Ah! Njoe Tjoeb 4000 and Heart CD 6000
Jarik Kawung
I've seen these players both reviewed favorably on web-sites, and then I've
seen them derided as just an excuse to stick tubes in a CD player. So I
thought I'd ask the tube gurus here if any of you have had experience with
either and what your thoughts are on them. The Heart 6000 seems
interesting, albeit quite a bit more expensive, in that they've bypassed the
op-amps completely. Some have compared this to a tube phono stage. Could
the sound of the player be improved that much by doing this? And if so, why
haven't more manufacturers done this?
I appreciate any and all input you may have on these players.
Thanks,
Jarik
Rich Sherman
technology like improved jitter figures, a better DAC section and a stable
transport enclosed in a hefty physical package. When you pull the cover off some
500 dollar CD players you wonder why they left so much empty space inside.
Bigger is better maybe?
In addition to this if you already own a CD player with Digital/Optical outputs,
upsampling via external DAC's might offer you better overall sound, and you can
keep your existing CD player as a transport.
If the warranty on the tubed CD units you describe offers a money back home
audition, why not give them a try and send back if you are not satisfied. If
your system is all 'Solid State' then a tube CD player will most definetly add
something different to the overall sound of your CD's. It will be for you to
decide whether it is an improvement or not.
Ronald Pit
I don't know about that expencive stuf (lack of money) , but I did skip the
op-amp sh*t of my old Onkyo DX2700 (only dual 16 bit) , put in a passive
low-pass filter and added a external tube stage .
All those years I didn't know there was so much music on a (standard) CD !!
Try this first with an old multi-bit and then compare those expencive ones
to
that silly old multi-bit !!!
The only thing I know about the "Heart" is that they use a E88CC and that is
just one tube I don't like , only if you already whiping your behind with
$$$$ ,
you'll be abel to run them hot enough to get linear (worn out soon) .
Two reasons they used this tube :
1) It's very popular
(don't know why , still don't know where to use my 5 (used) <> bottems).
2) Still new ones available from Russia .......
Just my 0.02 euro,
Ronald.
P.S.
If you do like the sound of an E88CC , use at least 2 , both sections are
different !
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Shiva
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> Hi,
>
> I don't know about that expencive stuf (lack of money) , but I did skip
the
> op-amp sh*t of my old Onkyo DX2700 (only dual 16 bit) , put in a passive
> low-pass filter and added a external tube stage .
> All those years I didn't know there was so much music on a (standard) CD
!!
> Try this first with an old multi-bit and then compare those expencive ones
> to
> that silly old multi-bit !!!
>
> The only thing I know about the "Heart" is that they use a E88CC and that
is
> just one tube I don't like , only if you already whiping your behind with
> $$$$ ,
> you'll be abel to run them hot enough to get linear (worn out soon) .
>
The only thing *I* know 'bout Heart is "baracuda" was pretty bitc*in', and
they *used* to be pretty hot (lookie what happened...)
-dim
Doug Schultz
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Fred Nachbaur
Doug Schultz wrote:
>>>[...]
>>
>>The only thing *I* know 'bout Heart is "baracuda" was pretty bitc*in', and
>>they *used* to be pretty hot (lookie what happened...)
>>-dim
>>
>>
>
> hehe an album recorded in my home town of Vancouver at Mushroom studios
... on tube gear! They couldn't afford the new snazzy
solid-state-equipped studios in Seattle, so came up north for a deal.
The rest is history...
"Dreamboat Annie" is still one of my favourites for demonstrating the
sound of tubes... along with Brubeck's "Time Out."
Fred
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Nothing40
> Doug Schultz wrote:
> >>>[...]
> >>
> >>The only thing *I* know 'bout Heart is "baracuda" was pretty bitc*in', and
> >>they *used* to be pretty hot (lookie what happened...)
> >>-dim
> >>
> >>
> >
> > hehe an album recorded in my home town of Vancouver at Mushroom studios
>
> ... on tube gear! They couldn't afford the new snazzy
> solid-state-equipped studios in Seattle, so came up north for a deal.
> The rest is history...
>
> "Dreamboat Annie" is still one of my favourites for demonstrating the
> sound of tubes... along with Brubeck's "Time Out."
>
> Fred
Ahh yes! I was just listening to that record a few days ago. (I have a
Nautilus half speed pressing of it..) It sounds awesome,for vinyl.
Makes me want to get a better turntable..
Theres something about watching that Amanita mushroom on the label
spin around..and around...and...
Heart Rocks! My fav's are Dreamboat Annie,and Barracuda (awesome
gee-tar!)
It sounds Soooo nice on tube equipment!
Nothing40.
Shiva
"Nothing40" <noth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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...And when you run into some snooty salesguy at a music store - just dime
out the loudest amp on the floor and do the intro (don't do the harmonics on
the 12th - just slide right up there and do a nice neck-drop on their
precious guitah'. Pisses them right off...
-dim
Stew
anything else i've herd near the price. But I prefer a natural midrange and
real woody sounding acoustics, I have west German Telefunken E88CC gold
pins fitted.
Stew.
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