3-Chamber vs. 2-Chamber Mufflers
Jeff Husges
has over the other, if there are any?
Jim Stoltz
>
>Can anyone tell me what the differences/advantages one
>has over the other, if there are any?
The two chamber is cheaper, louder, and smaller. There is no HP
difference between the two, according to Flowmaster. I've got 2s and
they're too loud to drive everyday. They sound really cool, though.
Jim S
Scott Morris
: Can anyone tell me what the differences/advantages one
: has over the other, if there are any?
In the FlowMasters, the 3 chamber mufflers are quieter than the 2 chamber
mufflers (still a healthy sound from the 3s) but supposedly give you more
horsepowers. I've got the 3 chamber flowmasters with the tailpipes and
flowpipes. It sounds great.
Hope that helps...
Scott
Robert C. Barth
'chea...@ix.netcom.com(Jim Stoltz )' wrote:
>The two chamber is cheaper, louder, and smaller. There is no HP
>difference between the two, according to Flowmaster. I've got 2s and
>they're too loud to drive everyday. They sound really cool, though.
loud for normal driving, but ya gotta love the sound"). :)
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charles copeland
Jim Stoltz <chea...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>In <30C7AF...@rain.org> Jeff Husges <jhu...@rain.org> writes:
>>
>>has over the other, if there are any?
>
>difference between the two, according to Flowmaster. I've got 2s and
>they're too loud to drive everyday. They sound really cool, though.
One note: The three chamber can be used with cat-less H-pipe, the
two chamber can not. That is the general opinion.
I once heard a two chamber with H-pipe. You could hear it four blocks away.
Michael Haiduk
: Can anyone tell me what the differences/advantages one
: has over the other, if there are any?
I have the Flowmaster 'Force II' kit, which is a complete bolt on cat-back
2.5 inch dia. system with 3-chamber mufflers. The same deal with 2-chamber
mufflers is called the 'American Thunder' kit. I wouldn't mess with the
two chambers unless you race at a track that requires mufflers, they're
pretty loud. My three chamber setup isn't that much louder than stock,
but the sound is a definite improvement. Plus, the car feels faster than
stock (never raced or dynoed so I can't back it up.)
Stephen Schlather
copeland) writes:
>
>One note: The three chamber can be used with cat-less H-pipe, the
>two chamber can not. That is the general opinion.
>
>I once heard a two chamber with H-pipe. You could hear it four blocks
away.
>
on the car?
When I bought my '93 it supposedly had 2ch. It wasn't really all that
loud. I've since put on an offroad h-pipe but it doesn't seem to have
made it THAT much louder. I still drive it on a daily basis (but maybe
I've suffered hearing loss or something). Anyway, now I'm wondering if
I've really got 2ch or 3ch...
-SS
Jim Stoltz
>Jim Stoltz <chea...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>In <30C7AF...@rain.org> Jeff Husges <jhu...@rain.org> writes:
>>>
>>>has over the other, if there are any?
>>
>>difference between the two, according to Flowmaster. I've got 2s and
>>they're too loud to drive everyday. They sound really cool, though.
>>Jim S
>
>two chamber can not. That is the general opinion.
>
>I once heard a two chamber with H-pipe. You could hear it four blocks
away.
>
cats. Your observation is correct. I've said it a million times, but
for the benefit of new folks, 2 chamber Flowmasters (on a non-turbo car
- I put my foot in my mouth in the 5.0 ML) are VERY loud. I didn't
really realize it until I lent the car to my brother to run to the auto
parts store. I was working in the garage w/ music blaring and I could
hear his entire trip - about 1/2 mile away. I heard him get to the end
of the street, make the left onto 46, rev the hell out of it through
3rd gear and stop at the light by the auto parts store. I heard him
leave the light and then he must have parked (couldn't hear him idling
in the parking lot, thank God). I heard him leave the lot, and rev it
some more (he doesn't get out much) on the way home. If this is the
kind of loud you want, go for it. The SOUND is great, the loud isn't.
Jim Stoltz
Jonathan W. Bekenstein
>cats. Your observation is correct. I've said it a million times, but
>for the benefit of new folks, 2 chamber Flowmasters (on a non-turbo car
>- I put my foot in my mouth in the 5.0 ML) are VERY loud.
I have a 2 chamber on my 84 SVO. It is a single exhaust and the engine is
a turbo. The 4 cyl. turbo isn't too loud even without a muffler. The 2
chamber on a turbo is not much louder than stock and gives a nice rumble
to the exhaust. Flowmaster recommends a center inlet muffler (as opposed
to the double offset stock) for turbos. The Merkur xr4ti single exhaust
was a center inlet. The three chamber will not fit for a center inlet
muffler. The 2 chamber fits easily. I have no other mods on the engine
other than K&N air filter and the car is noticibly quicker with the
flowmaster compared to a friend's SVO with the stock muffler. The turbo
certainly quiets the exhaust. I'd bet it's the same with a blown V8.
Please register your SVO mustangs with the SVO owner's association.
Contact me for details.
Jon
Jim Stoltz
Schlather) writes:
>
>In <charles1D...@netcom.com> char...@netcom.com (charles
>copeland) writes:
>>
>>One note: The three chamber can be used with cat-less H-pipe, the
>>two chamber can not. That is the general opinion.
>>
>>I once heard a two chamber with H-pipe. You could hear it four blocks
>away.
>>
>on the car?
>
>When I bought my '93 it supposedly had 2ch. It wasn't really all that
>loud. I've since put on an offroad h-pipe but it doesn't seem to have
>made it THAT much louder. I still drive it on a daily basis (but maybe
>I've suffered hearing loss or something). Anyway, now I'm wondering
if
>I've really got 2ch or 3ch...
>
>-SS
actually gives the dimensions of the mufflers, compare their specs to
yours. I think, though, you'd know if you had 2s. I can pick 'em out
of the crowd. They have the patented Flowmaster sound, but much
louder.
Jim Stoltz
Gregory
>Can anyone tell me what the differences/advantages one
>has over the other, if there are any?
In the HP sence, there is no difference.
But the noise level in 2 chamber is much louder that 3
chamber. However 3 chamber is more expenseve.
I personnaly have 2 chamber Flowmaster, it make cool
racing sound, i love it. Planing to put some equal length
headers also,MAC probobly, it will make sound even more
louder.
David Wilkins
> Jeff Husges (jhu...@rain.org) wrote:
> : Can anyone tell me what the differences/advantages one
> : has over the other, if there are any?
>
> In the FlowMasters, the 3 chamber mufflers are quieter than the 2 chamber
> mufflers (still a healthy sound from the 3s) but supposedly give you more
> horsepowers. I've got the 3 chamber flowmasters with the tailpipes and
> flowpipes. It sounds great.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> Scott
>
>
Don't forget the pipe size. As far as dyno testing, etc. I'm afraid I do
not have any comparisons for the tail pipe diameters, and would love it if
anyone has info to share! But I do know, that it makes a difference in sound.
I have 2-chambers in my car, with 2-1/2 pipes all the way from my headers
to the tail-pipe. Compared to a friends 2-chamber, non-cat H-pipe stang,
2-1/4 system, my car has a lower tone, but seems to be real close in
loudness. Another friend of mine had installed 3-chamber, 2-1/4 system,
at idle, my car had a slightly louder, and more raunchy note. Up near 5
grand, well that is a different story!!! As Scott mentined above, I
believe they give a few mor HP's, but I don't think enough to matter.
I hope some of this was of help!
Overnout::
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