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Spears

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Apr 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/28/99
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I have a 99 EB 4x4, and I was wondering if it is normal for the rear end to
appear to be sagging lower than the front. I thought it was just me and
didn't think much about it until other people I know comment on it too. And
its not just my truck, almost all explorers I see have this same problem.
Is there a fix? or should I worry about it.

I would hate to see it if I did have a heavy load in it.

Thanks
Scott

CaliStyle

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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This appears to be a consistent issue with about 90%+ of all the
Explorers that I've seen.
I have a '98 Explorer Sport that had the same problem.
What I made an attempt to do, first, was lower the front a bit by
adjusting the torsion bars.
Your 4X4 may have springs in the front though.
However, when I had my car on the alignment rack I found out that my
vehicle was off angle on all 4 corners, specifically in the front
before anyone started making adjustments.
So...to the level the vehicle on all 4 corners Ii had to torque down
the torsion bar on the passenger side as far down as I could safely
go.

At least the vehicle was level.
Yet, I still wanted the profile of the front being lower than the
back.
So I opted for some air shocks in the back, to allow me to adjust the
height and my leisure.

If you're interested in seeing what it looks like, you can check out
my site @:

http://24.130.92.140/Explorer/vehicle.html

Peace!

Ted

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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All '95 and later Explorers have torsion bars up front whether 2WD or
4 X 4


On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:59:37 GMT, Cali...@biosys.net (CaliStyle)
wrotf:

Jeffrey L. Jue

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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In article <5992E36EFDD59713.4427AE4C727212DA.047D8E80739FF2B5@library-
proxy.airnews.net>,

"Spears" <spe...@fastlane.netREMOVE> wrote:
> I have a 99 EB 4x4, and I was wondering if it is normal for the rear
end to
> appear to be sagging lower than the front. I thought it was just me
and
> didn't think much about it until other people I know comment on it
too. And
> its not just my truck, almost all explorers I see have this same
problem.
> Is there a fix? or should I worry about it.
>
> I would hate to see it if I did have a heavy load in it.

The rear sag is attributed to rear leaf spring weakness. Due to the
popularity of fully loaded SUVs by women (and men, but mostly women)
who think that an SUV should ride like the luxury car that they just
traded off, Ford decided to put slightly weaker rear leaf springs in
the back starting around 1995. I can feel the ride difference between
my '94 Explorer that my sister has been driving as of December (and
just recently wrecked) and my '97 Mountaineer V8. My Mountaineer
doesn't have as bad a sag as many other Explorers (and Mountaineers),
but I feel the extra sway at highway speed and when pulling my boat
and/or hauling lots of stuff in the back. When I get home after exams
(2 weeks left), I am definitely installing a leaf spring helper spring
of some sorts that will raise the rear a tad, provide extra rear
support, doesn't create a harsh ride & doesn't void the warranty.

--
Jeffrey L. Jue
l...@ra.msstate.edu
jl...@ece.msstate.edu
http://www2.msstate.edu/~lj4

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maypo...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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<5992E36EFDD59713.4427AE4C...@library-proxy.airnews.net

>, "Spears" <spe...@fastlane.netREMOVE> wrote: > I have a 99 EB 4x4, and I
was wondering if it is normal for the rear end to > appear to be sagging
lower than the front. I thought it was just me and > didn't think much about
it until other people I know comment on it too. And > its not just my truck,
almost all explorers I see have this same problem. > Is there a fix? or
should I worry about it. > > I would hate to see it if I did have a heavy
load in it. > > Thanks > Scott > > Scott, This sagging problem was a
topic of discussion a few months ago. I have a 99 Explorer XLT with the
towing package. Mine sags terribly. I have discussed this with the dealer
and he dealer's service manager and he says that all of the Explorers on the
lot sag a bit. He will check mine against factory specs next time it is in
the shop. In the meantime, I am taking pictures of it in various locations
to show him how ridiculous it looks (like its taking off at the starting line
at the drag strip). I will find out how bad the problem is next week when I
bring my daughter home from college. (camera will be along). The common
suggestion for the sag has been to adjust the front end down so that the
vehicle sits level. Unfortunately, I don't want to lose clearance. I am
looking into air lift kits, but am worried about getting other small problems
resolved under warranty after modifying the suspension. Mark

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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In article <7g8qch$l02$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Jeffrey L. Jue <l...@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> In article <5992E36EFDD59713.4427AE4C727212DA.047D8E80739FF2B5@library-
> proxy.airnews.net>,

> "Spears" <spe...@fastlane.netREMOVE> wrote:
> > I have a 99 EB 4x4, and I was wondering if it is normal for the rear
> end to
> > appear to be sagging lower than the front. I thought it was just me
> and
> > didn't think much about it until other people I know comment on it
> too. And
> > its not just my truck, almost all explorers I see have this same
> problem.
> > Is there a fix? or should I worry about it.
> >
> > I would hate to see it if I did have a heavy load in it.
>
> The rear sag is attributed to rear leaf spring weakness. Due to the
> popularity of fully loaded SUVs by women (and men, but mostly women)
> who think that an SUV should ride like the luxury car that they just
> traded off, Ford decided to put slightly weaker rear leaf springs in
> the back starting around 1995. I can feel the ride difference between
> my '94 Explorer that my sister has been driving as of December (and
> just recently wrecked) and my '97 Mountaineer V8. My Mountaineer
> doesn't have as bad a sag as many other Explorers (and Mountaineers),
> but I feel the extra sway at highway speed and when pulling my boat
> and/or hauling lots of stuff in the back. When I get home after exams
> (2 weeks left), I am definitely installing a leaf spring helper spring
> of some sorts that will raise the rear a tad, provide extra rear
> support, doesn't create a harsh ride & doesn't void the warranty.
>
> --
> Jeffrey L. Jue
> l...@ra.msstate.edu
> jl...@ece.msstate.edu
> http://www2.msstate.edu/~lj4
>

Any ideas of what this helper will be? I know there are a few on the market
for coil springs, but haven't noticed anything for leafs.

Dave

cz...@us.ibm.com

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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I have a 98 XLT and under some conditions (none of them with any cargo
loaded) had the impression that the rear end sat lower than the front. I
haven't actually measured the roof height at the front and rear of the
vehicle, but I did notice something recently.

If you look at the wheel wells of the Explorer, you will see that the
front wells appear to be taller than the rear ones. Maybe Ford thought
the front wheels needed more vertical clearance...who knows. I noticed
this when I compared how far the top of the front wheel wells from the
pinstripe as compared to the rear wells. This can easily provide an
optical illusion that the rear end sits lower than the front.

When I look at the explorer in my 7ft ceiling garage, the roof height
appears to be quite level. Also when I compare the Explorer roofline to
the JGC that I park next to, my roofline doesn't have the appearance of
the rear being lower.

While I'm not offering clinical proof, only anecdotal observations, I'm
pretty much convinced it is just an optical illusion.

Just my $.02! John

Jeffrey L. Jue

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Apr 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/29/99
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In article <7g9iub$905$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
wei...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <7g8qch$l02$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

> Any ideas of what this helper will be? I know there are a few on the
market
> for coil springs, but haven't noticed anything for leafs.
>
> Dave

I have looked at a Hellwig leaf spring setup that is two-piece because
of the limited clearance on the Explorer. It is a leaf spring
configuration that bolts over the existing springs and is adjustable.
I saw it for $79, I think, in the JC Whitney catalog. The other
alternative that I've looked at so far is also a bolt over
configuration. It's a coil type of helper that can be used with a leaf
spring. It's cheap ($29 something at Autozone including all necessary
hardware), and it's supposed to help. If I can raise the rear a tad,
and keep it more level when either towing and/or hauling stuff in the
back, I will be happy.

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Chris Bright

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May 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/6/99
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Spears wrote:

> I have a 99 EB 4x4, and I was wondering if it is normal for the rear end to
> appear to be sagging lower than the front. I thought it was just me and
> didn't think much about it until other people I know comment on it too. And
> its not just my truck, almost all explorers I see have this same problem.
> Is there a fix? or should I worry about it.

I have a 93XLT 4*4... the rear of mine saggs alot. I asked about it when I got
some other work done and the mechanic (friend of a friend) said that the leafs
had lost their spring and that they could be re-bent to the factory specs and
reinstalled... what would this do for the apearence/ride of the vehicle?

--
Later, Chris Bright


Zorak03

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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I have a 91 Explorer sport and my rear end is jacked up probably about 2 maybe
3 inchs higher then the front end, i was looking for a way to level it out a
little without hurting ride/towing any ideas?

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