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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 26, 2005, 11:57:00 AM3/26/05
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These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders on
our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left lane at
exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.

US 71

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Mar 26, 2005, 12:43:42 PM3/26/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders on
> our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left lane at
> exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.
>

WTF is LLB?


Archibald Q. Leachington

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Mar 26, 2005, 1:40:02 PM3/26/05
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Left Lane Blocker.

"I don't look at myself as a basketball coach;
I look at myself as a leader who happens to coach
basketball."--Coach K.

Rich Piehl

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Mar 26, 2005, 2:47:40 PM3/26/05
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And violate laws like "KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS" and "SLOWER TRAFFIC
KEEP RIGHT"

Not to mention in some states being a LLB is a direct violation of law
and subject to a citation. Are you going to pay for those? Are you
going to pay for the increased insurance costs because someone's rates
go up because they've accumulated a bunch of moving violations by
following your plan? I'll bet not.

And, above all, a true Christian would be courteous. Being a LLB is not
courteous.

And speaking of courtesy...if you're going to try to invoke some
convoluted quasi-religious political action the least you could do would
be to have the respect to capitalize the word "Christian."

Next time use your head before you use your keyboard.

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA

--
Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else.

-attributed to various authors

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 26, 2005, 4:19:47 PM3/26/05
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Hey stupid. Even if you didn't know, you should have figured it out.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Rich Piehl wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders
on
> > our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left
lane at
> > exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.
> >
>
> And violate laws like "KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS" and "SLOWER TRAFFIC

> KEEP RIGHT"
>
> Not to mention in some states being a LLB is a direct violation of
law
> and subject to a citation. Are you going to pay for those? Are you
> going to pay for the increased insurance costs because someone's
rates
> go up because they've accumulated a bunch of moving violations by
> following your plan? I'll bet not.

Hey stupid. Saving lives is NOT against the law.

<PLONK>

Rich Piehl

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Mar 26, 2005, 4:53:37 PM3/26/05
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

>
> Hey stupid.

How to win friends and influence people

Saving lives is NOT against the law.

Never said it was. I said the means by which you propose to do it is.

By your logic blowing up every car in the country, so long as it was
unoccupied, would be just fine.
>
> <PLONK>
>

I seriously doubt that you PLONKED me.

OGT '92

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Mar 26, 2005, 5:04:51 PM3/26/05
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I'm atheist. So that means I can run LLB's off the road.

--

Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing
- Maynard James Keenan

Jack May

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Mar 26, 2005, 5:38:52 PM3/26/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You are increasing the death rate if you do not go with the speed of the
flow of traffic at the time. If the flow of traffic is going over the speed
limit and you go at the speed limit, you will increase the accident and
death rate.

Impeding traffic by going slower in the left lane, is against the law in
California and probably other states.


DTJ

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Mar 26, 2005, 6:32:02 PM3/26/05
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:04:51 -0600, "OGT '92" <watNOS...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>TV's Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
>> These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders on
>> our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left lane at
>> exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.
>
>I'm atheist. So that means I can run LLB's off the road.

I'm a Christian and I do every day. I really don't know what dumbduck
meant when it said christian though.

Paul

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Mar 26, 2005, 8:02:59 PM3/26/05
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:53:37 -0600, Rich Piehl , one of an infinite
number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said the following
in rec.autos.driving...

> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

< "Laura's," crap sent to a hazardous waste facility >

> How to win friends and influence people

< snip >



> By your logic blowing up every car in the country, so long as it was
> unoccupied, would be just fine.

"Laura's," logic is about as twisted as it gets. But then, I wouldn't
expect any better from an idiot who calls itself "Laura Bush murdered her
boyfriend."

> >
> > <PLONK>
> >
>
> I seriously doubt that you PLONKED me.

You made that asshole PLONK you? I'm impressed....

>
> Take care,

Actually, I hope that troll currently known as "Laura Bush murdered her
boyfriend," (a.k.a. "Pride of America," "aunt millie," and "Judy," among
other nyms) dies in a fire, but to each his own, I guess...

> Rich
>
> God bless the USA

Vote Independent.

--


"> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact I got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause I was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, I thought."

Pride of America, 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <3c1753f7.02100...@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Sancho Panza

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Mar 26, 2005, 8:38:54 PM3/26/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > WTF is LLB?

> Hey stupid. Even if you didn't know, you should have figured it out.

Nothing like that warm Christian reaction!

Sancho Panza

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Mar 26, 2005, 8:39:54 PM3/26/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hey stupid. Saving lives is NOT against the law.

And you were appointed the town marshal by who, again?

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 26, 2005, 9:08:38 PM3/26/05
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Jack May wrote:
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message
> news:1111872074.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> You are increasing the death rate if you do not go with the speed of
the
> flow of traffic at the time.

And who's to say what the "speed of the flow of traffic" is, you idiot?

Jack May

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Mar 26, 2005, 9:45:59 PM3/26/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Jack May wrote:

> And who's to say what the "speed of the flow of traffic" is, you idiot?

It means not many people are passing you and you are not passing a lot of
people. This is the normal way people drive and is common knowledge.

The California Highway Patrol consistently gives tickets to people that are
going significantly faster or slower than the other drivers on a part of the
freeway.

You seem to be hung up on following arbitrary rules instead of trying to
drive safely.


Rich Piehl

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Mar 26, 2005, 9:59:21 PM3/26/05
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Paul wrote:

>
>
>>><PLONK>
>>>
>>I seriously doubt that you PLONKED me.
>
>
> You made that asshole PLONK you? I'm impressed....
>
>

Heck, and I wasn't even trying to get plonked. Even a blind squirrel
finds a nut now and then.

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA

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Rich Piehl

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Mar 26, 2005, 10:21:45 PM3/26/05
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2005 08:57:00 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> Block Traffic for Jesus!!
>

I call dibs on the bumper sticker rights!!!!

Jack May

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Mar 26, 2005, 10:22:19 PM3/26/05
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"Scott en Aztlán" <sloth...@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, Aunt Judy is hung up on getting a rise out of people. And
> you walked right into his trap.

Yes I know but couldn't resist. We all have our weaknesses.


US 71

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Mar 27, 2005, 12:36:44 AM3/27/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Stupid? That's a very NON-CHRISTIAN thing to say. Whatever happend to "love
thy neighbor" ?

Jason Pawloski

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Mar 27, 2005, 1:41:16 AM3/27/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111856220.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders on
> our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left lane at
> exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.
>

I used to think you were a pedantic old troll, but this material truly
brings you to the next level. Congratulations. I look forard to watching you
blossom as a great troll in the future.

Jason


me

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Mar 27, 2005, 1:48:18 AM3/27/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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URACRIMINALCODDLER


Sir Lex

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Mar 27, 2005, 2:18:25 AM3/27/05
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Normally I don't reply to foolish posts, but I cannot resist.

Take a look at the graph linked here:
<http://www.safespeed.org.uk/international3.html>

You will see that the USA's motorway/interstate fatality rate is higher
than that of Germany's Autobahns. Many autobahns have no speed limit,
yet driver courtesy is extremely apparent, with the general rule of
thumb being the fastest driver has right of way in the right lane.

Motorways in the UK have a speed limit of 70mph. When I was there 12
months ago, most traffic tended to move at 80 - 85mph, and police only
seemed to be fining those traveling at 100mph or more. I did not see
one driver blocking the inside lane. All drivers who chose to do the
speed limit of 70 or less stuck to the outside lane. In my opinion,
drivers in the UK are the most courteous and relaxed of any country I’ve
visited. You'll notice that the UK has the lowest motorway fatality
rate of the countries listed in that graph.

So to summarise, you are encouraging discourteous behaviour, when the
country with amongst the most courteous drivers in the world has one of
the lowest death rates in the world, despite high speeds being commonplace.

You are encouraging a incredibly frustrating behaviour, when frustration
is one of the primary killers on the roads. You are campaigning for a
55mph speed limit on US Interstates, when 55mph is fast enough to kill
the occupants of a car in an accident, yet in a modern car on a modern
multi-lane motorway, 55mph feels incredibly slow which means drivers
minds will wander from the task at hand.

There is no logic in any of your arguments.

You also spelt "Christian" without a capital letter during the Easter
weekend. When someone runs up the back of you while you're blocking the
left lane at 55mph, you're going straight to hell mate.

Rich Piehl

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Mar 27, 2005, 8:07:23 AM3/27/05
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Paul wrote:
>
> Vote Independent.
>
Forgot to tag this on last night...

Absolutely, I vote independent.

Take care,
Rich

God bless the USA


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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Jack May wrote:
>
> You seem to be hung up on following arbitrary rules instead of trying
to
> drive safely.

HAHAHA. Spoken like a true criminal. And i suppose you think drunk
driving should be legal too because the BAC limits were not handed down
by god. HAHA

<PLONK>

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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<PLONK>

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Sir Lex wrote:
.
>
> You are encouraging a incredibly frustrating behaviour, when
frustration
> is one of the primary killers on the roads. You are campaigning for
a
> 55mph speed limit on US Interstates, when 55mph is fast enough to
kill
> the occupants of a car in an accident, yet in a modern car on a
modern
> multi-lane motorway, 55mph feels incredibly slow which means drivers
> minds will wander from the task at hand.
>

If your mind wanders while driving a car then you shouldn't be on the
roads. America went to 55 in 1974 and immediately saw highway
fatalities drop 9,000 a year. Slower speed limits save lives - that has
been proven.

<PLONK>

Jim Yanik

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Mar 27, 2005, 11:39:42 AM3/27/05
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"Jack May" <jack...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Some people need everything spelled out and quantified so they can march
along in life.They want a law for everything,and in great detail.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jack May

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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Isn't is amazing how some people are never mentally able to become an adult?


Jack May

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Mar 27, 2005, 12:16:39 PM3/27/05
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"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns9626767E7A5...@129.250.170.83...

> Some people need everything spelled out and quantified so they can march
> along in life.They want a law for everything,and in great detail.

Absolutely true. There are a lot of people in society that constantly
believe that thy can solve the problems of a complex society with some
simple rule.

When the complexity of society is pointed out to them and how there simple
rule will lead to disaster, they then still continue coming up with other
simple rules that also fail.

People are a lot smarter than rules. That is why we have judges who bring
an understanding of society to laws pushed by simple minded people that
think only with simple rules .


Jack May

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Mar 27, 2005, 12:20:17 PM3/27/05
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If your mind wanders while driving a car then you shouldn't be on the
> roads. America went to 55 in 1974 and immediately saw highway
> fatalities drop 9,000 a year. Slower speed limits save lives - that has
> been proven.

When 55MPH was replaced with a higher speed limit, we again had a major
drop in fatalities.


Giant Radioactive Easter Bunny

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Mar 27, 2005, 2:21:25 PM3/27/05
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Shut the hell up, you insane troll.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Giant Radioactive Easter Bunny wrote:
> Shut the hell up, you insane troll.

HAHA. You hatefilled loonybirds do make me laugh.

<plonk>

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Translation - "To hell with the laws; i'm gonna do what makes sense."

<plonk>

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Magnulus

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"Jack May" <jack...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> When 55MPH was replaced with a higher speed limit, we again had a major
> drop in fatalities.

Proof correlation does not equal causation. You can't ignore simple
physics which is F=MA, force equals mass times acceleration. Increase the
acceleration, all things being equal, and you increase the force.

Yes, Autobahn's are safer than American highways. But that probably has
nothing to do with the speed limit (or lack of it), and alot to do with the
better driving ability of Europeans (the driving tests are harder), and the
increased safety in most European cars (in the US, it is mostly an
afterthought and our crash tests are a joke... alot of trucks and SUV's
don't even have to meet any crash standards). It's just a fact that a
single-vehicle collisions at 90 mph is going to have more damage than one at
60 mph.

And, if you go to Europe they take speeding much more seriously than in
the US. True, the Autobahn has a reputation for not having speed limits
(which is not entirely true), but everywhere else they crack down on
speeders. And this is true in the rest of Europe, too. Automated speed
cameras are especially popular, and the government runs better campaigns and
programs against speeding. At 4 dollars per gallon for fuel, you have to be
well heeled to be racing down that Autobahn at over 120 miles per hour,
because they are using about double the fuel vs. travelling at 60 mph.


Jack May

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Mar 27, 2005, 6:56:17 PM3/27/05
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"Magnulus" <magn...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jack May" <jack...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:67CdnRPG_q-...@comcast.com...
>> When 55MPH was replaced with a higher speed limit, we again had a major
>> drop in fatalities.
>
> Proof correlation does not equal causation. You can't ignore simple
> physics which is F=MA, force equals mass times acceleration. Increase the
> acceleration, all things being equal, and you increase the force.

F=MA does not even begin to describe the complex interaction of people
driving, people in accidents and the causes of accidents along with the
effects of the many things that go on in an accident to people and their
vehicle.

The facts are that there was a sharp drop in the vehicular death rate at the
same time the speed limits were increased.

rocketman

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Mar 27, 2005, 8:05:32 PM3/27/05
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"Scott en Aztlán" <sloth...@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:7pbe419gfncv7vu9d...@4ax.com...
> On 27 Mar 2005 12:57:25 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>>Jack May wrote:
>>
>>Translation - "To hell with the laws; i'm gonna do what makes sense."
>>
>><plonk>
>
> That's about the third time you've <PLONK>ed Jack May.
>
> Methinks you're a tad unclear on the concept...

More than one computer? Reinstalled OS?

Any number of explanations, none of which reflect badly upon LBMHBF.

R


Big Bill

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Mar 27, 2005, 8:25:57 PM3/27/05
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:36:44 GMT, "US 71" <us...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1111871987.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> US 71 wrote:
>>> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message
>>> news:1111856220.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> > These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders
>> on
>>> > our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left
>> lane at
>>> > exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.
>>> >
>>>
>>> WTF is LLB?
>>
>> Hey stupid. Even if you didn't know, you should have figured it out.
>>
>
>Stupid? That's a very NON-CHRISTIAN thing to say. Whatever happend to "love
>thy neighbor" ?

Judy wants his neighbors put in prison.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

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Sir Lex

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Mar 27, 2005, 9:24:10 PM3/27/05
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

> If your mind wanders while driving a car then you shouldn't be on the
> roads. America went to 55 in 1974 and immediately saw highway
> fatalities drop 9,000 a year. Slower speed limits save lives - that has
> been proven.

I was aware of that. I am also aware of the large decline in fatalities
when the US NSL was increased, then revoked. You did not reply to my
argument at all, simply rambled on with your same simplistic idiotic
logic of "slower is safer".

Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit set by
independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
politically correct speed limit) would result in far less accidents.

> <PLONK>

Oh no, plonked by the group idiot, how will I sleep at night?


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 27, 2005, 10:23:44 PM3/27/05
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2005 12:57:25 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> >Jack May wrote:
> >
> >Translation - "To hell with the laws; i'm gonna do what makes
sense."
> >
> ><plonk>
>
> That's about the third time you've <PLONK>ed Jack May.
>
> Methinks you're a tad unclear on the concept...

I'm just clowning around. The car loons here are always plonking me
but turns out they never really do it.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 27, 2005, 10:29:12 PM3/27/05
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The 55mph was raised slowly and state by state. So there was no major
drop in fatalities. It's not even conceivable, you dolt. OTOH, when
the 55mph was introduced in 1974 it WAS done all at once and
nationally. And the drop in fatalities was immediate. Case closed.

DTJ

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Mar 27, 2005, 11:21:24 PM3/27/05
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:05:32 GMT, "rocketman"
<rock...@bikerider.com> wrote:

>> That's about the third time you've <PLONK>ed Jack May.
>>
>> Methinks you're a tad unclear on the concept...
>
>More than one computer? Reinstalled OS?
>
>Any number of explanations, none of which reflect badly upon LBMHBF.

Here's your sign.

Paul

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Mar 28, 2005, 12:33:32 AM3/28/05
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:21:25 GMT, Giant Radioactive Easter Bunny , one of
an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said
the following in rec.autos.driving...

> Shut the hell up, you insane troll.

Heh.. heh... heh... That's the best Re: to that asshole that I've seen in
quite a while...

Paul

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Mar 28, 2005, 12:34:22 AM3/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:24:10 GMT, Sir Lex , one of an infinite number of
monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said the following in
rec.autos.driving...

> > <PLONK>


>
> Oh no, plonked by the group idiot, how will I sleep at night?

Quite comfortablly, I hope..... ;-)

Paul

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Mar 28, 2005, 12:44:55 AM3/28/05
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:10:28 -0800, Scott en Aztlán , one of an infinite
number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said the following
in rec.autos.driving...

> On 27 Mar 2005 12:57:25 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>
> >Jack May wrote:
> >
> >Translation - "To hell with the laws; i'm gonna do what makes sense."
> >
> ><plonk>
>

> That's about the third time you've <PLONK>ed Jack May.
>
> Methinks you're a tad unclear on the concept...

Methinks that Judy SFB is totally unclear on the concept. Just like it is
totally unclear on *every* concept... ;-)

Paul

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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:05:32 GMT, rocketman , one of an infinite number
of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters said the following in
rec.autos.driving...

>

You're new around here, aren't you? :)

Sorry, I had to ask......

Alan Baker

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Mar 28, 2005, 12:59:32 AM3/28/05
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In article <1111957045....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,

Yeah...

You wouldn't want people doing sensible things, now would you?

LOL

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling 4 feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Magnulus

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Mar 28, 2005, 4:42:13 AM3/28/05
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"Jack May" <jack...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The facts are that there was a sharp drop in the vehicular death rate at
the
> same time the speed limits were increased.

The 55 mph speed limit was repealed around the same time that airbags were
introduced and cars were also becomming structurally somewhat safer, as
well.

What you really need to look for is the accident rate. Does having a
higher speed limit contribute to more accidents, and what percentage of
those accidents are fatal? Plenty of studies have shown that lowering
speed limits leads to fewer fatalities.


Nate Nagel

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Mar 28, 2005, 5:32:48 AM3/28/05
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Magnulus wrote:

Bullshit.

nate


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replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
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rocketman

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Mar 28, 2005, 8:14:34 AM3/28/05
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"Paul" <kr...@tmy.now> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cb164399...@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...

Been on Usenet since 1989. Why do you ask?

R


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Big Bill

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:05:53 AM3/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:05:32 GMT, "rocketman"
<rock...@bikerider.com> wrote:

>> Methinks you're a tad unclear on the concept...
>
>More than one computer? Reinstalled OS?
>
>Any number of explanations, none of which reflect badly upon LBMHBF.

A choice of computers would lock him up.
There's no rule for choosing.

Big Bill

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:08:01 AM3/28/05
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On 27 Mar 2005 08:09:47 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Sancho Panza wrote:
>> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>message
>> news:1111872074.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hey stupid. Saving lives is NOT against the law.
>>
>> And you were appointed the town marshal by who, again?
>
><PLONK>

OK, new day, new word.
What's the new word for today?

Arif Khokar

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Mar 28, 2005, 11:28:52 AM3/28/05
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Magnulus wrote:

> The 55 mph speed limit was repealed around the same time that airbags were
> introduced

The NMSL was repealed in 1998. Airbags had been mandatory for years at
that time.

> What you really need to look for is the accident rate. Does having a
> higher speed limit contribute to more accidents,

No.

> and what percentage of those accidents are fatal?

It varies.

> Plenty of studies have shown that lowering speed limits leads to
> fewer fatalities.

I'm willing to bet you're citing the IIHS. They cherry pick data to
suit their conjecture that higher speed limits lead to more fatalities.
The vast majority of studies show that higher speed limits do not have
any detrimental effect on fatality or crash rates.

The fact is that fatality rates and crash rates continue to decline
despite the fact that the 85th percentile speed on most limited access
highways has been increasing over the last 20 years.

Garth Almgren

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Mar 28, 2005, 12:55:40 PM3/28/05
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Around 3/27/2005 2:09 PM, Scott en Aztlán wrote:

> On 27 Mar 2005 08:08:23 -0800, "Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea) <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz>"
> <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>><PLONK>
>>
>><PLONK>
>>
>><plonk>
>>
>><PLONK>
>
>
> You do realize, don't you, that when you put <PLONK> into your post,
> that's supposed to mean that you have added the poster to your kill
> file?

Which is impossible for him, since Google Groups doesn't have a killfile
yet.

Maybe Judy should switch back to Agent. Then he could really plonk
people, instead of just writing it.


--
~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant."
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Arif Khokar

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Mar 28, 2005, 2:19:02 PM3/28/05
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Magnulus wrote:

> The 55 mph speed limit was repealed around the same time that airbags were
> introduced

The NMSL was repealed in 1998. Airbags had been mandatory for years at
that time.

> What you really need to look for is the accident rate. Does having a


> higher speed limit contribute to more accidents,

No.

> and what percentage of those accidents are fatal?

It varies.

> Plenty of studies have shown that lowering speed limits leads to
> fewer fatalities.

I'm willing to bet you're citing the IIHS. They cherry pick data to

Mot Adv-NSW

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Mar 28, 2005, 9:56:16 PM3/28/05
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"Laura Bush murdered a cockroach" <xeton2001@

> Jack May wrote:
>> "Laura Bush murdered a cockroach" <xeton2001 wrote in
> message..

>> > If your mind wanders while driving a car then you shouldn't be on
> the
>> > roads. America went to 55 in 1974 and immediately saw highway
>> > fatalities drop 9,000 a year. Slower speed limits save lives - that
> has
>> > been proven.

>> When 55MPH was replaced with a higher speed limit, we again had a
> major
>> drop in fatalities.

> The 55mph was raised slowly and state by state. So there was no major
> drop in fatalities. It's not even conceivable, you dolt. OTOH, when
> the 55mph was introduced in 1974 it WAS done all at once and
> nationally. And the drop in fatalities was immediate. Case closed.

With reduced mileage in discretionary travel, and fuel availability etc and
so on, little wonder. But then taking those factors into account, I'd
reckon on an actual statistical increase per capita of the rate!


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:35:56 PM3/28/05
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HAHA. Don't you ever do any research before you start spouting? Go to
this web page and you'll see that from 73 to 74, miles driven dropped
just 2% while highway fatalities dropped 16%. And in 75, fatalities
dropped a little more even though miles driven were now ABOVE the 73
level.!! YOU ARE A TOTAL IDIOT!!!!

http://www.publicpurpose.com/hwy-fatal57+.htm

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:41:43 PM3/28/05
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Magnulus wrote:
> "Jack May" <jack...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MeWdnWi6caG...@comcast.com...
> > The facts are that there was a sharp drop in the vehicular death
rate at
> the
> > same time the speed limits were increased.
>
> The 55 mph speed limit was repealed around the same time that
airbags were
> introduced and cars were also becomming structurally somewhat safer,
as
> well.
>

There was also an added emphasis on getting DUIs off the road. But all
these things happened gradually as did the change to higher speed
limits. It's really impossible to figure out which factors caused
what. That's why the best evidence that speed kills is what happened
in 74 when the 55 mph limit was introduced nationwide and all at once.
And fatalities plumetted.

Big Bill

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:54:33 PM3/28/05
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:28:52 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu>
wrote:

>> The 55 mph speed limit was repealed around the same time that airbags were
>> introduced
>
>The NMSL was repealed in 1998. Airbags had been mandatory for years at
>that time.

1995.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-346es.html
http://www-cgi.cnn.com/US/9511/highway_bill/11-28/
But you were close!

Splatch the T.V. Hedgehog

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Mar 28, 2005, 10:55:47 PM3/28/05
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Die screaming with many electrified gardening tools in your bottom.

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1112067356.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com..

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 29, 2005, 12:06:12 AM3/29/05
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Sir Lex wrote:
>
> Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
> chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
> better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit set
by
> independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
> politically correct speed limit) would result in far less accidents.

Screw driver training and courtesy. The answer is prison terms for
reckless drivers. Stop being a criminal coddler.

<plonked again>

Garth Almgren

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Mar 29, 2005, 12:23:51 AM3/29/05
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Around 3/28/2005 9:06 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
<http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:

> Sir Lex wrote:
>
>>Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
>>chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
>>better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit set by
>>independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
>>politically correct speed limit) would result in far less accidents.
>
>
> Screw driver training


Yeah, if we improved driver training, we might actually improve the
safety of our nation's roads, and who would want that?


(BTW Judy, your new .sig really suits you.)

--
~/Garth
"I am patient with stupidity
but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell
(Mail p...@v6stang.com for secure contact information)

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

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Mar 29, 2005, 1:52:23 AM3/29/05
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Garth Almgren wrote:
> Around 3/28/2005 9:06 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
> <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:
>
> > Sir Lex wrote:
> >
> >>Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
> >>chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
> >>better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit
set by
> >>independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
> >>politically correct speed limit) would result in far less
accidents.
> >
> >
> > Screw driver training
>
>
> Yeah, if we improved driver training, we might actually improve the
> safety of our nation's roads, and who would want that?

Driver training is a joke. People know how to drive, they just don't
because the penalties for bad driving are so light and the media tells
them that reckless driving is cool. I'm tired of coddling these
killers and maimers. LOCK THEM UP.

<plonk>

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Jim Yanik

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Mar 29, 2005, 10:12:26 AM3/29/05
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Garth Almgren <nos...@v6stang.com> wrote in
news:3as733F...@individual.net:

> Around 3/28/2005 9:06 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
><http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:
>
>> Sir Lex wrote:
>>
>>>Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
>>>chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
>>>better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit set by
>>>independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
>>>politically correct speed limit) would result in far less accidents.
>>
>>
>> Screw driver training
>
>
> Yeah, if we improved driver training, we might actually improve the
> safety of our nation's roads, and who would want that?
>
>
> (BTW Judy, your new .sig really suits you.)
>

One would have to require periodic retests(actual road tests) to insure
that drivers did not acquire undesirable driving habits,a single intensive
training likely would not hold for several decades(maybe not even one
decade). Fat chance of that.
Training gives basic skills,and experience completes a driver's skillset.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Arif Khokar

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Mar 29, 2005, 11:19:06 AM3/29/05
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:19:02 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhok...@wvu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Double your pleasure,
> Double your fun,
> Double you postings, everyone!
>
> :)

Only because I keep forgetting that my posts won't go through with my
primary news server. I just hit cancel, and resent with another news
server. If you notice, all those "duplicates" came through at exactly
the same time (2:19 pm yesterday).

I think it has something to do with the fact that I finally ran out of
hard drive space. I really need to get a DVD burner, since these CDR
discs are piling up fast ...

Big Bill

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Mar 29, 2005, 11:29:41 AM3/29/05
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:17:34 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
<sloth...@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:

>URACRIMINALCODDLER!!!!

Nononono.
That's an old one. We need a new one.
How about "school zone"?

Garth Almgren

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Mar 29, 2005, 4:14:34 PM3/29/05
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Around 3/28/2005 10:52 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
<http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:

> Garth Almgren wrote:
>
>>Around 3/28/2005 9:06 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)
>><http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote:
>>
>>>Sir Lex wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nobody can argue that when an accident occours at a lower speed the
>>>>chance of a fatality will be reduced. It also cannot be argued that
>>>>better driver training, better driver courtesy and a speed limit set by
>>>>independent road safety engineers and experts (as opposed to a
>>>>politically correct speed limit) would result in far less accidents.
>>>
>>>Screw driver training
>>
>>
>>Yeah, if we improved driver training, we might actually improve the
>>safety of our nation's roads, and who would want that?
>
>
> Driver training is a joke.

It is currently, yes. Hence my statement "if we improved driver
training, we might actually improve the safety of our nation's roads."

> People know how to drive,

No, they don't; Like other skills, how to drive well is something that
needs to be properly taught, and most people in the US have not had that
experience. They've been taught how to avoid crashing *most* of the
time, but very few people have learned how to really drive.

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Big Bill

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Mar 30, 2005, 10:43:51 AM3/30/05
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:25:38 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
<sloth...@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:

>URACOPTOOTHKICKER!!!!!

There ya go!!

Xeton2001IsAM...@spamgourmet.com

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Mar 30, 2005, 4:12:08 PM3/30/05
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Where you're involved, any kind of training is a joke. You can't teach
a pig to sing.

Xeton2001IsAM...@spamgourmet.com

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Mar 30, 2005, 6:16:34 PM3/30/05
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Considering the sources you've used in the past, you'll pardon me for
questioning the credibility of this resource as well. Further
complicating issues is your inability to read. That's two strikes,
retard.

Xeton2001IsAM...@spamgourmet.com

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Mar 30, 2005, 6:39:22 PM3/30/05
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Be careful, you might arouse LBMHBF. Judy likes sticking things that
require electrical power up it's rear.

Alex Rodriguez

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Mar 31, 2005, 1:09:27 PM3/31/05
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In article <1111856220.2...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
xeto...@yahoo.com says...
>These people are doing their part to slow down the deadly speeders on
>our highways. If you're a true christian, then sit in that left lane at
>exactly the speed limit and help stop the killing and maiming.

Now religion is telling idiots how to drive. No wonder there are so many
on the road. People that need someone else to tell them how to live thier
lives are not taking driving pointers for those same folks. That explains
a lot of stupid driving I see on the road.
-----------------
Alex

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

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Mar 31, 2005, 11:02:19 PM3/31/05
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:09:27 -0500, Alex Rodriguez <ad...@columbia.edu>
wrote:

HAHA. So now traffic laws constitute "telling people how to live"???
URANUTTER

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