Real 4x4: Transfer Case for a CRV
MellowYellow
Anyone know how much?
James Henry
If I were to go with an aftermarket t-case, I would do an Atlas II.. Those
are about $2800 for parts only. You can pick up a real 4x4 (like a K5
blazer, etc) for not much more.
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Chris Phillipo
MellowYellow wrote:
> I wanna put a real transfer case in my CRV.
> Anyone know how much?
You'll probably have to replace the rear end if you do that, take a look
at that match sticks powering the rear end.
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k t
not to mention a hundred other things that would have to be
changed........
KEVIN
k t
did above. If you had any knowledge of what you are talking about, you
would have told him "ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE A TRANSFER CASE IN A CRV<
BECAUSE OF ITS ENGINE LAYOUT ETC" not your silly..."look at the
matchsticks" comment. You are sounding like a 13 year old by just
making silly comments to a serious question
KEvin
Chris Phillipo
k t wrote:
It's been done, dumbass. There's nothing that can't be. By the way, I
work at a Honda dealer.
k t
details of it???.....Im sure everyone would love to hear your story
about how the job was done. Tell us about it Obviously you must know
something about it. You work at a HONDA dealer?.....Does that mean you
installed a transfer case in a CRV??
Byron Goodman
Have you considered getting a real 4x4 instead?
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Jerry Bransford
t-case locked into 4Low, I'm not exaggerating when I say I'd be
seriously worried about the axles being able to withstand the added
torque they would experience.
Jerry
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Chris Phillipo
k t wrote:
I told him why not to do it dumbass, why would I then go on and explain how
he can do it?
Chris Phillipo
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Another big concern are those tiny axle shafts the CRV has... with a
> t-case locked into 4Low, I'm not exaggerating when I say I'd be
> seriously worried about the axles being able to withstand the added
> torque they would experience.
>
> Jerry
You should be seriously worried about them withstanding the torque they
get now in stock form :-) My ride on lawn mower uses beefier hardware.
Jerry Bransford
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Another big concern are those tiny axle shafts the CRV has... with a
> > t-case locked into 4Low, I'm not exaggerating when I say I'd be
> > seriously worried about the axles being able to withstand the added
> > torque they would experience.
> >
> > Jerry
>
> You should be seriously worried about them withstanding the torque they
> get now in stock form :-) My ride on lawn mower uses beefier hardware.
But unlike the CRV, your ride-on lawn more was actually designed to go
offroad heh heh!
Jerry
Jerry Bransford
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Another big concern are those tiny axle shafts the CRV has... with a
> > t-case locked into 4Low, I'm not exaggerating when I say I'd be
> > seriously worried about the axles being able to withstand the added
> > torque they would experience.
> >
> > Jerry
>
> You should be seriously worried about them withstanding the torque they
> get now in stock form :-) My ride on lawn mower uses beefier hardware.
But unlike the CRV, your ride-on lawn mower was actually designed to go
offroad heh heh!
Jerry
Brandon & Charis
could hold more power than the rest of the vehicle. Honda has ALWAYS over
built. Until you pull the shaft and find out what its made out of I'd quit
with the jokes about them. Yes they are funny looking but they do the job
they were designed for. An example is Top Fuel Funny cars. The "drive shaft"
in the mid 90s cars were only 2" in dia. Oh yeah they also handled 5000 HP!
That shaft also goes within inches of the bottom of the drivers seat. I
don't know what they are made out of but that's allot of power in a funny
looking shaft.
From somebody that just finished a swap on a small Jap truck. DONT EVEN
THINK ABOUT THE CRV FOR FOUR WHEELING. Go buy a Jeep. Or something already
built for off road. The CRV is like a Subaru nice when it snows so you can
get to work or go to the store.
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Jerry Bransford
meant to be an offroad machine. It's a "cute-ute". It may have
"adequate" driveshafts for the street but no experienced offroader is
going to take them seriously so there's an appropriate phrase here...
it's like shouting into the wind to defend the CRV's scrawny chicken-leg
axleshafts.
Jerry
Chris Phillipo
Brandon & Charis wrote:
> For those of you concerned about the CRV axle shafts I,m willing to bet they
> could hold more power than the rest of the vehicle. Honda has ALWAYS over
> built. Until you pull the shaft and find out what its made out of I'd quit
> with the jokes about them. Yes they are funny looking but they do the job
> they were designed for. An example is Top Fuel Funny cars. The "drive shaft"
> in the mid 90s cars were only 2" in dia. Oh yeah they also handled 5000 HP!
> That shaft also goes within inches of the bottom of the drivers seat. I
> don't know what they are made out of but that's allot of power in a funny
> looking shaft.
That job being only taking 20% or less of the power that the front end does. I
have seen them bent but not from drive line stress, just being bent by heavy
snow or obstacles that the owner slammed into. People just love to take a run
at that snow bank at the end of the driveway in reverse rather than shovel it.
Afterall, what did they buy this "big bad" 4x4 for anyway if they still need to
shovel the driveway?
k t
GEAR, hence it doenst need large axle shafts. Are some guys in here
misunderstanding about the axles?? It isnt a solid axle its just a
rotating shaft. LIke Ive said before countless times...(LOL) Youve got
a vehicle (CRV) with about 130 lb /ft of torque, no low range. Actually
the axle "shafts" are over engineered. Trust me, my wife owns a CRV and
I have owned many JEEPS including Cherokees<Whanglers,CJ-5,old full size
cherokees, even military versions of jeeps. GIven the torque
multiplication of a larger heavier vehicle and gearing (2.78/1) transfer
case and usually a much higher GROSS WEIGHT, and the fact that "MOST"
trucks are REAR drive normally. In the end most trucks and REAL 4x4s
actually have weaker shafts ONLY IF YOU ARE COMPARING THE AMOUNT OF
TORQUE APPLIED TO THEM COMPARED TO THE RATED STRENGTH OF THE SHAFT. Its
simple physics, not a "hey mine is better argument". Simply multiply
your engine torque times all gearing multiplication and youve got your
amount of torque at the axle shaft. There is almost no way I could snap
the shaft on my wifes CRV, there just isnt the torque there to do it.
But on the other hand ive snapped axles on a CJ-5 a FULL SIZE cherokee
and of all things, on a front drive turbo DODGE OMNI GLH. None of these
vehicles were WEAK, just too much gearing and an unmoveable object. (
Anything can be broken with the "right"driver and right situation )
KEvin
skp3
capable) xfer case in a crv....the axles are not / were not built for the
amount of torque that would then be applied to them....they would probably
end up breaking. Anytime you modify any vehicle you have to evaluate the
affect on the stock parts you leave installed. I would not want to be
off-road in a crv with a dual range xfer case with stock axles installed in
it.
Sean
99TJ
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Chris Phillipo
k t wrote:
> HEY the crv axle is designed right. It has NO LOW RANGE OR CREEPER
> GEAR, hence it doenst need large axle shafts. Are some guys in here
> misunderstanding about the axles?? It isnt a solid axle its just a
> rotating shaft. LIke Ive said before countless times...(LOL) Youve got
> a vehicle (CRV) with about 130 lb /ft of torque, no low range. Actually
> the axle "shafts" are over engineered. Trust me, my wife owns a CRV and
We know, you seem to be missing the fact that we are talking about what
would happen if you put low range gears in it.
Erik
MellowYellow has got to be laughing at the arguments generated by this
stupid question.
Benjamin Lee
to the rear wheels. There is a limit on how much torque it can transmit. The
viscous coupling is like a torque converter. So in low range when the speed
difference in the coupling is low, there is very little torque being
transmitted to the rear. It actually may be ok after all. Question is how do
you put a transfer case in a one piece transaxel/engine package.
Ben
Darryl
that transfer the torque from the drive axle to the rear wheels. They are
actuated by a hydraulic system that consists of two pumps, one driven by the
drive shaft (speed = front wheels) and the other by the rear wheels. Each
pump feeds the other in a closed loop. Relative pressure from one side of
the loop to the other caused by different speeds (wheel slip) is used to
actuate the clutch plates. The plates transfer the torque. This is different
than a viscous coupling that uses liquid viscosity to transfer torque.
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i.e. Ford , Chevy, etc.
for doing this to the CRV??
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Jerry Bransford
offroader than could be fixed by the addition of a true transfer case...
which wouldn't be anything but a difficult mod to get working properly
anyway.
Jerry
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Chris Phillipo
MellowYellow wrote:
> What would be an appropriate Transfer Case Yr/Model/Make,
> i.e. Ford , Chevy, etc.
> for doing this to the CRV??
Just forget about it. You can make it into a part time 4wd somewhat easily,
this would be a big improvement but to get a low range transfer case in there is
a job on the order of turning the General Lee into a monster truck.
H. Paul Jacobson
> What would be an appropriate Transfer Case Yr/Model/Make,
> i.e. Ford , Chevy, etc.
> for doing this to the CRV??
Trade it in for a Kia Sportage. Considering the relative resale values,
you might even get a newer Kia in the process (but no necessarily one with
fewer problems).
Paul