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Get a detroit, they're a lot smoother with smaller clicks instead of
clangs, I had a lockrite, never again.
Pat,
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Ok on never another LockRite, but a Detroit Locker for the street???
Pretty rough locker recommendation for street-use, IMHO. Great for
off-road but they can be a major handful on the street in slippery
conditions.
Jerry
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>specop wrote in message <368C53B8...@dialnet.net>...
>>I want to put a Lock Right in my 98 S-10. How do they do on the
>>street and how long will they last. Please e-mail any responses
>>if possible.
>>Thanks, Craig
>>spe...@dialnet.net
I'm on my second Lockright right now. I put about 90,000 Km on my
first one and installed another Lockright when I swapped a D44 axle
under my YJ. My buddy is also running a Lockright in his Comanche's
rear axle. Both our vehicles are daily drivers & commuter vehicles as
well as built offroad rigs. The Lockright (and all auto lockers) is
very noticable but you'll adapt to it after a day or two of driving.
You truck will never drive as well as it does now but OTOH, it'll work
wonderfully offroad. Lockrights don't seem to hold up very well in
Dana 35 axles but I'm pretty sure that's not what you have in your
S10. The bigger the axle, the longer your Lockright will last,
generally speaking. Your S10 probably has a 10-bolt rear end which
should be ok.
BTW, my buddy has a Detroit Softlocker in the front of his Comanche.
He says it's quieter than the Lockright but every now and then, it
sometimes unlocks & locks with a BANG loud enough to make him think he
broke something. :-)
If I had the cash, I'd install a Detroit Softlocker but I didn't so
I've been using Lockrights.
...lars
ARB is the go or a good LSD, the detroit is the better of two evils,
I've driven two vehicles with auto lockers in the front and manual steering
hence they only came into use off road and that was bad enough but the
detroit was the better of the two, if you have manual steer and a lockrite
in the front be very careful who you let behind the wheel as they could get
into serious trouble or just not be strong enough to control it.
Pat, I'm not sure what you were saying about the ARB. ARB is not an
automatic locker like the Detroit Locker is, neither is the ARB a
limited slip. It's an air-pressure powered manual locker, actuated by
the driver via a pushbutton. Maybe that's what you were starting to say
but it wasn't clear.
Hi Craig,
the longer, wider and heavier a vehicle is, the more benign the lock right
becomes. I have one in an F250, and it's just as tame as it was when it had an
open rear end. In a fullsize vehicle, it's pretty much un-noticeable.
We had our first snow fall 2 weeks ago (about 4"), and i took it to a fresh
parking lot, and it was a heck of lot harder to darn impossible for me to
make the truck do a 'doughnut'... with the open rear it was easy to put the
truck into a doughnut. For me, the lock right has improved the winter
traction of the truck tremendously.
If you do buy one, check out Progear in CA. They gave me the best price
($285). http://progear-inc.com
If you have any questions you can email me.
Dave
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>In article <368C53B8...@dialnet.net>,
> specop <spe...@dialnet.net> wrote:
>> I want to put a Lock Right in my 98 S-10. How do they do on the
>> street and how long will they last. Please e-mail any responses
>> if possible.
>> Thanks, Craig
>
>Hi Craig,
>
>the longer, wider and heavier a vehicle is, the more benign the lock right
>becomes. I have one in an F250, and it's just as tame as it was when it had an
>open rear end. In a fullsize vehicle, it's pretty much un-noticeable.
>
>We had our first snow fall 2 weeks ago (about 4"), and i took it to a fresh
>parking lot, and it was a heck of lot harder to darn impossible for me to
>make the truck do a 'doughnut'... with the open rear it was easy to put the
>truck into a doughnut. For me, the lock right has improved the winter
>traction of the truck tremendously.
>
>If you do buy one, check out Progear in CA. They gave me the best price
>($285). http://progear-inc.com
>
>If you have any questions you can email me.
>
>Dave
I am looking at putting a locker in my van eventually, I am glad to
hear "the longer, wider and heavier a vehicle is, the more benign" the
locker but I am a little confused. Spinning both rear wheels ALWAYS
results in MORE tendency to do doughnuts due to the lack of lateral
traction of the both tires spinning. I am guessing that your point is
it is much harder to get the rear spinning now?
Steve Best, Nova Scotia,
4x4 van website:
http://www.glinx.com/users/sbest
Shane Simard - BC, Canada
http://persweb.direct.ca/ssimard/
1992 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 3.0L V-6, 5 speed, 31" BFG M/T's,
19" rear wheel travel, and finally a Lock Right Locker.
> I am looking at putting a locker in my van eventually, I am glad to
> hear "the longer, wider and heavier a vehicle is, the more benign" the
> locker
Having an automatic transmission is another thing that makes the lock right
less noticeable.
> but I am a little confused. Spinning both rear wheels ALWAYS
> results in MORE tendency to do doughnuts due to the lack of lateral
> traction of the both tires spinning.
You can get the rear end of the truck to kick out if you jam the gas pedal
down from a stop on a slippery surface, in that scenario you are spinning
both tires (no kidding ;o). Once you let up on the gas, the truck straightens
right out.
> I am guessing that your point is it is much harder to get the rear spinning
> now?
When i went to the parking lot, the tires were not breaking loose (and i was
giving it a good amount of gas when going into the turns), they were just
digging in and the truck was going where ever i steered it. Going straight i
was able to take off from a stop with a good amount of gas (but not to the
floor) and the truck just went, no spinning tires. If you drive like a normal
person and pay attention when the street is slippery, the locker equipped
vehicle will go where you want it to without any problems.
I haven't experienced any problems on slippery stuff yet, but I do notice a
decidely strong urge to go to the low side of the trail. I truely enjoy my
lockers (Detroits in back and Lock Rights up front) but they do require
constant attention while driving. A small price to pay for the off roading
benefits.
I suppose that an automatic transmission may help to smooth things out a
little, but I know from experience that parking space entries are very
interesting with a manual tranny.
I am not meaning to discourage buying lockers, but be aware that everything
you have learned about driving is about to change. It is not necessarily
bad, but it will be different.
Jeff
Jerry Bransford wrote in message <368F0661...@home.com>...
>Mangey wrote:
>>
>> specop wrote in message <368C53B8...@dialnet.net>...
>> >I want to put a Lock Right in my 98 S-10. How do they do on the
>> >street and how long will they last. Please e-mail any responses
>> >if possible.
>> >Thanks, Craig
>> >spe...@dialnet.net
>>
>> Get a detroit, they're a lot smoother with smaller clicks instead of
>> clangs, I had a lockrite, never again.
>
>Ok on never another LockRite, but a Detroit Locker for the street???
>Pretty rough locker recommendation for street-use, IMHO. Great for
>off-road but they can be a major handful on the street in slippery
>conditions.
>