When did Chrysler start using computers?
Ilya
When did Chrysler start using computers in its cars?
I am pretty sure that early 80s cars such as Plymouth Gran Fury did not
have fuel injection and computers. I am interested in cars made right
before fuel injection components were put in by emissions lunatics because
they are simple to work on and inexpensive where as I most likely could
not diagnose computer problems myself.
Also, when did Chrysler stop using its 318 V8 engine and how powerful was
318 V8 in 1984 Plymouth Gran Fury with 4 barrel carburator?
Thanks
Ilya
Jason Palmer
Ilya wrote:
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> Also, when did Chrysler stop using its 318 V8 engine
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> Ilya
Its still being used in the trucks.
Doug Barnes
computer (On the breather cover). It gas fouled plugs in the winter so
I eventually RIPPED the computer out and put in a distributor with
points (imagine that). Worked better then it did when it was new. They
still use the 318 in the RAM trucks (Dakota and the bigger RAM).
Whistling in the Dart
On 8 Apr 1997, Ilya wrote:
> When did Chrysler start using computers in its cars?
>
> I am pretty sure that early 80s cars such as Plymouth Gran Fury did not
> have fuel injection and computers. I am interested in cars made right
> before fuel injection components were put in by emissions lunatics because
> they are simple to work on and inexpensive where as I most likely could
> not diagnose computer problems myself.
BWAhahahahahah!!!! OK, Ilya. You go buy yourself a car made right before
fuel injection. You go ahead and tell us how "simple to work on and
inexpensive" that nightmarish feedback carburetion system is. Tell us,
that is, if you have time to sit at the computer and type a message
between sessions spent trying to get some of the poorer-designed feedback
carb systems to yiel acceptable drivability. I'll wait...
...
...
Don't get it? Okay: The feedback carburetion systems (carburetor with a
computer control) used on many cars between about '81 and about '85 (on
V8 Chrysler passenger cars from about '76 to about '89) are extremely
complex--much more so than the EFI systems that replaced them. They are
also extremely prone to several specific failure modes that are expensive
to fix. They are also extremely sensitive to a whole host of adjustments,
some of which cannot be made so that the car both passes emissions and has
acceptable driveability. Why are you so afraid of EFI??!!? I used to be
that way, until I bought what amounts to Chrysler's most sophisticated
iteration of the K-car derivative, my '91 Spirit R/T. This car has all
the stuff I used to be afraid of--MPFI, a turbo,a distributorless ignition
system, an engine control computer, oxygen sensor, etc. etc. etc. Know
what? It's about as easy to work on as my '65 Slant-6 Valiant. And the
'92 LeBaron with its 2.5 TBI engine is even easier to work on. These EFI
cars are MUCH less prone to mysterious, random, and/or unexpected failures
than are the cars made "right before EFI". They seem to be about as
dependable in that respect as the old Slant-6s. And, if they do
experience a problem, the computer goes a long way towards telling "where
it hurts", so you don't have to fart-around trying to track down that
driveability problem.
Your fear is unjustified. Either buy a pre-computer carbureted car, or a
computerized EFI car, but your desire for a computerized/carbureted car is
simply weird.
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Ilya wrote:
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> When did Chrysler start using computers in its cars?
>
> I am pretty sure that early 80s cars such as Plymouth Gran Fury did not
> have fuel injection and computers. I am interested in cars made right
> before fuel injection components were put in by emissions lunatics because
> they are simple to work on and inexpensive where as I most likely could
> not diagnose computer problems myself.
>
> 318 V8 in 1984 Plymouth Gran Fury with 4 barrel carburator?
>
> Thanks
>
Moshe Berger/auto tech.
1981.
They still use the engine in the Rams and in the Grand cherokee.
In the Grand Fury's they produced only 140Hp.The police package
squeezed out a bit more allowing the police car to do 0-60 in about 10
seconds.The engine now produces 220Hp.in most applications.
Keep in mind that although this engine lasts long it has a few
shortcomings.It doesn't rev very high and has little torque above 4000
Rpms.It's very thirstyMuch more than the 305(Chevy) or
302(Ford)...moshe
Glen Grant
They still use the 318 V8 extensively in their trucks , the non
injected versions made considerably less hp and torque than their modern
brothers do .
hailm...@aol.com
> Also, when did Chrysler stop using its 318 V8 engine
Someone has mis-informed you. The 318ci is alive and kicking strong!
Bill
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Moshe Berger/auto tech. wrote:
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> 1981.
Actually, Chrysler began using analog computers in 1976 with
it's Lean-Burn system. Although the lean-burn units only controlled
spark timing, they still used many of the same components as the
feedback-carb systems of the '80s. Lean-Burn definitly deserves a place
in the history books, along with GM's MISAR systems.
- Craig
JBlessing
In article <334ED4...@ziplink.net>, cke...@ziplink.net says...
Lean Burn (affectionately known as Shake-n-Bake computers) definately
deserve a place...somewhere.....
Jordan Blessing L1 Master Tech
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Vying for second place was the ThermoQuad carburetor (
stalling/bogging not starting/etc ). Once it was "working", the
computer was special, though. It had a interesting spark curve. Just
cruise up to a stop sign, full stop, warm engine, and punch it. Ping,
Ping, Ping. I'm sure they were avoiding lean stumble, or something.
The rest of the cars weren't bad enough to deserve that engine
management duo.
Sat474scr
I was under the impression Lean Burn came in earlier than 1976. It was, as
you said, the first computer control system.