> Edward Morris;952785 Wrote:>
> > Patrick, get off your disdain of God. You have no business spouting
> > your
> > beliefs or non-beliefs in this newsgroup. I'm not on here constantly
> > giving
> > a dissertation on God or the lack thereof and you shouldn't either.
>
> > Eddie
Dearest Eddie,
Because you got so pissed off with me saying that I held belief in God
in disdain, here is some more....
I don't disbelieve that there is a God. What I do not believe in is
the Bible description of God and the descriptions in given in ALL
religious texts, Christian or otherwise. The scriptural writings about
God are all fairy tales dreamed up by exaltant Bull Shitters of the
past and I have the right to say such blasphemy as often and as loud
as I wish. One reason is that some of the very worst crimes against
humanity and hugh-womanity have been and continue to be committed by
very serious believers in a variety of conflicting religious beliefs.
Nobody knows God. There is no heavenly manual that you can download
from godstuff.heaven.universe, The God so cherished so seriously by
so many is just as bad as the Golden Calf or any other made up idol or
concept.
But it is extremely obvious to me some Higher Power than we could ever
describe accurately must exist.
But rather than type out out an original chapter and verse about The
meaning Of Life Etc, to Eddie, I'll quote myself from *part* what I
sent to an old customer who asked me how I was......
""" A human merely borrows a pile of atoms, arranged as YOU, and
sooner or later the borrowing ceases, and our atoms are released from
the grip of life. The process is Majestically Natural, and a wonder to
contemplate.
My thoughts have not been so clear about terminality, and the
knowledge that there is no knowable God or other entity we must answer
to. Some infinitely larger entity probably exists, but it ain't some
old giza with a long white beard who counts our sins, and hands out
lolly type life experiences because you followed Christ or the Budha
or Mohommad et all.
We hardly understand the Universe, and we don't seem to have any
reason why it or ourselves exist, and infinite knowledge can't fit
into our finite brains which are only marginally more complex than an
average monkey. Despite Religion, a huge number of questions remain un-
answered. I don't care much that despite what I do know, I'll die
dumb, just knowing the un-knowable is Mighty, and Grand. All that
really matters is that we are useful while life allows, and kind and
yet firm and fair, and gracefully impose ourselves on others, and with
good humour. So I'm nice to my doctors, and I don't want to disturb
their fascination and wonderment that propels them in their daily
lives to betterment of people around them.
Consider the universe for a moment.
Its a big place, but perhaps just a tiny speck amoung trillions of
other universes that we could not observe or measure. Now the speed of
light is 300,000 km/sec, and brainy old Einstein said this speed
cannot be exceeded by anyone or anything at any time.
Well, the Pope and other ppl who believe in God want us to believe in
an all-knowing God, who cares for us.
Well let's imagine there was a God who did know all, and did monitor
every atom's life. One could assume then that God's knowledge of
Himself would be complete, and that H'ed know all about His universe
plus all other universes - Right NOW.
If a flea bits a dog on its tail, the dog needs to chew his tail to
relieve the itch, and so knowledge speed and reaction time matter.
This means that communications across billions of universes would need
to be instant, or take no time, so information has to travel at speeds
infinately faster than the speed of light.
Blokes in Science reckon light takes 13 billion years just to cross
out Universe at 300,000km/sec, so that speed of light is far to slow
to be of any use to a Real Fair Dinkum God. See how difficult
existance is to contemplate?
And is the Universe owned by God? Why would it be "His"? maybe he just
sold tha darn thing. Its expansion rate is increasing, and probably
God will have to sell the darn thing if He hasn't already because when
God retires like I do he'll have knowhere to put the damn thing, and
if he puts it someplace in case it gets to be useful in God's old age,
its size needs more and more room. When a man gets old, he usually has
to downsize his stuff, settle for less, and without being grumpy,
which is hard for blokes, and about the only thing that is hard when
old. So the last thing a bloke needs is some possession to blow up in
size as he gets older, yet God has to deal with just that. God will
have to deal with a terminally obese Universe. And in 20 more billion
billion years everything may have expanded so much that distance has
increased so much that light takes billions of years to travel from a
dog's tail to his eyes and brain.
I like well meaning religious people. I respect them highly, but most
are as dumb as a cucumber about existance, so why do they need to
believe BS while being so good? """"""
So Eddie, Just BE GOOD, and forget about everything else. It means YOU
ought to consider the option of being tolerant about other peoples'
ideas and beliefs.
Maybe during the next 10,000 years, our little dumb-arse species that
is so prone to saying it knows all worth knowing and thus so prone to
catastrophes, might just learn to be +20dB wiser when armed by what
probably will be a +1,000dB increase in scientific knowledge. In
12,012,
our species may have completely become something entirely
unrecognizable, with every facet of life as we know it completely
changed. This seems probable as the current rate of "progress" if that
is what it is. I suspect wonderment and fascination is a built-in
feature of regenerative and intelligent life no matter what form it
takes, and even when the IQ of an individual exceeds 2,000, as it
might, although I see us all losing individuality and becoming one
gigantic organism sharing a one whopping brain, with IQ maybe
10,000,000. Maybe questions will still be asked in 12,012, "Where are
you God, we've been looking for 20,000 years....."
Don't Worry, Be Happy Eddie.