>The Mad Max Mobile.

I'll take mine in black, please.


Steve
'71 Buick GS 455
Had:
'86 5.0 coupe (ex-stater)
'88 5.0 coupe ( " " )
<a href="http://members.aol.com/SEEverist/GS.html">Steve's GS Page</a>
Also found at: http://www.flash.net/~stanbrad/cornish2.htm
See if you can find me there too

SEEverist

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Patrick wrote:

>>The murder rate today is much higher than it was back in the wild
>>west....for god's sake, as many people are murdered in this country each
>>year than died over in Vietnam. This is really f***ed up.
>
>I don't doubt this. As the population increases people are forced closer and
>closer to each other, leading to more chance for confrontations.

But, since the murder rate is murders per population, the number of murders
would have to increase as the population increases in order to keep the rate
the same.

AFAIK, the rate hasn't changed dramatically up or down, even though the total
number has went up.

White Tornado Jr.

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>OK, for the ones that don't know, you own a '91(?) Mistu Eclipse, '95 (?) Mazda
>RX-7, Ford Escort, and some sort of vehicle with a Windsor motor.

I can't talk when everyone looks at me.

I get shy.

93 AWD Talon, 93 RX-7 R1, one 351 Winsor powered Mastercraft 190 ski
boat. A 550 Kawa stand up jet ski that I just donated to my brother.
I couldn't take the repairs anymore. Don't think that Japanese
reliability extends to PWCs. My god I've never seen anything that
require so much time in repairs as that JetSki.

I love combustion toys.


>First the Eclipse. How did you decide on buying one? Any outside influences?
>When did you buy it? Tell us briefly the progression of its modifications and
>ETs.

I needed a car that would handle Rocky Mountain winters, and altitude.
So it needed to be four wheel drive and turbocharged and sporty. In
93 (and even today) for those conditions I think the Eclipse AWD is
the best car for the job. The Talon has been pretty much stock most
of it's life. Up until like a year and a half ago. I was under the
impresson like so many others that to get a faster car you have to buy
a more expensive car. Thankfully the internet mailing lists steered
me right. :-)


>On to the RX-7. What's the plan for this one? In a year or so, where do you
>want the car to be with mods?

I'd like to speed it up just a little, high 12s on street tires would
be fine and pretty much leave it alone and keep it forever. It's to
me *the* classic example of a sports car. Light, small, terrible
ride, flawless handling, timeless good looks and two seats. It's the
only Japanese car that I can think of with classic timeless lines.
Almost everything else they make looks good for about 3 years and then
looks terrible. Same for GM for the most part. The RX-7 looks as
good today as it did in 93, I think it will look just as good in 10
years. When the local DSMer geeks (and one Mustang guy) came over to
watch the PPV Import vs. Domestic thingy (http://fla.dsm.org ->
gallery -> #4) All of the DSMers were like low 12 sec DSM? Thats
nice, how about a ride in the RX-7?


>Now your favorite, the Escort. You hate this car right?

Actually it's WTettes and was replaced by the 97 Eclipse convert. She
has been too lazy to make the effort and sell it and it's just sat
around forever. Since I am giving the DSM a ported head and higher
compresson pistons I have taken to slumming and driving the Escort
around during the week. Just so I don't rack up a bunch of miles on
my keeper RX-7.

> Or is it because you know you will never mod it?

I am going to G-Tech it. Thats it. I wouldn't mind if it caught fire
in traffic.

>And now the mystery vehicle is revealed.... A PUSHROD Windsor?...and a
>carburetor too? Its gotta be an older Ford pickup, right? Just a parts
>chaser? Did I nail it?

No way. Traditional inboard boat. You know with the shaft coming out
of the hull and the propellor fixed to the hull and a real rudder.
Like boats are supposed to be? (Wussie stern drivers) What better
engine for a boat than a large displacement iron block pushrod v-8.
They don't need all that heavy breathing 4 valve stuff since then
redline at 4800rpm and they need a bunch of low end torque to overcome
the resistance of water coming on plane. Plus with above water
exhausts and a healthy cam it sounds totally cool.

>When and how did your fascination with cars start? Do you hold ANY
>appreciation for the "classic" Detroit stuff? <whispering> You can answer
>honestly, CJ's gone for a while,

You know the last three cars I got the 5.0L has always been in the
running. The first one I didn't have the cash, the second time I
needed a good snow car and got the DSM (which BTW has only been in the
snow once), when I just got the RX-7 was thinking about getting FOX
body 5.0L as a supercharged project car, but saw a red RX-7 on a
Toyota lot and was reminded of how badly I wanted an RX-7 a while
back.

>(I know it's a big IF) you were to pick out a old musclecar what would it be?
>There's got to be ONE you kinda like....

If? I came so close to getting a 1965 Mustang (red) with a 289 as a
project car, but missed out by just a couple of days. No rust
southern car $1200. I'd really like a Cobra replica with either a big
block or a puffered 351. But who wouldn't?


>Now back to your type of questions. You have a garage with ten slots to fill,
>what's on the short list? Here I'll help a little. An AWD Porshe 944 Turbo,
>and I think the new C5 is growing on you (I know its growing on me!

I don't know that the Vette would make the short list for the "if I
could have anything I wanted list." In reality where we have to
actually pay for, insure and repair it on within the budgetary
constraints of real life the Vette is pretty attractive. Particularly
when you consider that they will start falling off of leases next
year. If you wanted a toy car with lots of potental, one of those
older 400hp Vipers might be a good one to look at too.

A reality based short list (e.g. No Ferrari F50 or McLaren)

RX-7 R1 w 3 rotor engine conversion
Grey market Nissan Skyline AWD
1969 Z28 black of course
Cobra replica with a huge loud engine
Ducati 916 (Red)


>I already know; but tell the rest of the group where your screen name came
>from?

Ha, BBS handle from back in the day. White Escort GT. Yuck.


>When did you first post...sorry...troll our newsgroup?

That is funny. Like May 97? I posted it right after I got done
street racing a guy in a 5.0L. What surprised me about the street
race was the first run was from like 15mph to 60mph and I didn't even
make an inch on him. He was right there. I was thinking "wow I
thought I was supposed to be able to beat a Mustang" We both ended up
taking the same highway entrance and continued playing on the highway
(really really stupid in retrospect) We ran from like 60 to 130mph a
few times. He was right there until like 105 than started fading
back, which I learned was due to his 3:55 gears. He pulled up next to
me and asked if I wanted to race from a stop. We did and AWD got me
three cars on him out of the hole and that gap maintained until we
stopped at 70mph.

I stopped and talked with him and found his mod were cat-back, 3:55
gears and a K&N filter. Mine were a few lbs of boost and a K&N
filter.

I posted basically that story, of course with arrogant "Mustangs suck"
overtones without any of the we were dead even on a roll part. It was
total flamebait.


>word?) one hell of a troll! Why did you go away for a while? It was about a 6
>month absence, right?

I don't think it was that long. Maybe only a couple of months. I
think I got a little out of hand with trolling. Wasting lots of
personal time and making a lot of people hate me. Plus I ended up
actually meeting some people from the internet and really lost a taste
for being an asshole after finding actual humans behind the screen
names. I had some help with the trolling though, Edweena? Are you
out there?

I don't feel bad about trolling the cat people though. Those cat
people are weridos. Freaks!

Although after running at the Gainsville track with the VW club, I
couldn't help but post a few taunts to their group. I am now public
enemy #1 on the VW group.

> What keeps you coming back here?

The wacky cast of characters, the occasional arguments and varied
automotive dicussions.

> Could the F-body or some other
> group ever replace us, and become your foster newsgroup home?

Camaros? No way. They suck.

>Welp that's it.....who's next? Em? Em, one person did toss your name in the
>hat. C'mon....

I vote ViagraJet. Although I doubt I have the bandwidth to download
the entire biography of that old coot.

hea

White Tornado Jr.

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>'85 Cutlass 383, 700R-4, 3.70 posi, NOS cheater
>12.60's on the engine
>11.34 on NOS
>'69 Camaro 421sb, 1200 ATI @ 13 psi, intercooled,
>Big Shot plate, autocross suspension

Do you have anypics of your ride on the web?

Tygress(Emily)

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On 28 Aug 1998 21:44:33 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:

>In article <35e71443...@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:
>
>><snip>
>
>>>>>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?
>

>>>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>>>>days.
>
>>>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>>>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
>

>>>You got it WRONG, all wrong. It was myself, Dwight, ANDDD Subic. Some
>>>others too, but for some reason I just can't remember who they were right
>now. >>And she's disbelieving?...&*#@^ grumble, grumble...
>
>> Oh!! Well, if the two of you ANDDD Subic are in on it, it *must*
>>be a good idea!!
>
>Gosh, talking you into this was easier than I thought! <whispering> Boy, is
>she ever gullible!

lol!!

>>Let's see, one of you likes no ac or power anything in New Mexico
>
>That'd be me. I'm the new Moe. "The brains of the operation."

Oh god I am so screwed!!

>><how much of it isnt' supposed to be dessert?>
>
>Albuquerque is much more tolorable without A/C than when we lived in VA.
>The summertime temps rarely go over 100 (humidity is normally around 15-25%)
>and the winters are very mild. It's just the d*mn sun! Go out with a dark
>shirt on, and you'd swear someone has a magnifying glass focused on your back.

**Rarely** go over 100 he says. Well, remind me to pack my parka
when I go. Silly me, I like ac when its, oh, say, in the 90's. Ah,
well, if you only run it at night its tolerable.



>, another has a thing for, yech, frogs,
>
>Meet the new Larry. Maybe it's the frog's legs that he loves? But then again
>Larry isn't the smartest guy in the world....so who knows?

As long as he's not licking them.

>>and the other is supposed to "jingle" when he walks.
>
>He's Curly, for sure! We just got to try to get him to lose the piercings. He
>has to be able to sustain all those punches and kicks.

As I said, Curly was always misunderstood. Now I see why.

>>Your the new Stooges, aren't you?
>
>Helloooo, helloooo, helloooooo,...hello!
>

>>>>>>Can I toss one in?
>
>>>>>Only if your name is on it.
>
>>>> Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.
>
>>>>We'll see.
>
>>>"We'll see" always means a eventual yes. You remember, growing up, mom &
>>dad,
>>>and your other siblings.... "Mommmm, daddddd can we go to the Dairy Queen?"
>>>"We'll see" kids. <brothers and/or sisters in the backseat mumbling> YES,
>>>we're there!!! We're going, we're going, we're going.....
>
>>Not in my family. It was generally given a "maybe next time" as
>>we passed it by.
>
>Awwww, we won't neglect you like that in here?

Feel the lov...., well, actually, that feels like indifference to
me.

>>>So when do we start?
>
>> "Maybe next time." ; p
>
>So then it's a go?

"We'll see."

>> What's in this for me, Patty ole boy?
>
>You and CJ, always with that "Patty boy" stuff. Actually, I go by the name of
>Chip, or Chipster, Chipper, potato chip... But that's another story.......
>Hey, I'm the interviewer!

Gullible, ain't cha? ;)

>Payment?...oh the payment is your wedding gifts that I'm sending you. See the
>other thread.


Um, see the other thread yourself, chipinator. That's already
covered. Nope, you have to try again. I'm thinking cash...

Tygress(Emily)

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On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:42:10 GMT, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) wrote:

>>'85 Cutlass 383, 700R-4, 3.70 posi, NOS cheater
>>12.60's on the engine
>>11.34 on NOS
>>'69 Camaro 421sb, 1200 ATI @ 13 psi, intercooled,
>>Big Shot plate, autocross suspension
>

>Do you have anypics of your ride on the web?

No, I don't have a web site or home page, and I don't even have
any pictures scanned just to have.

Tygress(Emily)

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On 29 Aug 1998 13:50:24 GMT, tfr...@aol.com (TFrog93) wrote:

>In article <35e71443...@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:
>
>> Oh!! Well, if the two of you ANDDD Subic are in on it, it *must*

>>be a good idea!! Let's see, one of you likes no ac or power anything
>>in New Mexico <how much of it isnt' supposed to be dessert?>, another
>>has a thing for, yech, frogs, and the other is supposed to "jingle"
>>when he walks. Your the new Stooges, aren't you?
>
>Point of clarification: I don't "have a thing for ... frogs". Fact is, when
>I'm wearing sunglasses, I happen to LOOK like a frog.

Oh, well, in that case...

>Just wanted to make sure there was no understanding. I have a "thing" for
>redheads; I have an "appreciation" of frogs.


So if dyed my hair a reddish purple, would you still love me?

>dwight
>(Resume.)

Subic Sailor

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Tygress(Emily) wrote in message <35e71443...@news.mindspring.com>...
:On 28 Aug 1998 19:46:28 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:
:
:>In article <35e8b1b8....@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com

:>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:
:
:
:<snip>
:
:>>>>And just who tossed my name in this hat?
:>
:>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
:>>days.
:>
:>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
:>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
:>
:>You got it WRONG, all wrong. It was myself, Dwight, ANDDD Subic. Some
others
:>too, but for some reason I just can't remember who they were right now.
And
:>she's disbelieving?...&*#@^ grumble, grumble...
:
:
: Oh!! Well, if the two of you ANDDD Subic are in on it, it *must*
:be a good idea!!

Is there any doubt? :)


Let's see, one of you likes no ac or power anything
:in New Mexico <how much of it isnt' supposed to be dessert?>, another
:has a thing for, yech, frogs, and the other is supposed to "jingle"
:when he walks.

But not ONLY when I walk. ;)


Your the new Stooges, aren't you?

:
:Nyuckk nyuckk nyuckk!!
:>>>>Can I toss one in?


:>
:>>>Only if your name is on it.
:>
:>> Well that's no fun, its supposed to have been 'poured' in already.
:>
:>>We'll see.
:>
:>"We'll see" always means a eventual yes. You remember, growing up, mom &
dad,
:>and your other siblings.... "Mommmm, daddddd can we go to the Dairy
Queen?"
:>"We'll see" kids. <brothers and/or sisters in the backseat mumbling>
YES,
:>we're there!!! We're going, we're going, we're going.....
:
:
: Not in my family. It was generally given a "maybe next time" as
:we passed it by.

:
:
:>So when do we start?
:
: "Maybe next time." ; p
:
:
: What's in this for me, Patty ole boy?
:
:
:
:'85 Cutlass 383, 700R-4, 3.70 posi, NOS cheater

Subic Sailor

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Patrick Austin wrote in message <6s6vu5$86s$5...@news1.bu.edu>...
:NoOption5L (noopt...@aol.com) wrote:

:
:The murder rate today is much higher than it was back in the wild

:west..

It was about 85 murders to 100,000 people as opposed to somewhere around 15
murders to 100,000 now. Quite a difference to me.

The murder rate is way LOWER now than it was then. Automatic weapons and
paranoia make it seem much higher. In the Old West you got taken out one at
a time, or something close, now large groups can be mowed down with an Uzi
or some other high powered weapon.

..for god's

Whose God?

sake, as many people are murdered in this country each
:year than died over in Vietnam.

Died or killed in the war effort? Vietnamese or Americans? Civilian or
military? ;)

FWIW. Drunk drivers take more lives in the US than were lost in the 'police
action' in Vietnam. :(


This is really f***ed up.

Agreed.


NoOption5L

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In article <199808282333...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, tfr...@aol.com
(TFrog93) writes:

>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>>days.

>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.

>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.

D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....

HEY, where in the h*ll is WT?

White Tornado Jr.

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>D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
>
>HEY, where in the h*ll is WT?

What?

NoOption5L

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In article <35e72e31....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) writes:

>>OK, for the ones that don't know, you own a '91(?) Mistu Eclipse, '95 (?)
>>Mazda RX-7, Ford Escort, and some sort of vehicle with a Windsor motor.

>I can't talk when everyone looks at me. I get shy.

Shy? That's me.

>93 AWD Talon, 93 RX-7 R1, one 351 Winsor powered Mastercraft 190 ski
>boat. A 550 Kawa stand up jet ski that I just donated to my brother.

OK, STOP! One more interview question! How old are you? I had you pegged for
about....ah, 26-27ish. ???

And now about the "donated" line, do you often donate your property? Because
yah know, I'm a pretty nice guy. So if you ever decide to donate say, an
Eclipse or a RX-7.......

<snip>

>>First the Eclipse. How did you decide on buying one? Any outside
>>influences? When did you buy it? Tell us briefly the progression of its
>>modifications and ETs.

>I needed a car that would handle Rocky Mountain winters, and altitude.

Rocky Mountains? D*amn, we were practically neighbors! Whereabouts in CO?

<snip>

>>On to the RX-7. What's the plan for this one? In a year or so, where do
>>you want the car to be with mods?

>I'd like to speed it up just a little, high 12s on street tires would be fine
and pretty >much leave it alone and keep it forever. It's to me *the* classic

example of a >sports car. Light, small, *terrible ride*

*Kinda brutal ride huh?

>, flawless handling, timeless good looks and two seats.

>It's the only Japanese car that I can think of with classic timeless lines.

Why is that? Is it just "our" tastes that make most of their cars look bland.

But, what about the last gen 300ZXs? They have to be a close second, right?
The Lexus GSs also look very sharp! And how could we forget about your
Eclipses?

>The RX-7 looks as good today as it did in 93,

I love them bright yellow ones!

<snip>

>Almost everything else they make looks good for about 3 years and then

>looks terrible. *Same for GM for the most part.*

*Keep writing stuff like this in here; and you'll have the whole newsgroup
liking you.

>>Now your favorite, the Escort. You hate this car right?

>Actually it's WTettes and was replaced by the 97 Eclipse convert. She has
been >too lazy to make the effort and sell it and it's just sat around forever.

>Since I am giving the DSM a ported head and higher compresson pistons

Damn WT!....shooting for low 12's?...11s? Be sure to give me track results
after these mods!

>I have taken to slumming and driving the Escort around during the week. Just
so >I don't rack up a bunch of miles on my keeper RX-7.

Understandable. I'm hoping to get maybe a little Ranger PU this year. Boy
Scout stuff, hardware store, commuter, ect.

>>Or is it because you know you will never mod it?

>I am going to G-Tech it. Thats it. I wouldn't mind if it caught fire in
traffic.

lol How about a little 150HP NOS explosion, and then a fire?

>>And now the mystery vehicle is revealed.... A PUSHROD Windsor?...and a
>>carburetor too? Its gotta be an older Ford pickup, right? Just a parts
chaser? >>Did I nail it?

>No way. Traditional inboard boat. You know with the shaft coming out of the
hull >and the propellor fixed to the hull and a real rudder. Like boats are
supposed to >be?

Pickup....Boat. "Nail it." Nope, wasn't even close!

>(Wussie stern drivers) What better engine for a boat than a large displacement
>iron block pushrod v-8.

A big outboard?

>They don't need all that heavy breathing 4 valve stuff since then redline at
>4800rpm and they need a bunch of low end torque to overcome the resistance of
>water coming on plane. Plus with above water exhausts and a healthy cam it
>sounds totally cool.

They do sound good. My hometown in MI holds an annual "Boat Night" with many
TWIN engined BB motored boats. The sound of those huge cams and the loud
exhaust X2 is awesome.

>>When and how did your fascination with cars start? Do you hold ANY
>>appreciation for the "classic" Detroit stuff? <whispering> You can answer
>>honestly, CJ's gone for a while,

>You know the last three cars I got the 5.0L has always been in the running.
The >first one I didn't have the cash, the second time I needed a good snow car
and >got the DSM (which BTW has only been in the snow once), when I just got
the >RX-7

>was thinking about getting FOX body 5.0L as a supercharged project car,

Yeah, I remember. I was kinda disappointed when you didn't get one.
But a S/C project car? Not with a turbo kit? Want to see a neat 5 liter turbo
car? Check out Bob Cosby's web page - www.erols.com/cosby.bob1.html He's one
of my speed density heros.

<snip>

>>(I know it's a big IF) you were to pick out a old musclecar what would it be?
>>There's got to be ONE you kinda like....

>If? I came so close to getting a 1965 Mustang (red) with a 289 as a project
car, >but missed out by just a couple of days. No rust southern car $1200.

How long ago? Was it a fastback? I love those early FBs. My brother had a
'66 Shelby H. He sold it for about 20K. I guess you could say it was in nice
shape.

>I'd really like a Cobra replica with either a big block or a puffered 351.
But who >wouldn't?

There's one that runs around here with just a very healthy N/A 351 motor.
Pretty fast. And VERY, VERY clean...almost showcar quality! Nice ride!

Let's see a 351 powered boat, '65 Mustang, Cobra replica, a S/C'd 5 liter
Mustang, and all those Escorts...hmmm...so would it be safe to say that your a
closet Ford guy?

>>Now back to your type of questions. You have a garage with ten slots to
fill,
>>what's on the short list? Here I'll help a little. An AWD Porshe 944 Turbo,
>>and I think the new C5 is growing on you (I know its growing on me!

>I don't know that the Vette would make the short list for the "if I could have
>anything I wanted list." In reality where we have to actually pay for, insure
and >repair it on within the budgetary constraints of real life the Vette is
pretty >attractive. Particularly when you consider that they will start
falling off of leases >next year.

>If you wanted a toy car with lots of potental, one of those older 400hp Vipers
>might be a good one to look at too.

With 488 CIs, one bolt-on part would probably net you about 50hp.

>A reality based short list (e.g. No Ferrari F50 or McLaren)

>RX-7 R1 w 3 rotor engine conversion
>Grey market Nissan Skyline AWD

>1969 Z28 black of course

<double take> A Chevy? Oh...OK, its black. =-)
I can finally appreciate the looks of the '67-'69 Camaros. When I was growing
up I hated them. Everyone had them, and they were ALL Z-28s...well at least
they had the badges on them saying they were Z-28s (70's rice boys). And every
performance oriented magazine had a Camaro on the cover. Much like the 5 liter
Mustangs are now. I'm almost hate to have a 5 liter Mustangs now. I still
love my car, but I can't stand seeing every teenager driving one. Their cars
all have Flowmasters, off-road pipes, headlight covers, and lowering springs.
For instance, today, in the mall parking lot there were three 5 liters, all
parked right together with those same mods, but with an extra 5 liter badge
stuck on the rear hatch - some kind of neighborhood Mustang club I guess. All
I could do was cringe. I'm just waiting for the "kids" to move onto the next
"cool ride." Then I'll love to wheel my "classic" out of the garage.....

>Cobra replica with a huge loud engine
>Ducati 916 (Red)

>>I already know; but tell the rest of the group where your screen name came
>>from?

>Ha, BBS handle from back in the day. White Escort GT. Yuck.

You and them Escorts.... Now your making me wonder if your not a closet Escort
guy?

>>When did you first post...sorry...troll our newsgroup?

>That is funny. Like May 97? I posted it right after I got done street racing
a guy >in a 5.0L. What surprised me about the street race was the first run
was from >like 15mph to 60mph and I didn't even make an inch on him. He was
right there. >I was thinking "wow I thought I was supposed to be able to beat a
Mustang" We >both ended up taking the same highway entrance and continued
playing on the >highway (really really stupid in retrospect)

>We ran from like 60 to 130mph a few times. He was right there until like 105
>than started fading back, which I learned was due to his 3:55 gears.

Bingo! That's why I wish sometimes that I would have went with 3.27s. I25
would be even more fun!

>He pulled up next to me and asked if I wanted to race from a stop. We did and
>AWD got me three cars on him out of the hole and that gap maintained until we
>stopped at 70mph.

>I stopped and talked with him and found his mod were cat-back, 3:55 gears and
>a K&N filter. Mine were a few lbs of boost and a K&N filter.

Hmmm...his car sounds almost like my car.

>I posted basically that story, of course with arrogant "Mustangs suck"
overtones >without any of the we were dead even on a roll part. It was total
flamebait.

More than flame bait...you chummed the water! You posted on your VERY first
time in the group? Never looked around in here before this post?

>>word?) one hell of a troll! Why did you go away for a while? It was about a
>>6 month absence, right?

>I don't think it was that long. Maybe only a couple of months. I think I got
a little >out of hand with trolling. Wasting lots of personal time and making
a lot of >people hate me.

Well, we didn't reallyyy hate you....we just wanted to KILL you....

>Plus I ended upactually meeting some people from the internet and really lost


a >taste for being an asshole after finding actual humans behind the screen
names.

After a while in here, you start to feel like you know these people personally,
like extended friends. Every post you read tells you just a bit more about
that person's personality. How they react to criticism, humor, anger, guilt,
envy, morality, ect. You also slowly finding out about their families,
education level, political views, other hobbies, ect. And all just from
printed words on a computer screen....

>I had some help with the trolling though, Edweena? Are you out there?

Who is this person?

>I don't feel bad about trolling the cat people though. Those cat people are
>weridos. Freaks!

"Freaks and weirdos", huh? Hey, did I ever tell you that I'm a dog person? I
don't own any cats, nope, no cats. NEVER owned a cat! Yep, I'm a dog person.
In fact I got a little dog, and I also got a couple birds, lots of fish, but no
cats. I hate cats! <a little shiver> Yeahhh those cat people are a strange
bunch. That Dwight guy, he owns a cat, and look at him, whewww......

Do you have any cat people stories to share...?

>Although after running at the Gainsville track with the VW club, I couldn't
help but >post a few taunts to their group. I am now public enemy #1 on the VW
group.

Hey, what was up with Nick H. a few weeks ago? There's a guy that holds a
grudge!

>>What keeps you coming back here?

>The wacky cast of characters, the occasional arguments and varied automotive
>dicussions.

So your saying I'M wacky...?......ah,........Did I ever tell you that I used to
own a cat? I love cats! I wish I owned 5 or 6 cats........

>> Could the F-body or some other group ever replace us, and become your
>>foster newsgroup home?

>Camaros? No way. They suck.

NO, your DEFINITELY a closet Ford guy!

>I vote ViagraJet. Although I doubt I have the bandwidth to download the
entire >biography of that old coot.

CJ might be a little eccentic, and stuck in his ways, but he's a nice guy. I
like CJ.
And I already did an interview on him. Want to see a copy of it?

>hea

Your all right WT, your all right....

NoOption5L

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Tornado Jr. ) writes:

Never mind, I saw your reply to this thread after I sent this post.

Subic Sailor

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NoOption5L wrote in message
<199808300338...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
:In article <199808282333...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

tfr...@aol.com
:(TFrog93) writes:
:
:>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
:>>days.
:
:>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
:>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
:
:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
:
:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....

Photo?
Spread?

Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)

:
:HEY, where in the h*ll is WT?
:
:Patrick

NoOption5L

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In article <QK7G1.79$BF1....@news14.ispnews.com>, "Subic Sailor"
<sub...@hotmail.com> writes:

>>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>:>>days.
>:
>:>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>:>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
>:
>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
>:
>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
>
>Photo?
>Spread?
>
>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)

Yikes! I'm not saying anything! Talk to Em.

TFrog93

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In article <35e81ef6...@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
(Tygress(Emily)) writes:

>>Just wanted to make sure there was no understanding. I have a "thing" for
>>redheads; I have an "appreciation" of frogs.
>
>
> So if dyed my hair a reddish purple, would you still love me?

Sorry, kid. Dying your hair won't make you a redhead. "Redhead" is more of a
genetic thing, or state-of-mind. Inextricably interlinked between physical
characteristics and character physiology. "Redhead" is a privilege of birth.

RAISING a redhead is an arduous affair. We taught our Emily to say "no" at the
age of two. Unlike every other parent, though, we didn't "unteach" her at the
age of three. Redheads need to be forceful, yet not necessarily polite. They
need to know what they want and yet not feel the need to lie politically. A
redhead does not acquiesce; a redhead takes the offensive:

"Emily, I want you to clean up your room today."
"You're not going out looking like that, are you, Dad?"

Redheads don't waste time "getting in touch with their inner selves"; redheads
wonder why the rest of us are so fucked.

If ever there was a person who was born to be royalty, it is my Emily.

She truly is a "princess".

:()


TFrog93

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In article <199808300754...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) writes:

>Yeahhh those cat people are a strange
>bunch. That Dwight guy, he owns a cat, and look at him, whewww......

(>Ahem<) I feel that another point of clarification is in order.

One does not "own" cats. One is allowed to cohabitate with them, as long as
one feeds them, entertains them, and provides them a warm place to take naps on
a cold winter's night.

We have a mutual disdain for each other. The one big difference is, I don't
shed.

dwight


TFrog93

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In article <QK7G1.79$BF1....@news14.ispnews.com>, "Subic Sailor"
<sub...@hotmail.com> writes:

>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
>:
>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
>
>Photo?
>Spread?
>
>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)

Sorry, Subic. You missed that meeting. Didn't you read the followup?

This series of interviews, accompanied by several pages of tasteful, slightly
out of focus, revealing photographs will become the R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY ALBUM on
the Web. I wanted to do Emily first, but Patrick went after WT.

Go figure.

dwight :()


Subic Sailor

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TFrog93 wrote in message
<199808301442...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
:In article <QK7G1.79$BF1....@news14.ispnews.com>, "Subic Sailor"

:<sub...@hotmail.com> writes:
:
:>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
:>:
:>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
:>
:>Photo?
:>Spread?
:>
:>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)
:
:Sorry, Subic. You missed that meeting. Didn't you read the followup?
:
:This series of interviews, accompanied by several pages of tasteful,
slightly
:out of focus, revealing photographs will become the R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY ALBUM
on
:the Web.

I think you missed what I was trying to say. :)
I am up to date on the intereviews, even read them both... ;)


I wanted to do Emily first, but Patrick went after WT.


-raising eyebrows-
:


:Go figure.


That's what I said. :)

:dwight :()
:

Tygress(Emily)

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On 30 Aug 1998 14:42:40 GMT, tfr...@aol.com (TFrog93) wrote:

>In article <35e81ef6...@news.mindspring.com>, Em...@Tigress.com
>(Tygress(Emily)) writes:
>
>>>Just wanted to make sure there was no understanding. I have a "thing" for
>>>redheads; I have an "appreciation" of frogs.
>>
>>
>> So if dyed my hair a reddish purple, would you still love me?
>
>Sorry, kid.

I'm wounded, truly wonded that you wouldn't love me anymore... Ah,
I probably couldn't stand the purple after a few days anyway. Now
blue....


> Dying your hair won't make you a redhead. "Redhead" is more of a
>genetic thing, or state-of-mind. Inextricably interlinked between physical
>characteristics and character physiology. "Redhead" is a privilege of birth.
>
>RAISING a redhead is an arduous affair. We taught our Emily to say "no" at the
>age of two. Unlike every other parent, though, we didn't "unteach" her at the
>age of three. Redheads need to be forceful,

check

> yet not necessarily polite.

check

> They need to know what they want

check

>and yet not feel the need to lie politically.


I never even got on the SGA in grade school. I never ran either, but
still never got on it.


>A redhead does not acquiesce;

check, and if you say no, wanna step outside?


>a redhead takes the offensive:


yep, check


>"Emily, I want you to clean up your room today."
>"You're not going out looking like that, are you, Dad?"

in one ear and promptly ignored as meaningless background noise, check



>Redheads don't waste time "getting in touch with their inner selves";

sort of check. If you mean that touchy feely new age crap, then
check. If you mean something else, I probably missed that one.

>redheads
>wonder why the rest of us are so fucked.

check.

>If ever there was a person who was born to be royalty, it is my Emily.
>
>She truly is a "princess".


What else could she be with a king for a dad?

Hey, does this towards my interview?

Tygress(Emily)

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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:06:45 -0700, "Subic Sailor"
<sub...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>:(TFrog93) writes:
>:
>:>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in for
>:>>days.
>:
>:>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
>:>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
>:

>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
>:
>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
>
>Photo?
>Spread?
>
>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)


Groan..... I wasn't going to touch that one.

狂人

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In <35e9f059...@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, on 08/31/98
at 12:39 AM, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White Tornado Jr. ) said:

>Why do you think that Pavlov used dogs? Cats are like women. When they
>are kittens they are all cute, they want you to rub them and play with them
>all the time.

Hummm... :)

>Once you take them home, they grow into cats. They turn mean, they get fat
>and they don't want you to touch them unless it's to rub their ears.

WT, Emily is coming this way... I got a real nice bullet proof jacket, want
it? Cost only 10x the store price, pretty cheap... :)

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In <35ed1a29...@news.mindspring.com>, on 08/31/98
at 03:44 AM, Em...@Tigress.com (Tygress(Emily)) said:

>>WT, Emily is coming this way... I got a real nice bullet proof jacket, want
>>it? Cost only 10x the store price, pretty cheap... :)

> lol! Well, my shooting has gotten better,

What kind of gun do you use? :) Don't tell me it is those Vulcan 20mm
gattling gun with 5mm sabot rounds... :) Then I don't think WT can haul the
armor needed to protect him... :)

>but it would be more fun to
>stalk and then hamstring him with my katana.

Hummm... I prefer the heavy duty "Cast Uranium" swords, put it through a
telescope grade CNC bench (Now this is what all hot rodder would love to use
on their engines and make parts that's more than good enough for just about
any applications, even nukes :) ) to sharpen and make create the edge that I
need... :)

BTW... Uranium is used in the best of the best armor piercing rounds... :)

I guess I need to work on my muscles... :)

>And you would be amazed at
>how cleanly that thing will cut bone with a waterwheel strike.

I have no doubt about those stuff... :) Two of the knifes in the Kitchen of
this house can do that... :) How else can anyone prepare the ribs? :)

狂人

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In <35ea0f35...@news.mindspring.com>, on 08/31/98
at 03:44 AM, Em...@Tigress.com (Tygress(Emily)) said:

>On 31 Aug 1998 01:45:18 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:

> Ask what you want, I'll answer what I want, though I'll try and do most
>of them, auto or non.

First question... Where can we find your pics on the net? :) Please don't
show your car in the same pic, or you'll hear us shouting out "Emily, get
away from the car, we wanna see the car, the whole car..."... :)

Subic Sailor

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NoOption5L wrote in message
<199808310145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
:In article <199808301442...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
tfr...@aol.com
:(TFrog93) writes:
:
:>>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.

:
:>>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
:
:>>Photo?
:>>Spread?
:
:>>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)
:
:>Sorry, Subic. You missed that meeting. Didn't you read the followup?

:
:>This series of interviews, accompanied by several pages of tasteful,
slightly
:>out of focus, revealing photographs will become the R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY
ALBUM
:>on the Web. I wanted to do Emily first, but Patrick went after WT.
:
:"R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY ALBUM on the Web." I like that!
:
:>Go figure.
:
:Actually, it could have been decided with a coin toss. Both in my view are
:intriguing people. WT got the edge because he is the most misunderstood
person
:in here. I wanted to answer the, "why is someone who doesn't own a Mustang
and
:or a Ford powered vehicle in here" question.
:
:Em is next though, because she's a girl with hotrods. Yes, it's a sexist
:statement, but the fact is women are still very much a minority amoung auto
:enthusiasts.

Then add in her charming personality and all our single males
:being glued to their video monitors everytime she writes.

Why? Do the single males in here like enaged ladies.


Should make for an
:interesting conversation.

Staying tuned.


:
:Then who's next after Em? In the running are David Lyons (but first Dave
you
:have to shave your list down to JUST 10), Marc Warden, Gary H, Stephen
Fisher,
:Anthony, Subic, or David Wei (did I leave anyone out?) and maybe some
rookies,
:not sure about that yet though. Hey what about Dwight? Good question.
Dwight
:is definately on the list, BUT I don't know if an interview with him would
:bring out anything that we don't already know (am I wrong Mr. Frog?...got
some
:secret life we don't know about? You know, you and Lisa maybe?). Step
into
:this Mustang newsgroup, for even a small amount of time, and you instantly
know
:the T-Frog. He's just to d*mn friendly!
:
:I'm not going to do these interviews in rapid-fire sequence (keeps the
ratings
:up if I make you wait). Probably a couple weeks between them. School is
:starting for me this week and my daily schedule is tighter than ever.
:
:If anyone else is interested in being interviewed drop me a line. I try to
:keep the questions strictly auto-related, but a few less auto-related ones
may
:slip in. And if anyone wants to be off the list, let me know.
:
:
:So Em, slip into something sexy for your adoring fans, because your
next....

Anything she wears is sexy.... :o


So I have heard. :)


:
:Patrick

Subic Sailor

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Tygress(Emily) wrote in message <35ee78a1....@news.mindspring.com>...
:On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:06:45 -0700, "Subic Sailor"

:<sub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
:
:>
:>NoOption5L wrote in message
:><199808300338...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
:>:In article <199808282333...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
:>tfr...@aol.com
:>:(TFrog93) writes:
:>:
:>:>>>Actually, I was swamped with requests for you! They were pouring in
for
:>:>>days.
:>:
:>:>> I'm flattered. Disbelieving, but flattered. Unless "pouring"
:>:>>means you and Dwight thought it would be a good idea.
:>:
:>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.
:>:
:>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....
:>
:>Photo?
:>Spread?
:>
:>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)
:
:
: Groan..... I wasn't going to touch that one.

Come on now. You KNOW you want to touch it. ;)

-couldn't resist that-

:
:
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Subic Sailor

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NoOption5L wrote in message
<199808310145...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

:If anyone else is interested in being interviewed drop me a line.

I like the idea and think it's different. In a good kind of way.


I try to
:keep the questions strictly auto-related, but a few less auto-related ones
may
:slip in.

This could be interesting....very.

And if anyone wants to be off the list, let me know.
:

:I may have to take a rain check. Depending on the time. I am not sure of
my schedule in the next few weeks, if not longer.

I am getting ready to move and will be staying with non-Internet friends.
This may be the last week I post for a few weeks, unless I can sneak my
'puter out of storage occasionally and log on.

Can anyone in the SF/Oakland Bay Area recommend a good ISP that is 56k?

NoOption5L

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>>Yeahhh those cat people are a strange
>>bunch. That Dwight guy, he owns a cat, and look at him, whewww......

>(>Ahem<) I feel that another point of clarification is in order.

>One does not "own" cats. One is allowed to cohabitate with them, as long as
>one feeds them, entertains them, and provides them a warm place to take naps
>on a cold winter's night.

Thanks for the clarification, but cohabitating with them still makes you a "cat
person", right.

NoOption5L

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>>:>Patrick wanted the background info. I voted for the photo spread.

>>:D*mn, completely forgot about the photo spread....

>>Photo?
>>Spread?

>>Was there a pun in there? Just what are you two alluding to? :)

>Sorry, Subic. You missed that meeting. Didn't you read the followup?

>This series of interviews, accompanied by several pages of tasteful, slightly
>out of focus, revealing photographs will become the R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY ALBUM
>on the Web. I wanted to do Emily first, but Patrick went after WT.

"R.A.M.F.M. FAMILY ALBUM on the Web." I like that!

>Go figure.

Actually, it could have been decided with a coin toss. Both in my view are
intriguing people. WT got the edge because he is the most misunderstood person
in here. I wanted to answer the, "why is someone who doesn't own a Mustang and
or a Ford powered vehicle in here" question.

Em is next though, because she's a girl with hotrods. Yes, it's a sexist
statement, but the fact is women are still very much a minority amoung auto
enthusiasts. Then add in her charming personality and all our single males

being glued to their video monitors everytime she writes. Should make for an
interesting conversation.

Then who's next after Em? In the running are David Lyons (but first Dave you


have to shave your list down to JUST 10), Marc Warden, Gary H, Stephen Fisher,
Anthony, Subic, or David Wei (did I leave anyone out?) and maybe some rookies,
not sure about that yet though. Hey what about Dwight? Good question. Dwight
is definately on the list, BUT I don't know if an interview with him would
bring out anything that we don't already know (am I wrong Mr. Frog?...got some
secret life we don't know about? You know, you and Lisa maybe?). Step into
this Mustang newsgroup, for even a small amount of time, and you instantly know
the T-Frog. He's just to d*mn friendly!

I'm not going to do these interviews in rapid-fire sequence (keeps the ratings
up if I make you wait). Probably a couple weeks between them. School is
starting for me this week and my daily schedule is tighter than ever.

If anyone else is interested in being interviewed drop me a line. I try to


keep the questions strictly auto-related, but a few less auto-related ones may

slip in. And if anyone wants to be off the list, let me know.

So Em, slip into something sexy for your adoring fans, because your next....

Patrick

NoOption5L

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In article <35e9e624...@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) writes:

>>Damn WT!....shooting for low 12's?...11s? Be sure to give me track results
>>after these mods!

I forgot. I was thinking you were at high 12's.

>It already goes low 12s! Actually the reason for the rebuild was my
>sloppy shifting. I shifted from 3rd to 2nd at redline. Second gear
>at just shy of 100mph. It floated a valve, an a rocker arm, which is
>only held on by spring pressure popped off.

>I thought I had a bent valve,

Scary.

>by the time that I figured out it was just a rocker arm I had
>it so far apart that I thought what the hell? How many people have
>done that and their cars have never run again.

I had a similiar thing happen once. Holed the piston and cracked the block.

>I've not had an auto engine apart (that I hoped would run again), so I
>need some luck on putting it togeher correctly.

Find a professional. It will save you heartache later.

>>A big outboard?

>Yuck. A big outboard could never pull on the ski rope like a large
>displacement v-8. Nor could it sould like one. Something about
>550ft-lb of underdriven torque on a huge brass prop that an outboard
>will never match. Conversely, an inboard will never have top end like
>an outboard. Those things are silly fast.

I agree, but I thought for sure the speed factor would have you in an outboard.


>The traditional inboard is to the boating world what the Muscle car is
>to the car world. To some, particularly people who ski there is no
>substitute.

WT, WT! Fords, Cobra replicas, great sounding big V8s, and now musclecar
references. Gosh, at this rate, you'll probably get Christmas cards from the
other NG regulars this year.

>>They do sound good. My hometown in MI holds an annual "Boat Night" with
>many
>>TWIN engined BB motored boats. The sound of those huge cams and the loud
>>exhaust X2 is awesome.

>Some of those boats are pretty bad ass. Consider that in the boating
>world a 302 is a "small" boat motor. You aren't really getting
>serious until you are getting into the 350-351 or larger.

I know, and some of these guys had seriously modded twin 454s and 460s. I'd
hate to feed all those horses!



>>How long ago? Was it a fastback? I love those early FBs. My brother had a
>>'66 Shelby H. He sold it for about 20K. I guess you could say it was in
>nice shape.

>It was the classic 65 with a 3 speed two barrel 289. I missed out on
>it in 1994.

Coupe, convert, or FB?

>>Mustangs are now. I'm almost hate to have a 5 liter Mustangs now. I still
>>love my car, but I can't stand seeing every teenager driving one. Their
>cars
>>all have Flowmasters, off-road pipes, headlight covers, and lowering
>springs.

>Yeah that does suck. But they are cheap, fairly durable and if you
>were a punk would you want a NA FWD 4 cyl wheezer or something with
>some power? You can get a decent one for $5000, some of them are
>already modded. It has all of the right stuff. Power, decent
>handling, posi and RWD. That or a used Civic?

Oh, I don't blame them. I just get tired of the Billy Bad Ass Juniors with
*just* loud exhausts systems thinking they own the streets. And a few weeks
ago I went to a local Mustang scrap yard, 80% of the smashed up Mustangs in the
yard were kids cars - Flowmaster stickers, Mustang decals on the rear windows,
aftermarket wheels, stereo bass units in the hatches, ect. Hate to see them
tearing 'em up.

>I took the long way home from work the other night, we have a 3-4 mile
>long bridge here which has basically no speed limit. There isn't
>anywhere for a cop to hide and you can go as fast as you want without
>much fear.

>I got on there and started that classic battle of responsibility vs
>punk inner conflict.

lol

>Maybe I will just floor it for all of 3rd and quit. No I better not. By that
time I had >already downshifted. Redline in 3rd which is pretty fast, like 105?
Then the dark >side took over, went for forth and didn't redline but went
pretty high. I
>wasn't looking but when I let up I saw just shy of 130. In like
>seconds. I was giddy for the rest of the night. In only a way that a
>car nut could understand. How do people drive slow cars? I don't get
>it.

My favorite is I25 south out of Albuquerque. Wide open highway. Love to run
it into the 4,000 rpm area in 5th. Love it!

>>So your saying I'M wacky...?......ah,........Did I ever tell you that I used
>to
>>own a cat? I love cats! I wish I owned 5 or 6 cats........

>I have two. Do you want them?

Yeah, add two cats and I can start charging admission to the McKenzie Zoo. No
thanks!

>>CJ might be a little eccentic, and stuck in his ways, but he's a nice guy.
>I
>>like CJ.
>>And I already did an interview on him. Want to see a copy of it?

>That would be cool.

It's coming your way.

>What others have you done.

First it was CJ then you. Next is Em, whether she agrees to it or not.

Tygress(Emily)

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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:39:25 GMT, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) wrote:

>>One does not "own" cats. One is allowed to cohabitate with them, as long as
>>one feeds them, entertains them, and provides them a warm place to take naps on
>>a cold winter's night.
>

>Why do you think that Pavlov used dogs?

Because the average man was too stupid?


>Cats are like women.

They can be, go on, please.

> When they are kittens they are all cute, they want you to rub them and play
>with them all the time.


Sounds nice, I'm practically purring.

>Once you take them home, they grow into cats.


All the better to please you, my dear. You do like full grown
women, don't you, Tony?


> They turn mean,

Oh, never!! We just know what we want and are ruthless enough to
go and take it if you don't provide it quick enough. Once we've got
our toy, we go back to being proper ladies and sheathe our katanas,
er, claws.

>they get fat and they don't want you to touch them unless it's to rub their
>ears.

Poor care on their owner's part. A well "excercised" cat stays
lean and flexible. She also never tires of a caress, if its delivered
properly. Really, Tony, you'd think being married and all you would
know this. Unless you haven't been...

Tygress(Emily)

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On 31 Aug 1998 01:45:18 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:


<snip>

>If anyone else is interested in being interviewed drop me a line. I try to
>keep the questions strictly auto-related, but a few less auto-related ones may
>slip in. And if anyone wants to be off the list, let me know.
>
>
>So Em, slip into something sexy for your adoring fans, because your next....

By definition, if I'm in it, it _is_ sexy.

Ask what you want, I'll answer what I want, though I'll try and do
most of them, auto or non.

Tygress(Emily)

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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:24:24 -0700, "Ёg╓H" <nos...@canadawired.com>
wrote:

>In <35e9f059...@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, on 08/31/98

> at 12:39 AM, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White Tornado Jr. ) said:
>
>>Why do you think that Pavlov used dogs? Cats are like women. When they


>>are kittens they are all cute, they want you to rub them and play with them
>>all the time.
>

>Hummm... :)
>
>>Once you take them home, they grow into cats. They turn mean, they get fat


>>and they don't want you to touch them unless it's to rub their ears.
>

>WT, Emily is coming this way... I got a real nice bullet proof jacket, want
>it? Cost only 10x the store price, pretty cheap... :)


lol! Well, my shooting has gotten better, but it would be more
fun to stalk and then hamstring him with my katana. And you would be


amazed at how cleanly that thing will cut bone with a waterwheel
strike.

SEEverist

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Subic wrote:

>I am getting ready to move and will be staying with non-Internet friends.
>This may be the last week I post for a few weeks, unless I can sneak my
>'puter out of storage occasionally and log on.
>
>Can anyone in the SF/Oakland Bay Area recommend a good ISP that is 56k?

Hey, how 'bout America Online, if you haven't heard of them, they're nationwide
and use the .v90 standard. [ducking]


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David Lyons wrote:

>
> NoOption5L wrote:
> >
> > >I don't feel bad about trolling the cat people though. Those cat people are
> > >weridos. Freaks!
> >
> > "Freaks and weirdos", huh? Hey, did I ever tell you that I'm a dog person? I
> > don't own any cats, nope, no cats. NEVER owned a cat! Yep, I'm a dog person.
> > In fact I got a little dog, and I also got a couple birds, lots of fish, but no
> > cats. I hate cats! <a little shiver> Yeahhh those cat people are a strange
> > bunch. That Dwight guy, he owns a cat, and look at him, whewww......
> >
> > Do you have any cat people stories to share...?
>
> Cats are cool (what'd you expect from a guy named "Lyons"?). I own
> two. Well, I don't "own" them; I consider them to be free. I'd like
> to get a couple of Siberian tigers, but I don't think their legal in
> Hall County. But go to the cat newsgroup and you'll see what WT is
> talking about. There's one lady there who's a true mental case. As
> for me, I love all critters, but I don't go around acting like a cat.
> Now the wife wants to fence in our yard (which will be followed by a
> nice, vicious, big-ass, man-eating dog). Good bye Canfields for
> another year.
>
> Dave


My wife shows cats.(hey, she goes to the track, I go to the shows) Some
of them are pretty high class wing dings!

Even she thinks the cat NG's are sick.

Our cats are pretty cool. One Siamese and one Maine coon cat. The Coon
looks like a small bobcat, from 50' you can't tell the difference. And
the Siamese is funny as hell. (does ninja bonsia jumps on the coon)

As my wifes says:
"Cats were once worshiped as gods...They still remember this" :)

Steve Lilly

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JasonH@work wrote in message <35EAFC...@cttel.net>...

>David Lyons wrote:
>>
>> NoOption5L wrote:
>> >
>> > >I don't feel bad about trolling the cat people though. Those cat
people are
>> > >weridos. Freaks!
>> >

No doubt they think that we (car people) are pretty f****d up. Ok, so a few
of us are. You tend to find that wherever you find people that have just
one focus in life.

>> > "Freaks and weirdos", huh? Hey, did I ever tell you that I'm a dog
person? I
>> > don't own any cats, nope, no cats. NEVER owned a cat! Yep, I'm a dog
person.
>> > In fact I got a little dog, and I also got a couple birds, lots of
fish, but no
>> > cats. I hate cats! <a little shiver> Yeahhh those cat people are a
strange
>> > bunch. That Dwight guy, he owns a cat, and look at him, whewww......
>> >

Some of the dog people are equally strange. Just think about those women
with ______ (insert name of least favorite fru-fru dog). I can't tell the
difference between them and the Persian cat people.

>> > Do you have any cat people stories to share...?
>>

>> Cats are cool (what'd you expect from a guy named "Lyons"?). I own
>> two. Well, I don't "own" them; I consider them to be free.

It's true, nobody "owns" a cat.

>> I'd like
>> to get a couple of Siberian tigers, but I don't think their legal in
>> Hall County. But go to the cat newsgroup and you'll see what WT is
>> talking about. There's one lady there who's a true mental case. As
>> for me, I love all critters, but I don't go around acting like a cat.
>> Now the wife wants to fence in our yard (which will be followed by a
>> nice, vicious, big-ass, man-eating dog). Good bye Canfields for
>> another year.
>>


I've been to a few cat shows. Enough to know that I don't want to visit
their ng.

>
>My wife shows cats.(hey, she goes to the track, I go to the shows) Some
>of them are pretty high class wing dings!
>
>Even she thinks the cat NG's are sick.
>
>Our cats are pretty cool. One Siamese and one Maine coon cat. The Coon
>looks like a small bobcat, from 50' you can't tell the difference. And
>the Siamese is funny as hell. (does ninja bonsia jumps on the coon)
>

Except for the fact that Maine Coons do have tails (at least mine does). I
want a Bengal or a Pixie-Bob (I think it's a Himalayan/bobcat cross).
Scratch that, my house already has too many.

>As my wifes says:
>"Cats were once worshiped as gods...They still remember this" :)


Steve


JasonH

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>I've been to a few cat shows. Enough to know that I don't want to visit
>their ng.


I guess I should have prefaced that the shows she goes to are in
Connecticut. They have a little more white linen and silver feel to them.

I have been to some others out of state and we both agree, never again!
I think Dahmer was a cat freak.

I like the Abasinians (spell?) They are the "dennis the menace" cats of the
crowd. Always causin trouble. ;)

狂人

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NoOption5L wrote:

>Then who's next after Em? In the running are David Lyons (but first Dave you
>have to shave your list down to JUST 10)

Give hime a bit more room, after all, he is the TBA #1 of our newsgroup...
:)

>Marc Warden, Gary H, Stephen Fisher,
>Anthony, Subic, or David Wei (did I leave anyone out?) and maybe some rookies,

Thanks for even remembering my name... :) BTW, what am I gonna be grilled
about? :)

>not sure about that yet though. Hey what about Dwight? Good question. Dwight
>is definately on the list, BUT I don't know if an interview with him would
>bring out anything that we don't already know (am I wrong Mr. Frog?...got some
>secret life we don't know about? You know, you and Lisa maybe?). Step into
>this Mustang newsgroup, for even a small amount of time, and you instantly know
>the T-Frog. He's just to d*mn friendly!

Hummm...

Dennis Brown

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In article <199808261330...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
ASmall9494 <asmal...@aol.com> wrote:
>Your real rice boy is usually out there putting around in a 4 door Civic, CRX,
>or base model Integra. Now if you expect me to believe any of these will whip
>a stang around a road course, you are just a tad bit uneducated to put it
>mildly.
>
>Anthony

Actually a CRX Si probably would beat the Mustang GT around a tight road
course, and on an autocross course, they're also usually faster.
On a more open road course, the higher power of the Mustang would help out
but it would still be close. Light weight means a LOT; getting around a
course fast is mostly maintaining momentum, and even if a CRX can't power
out of a corner like a Mustang, it can probably carry more speed into and
through the corner to make up for it.

My sig says what I have now, but I've previously had a CRX Si ('86) and
a Mustang GTS ('95). I'm not a top-notch driver but there is a lot to
respect about the handling of a small, light car.

--
Dennis Brown brownde @ cs.unc.edu
1997 Camaro Z28 (M6,t-tops) 1997 S-10 LS (V6,A4,x-cab,sportside,ZQ8)
See my boring cars page at http://ns2.apmtech.com/dbrown/personal/carstuff
Nothing I say is officially endorsed by UNC. Hooray for alumni accounts!


Subic Sailor

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I can throw around corners.

The beauty of cyberspace.


SEEverist wrote in message
<199808310552...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...

TFrog93

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In article <35eb018d$1$qnivqjrv$mr2...@news.canadawired.com>, "¨g¤H"
<nos...@canadawired.com> writes:

>> Hey what about Dwight? Good question. Dwight is definately on the list,
>>BUT I don't know if an interview with him would bring out anything that we
don't
>>already know (am I wrong Mr. Frog?...got some secret life we don't know
about?
>>You know, you and Lisa maybe?). Step into this Mustang newsgroup, for even
>>a small amount of time, and you instantly know the T-Frog. He's just to d*mn

>>>friendly!
>
>Hummm...

BITE ME


:()


NoOption5L

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In article <199809010046...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, tfr...@aol.com
(TFrog93) writes:

>>> Hey what about Dwight? Good question. Dwight is definately on the list,
>>>BUT I don't know if an interview with him would bring out anything that we
>don't
>>>already know (am I wrong Mr. Frog?...got some secret life we don't know
>about?
>>>You know, you and Lisa maybe?). Step into this Mustang newsgroup, for
>>>even a small amount of time, and you instantly know the T-Frog. He's just
to
>>>d*mn friendly!

>BITE ME

LOL See...just like I said, he's just to d*mn friendly! <scratching his name
off the list> =-) <mumbling> Boy, is he ever going to pay for that one....

NoOption5L

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In article <35eb018d$1$qnivqjrv$mr2...@news.canadawired.com>, "¨g¤H"
<nos...@canadawired.com> writes:

>>Marc Warden, Gary H, Stephen Fisher,
>>Anthony, Subic, or David Wei (did I leave anyone out?) and maybe some
>rookies,

>Thanks for even remembering my name... :) BTW, what am I gonna be grilled
>about? :)

Just wait! I'm still digging up dirt on you. And the current pile is already
about 6 feet high.

NoOption5L

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In article <35EA8DC8...@atl.hp.com>, David Lyons <lyo...@atl.hp.com>
writes:

>Yes. Where is His Majesty, our king, Michael Dyke?

I don't know, but he starts posting again he'll get grilled for sure. My
chance to flame the "king of flame." Oh boy, can't wait!

And one more that I completely forgot about is the seeverist, Steve.

He'll definately pay for deserting us and buying that, that....dirty
word...that GM product called a....BBBBuick. Uck! <spitting>

SEEverist

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Patrick wrote:

>And one more that I completely forgot about is the seeverist, Steve.
>
>He'll definately pay for deserting us and buying that, that....dirty
>word...that GM product called a....BBBBuick. Uck! <spitting>

BITE ME!

White Tornado Jr.

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>Actually, it could have been decided with a coin toss. Both in my view are
>intriguing people. WT got the edge because he is the most misunderstood person
>in here. I wanted to answer the, "why is someone who doesn't own a Mustang and
>or a Ford powered vehicle in here" question.

Hey! I have a Ford powered vehicle, and it's got a bigger engine than
your wussie little 5.0L and 4.6Ls.

hea hea


That and that POS Escort that is disgracing my driveway.

WT!


White Tornado Jr.

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>Cats are cool (what'd you expect from a guy named "Lyons"?). I own
>two. Well, I don't "own" them; I consider them to be free. I'd like

>to get a couple of Siberian tigers, but I don't think their legal in
>Hall County. But go to the cat newsgroup and you'll see what WT is
>talking about. There's one lady there who's a true mental case.

Oh no it's much worse than that. There is a whole newsgroup with
people talking to each other in some evil form of cat derived ebonics.

It's a horror show.

White Tornado Jr.

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> Sounds nice, I'm practically purring.

I thought you and the FROG were having an affair?

> All the better to please you, my dear. You do like full grown
>women, don't you, Tony?

No they scare me. And sometimes they bite.


> Poor care on their owner's part. A well "excercised" cat stays
>lean and flexible. She also never tires of a caress, if its delivered
>properly. Really, Tony, you'd think being married and all you would
>know this. Unless you haven't been...

I'm not married.

But if you are offering you have to sell the car. I can't have a
woman with a faster car than me.

Tygress(Emily)

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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:18:37 -0700, "Ёg╓H" <nos...@canadawired.com>
wrote:

>In <35ea0f35...@news.mindspring.com>, on 08/31/98

> at 03:44 AM, Em...@Tigress.com (Tygress(Emily)) said:
>

>>On 31 Aug 1998 01:45:18 GMT, noopt...@aol.com (NoOption5L) wrote:
>
>> Ask what you want, I'll answer what I want, though I'll try and do most
>>of them, auto or non.
>

>First question... Where can we find your pics on the net? :) Please don't
>show your car in the same pic, or you'll hear us shouting out "Emily, get
>away from the car, we wanna see the car, the whole car..."... :)

Oh well, and I was going to oblige you this time, but since I'd be
in the way of the car...
Actually, there are no pictures of me on the net that I know of,
or of my cars. Sorry.

Tygress(Emily)

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On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:11:50 -0700, "Ёg╓H" <nos...@canadawired.com>
wrote:

>In <35ed1a29...@news.mindspring.com>, on 08/31/98

> at 03:44 AM, Em...@Tigress.com (Tygress(Emily)) said:
>

>>>WT, Emily is coming this way... I got a real nice bullet proof jacket, want
>>>it? Cost only 10x the store price, pretty cheap... :)
>
>> lol! Well, my shooting has gotten better,
>

>What kind of gun do you use? :) Don't tell me it is those Vulcan 20mm
>gattling gun with 5mm sabot rounds... :) Then I don't think WT can haul the
>armor needed to protect him... :)


What is a "sabot" round? No, I just have a little .32 cal pistol,
and I really don't know much about it that isn't technical to the gun
itself. I do know what a gattling gun is, though. One other thing,
why use a 5 mm round in a 20 mm gun?

>>but it would be more fun to


>>stalk and then hamstring him with my katana.
>

>Hummm... I prefer the heavy duty "Cast Uranium" swords, put it through a
>telescope grade CNC bench (Now this is what all hot rodder would love to use
>on their engines and make parts that's more than good enough for just about
>any applications, even nukes :) ) to sharpen and make create the edge that I
>need... :)
>
>BTW... Uranium is used in the best of the best armor piercing rounds... :)


You're a Star Trek fan, aren't you?

Tygress(Emily)

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On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 02:23:48 GMT, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) wrote:

>> Sounds nice, I'm practically purring.
>
>I thought you and the FROG were having an affair?


Nah, he's hopeless for this redheaded broad. Sigh...


>> All the better to please you, my dear. You do like full grown
>>women, don't you, Tony?
>
>No they scare me. And sometimes they bite.


lol! Sometimes we do indeed.


>> Poor care on their owner's part. A well "excercised" cat stays
>>lean and flexible. She also never tires of a caress, if its delivered
>>properly. Really, Tony, you'd think being married and all you would
>>know this. Unless you haven't been...
>
>I'm not married.

I thought the WTette... Ah well, sorry, my mistake.

>But if you are offering you have to sell the car. I can't have a
>woman with a faster car than me.

Wouldn't I have to sell both? ;)

SEEverist

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Subic wrote:

>I can throw around corners.

[big grin on my part]

Subic Sailor

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White Tornado Jr. wrote in message <35eb5a4c....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>...
:> Sounds nice, I'm practically purring.

:
:I thought you and the FROG were having an affair?
:
:> All the better to please you, my dear. You do like full grown

:>women, don't you, Tony?
:
:No they scare me. And sometimes they bite.
:
I don't like it when girls bite. I have teeth mark scars to prove it.
Besides, they could lose some teeth too. ;)


:> Poor care on their owner's part. A well "excercised" cat stays


:>lean and flexible. She also never tires of a caress, if its delivered
:>properly. Really, Tony, you'd think being married and all you would
:>know this. Unless you haven't been...
:
:I'm not married.

:
:But if you are offering you have to sell the car. I can't have a


:woman with a faster car than me.

:
So if you were married you'd let her wear the pants, right? If she was my
wife, it would also be my car, heaven forbid. Enough said. :|

Wondering if I can get far enough away from that one. - LMAO -

Subic Sailor

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Tygress(Emily) wrote in message <35ec1209...@news.mindspring.com>...
:On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:11:50 -0700, "貪人" <nos...@canadawired.com>
:
Does he really have that I need to get laid look? ;)

NoOption5L

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In article <35eb587e....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com (White
Tornado Jr. ) writes:

>hea hea

GET A LIFE YOU DAMN TROLL!!!

NoOption5L

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In article <199809010146...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, seev...@aol.com
(SEEverist) writes:

>>And one more that I completely forgot about is the seeverist, Steve.

>>He'll definately pay for deserting us and buying that, that....dirty
>>word...that GM product called a....BBBBuick. Uck! <spitting>

>BITE ME!

Yah, that Steve, always the kidder! Quite the funny guy...<mumbling again>
That GM owning, lowlife b*stard, he'll pay too...try to embarrass me... <now
scratching HIS name off the list>

LeAnne Davis

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NoOption5L wrote:

>
> In article, "狂人" <nos...@canadawired.com> writes:
>
> >>Marc Warden, Gary H, Stephen Fisher,
> >>Anthony, Subic, or David Wei (did I leave anyone out?) and maybe some
> >rookies,
>
> >Thanks for even remembering my name... :) BTW, what am I gonna be grilled
> >about? :)
>
> Just wait! I'm still digging up dirt on you. And the current pile is already
> about 6 feet high.


I guess I should be glad I didn't make the cut...or perhaps I should refrain
from mentioning cutting since I'm outnumbered....

L
--
LeAnne Davis, CQE, CPT mailto:LeAnne...@ti.com
Mechanical Products Configuration Manager 972-952-5620
Raytheon SES Systems
Std Disclaimer: Ces avis sont les miens, obtiennent vos propres avis!
http://www.geocities.com/~fannincounty

LeAnne Davis

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Subic Sailor wrote:
>
> White Tornado Jr. wrote in reply to Emily whose attributions were snipped...

> :> Sounds nice, I'm practically purring.
> :
> :I thought you and the FROG were having an affair?
> :
> :> All the better to please you, my dear. You do like full grown
> :>women, don't you, Tony?
> :
> :No they scare me. And sometimes they bite.
> :
> I don't like it when girls bite. I have teeth mark scars to prove it.
> Besides, they could lose some teeth too. ;)
>
> :> Poor care on their owner's part. A well "excercised" cat stays
> :>lean and flexible. She also never tires of a caress, if its delivered
> :>properly. Really, Tony, you'd think being married and all you would
> :>know this. Unless you haven't been...
> :
> :I'm not married.
> :
> :But if you are offering you have to sell the car. I can't have a
> :woman with a faster car than me.
> :
> So if you were married you'd let her wear the pants, right? If she was my
> wife, it would also be my car, heaven forbid. Enough said. :|


no...no...no...you have it all wrong sailor dude...when you get hitched,
the fist - er - first lesson you must learn is what is hers remains hers
& what was yours is now hers also...learn this well & you will live long
& prosper...<grin>

David Lyons

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NoOption5L wrote:
>
[snip]

So who's going to interview *you*?

Dave

David Lyons

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LeAnne Davis wrote:
>
> no...no...no...you have it all wrong sailor dude...when you get hitched,
> the fist - er - first lesson you must learn is what is hers remains hers
> & what was yours is now hers also...learn this well & you will live long
> & prosper...<grin>

And the second is that when she's happy, you're happy; when she's not
happy, you're not happy.

Dave

Subic Sailor

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NoOption5L wrote in message
<199809010731...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
:In article <35eb587e....@NEWS3.IBM.NET>, TheWhit...@yahoo.com

(White
:Tornado Jr. ) writes:
:
:>>Actually, it could have been decided with a coin toss. Both in my view
are
:>>intriguing people. WT got the edge because he is the most misunderstood
:>>person in here. I wanted to answer the, "why is someone who doesn't own
a
:>>Mustang and or a Ford powered vehicle in here" question.
:
:>Hey! I have a Ford powered vehicle, and it's got a bigger engine than
:>your wussie little 5.0L and 4.6Ls.
:
:>hea hea
:
:>That and that POS Escort that is disgracing my driveway.

I think you're a prouyd Ford owner. If you were really embarassed by the
Ford you stow it in the garage or park it down the street...like my friends
with Chevys do when they come over.

:
:GET A LIFE YOU DAMN TROLL!!!


He does. This is it.


:
:Patrick

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