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How do you reset the "Check Engine" light?

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donm...@home.com

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Nov 22, 2000, 12:53:55 AM11/22/00
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My Check Engine light just came on after I flipped to 60K miles. How do I
reset the damn thing without paying for $100 to press a button?

d...@dmack.net


David Schaefer

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Disconnect your battery for about 1 minute, then reconnect

Steve Parker

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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You need to read the error codes and fix it.

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donm...@home.com

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Nov 22, 2000, 10:58:47 PM11/22/00
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This one I don't buy. I used to have a Chrysler that came on every 20k after
40k. They never did anything but charge me $50 for one hour of shop time to
reset the light.


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> You need to read the error codes and fix it.
>
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Robert

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Nov 23, 2000, 12:07:47 AM11/23/00
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You need to pull the codes with a scan tool. Then repair the cause of the code
setting. If you have a explorer ( as the news group is for) The check engine
lamp is a federal requirement of OBD1 rules. If you don't buy it, you can just
put tape across the lamp. Then all you need is a good pair of shoes to wear when
you have to push the truck.

Listen to Steve he is correct and you are very wrong.

Rob

Robert C

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Nov 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/23/00
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Over the years manufactures have used the caption "Check Engine" on
indicator lights that covered many different functions. Some did come
on simply as a matter of mileage. This was designed to force certain
emissions system maintenance although some repair shop did simply
reset the light without performing the required maintenance. At on
time Ford used a single light called "Check Engine" for both high
engine temperature and low oil pressure.

The current use of the "Check engine" light is to indicate that the on
board computer has detected a problem. This does require a code
scanner to determine what is wrong. It could be as simple as a loose
gas cap or a more serious problem. In any case whatever cased the
light to come on should be repaired.

Robert C.

John Phillips

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Nov 23, 2000, 11:55:38 PM11/23/00
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I'm currently a tad baffled by the "Check Engine" light scenario.

I had my Explorer in for fuel injector service. About two days after that,
the check engine light came on so I made an appointment to go back. When I
took it back, they ran the scanner on it but couldn't get anything but
gibberish (their words not mine). The reset the light and said to come back
if it came back on. Luckily they didn't charge me. :)

Sure enough, two days later, bingo the "Check Engine" light is back on. I
can't see/hear/feel any problems other than being a little gutless on long
slow inclines/hills but I doubt that would make the light go on (it's been
like that since I bought it).

Anyway, back to the shop, onto the scanner, same "gibberish", same look of
confusion from the tech. Once again with the reset "call if it happens
again" answer (luckily again, no charge).

So do I find another Ford service center and see if they can find anything
or is this a chronic problem like I used to have on my F150 (even the
original dealer I bought it from said to ignore it as a known "glitch" on
that model pickup).

Comments, suggestions, areas to look for problems? The vehicle is a '97 XL
4x4 with the SOHC. 90,000km mostly highway, some city and some light offroad
(dirt/gravel). I don't tow anything but do carry a Bull Mastiff (all 130lbs)
in the back.

"Robert C" <rob...@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Over the years manufactures have used the caption "Check Engine" on
> indicator lights that covered many different functions. Some did come
> on simply as a matter of mileage. This was designed to force certain
> emissions system maintenance although some repair shop did simply
> reset the light without performing the required maintenance. At on
> time Ford used a single light called "Check Engine" for both high
> engine temperature and low oil pressure.
>
> The current use of the "Check engine" light is to indicate that the on
> board computer has detected a problem. This does require a code
> scanner to determine what is wrong. It could be as simple as a loose
> gas cap or a more serious problem. In any case whatever cased the
> light to come on should be repaired.
>
> Robert C.
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 03:58:47 GMT, <donm...@home.com> wrote:
>

Robert C

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Nov 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/24/00
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I would definitely get a second opinion from another repair shop.
Does not necessarily have to be a dealer as any well equipped
independent repair shop should have a scan tool.

Since the light came on two days after the fuel injector service and
then comes back on two days after the "reset" would suggest the
possibility the repair shop did something wrong in the fuel injector
service which is causing the problem. Could this also explain why
they see "gibberish"? If they caused the problem they might have an
incentive not to be able to read the code.

Robert C

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:55:38 GMT, "John Phillips" <jcph...@home.com>
wrote:

Cpieri

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Nov 24, 2000, 5:53:49 PM11/24/00
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Well, it's comforting to know that others are having the same problem as I am.
Just had the "Check Engine" light come on after 60,000 miles. '97 Explorer
XLT. Took it into my trusty mechanic to get it fixed. They found that the
problem was related to a recall:
Owner Notification Program 00M12:Certain 1997 Through 2000 Exporer/Mountaineer
and 2001 Explorer Sport/Sprot-Trac vehicles equipped with 4.0L SOHC engines -
Camshaft Chain Tensioner and Lower Intake Manifold Gasket - Additional
Coverage.
Did you all know about this? Caught me totally by surprise. Basically, the
program extends the coverage for the 4.0L SOHC camshaft chain tensioner and
lower intake manifold gasket to 6 years or 72,000 miles from the vehicle's
warranty start date. coverage automatically transfers to subsequent owners.
If you already have 72,000 miles, this coverage will last untill April 30,
2001.
This covers certain vehicle as I mentioned above with engines built at the
Louisville Assembly Plant and the St. Louis Assembly Plants from job #1, 1997
through April 7, 2000. Also, certain 2001 Explorer Sport and Sport-Trac
vehicles with engines built at the Louisville Assembly Plant. Owners of
affected vehicles are to be notified. If either item require replacement, the
dealer is instructed to replace both with upgraded parts at the same time, at
no charge to the customer!
Apparently they have incorporated enhancements into newly produced Explorer
4.0L SOHC engines. Symptoms of the need to replace the camshaft chain
tensioner is typically an engine rattling noise that occurs just after cold
engine start up and goes away within a few minutes after the engine is running
(mine definitely has the rattling). rough idle and low idle are symptoms which
may, in some cases, indicate an intake manifold leak. They do go on to say
that neither of these conditions will cause engine damage or failure.

Well, I have looked through a lot of the postings on this board and there seems
to be a lot of this type of problem. According to the bulletin I just received
from my mechanic, Ford should replace these items at no cost up to 6 years or
72,000 miles, or until April 30, 2001.

Good luck all.
Chris.

Robert

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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Well based on this, I think I will try calling a different dealer on Monday
to see if I can get my deisel sounding Explorer fixed for a third time. That
is excellent news since I am now at 62K and have had the problem since about
40K after getting the tensioners replaced twice already under the the 36K
warranty. The Owner Notification Program number 00M12 sounds feasable since
the last one listed on NHTSA.com is 00M11 for the broken sway-bar links
which just recently came out. Hopefully the new dealer I try on Monday will
be a lot better than the previous two that I have tried.

Robert

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Luigi Marazzi

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Nov 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/26/00
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The codes can be read without a scanner. In fact, the engine warning
light can be made to flash the codes. (The correct way is with a simple
voltmeter with a sweep hand). I have the diagram for a 91 somewhere It
is simple enough when you kind of think it through. Most explorer
manuals have a list of error codes. I have a set of those too. Codes are
cumulative so one probelm may result in 3 or 4 error codes which in
themselves are not errors but are set off by the first code. There are
static codes and dynamic codes as well as a procedure to be followed
prior to reading them.. I could go on...............

sehaare

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Nov 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/26/00
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Luigi,

I believe you are right for a 91 ford (chevy and several others as well)
but as I understand it Ford has gone to a system which requires a scan
tool to read the new codes.

Anyone back me up on this?

Steve

Luigi Marazzi wrote:

IK

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Nov 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/26/00
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Starting with the '96 model, all auto makers transitioned to the OBDII
system. This requires a computer to access the engine controller. No
counting of flashing lights or sweeping voltmeter hands any more.
You may blame the government.

-- IK

Robert

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Nov 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/27/00
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I just got off the phone with Simone at the Ford hotline number
regarding the Owner Notification Program regardind the 4.0L SOHC V6
camshaft tensioner noise and lower intake manifold o-ring leaks
(campaign ID# 00M12). She confirmed that the program is real and valid.
She said letters went out on 11/21/00 (at least mine did) based on VIN
numbers. The o-rings and tensioners are covered now for 6 years/72K
miles. If you have paid to have either replaced before the letters were
mailed out you are eligible for a refund for the repair costs.

Chris, thanks for the heads-up!

--
Robert


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Robert C

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Nov 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/27/00
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Luigi, You are correct about 91. For 95 and older that system
worked. It was not just Ford that changed, Federal law requires 96
and newer vehicles top be equipped with OBD2 (On Board Diagnostics 2)
and it all OBD2 systems that must be read with a scanner. For more
detail see http://www.obdii.com/obdii.html.

Robert C


On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:20:55 GMT, sehaare <seh...@home.com> wrote:

>Luigi,


>
>I believe you are right for a 91 ford (chevy and several others as well)
>but as I understand it Ford has gone to a system which requires a scan
>tool to read the new codes.
>
>Anyone back me up on this?
>
>Steve
>

>Luigi Marazzi wrote:


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