1994 Dodge Caravan dies out without warning...
Charlene Blake
msmalley - NO SPAM wrote:
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> Do you have any idea why our 1994 Dodge Caravan stalls out.
> The car will go days, even weeks without any problems, but then, wham...it
> dies. I put it in nuetral, start it up and away I go again.
>
> It will do it without any apparent reason. Doesn't run rough and gives no
> indication its about to stall. Can be on the highway or on city streets.
> It just dies. Caused trouble because it looses the power steering and
> brakes.
>
> We took it to the dealer in town and they couldn't find anything wrong with
> it. Of course not, it runs fine for weeks inbetween stalling. I'm
> wondering if Chrysler is hiding a defect.
Yep, IMO, there has been an on-going effort to hide the stalling
problem. Claims are that throttle body cleaning will take care of
it...not so....just temporary. I have heard more and more complaints
about stalling since investigating the ABS problem. I wonder how long
owners will put up with it before the band together all their
information. This problem can render a vehicle vulnerable to accident.
I have friends who are battling with the problem constantly in their
minivans.
Charlene Blake
cbl...@erols.com
Wes Grueninger
Charlene Blake wrote in message <343814...@erols.com>...
Rather than jump to unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, I would suggest
that the Auto Shutdown relay and it's wiring be inspected first. I had an
indentical problem on a '89 LeBaron convertible (2.5 turbo/auto) and it
turned out to be a corroded connector on the relay. The connection would
momentarily go bad until it was vibrated again (like the rocking of the
engine when it kills), and it would work fine for a week or two until the
connection crapped out again. The relay box is usually mounted close to the
battery, and we all know nothing corrodes around the battery! :)
Miss Blake, on behalf of us who have actually enjoy our Chrysler vehicles,
please go buy something else, like a Chevy Venture. Please.
Wes Grueninger
1998 Saturn SL2
1992 Dodge Spirit R/T
1971 Plymouth GTX 440-6
msmalley - NO SPAM
Do you have any idea why our 1994 Dodge Caravan stalls out.
The car will go days, even weeks without any problems, but then, wham...it
dies. I put it in nuetral, start it up and away I go again.
It will do it without any apparent reason. Doesn't run rough and gives no
indication its about to stall. Can be on the highway or on city streets.
It just dies. Caused trouble because it looses the power steering and
brakes.
We took it to the dealer in town and they couldn't find anything wrong with
it. Of course not, it runs fine for weeks inbetween stalling. I'm
wondering if Chrysler is hiding a defect.
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nnayar
msmalley - NO SPAM wrote:
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I have had the same problem with my 1994 chrysler minivan.
In my case, the stalling occurs at low speeds.
It has happened several times, and starting it in
neutral (not PARK), seems to take care of it...
but when it stalls, it is a VERY scary experience
because the power steering and the engine die off
suddenly. When my wife experienced it two days ago,
she was petrified, and the kids started screaming in
the van because my wife could not steer the van (she
is small sized and needs the power steering). This happened
three times during the warranty period, but the dealership
said there was nothing wrong with the van.
Should there
be a TRAGIC ACCIDENT before Chrysler does something
about this PROBLEM???
Eugene Nine
Sounds exactly like my problem. Don't even bother with the dealer. I have
paid a lot of money for them to fix things thinking they would at least
warranty something (ata least there time, since they mis-diagnosed it) but
have got nowhere. I bought a repair manual (was told by a mechanic that
the one chryslr sells is better, see the coupon in the owners manual) and
am learning a lot about this vehicle. i have a bunch of ideas to add to
it. We have the LE model with LX interrior, the fully load model (only
thing it doesn't have is rear AC). Am looking for customizing ideas.
Anyone know good sopurces for parts? i have a J.C. Whitney catalog. Are
they any good??
Eugene
Wes Grueninger <wgru...@execpc.com> wrote in article
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> Charlene Blake wrote in message <343814...@erols.com>...
> >msmalley - NO SPAM wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you have any idea why our 1994 Dodge Caravan stalls out.
> >> The car will go days, even weeks without any problems, but then,
> wham...it
> >> dies. I put it in nuetral, start it up and away I go again.
> >>
> >> It will do it without any apparent reason. Doesn't run rough and
gives
> no
> >> indication its about to stall. Can be on the highway or on city
streets.
> >> It just dies. Caused trouble because it looses the power steering and
> >> brakes.
> >>
> >> We took it to the dealer in town and they couldn't find anything wrong
> with
> >> it. Of course not, it runs fine for weeks inbetween stalling. I'm
> >> wondering if Chrysler is hiding a defect.
> >
> >
Eugene Nine
I have been having the same problem with a 92. it is the 3.3l aith the
four speed auto and AWD. We have took it to the dealer and they have
replaced the spark plug wires, fuel pump and cleaned the throttle body. I
changed all the filters and spark plugs. Ours has been getting worse in
that it takes longer each time for it to restart, the last time we had it
towed home and i played with it in the driveway and got it started. I
carry an old spark plug with me and found I was not getting a spark when
this happens. I replaced the coil and went for several months with no
problem. then it died again. My chilton boot has a crank pos sensor test
that it passed. so the only thing left in the spark system is the cam pos
sensor and the computer. i verified that unplugging either sensor will
cause the engine to quit. So i will probably replace the cam sensor first.
Eugene
msmalley - NO SPAM <msma...@alpha.delta.edu> wrote in article
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> Do you have any idea why our 1994 Dodge Caravan stalls out.
> The car will go days, even weeks without any problems, but then,
wham...it
> dies. I put it in nuetral, start it up and away I go again.
>
> It will do it without any apparent reason. Doesn't run rough and gives
no
> indication its about to stall. Can be on the highway or on city streets.
> It just dies. Caused trouble because it looses the power steering and
> brakes.
>
> We took it to the dealer in town and they couldn't find anything wrong
with
> it. Of course not, it runs fine for weeks inbetween stalling. I'm
> wondering if Chrysler is hiding a defect.
>
> Reply via e-mail...
>
>
>
>
Barry Drodge
check the wiring from the Throttle position sensor and make sure it is not
intermittently grounding on the block or some other metal surface.
--
Barry Drodge
Waterloo Ontario Canada'
bdr...@golden.net
NEON TSB Page - http://www.golden.net/~bdrodge/neontsb/tsbmain.htm
Wes Grueninger <wgru...@execpc.com> wrote in article
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> >msmalley - NO SPAM wrote:
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Deepak Sarda
msmalley - NO SPAM (msma...@alpha.delta.edu) wrote:
I have had similar problems with our Dodge Shadow 89, and Dodge Dynasty
88.
Our problem was they would stall for no reason. It did not seem to
matter how long the car was driven for, or the outside temperature. You
would be driving along and it just stalls. You pull over and wait about
5 minutes and it starts up. You don't have any problems after that for
at least a couple of days, or weeks.
We too went years before we actually figured out what it was. It was
suggested by somebody on the internet to change the engine pickup sensor
(located under the distributer cap). We did just that on the Shadow
first, and have not had a problem for at least 3 months. The car is
being driven every day, and it has not given any problems after changing
that sensor. We then changed it on the Dynasty and that car has been
fine ever since.
The sensor on the Dynasty was expensive (about $300 CAD), but the sensor
on the Shadow was cheap ($50 CAD).
Hope it helps.
--
Regards.
Deepak Sarda
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Deepak Sarda email: sa...@ee.ualberta.ca
Eugene Nine
The only problem with that solution is there is no distributer in the
caravan/voyager/t&e engine. it is a DIS system with a coil pack made of
three seperate coils. Although it sounds knida like the same thing I'm
thinking. I beleive it is in one of the sensors, am or crank
Eugene Nine
Deepak Sarda <sa...@ee.ualberta.ca> wrote in article
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In article <01bcd80f$7bf69d40$fe832399@eugene>,
"Eugene Nine" <us...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> The only problem with that solution is there is no distributer in the
> caravan/voyager/t&e engine. it is a DIS system with a coil pack made of
> three seperate coils. Although it sounds knida like the same thing I'm
> thinking. I beleive it is in one of the sensors, am or crank
> Eugene Nine
The Cam and Crank position sensors function in place of the hall-effect
sensor in distributor-equipped engines.
Does ANYONE ever bother to check error codes?? There's no need to always
remain at the mercy of the dealer's incomptetence. Chrysler generously
provided a way for ANYONE to read out error codes on their fuel-injected
cars. Cycle the ignition key on-off-on-off-on <leave on> without actually
starting the engine. After a few moments, the "check engine" light (or
"power loss" light on Turbo cars) will begin flashing out error codes. It
flashes the codes out digit-by-digit:
flash-flash <short pause> flash flash flash <long pause> flash <short
pause> flash flash <long pause>
would mean "code 23, code 12" The last code is always "55" and this will
be the ONLY code if the computer doesn't find a problem. The definition
of the codes appears in the factory service manual for the car (which you
can order using a form in the back of your owner's manual) and in most
Haynes/Chiltons manuals. Or you can post the codes here and someone will
probably be able to tell you what they mean. If you have a failed sensor
(such as the cam pickup), bad coil pack, bad throttle-position sensor,
shorted wiring to the TPS.... ALL these (and more) show up in the
built-in error codes!
This is SO simple and so handy, but I never see it mentioned here. Try
that with any other brand of car but Chrysler... on G(enerally) M(unged)
vehicles you have to crawl under the dash and jumper two connectors
together!
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Light is not on. Could there still be a code in the computer?