What is a Cage, Cager?!?
81 Capri 351w
am i right... do i get a No-Prize?!?
--
"Well, I gotta tell ya - I'd be very careful who I talk to about this.
Because the person who wrote this is dangerous. And one day they could just
snap. And then this button-down, Oxford-cloth psycho, stalking from office
to office with an Armalite AR-180 carbine gas-operated semi-automatic,
pumping round after round into colleagues and coworkers. This could be
someone you've known for years. Someone very close to you."
Edward Norton
Fight Club (1999)
Erik D.
most other bikers anyway.
Erik D.
'93 lx
Troy the Troll
"81 Capri 351w" <sabr...@sssnet.com> wrote in message
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> new to this lingo help a brother out... my guess would be a
street racer?!?
> am i right... do i get a No-Prize?!?
Those of us who can use performance machines, and those of us who
can't but still spend alot of time on 2 wheels anyway, use
"cager" as a derogatory term to refer to drivers of automobiles
and trucks. The term is definately derogatory in nature. A
"cage", as in four wheeled safety cage, is required for a "cager"
because playing bumper cars is what they do, with a complete
disregard for driving skill, paying attention, twiddling with the
radio, doing their hair, etc etc.
They are simply big, slow, ungainly, dangerous, and, in my humble
opinion, incompetent.
Does this help?
C. Olofsson
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Shut up, Troy.
Cindy
'96 laser red AODE GTS
Max C. Webster III
>Those of us who can use performance machines, and those of us who
>can't but still spend alot of time on 2 wheels anyway, use
>"cager" as a derogatory term to refer to drivers of automobiles
>and trucks.
Does cage refer to convertibles, too?
> The term is definately derogatory in nature. A
>"cage", as in four wheeled safety cage, is required for a "cager"
>because playing bumper cars is what they do, with a complete
>disregard for driving skill, paying attention, twiddling with the
>radio, doing their hair, etc etc.
>
>They are simply big, slow, ungainly, dangerous, and, in my humble
>opinion, incompetent.
Which only brings up another question: If cagers (and their cages) are such a
dangerous nuisance, why would you ride your bike amongst them? Those big,
slow, ungainly, dangerous SUVs and their INHO incompetent drivers scare the
hell out of me, and I'm in a safety "cage". It would be utterly foolish to
ride a bike in such dangerous conditions.
- Max -
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Jack, relax. Get busy with the faqs.
Troy the Troll
> > They are simply big, slow, ungainly, dangerous, and, in my
humble
> > opinion, incompetent.
> >
> > Does this help?
>
> Shut up, Troy.
>
> Cindy
Hey...they ASKED.....
Troy the Troll
"Max C. Webster III" <maxx...@aol.com.mil.gov> wrote in message
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> Troy the Troll done said:
>
> >Those of us who can use performance machines, and those of us
who
> >can't but still spend alot of time on 2 wheels anyway, use
> >"cager" as a derogatory term to refer to drivers of
automobiles
> >and trucks.
>
>
> Does cage refer to convertibles, too?
Yep. Convertibles, trucks, econo boxes, mini-vans, semi's,
HumVee's, etc etc.
> Which only brings up another question: If cagers (and their
cages) are such a
> dangerous nuisance, why would you ride your bike amongst them?
Because I am BRAVE! And I have the advantages inherent in a
performance machine! Which, while few in number, are substantial
in quality.
Oh...and another explanation...if I have to explain to you the
wonders of a motorcycle, you wouldn't understand. It appears to
be one of THOSE kinds of activities, no matter how hard you try,
explanation just doesn't do it. Either you can, or you can't. If
you can't, you cage, and then wonder why people ride those silly
2 wheelers. If you can, you do, and you know.
> Those big,
> slow, ungainly, dangerous SUVs and their INHO incompetent
drivers scare the
> hell out of me, and I'm in a safety "cage". It would be
utterly foolish to
> ride a bike in such dangerous conditions.
>
You don't so much RIDE among them as try and SURVIVE among
them...a concept which few cagers understand. It comes down to
the mindset really, cagers don't ever have to be responsible for
their actions, they slam and bang into things, oops, dinged
bumper, dented quarter panel, somebody call the insurance
company.
Regardless of fault, if a bike is involved, the bikes rider is
the one who is gonna get hurt. So...you get hurt and get out of
the sport, or you pay attention, learn to trust no cager
incompetents, and you survive. Maybe.
81 Capri 351w
isnt the Honda CBR 600 F4 a beginners bike just wondering as your email says
F4
eplain you way out of this one :)
Mike
No. Actually, the F4i is a serious 600 series sportbike. One capable of
knocking your dick in the dirt if your not careful. A Ninja 250/500 is a
beginner bike.
> just wondering as your email says
>F4
I think Troy stepped up from the F4 to the 929 and just hasn't changed the E
mail addy to reflect it. I could be wrong though. He does have a yellow/black
929RR thta i know of for sure.
Mike
1996 Camaro SS
Brad
"C. Olofsson" <awsum...@cox.net> wrote in message
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No, Cindy, he's right. Take for example my 1988 Bronco. It is big (for
example 35" mud terrain tires), slow (only 190 horse and 280 lbs of torque
pulling almost 6000lbs of American sheet metal), ungainly (handles um, not
too good), dangerous (only to Troy (and the environment)) and sure, even
incompetent: but of course, the day "I" am incompetent, Troy, for you, it
ain't going to matter. Splat.
Unfortunately, up here in the Rockies, it's getting cold now and all the
cool racer bike guys that survived the summer are starting to park their
donor-cycles for another winter.
Remember Troy, sign your fucking donor card! A cager needs your organs!
hahaha :)
Brad
Troy the Troll
and all the
> cool racer bike guys that survived the summer are starting to
park their
> donor-cycles for another winter.
Says you slow poke. Even as you post I am re-mapping fuel
injection, installing kit pads and SS lines, checking the
pressure on the race tires, preparing for combat at 150mph down
Lagunas front straight with my knee touching someone elses
fairing while another lunatic on the other side tries to nudge my
entire LEG into the first bike....
You pansies who require 6000 pounds of steel to take somebody out
need to grow a BALL or two.
Troy the Troll
> "Troy the Troll" <f4...@attbi.com>
> isnt the Honda CBR 600 F4 a beginners bike just wondering as
your email says
> F4
> eplain you way out of this one :)
Long, long ago, in a galazy far, far away....
After more than 10 years in the sportbike game I took a one year
hiatus. When I returned in 99 I went out and got an F4, seen here
in action at Road Atlanta in 2000.
http://home.attbi.com/~fivecooks/bikes/atlanta00.jpg
A dozen trips to the track or so and I felt back in form so I
went out and got a machine to make sure the instructors at the
track don't get too cocky...
http://home.attbi.com/~fivecooks/bikes/tttatlaguna.jpg
I kept the email address from way back when because I had no
overwhelming desire to change it.
Besides, if I changed it the twits around here would accuse me of
trying to dodge peoples kill files....
Troy the Troll
"Mike" <mpo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://home.attbi.com/~f4boy/pics/929.JPG
And the newest addition to the family fleet...
http://home.attbi.com/~f4boy/bikeclean.JPG
Merc
those Hondas Troy. Neither of them compare in looks to my old Yamaha Maxim
750. In fact, they are downright ugly!
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Merc
69 Mach 1 clone 351 W FMX
78 F-250 SC XLT 4x4 400 C6
94 Chev Silverado 3500 CC 4x4
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Subic Sailor
"Brad" <brada...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> Remember Troy, sign your fucking donor card! A cager needs your organs!
> hahaha :)
>
> Brad
>
*LMFAO*
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Original owner '91 5.0 coupe
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>
<snip>
>
> They are simply big,
Check...
slow,
Check...
ungainly,
Check...
dangerous,
Check...
and, in my humble
> opinion, incompetent.
Check...
> Does this help?
>
Yeah. With those clues I think you're talking about Porky. Am I right?
Subic Sailor
<snip>
>
> You pansies who require 6000 pounds of steel to take somebody out
> need to grow a BALL or two.
>
OTOH, you need to spit them out...
Jim Warman
mention is those kids on their crotch rockets are usually so busy scaring
themselves into wet diapers that they squeeze their eyes shut really, really
tight. That way they don't have to see their acquaintances being scrapped
off the back of a school bus.
Us old farts on our cruisers like to look at stuff when we ride. BTW, our
first snow is usually a couple of days before hallowe'en - that's over two
more weeks of cruisin'....
--
Jim Warman
mech...@telusplanet.net
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Iggy
>hahaha :)
Ewww, who in the holy hell would want his gin-soaked, syphallitic organs?
Iggy
'01 Dyna Super Glide
'96 Mustang GT Convertible (Finally!!!!!!)
Keep your powder dry and don't let your meat-loaf. :o)
Troy the Troll
"Merc" <mach1...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I dare you to ride into the local chapter of Hell's Angels on
either of
> those Hondas Troy. Neither of them compare in looks to my old
Yamaha Maxim
> 750. In fact, they are downright ugly!
>
> --
> Merc
Last time I participated in a little ride around for kids with
the Hardley dudes, they didn't seem to mind the company.....
81 Capri 351w
> knocking your dick in the dirt if your not careful. A Ninja 250/500 is a
> beginner bike.
>
sport bike. if you want to taste some real power try a Gixer, hondas are for
the meek. i never minded riding with cagers its other bikers that scare to
shit out of me. spent 3 days in a hospital because a friend of mine was
over riding his ability. i made out a little better then him thu he now
walks with a permanent limp. oh and by the way it was a F4 that rear ended
me :(
Friends dont let friend ride Hondas!
AJF
Mike
>sorry mike but around here a f4 (and any model of harley) is an entry level
>sport bike. if you want to taste some real power try a Gixer, hondas are for
>the meek.
>
>Friends dont let friend ride Hondas!
Mike
1996 Camaro SS
Troy the Troll
> > No. Actually, the F4i is a serious 600 series sportbike.
One capable of
> > knocking your dick in the dirt if your not careful. A Ninja
250/500 is a
> > beginner bike.
> >
> sorry mike but around here a f4 (and any model of harley) is an
entry level
> sport bike.
Spoken like a squid who wouldn't know a 1:30 lap time at Road
Atlanta on a 600 from a hole in his head.
> if you want to taste some real power try a Gixer, hondas are
for
> the meek.
The only decent Gixxer going is the 750...but then it IS a good
one.
> i never minded riding with cagers its other bikers that scare
to
> shit out of me. spent 3 days in a hospital because a friend of
mine was
> over riding his ability.
Is this the same friend that convinced you a 600 is a beginners
bike?
>i made out a little better then him thu he now
> walks with a permanent limp. oh and by the way it was a F4 that
rear ended
> me :(
>
Sounds like you have some pretty bad riding buddies.
Troy the Troll
Thanks Mike!
Not a surprise though, squidlings and Mustangs drivers are pretty
similar....maybe thats where squidlings go when their "permanent
limp" convinces them they don't have what it takes to ride
performance machines.
81 Capri 351w
> Atlanta on a 600 from a hole in his head.
i knew this guy once he actually got sponsered to ride for ohio superbike
always bragged about how good he was racing. i asked him he if he owned a
sportbike. he said he didnt. later i had the opertunity to go down to
daytona for the 200. he was there. you know he wrecked both of Ohio
Superbikes 750s, one on his 3rd practice lap and the other in the second lap
of the race. so not everyone who races knows jake shit about bikes. me, i
am a wrench that races i run em like i can fix em. i run at the strip thu
7.30's in the 1/8 at 99 mph with a 1.80 60 footer. no wheelie bars no drag
slicks just me and the old tech 89 GSX-R 750.
you call me a squid again and i might just have to pay you a visit ;)
and a 600 is still an ENTRY LEVEL sport bike.
Troy the Troll
> you call me a squid again and i might just have to pay you a
visit ;)
>
> and a 600 is still an ENTRY LEVEL sport bike.
>
For being stupid enough to say sentence #2 as fact...and being
wrong.....I will challenge you on sentence #1...SQUID.
This is the second time TONIGHT I've done this, but then you are
the second person this evening who has dared me..
I'm prepping the Honda for Laguna, need to get some of the mods
debugged, so I'll be at Second Creek sometime during the month of
October, do you have a particular day you might be interested in
"paying me a visit" ?
Bring a bike or one of those little open wheel spec
racers....with a bike you'll probably lose but if you've got a
spec racer...those things are wicked.
81 Capri 351w
up here called nelson's ledges i'll scrounge up a bike and we can duel it
out.
--
"Well, I gotta tell ya - I'd be very careful who I talk to about this.
Because the person who wrote this is dangerous. And one day they could just
snap. And then this button-down, Oxford-cloth psycho, stalking from office
to office with an Armalite AR-180 carbine gas-operated semi-automatic,
pumping round after round into colleagues and coworkers. This could be
someone you've known for years. Someone very close to you."
Edward Norton
Fight Club (1999)
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Troy the Troll
> next time your in my neighborhood let me know we've got a nice
little track
> up here called nelson's ledges i'll scrounge up a bike and we
can duel it
> out.
Mid-Ohio as soon as they repave it, I don't like dinky tracks if
at all possible. BeaverRun sounds good though. The big track at
Summit Point perhaps? Road America? The traveling troy show will
be visiting more than one of them next spring and
summer...assuming you have a performance machine....I only
venture out against cages locally, dicing with a cage while
riding a bike is bad news for the bike....
ak...@webtv.net
Im glad i don't need a perfectly dry asphalt road to drive or race on
or have a higher chance of dying or getting hurt by hitting a pothole
even a slow speeds not to mention stay dry when it rains or snows.
Bikes aren't that great in many races like rally or WRC tracks nothing
is more of a rush like powersliding through sharp c and s curves in dirt
and snow or even some asphalt roads while its snowing or raining using a
controlled drift techniques like left foot braking or counterdrift.
Glad i don't have to wuss out for a drive or race if the weather gets
bad, not counting hurricanes, or if the tracks aren't in perfect
conditions like cracks or permafrost or some thing miniscule.
Everytime i see a baja race there are cagers flying by bikes like
their standing still. F1 cagers set allot of the speed records on the
dry tracks
All the land speed records i know of are set by so called cagers there
are go carts driven by kids that will blow bikes away on a racetrack
they are mini cagers.
Watch out for dogs deer moose a stick in the road while your out riding
Troy the Troll
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> I have been wondering what the hell a cager is and im glad to
be one
Really? From a webtv'er that isn't a surprise I suppose.
>
> Im glad i don't need a perfectly dry asphalt road to drive or
race on
> or have a higher chance of dying or getting hurt by hitting a
pothole
> even a slow speeds not to mention stay dry when it rains or
snows.
>
A) You know nothing about bikes if you think potholes are
dangerous.
B) You know nothing about bikes if you think they can't be used
effectively on wet pavement.
C) You know nothing about bikes if your only concern is the
higher risk involved in learning to use a performance machine.
Sounds like you pretty much know nothing.
> Bikes aren't that great in many races like rally or WRC
tracks nothing
> is more of a rush like powersliding through sharp c and s
curves in dirt
> and snow or even some asphalt roads while its snowing or
raining using a
> controlled drift techniques like left foot braking or
counterdrift.
A) Drifting two wheels at the same time is much more entertaining
than drifting 4. Any idiot can drift 4 wheels, as evidenced
by...well...YOU.
> Watch out for dogs while your out riding
Send me a picture and I'll know what to watch out for...
>
Subic Sailor
>
<snip>
>
> > Watch out for dogs while your out riding
>
> Send me a picture and I'll know what to watch out for...
...Porky...
ak...@webtv.net
the fact remains in a whole cars are still superior to bikes
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> with out name calling or insults
>
> the fact remains in a whole cars are still superior to bikes
Oh my yes.
Wanna race?
Your superior cage against my bike?
Ralph Snart
Bikes: Lighter, better power to weight ratio. 2 wheels are less stable
than 4 (balance a bike a stop light). No protection from the elements, no
protection from injuries sustained from collisions....
Cars; Lower power to weith ratio, stable (4 wheels), enclosed; protects
occupants from weather, less tiring than riding exposed to the elements, can
be used in extreme climates (heat for the snow belt, A/C for the tropical
areas); large frame to protect occupants in case of collision....
And I ride myself, but there is more to life than going from 0-60 in 4.2
seconds.
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Troy the Troll
> And I ride myself, but there is more to life than going from
0-60 in 4.2
> seconds.
If the performance available on a bike were only as good as you
suggest, I wouldn't ride one for the performance either.
ak...@webtv.net
the best
grip vs drift , if you ony rely on grip you can only go so far