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mike...@my-dejanews.com

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
about this flammability/toxicity issue??

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Harry Brosofsky

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Mike,

Your dealer is an idiot. Rhino is NOT toxic in any way once sprayed
onto the vehicle and cured. As for flamability, it is likely to be less
flamable that a drop in liner. Sounds to me like he just wants to sell
you a marked up drop in liner.

Later,

Harry

mike...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
> getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
> The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
> and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
> look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
> about this flammability/toxicity issue??

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mike...@my-dejanews.com

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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In article <36F6745B...@harryworld.com>,

Harry Brosofsky <ha...@harryworld.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Your dealer is an idiot. Rhino is NOT toxic in any way once sprayed
> onto the vehicle and cured. As for flamability, it is likely to be less
> flamable that a drop in liner. Sounds to me like he just wants to sell
> you a marked up drop in liner.
>
> Later,
>
> Harry
>
> mike...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >

Thats what I thought!


> > I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
> > getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
> > The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
> > and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
> > look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
> > about this flammability/toxicity issue??
>
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>

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Clint Olsen

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:32:12 GMT, mike...@my-dejanews.com
<mike...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
>getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed
>in. The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly
>flammable and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen
>that have them look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has
>anyone else heard about this flammability/toxicity issue??

I have a spray-in liner (not Rhino), and I'm very impressed with it so far.
Unless you're planning on having bonfires in the bed of your pickup, I find
it difficult to understand how it could become toxic. By his reasoning, I
should get rid of the wood bed! :)

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Paul DeSmet

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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I'm not sure about Rhino but LINE-X uses no VOCs or CFCs and uses no
solvents. In fact it's approved by the USDA for use in food preparation.
Bottom line is that toxins are not an issue. I haven't reviewed the
Material Safety Data Sheets but I'd doubt a spray-in is any more or less
flammable than a drop in. I think the dealer was somewhat mis-informed.
More info at http://www.line-x.com
Paul


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>I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
>getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
>The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
>and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
>look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
>about this flammability/toxicity issue??
>

HOG FVR

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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"RHINO Linings" is a self extinguishing product, uses no
solvents in the process...

I'm having my truck done...

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Chris walker

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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The Rhino Liner compound is most likely very flamible and toxic --while
it's curing, as is any paint or other sprayed on chemical. Also, after it
is dry, I doubt you plan on eating it and it won't burst into flames
without serious provication -- just like the rest of the vehicle. I say
do it... The results look awsome, and it works a hell of a lot better
than a molded bed liner. Be sure to find a reputable shop to install it
though... they're not hard to screw up.

Dmwil

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Mar 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/25/99
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>On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 mike...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>> I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
>> getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
>> The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
>> and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
>> look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
>> about this flammability/toxicity issue??
>>

Do it. I have it in mine and I love it. It is not a fire hazard. That's a
bunch of bunk.

DMWIL
93 YJ 2.5
99 Silverado Z-71


Paul DeSmet

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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Mike,
FYI - LINE-X has recently been approved by the National Sanitation
Department for use in Potable (i.e. drinking) water systems. So along with
the FDA approval for use with food systems you could eat or drink out of the
back of your truck. Not not sure if I'd recommend that though. Mike be
nice for a tailgate party though. More info at http://www.line-x.com
Paul

mike...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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>I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
>getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
>The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
>and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
>look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
>about this flammability/toxicity issue??
>

DbackFan

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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In article <7d5rac$qap$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dated Mon, 22 Mar 1999
16:32:12 GMT, mike...@my-dejanews.com spews...

> I just picked up my new Silverado LT last Thur. I have been looking into
> getting a bedliner and was thinking about getting a Rhino Liner sprayed in.
> The dealer that sold me the truck told me those liners are highly flammable
> and toxic and that I shouldn't use one. The trucks I've seen that have them
> look really nice though so I kinda wanted to get one. Has anyone else heard
> about this flammability/toxicity issue??
>
Your dealer is a moron. It probably is toxic if you eat it. I'll tell you
this, they're a lot safer than plastic liners if you carry plastic gas
cans. Static electricity and gas don't mix. You should never fill a gas
can while it is in the bed of a truck anyway.

I have a Rhino and love it. It looks much better than any molded plastic
liner and will out last a plastic liner.

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Handgunner

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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I just finished installing a Durabak do-it-yourself paint-in bedliner
and can honestly say that it's the best thing since peanutbutter!!!

It's easy, looks great and it's the same stuff as Rhino for $99 a gallon
vs. over $400 for the 'over the rail' job I did myself! It even has
ground-up tires in it for grit and extra protection.

It's great!

My two cents,

Handgunner

Scott Tate

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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You are right. My jeep has line-x, rhino, and duraback in it. And you know
what, the durabak is just as good as both for 1/5 of the price. It even
comes in all colors. I think it rocks. All you gotta do is call Jake at
Durabak(the president) and tell him Scott from Maryland sent you and he'll
hook you right up!
Scott

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Handgunner

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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I appreciate the math lesson, Paul, but let's face some facts.

One, Durabak is easy to install and I can do it myself for less than
$125 vs. $400+ for an 'over the rail' job by your guys up here in the
North Dallas area and I can do it in just under three hours total.
Second, Durabak has ground up, recycled tires in it for 'grit' that, if
you really want to figure it out, would increase the thickness of the
finished product (not to mention the 'tree-hugger factor!). Third, I
can put this stuff on as thick or thin as I feel necessary....there's
always more to add if I want and even if I do order three gallons, I'm
still under your price. Fourth, if this liner ever needs repair, I
take out a brush, open the spare quart I purchased, and fix it right
then and there....no hassle, no wait, NO CHARGE. Sixth, I can order
Durabak in just about any color I would ever need. What color can I
get Line-X in, eh?

I don't mean to defame your product, I just strongly feel that Durabak
is superior.

Regards,

Handgunner


Paul DeSmet wrote:
>
> Let's do some math! I measured my 6.5 foot bed truck. It's 21 inches deep,
> 64 inches wide and 78 inches long. So the surface area of the bottom is 64
> X 78 or 4992 square inches. The side are each 21 X 78 or 1638 square inches
> for a total of 3276 square inches. The front and tail gate are each 21 X 64
> or 1344 inches for a total of 2688 square inches. Now if we add all that up
> it's a total of 4992 + 3276 + 2688 or 10956 square inches. Now since you
> are using one gallon of the product mentioned below that would be a total of
> 231.18 cubic inches since one gallon takes up 231.18 square inches. Take
> 231.18 divided by 10956 you can figure out how thickness of the application
> which is 0.021100 inches. That's just over 2 hundreths thick. That's not
> even a 32nd of an inch. Typical line-x application is 1/8 to 1/4 inch
> thick (i.e. well over 5 times as thick.) Better order about 3 to 4 gallons
> minimum of Durabak to get the same protection.
>
> Paul,
> http://www.line-x.com
>

Paul DeSmet

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Let's do some math! I measured my 6.5 foot bed truck. It's 21 inches deep,
64 inches wide and 78 inches long. So the surface area of the bottom is 64
X 78 or 4992 square inches. The side are each 21 X 78 or 1638 square inches
for a total of 3276 square inches. The front and tail gate are each 21 X 64
or 1344 inches for a total of 2688 square inches. Now if we add all that up
it's a total of 4992 + 3276 + 2688 or 10956 square inches. Now since you
are using one gallon of the product mentioned below that would be a total of
231.18 cubic inches since one gallon takes up 231.18 square inches. Take
231.18 divided by 10956 you can figure out how thickness of the application
which is 0.021100 inches. That's just over 2 hundreths thick. That's not
even a 32nd of an inch. Typical line-x application is 1/8 to 1/4 inch
thick (i.e. well over 5 times as thick.) Better order about 3 to 4 gallons
minimum of Durabak to get the same protection.

Paul,
http://www.line-x.com

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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Paul,

I do believe that a gallon contains 231 CUBIC inches

Capt. Ed

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Paul DeSmet

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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I apologize. I got a little in a hurry..but 1 gallon does equal 231.18
cubic inches so you get the same answer.
Paul

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Ed Wilson

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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After doing a search I can't find any durabak dealers. Are there any in
Alaska? The pacific NW?

Paul DeSmet

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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I double checked the math and it still doesn't seem to add up (i.e. what you
are getting). Also that gallon contains 2.9 pounds of VOCs (according to
their website) which are (according to http://www.flec.com/) "are either
known, or are suspected to be allergic, carcinogenic, neurotoxic,
immunotoxic or irritant." Neither LINE-X nor Rhino contain VOCs. Yes,
LINE-X is available in colors.

Paul

Scott Tate

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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Ok, sorry, I calculated wrong. By the way, I'm talking about doing the inside
of a jeep(for the most part), not a 8 1/2 foot friggin truck bed. I guess three
gallons would suffice. Don't get worked up pardner, I have line-x in the jeep
and I love it. I just don't want to pay 700 dollars to have someone spray it
in. I'm going to do my truck bed in my chevy truck, and I'll be happy to post
the details on how much material it uses. By the way, line-x is 1000 times
better than Rhino, the texture of Rhino looks really bubbly, while line-x has a
very smooth, flatter texture. Don't take my message the wrong way, I'm not bad
mouthing line-x, shoot, I've sent Ben Price(Mid-atlantic line-x in Glen Burnie,
Md) a few customers. Cheers.
scott

Paul DeSmet wrote:

> Let's do some math! I measured my 6.5 foot bed truck. It's 21 inches deep,
> 64 inches wide and 78 inches long. So the surface area of the bottom is 64
> X 78 or 4992 square inches. The side are each 21 X 78 or 1638 square inches
> for a total of 3276 square inches. The front and tail gate are each 21 X 64
>
> >

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Apr 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/6/99
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I'll disagree about the Line-X vs Rhino surface look... side by side, I see
absolutely
no difference in them. Might have something to do with the person doing the
application, and mixing of the product, I would suspect. And "1000 times" ???
Isn't that just a wee bit of an exaggeration!

The cost here in Boise, to do the bed of my F150, short bed (6 1/2 ft) was,
$449.
That's for the base price and standard color (black) price. ($399 + $50) If you
want
to have a custom color mixed it was $150 + the $399. That's for the Rhino, but
the Line-X has the same price range.

I saw a Toyota land cruiser completely sprayed with the Rhino coating at a car
show
here, looked OK!!

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Scott Tate wrote in message <370A17CF...@lmco.com>...
:Ok, sorry, I calculated wrong. By the way, I'm talking about doing the inside

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