ROTEL = Made in Taiwan
Richard Chung
I just cant believe that my new Rotel Amplifier is made in TAIWAN!!
argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy listening,
Richard
Brian Chojnowski
>argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Happy listening,
>Richard
Thats why you didnt pay twice as much for it. I believe that they are only
manufactured there. The designwork is not taiwaneese. As far as im
concerned though, why judge its performance by who made it.
Paul A. Lane
Check out an Acurus ad for a list of companies that manufacture
overseas. To my knowledge, B&K is homegrown
Paul
Scott Fisher
>Richard
What matters is the quality of design, components and construction. Don't
you think Rotel are capable of setting up a manufacturing plant in Taiwan
of the same quality as the plants in Japan? Is there something mystical
about the Earths gravity or magnetic field around Japan?
I take it that you got a Rotel amp because of the price/performance ratio
which is high. It comes with a 5 year warrantee, that should give you
some idea of the faith Rotel have in their product.
I have been using Rotel gear for 4 years now and had 6 different components
from them, amps, pre/power, CD playes, tuners. My mother-in-law has a
rotel tuner, CD player and speakers (made in UK) that are about 6 years
old now. All have performed flawlessly, all have represented very good value
for money and the manufacturing quality has been up there with the best at this
price point I have seen.
Scott.
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Youngjoon Kwon 926-2761
Of course, I won't judge a component's performance by who made it...
BUT, I kind of feel that there is some correlation between the build
quality and where it is made (assembled?). For me, the solid build-quality
is almost as important as the sonic performance. In the end, what is the
use of a good sound when the component breaks down after a week?
-Youngjoon
PS: What is the build quality of ROTEL compared to, say, ADCOM, B&K or
Acurus?
Richard Chung
> HOR...@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (Richard Chung) writes:
>
> >I just cant believe that my new Rotel Amplifier is made in TAIWAN!!
> >argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Happy listening,
>
> >Richard
>
> What matters is the quality of design, components and construction. Don't
> you think Rotel are capable of setting up a manufacturing plant in Taiwan
> of the same quality as the plants in Japan? Is there something mystical
> about the Earths gravity or magnetic field around Japan?
>
> I take it that you got a Rotel amp because of the price/performance ratio
> which is high. It comes with a 5 year warrantee, that should give you
> some idea of the faith Rotel have in their product.
>
> I have been using Rotel gear for 4 years now and had 6 different components
> from them, amps, pre/power, CD playes, tuners. My mother-in-law has a
> rotel tuner, CD player and speakers (made in UK) that are about 6 years
> old now. All have performed flawlessly, all have represented very good value
> for money and the manufacturing quality has been up there with the best at this
> price point I have seen.
>
hi,
The reason why I posted this was because I felt I was mislead by their
slogans "Designed in Britain enjoyed worldwide" "UK designed." I guess it
really doesnt matter where is it made, what matters is the sound quality,
construction, etc
I picked this amp (RB960X) over the adcom 535II, because it has a
warmer sound and less edgy on the highs, which what UK amps are best known
for. My dealer was nice enough to show me the dealer cost, which was $240, and
I got it for $290 ($370 list), so I am not complaining at all. I highly
recommend this nice little amp, and in the under $400 price range, this amp
is the only choice! *IMOO*
Happy listening,
Richard
Richard Chung
> >
> >>argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >>Happy listening,
> >
> >>Richard
> >
> >Thats why you didnt pay twice as much for it. I believe that they are only
> >manufactured there. The designwork is not taiwaneese. As far as im
> >concerned though, why judge its performance by who made it.
>
> Of course, I won't judge a component's performance by who made it...
> BUT, I kind of feel that there is some correlation between the build
> quality and where it is made (assembled?). For me, the solid build-quality
> is almost as important as the sonic performance. In the end, what is the
> use of a good sound when the component breaks down after a week?
>
> -Youngjoon
>
> PS: What is the build quality of ROTEL compared to, say, ADCOM, B&K or
> Acurus?
well, my Rotel RB960BX is build like a tank, and one pound heavier
than the Adcom 535II, and believe it or not, I have never seen any B&K
components in any of the audio shops that I have visited. Acurus stuff are
nice too, but they were out of my price range.
Happy listening,
Richard
Troy Cauble
: I take it that you got a Rotel amp because of the price/performance ratio
: which is high. It comes with a 5 year warrantee, that should give you
: some idea of the faith Rotel have in their product.
I think you mean the performance/price ratio is high. Then again you
are upside down :)
-troy
: Scott.
Jay S. Adelson
>-Youngjoon
> Acurus? ^^^^^
Although ADCOM *is* an American company, ADCOM components are no longer
manufactured in New Jersey, but overseas, I believe in Taiwan.
Still, most owners of ADCOM components have units that were built here in
the states. If you open them up, there is no difference at all... the design
specifics are identical. As for the solid build quality, I hate to say it,
but that certainly isn't any different either, in fact, often it is better
when it is built overseas. I'm just upset because it's that many more
American jobs that are lost to foreign economies, but that's a whole other
discussion.
I can't say anything about B&K or Acurus. If one of them started putting
machines together in Taiwan, I doubt the quality would suffer at all, though
it might hurt our pride a little bit.
-Jay
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Paul A. Lane
>I can't say anything about B&K or Acurus. If one of them started putting
>machines together in Taiwan, I doubt the quality would suffer at all, though
>it might hurt our pride a little bit.
I doubt Acurus will. Their name is short for ACURracy made in the US.
When products of equivalent value are available, I'll pick an American
made product. I would consider B&K as good a value as any.
Paul
lenahan,grant f
> manufactured in New Jersey, but overseas, I believe in Taiwan.
>
> Still, most owners of ADCOM components have units that were built here in
> the states.
I beleive the last units that were built in NJ were the GFA-1, GFA-2, GFP-1
series, not the 5xx series that outsell them 10:1. Maybe the earliest runs,
but the vast majority of Adcom products that people know, were built
overseas.
I see no reason why they should be inferior, either. For $500, and in
small quantities (even Adcom is small quantities in the realm of
manufacturing efficiencies), the low labor costs overseas help you
afford quality parts. So there may be some advantage at that price
level.
Grant
lenahan,grant f
I know the circuit boards, assembly, wave soldering, and initial QC
have been done overseas for the Adcom 5xx series. Earlier units may
have been assembled here. Seems irrelevant.
Grant
Bob Myers
> BUT, I kind of feel that there is some correlation between the build
> quality and where it is made (assembled?). For me, the solid build-quality
> is almost as important as the sonic performance. In the end, what is the
> use of a good sound when the component breaks down after a week?
I agree that "build quality" is important, but there is no reason to believe
that just because a given product is manufactured in one country, it must
automatically be inferior in this regard to a different product from someplace
else. I have toured and evaluated manufacturing facilities all over the
Far East; I have seen questionable practices in Japan and quite excellent
manufacturing elsewhere, and vice-versa. What matters is a given
manufacturer's attitudes toward quality and process control; get that right,
and you can make an excellent production line ANYWHERE. Similarly, get it
*wrong*, and just being in (Japan/Germany/Lower Slobovia/<insert your
choice for "manufacturing site of the decade" here>) WILL NOT save you.
Bob Myers KC0EW Hewlett-Packard Co. |Opinions expressed here are not
Systems Technology Div. |those of my employer or any other
my...@fc.hp.com Fort Collins, Colorado |sentient life-form on this planet.