METRIC MUSINGS...
Lord Valve
The metric system, which was based on an arbitrary
measurement (one ten-millionth of the distance from
the equator to the North Pole along the longitude
line which runs near Dunkerque, France, or somesuch
nonsense) to begin with, is not inherently more precise
or accurate than any other system. The fact that the
international standard for the meter is now specified
as a certain number of wavelengths of a specific
frequency of light, or as the distance light travels
in 1/299,792,458 of a second, doesn't occlude the fact
that its genesis was as entirely arbitrary as the Old
English standard for the inch, which was "three barley-
corns, hard and dry." Its confusing array of suffixes
and prefixes is not easily memorized. And, contrary to
the general European perception, Americans are not
intimidated by it. It is taught in American schools.
I am equally comfortable with either system, which puts
me considerably ahead of most Europeans. I *prefer* to
buy my milk by the quart, my steak by the pound, and my
gasoline by the gallon. For eyeball purposes, the English
system beats the crap out of the metric system. In fact,
the only thing I can see about the metric system which
would make it more desirable than the English system is
that pecker-length sounds more impressive in centimeters.
This may have been the deciding factor for the French, who
invented it. I am, however, fond of using the phrase
"a metric shitload."
I think the entire world should convert to the Whitworth
system anyway. ;-)
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Mark Harriss
technically advanced nations such as Uganda??.
The proof of a systems validity is who uses it,
most scientists worldwide prefer to work in
metric units as it's a lot more useful.
I'd also like to point out American money
is a decimal currency, if Imperial was so good
you'd all be counting cash in guineas, pounds,
crowns, schillings and pennies.
Finally not even the British who
originated the Imperial system use it anymore
with it's little gems like alcohol proof: 57%
is 100 English proof at which point alcohol
burns with a blue flame when mixed with
gunpowder. You'd have to be drunk to be mixing
alcohol with gunpowder and setting fire to it!!!
greg z
system anyway. ;-)
Lord Valve
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Now thats a real pain in the ass.
You know how goddamn hard it is to find
<good> Br. Whitworth tools.
Jeeze-------What a pain.
The sizes suck,and the shit they make to
fit it is crap. Try to work on a Vincent or
restore an AC cobra with crap tools.
Greg z
to thine own sound be true
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Carl
Jerry Shaw
"Lord Valve" wrote >
> I think the entire world should convert to the Whitworth
> system anyway. ;-)
>
I thought it was "Wentworth"?
Jerry
fishhead
> schools.
I think U.S. converted officially to metric in 1876...whatever that
means. Probably for the purposes of trade.
I have one metric conversion down cold: 355ml.
> In fact, the only thing I can see about the metric system which
> would make it more desirable than the English system is
> that pecker-length sounds more impressive in centimeters.
I saw an "English system" ruler at a fishing tackle shop that would be
great for this too. All the inch markings are about 3/4". Mine works
great....um..I mean...
Gilbert Bates
As I recall, you spent most of January cleaning out your shop, right? See
what happens? You've now got too much free time on your hands and you
ramble here with your silly rants.
Now, do I have to come down there and make you search for that box of EL34's
that's hidden under the box of 7581's that's hidden under the box 12AX7's
thats burried under the pile of amp carcasses, just to keep you busy or
what?
Have Lady Valve make you a sandwich then go take a nap... ;-)
Gilbert in Ft. Collins
Lord Valve wrote in message <3AD2CCE4...@ix.netcom.com>...
Mr. Big Jas.
: me considerably ahead of most Europeans. I *prefer* to
: buy my milk by the quart, my steak by the pound, and my
: gasoline by the gallon.
You and Grandpa Simpson:
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to
the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.
Jas.
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Roland Bettenville
IMHO you are missing the point about the metric system.
It is not wether the distance of one meter was chosen arbitrary or not.
The point is that:
milli is 1/1000
centi is 1/100
kilo is x1000
and so on
so 1 centimeter is 1/100 meter and 1 kilometer is 1000 meter as
1 centiliter is 1/100 liter and so on
now how much inch in a foot? and how much yard in a mile, if you know at
least what kind of mile we are talking about (nautic mile???)
In article <3AD2CCE4...@ix.netcom.com>, detr...@ix.netcom.com
says...
Lord Valve
>Isn't the Imperial system used by such
>technically advanced nations such as Uganda??.
>The proof of a systems validity is who uses it,
>most scientists worldwide prefer to work in
>metric units as it's a lot more useful.
LV: I don't recall where I said differently.
However, it's still a preference, and
still arbitrary. Science can be done
with any measurement system.
>I'd also like to point out American money
>is a decimal currency, if Imperial was so good
>you'd all be counting cash in guineas, pounds,
>crowns, schillings and pennies.
LV: An excellent and interesting system, with
broad historical traditions. And that's
"shillings." (Accuracy, wot?)
>Finally not even the British who
>originated the Imperial system use it anymore
>with it's little gems like alcohol proof: 57%
>is 100 English proof at which point alcohol
>burns with a blue flame when mixed with
>gunpowder. You'd have to be drunk to be mixing
>alcohol with gunpowder and setting fire to it!!!
LV: Ah, my very point...these things are *far*
more interesting than the dry, boring metric
shit...kilo-deci-centi-wank-wank-wank...bah!
Give me spans, fathoms, furlongs, leagues,
cubits, chaldrons, firkins, hogsheads! Pipes,
poles, puncheons and roods! Kilderkins and
knots! Ells, chains, hands and nails! Manly
measures for manly men! These are the things
of legend...the metric system is good for
little more than scaring children or putting
oneself to sleep. I resist the inroads the
colorless metric crap has made; give 'em
2.54 centimeters and they'll take 1.609
kilometers! (Barf.) 28.35 grams of prevention
are worth 0.454 kilograms of cure, I always
say. That's my story an' I'm a-stickin' to it.
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to it, I reckon. A-yup. (Apologies to the
furriner who wrote these here words.)
LV
Ian Iveson
fact that we have10 fingers in Europe, if you include thumbs and
count both hands. Hence the decimal counting system.
Dozens are more convenient, mathematically, except that we don't
take naturally to counting in duo-decimal.
What about the kilogramme? It is a basic unit but starts with
"kilo", so then you need "tonne" instead of "kilokilogramme". So
who cocked this one up? Especially when it gets shortened to just
"kilo".
But this was a touch of the Lord Valve pragmatism, wasn't it. The
gramme is just too small for even French shoppers to get their heads
round.
regards, Ian
"Roland Bettenville" <roland.be...@pandora.be> wrote in
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Vince Rhea
groan at the mention of the word metric. We weren't raised with it so it
seems difficult to understand. There is no doubt that it is easier to use
once you are familiar with it ( like the simplicity of everything being a
nice easy multiple of 10 vs working with fractions of an inch, LV, when you
are building something) It will be great for the next generation that grows
up with it but tough on us old dogs that don't easily learn new tricks.
I'll bet LV hasn't stopped buying soda just because it's in 2 liter bottles
though, and I'll bet he also knows what someone is talking about now when
they say "give me two liters of..." It is all a matter of what you are used
to, nothing more.
To make things worse the US can't seem to make up it's mind whether it's
going metric or not. I was still working as a highway engineer when the Feds
said "you will" have all plans in metric format by such and such a date if
you want Federal funds. Just before I left to start my own business they had
changed to "welllllll, you can if you want to". I don't know were they are
now but they had everyone running in circles wasting money converting back
and forth for way too long. It's time to crap or get off the pot. Either we
switch or we forget it. Oh, by the way, can anyone tell me the diameter of a
tele 12ax7 in mm? Nice save from the off topic police, huh?
Vince
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>
>
Reid Kneeland
to the MOON with them pounds'n inches.
Y'all did WHAT, 'zactly??
Reid
Reid Kneeland
(Perhaps it is in languages other than English?)
Reid
Bill Kahle
*snip*
> 2.54 centimeters and they'll take 1.609
> kilometers! (Barf.) 28.35 grams of prevention
> are worth 0.454 kilograms of cure, I always
> say. That's my story an' I'm a-stickin' to it.
>
read better as :
give'em 2.54 cm &
they'll take 2.54E-5 km?
(wretch) & 28.35 gms. of prevention
are worth 28.35 mg of cure..............
?
Bill
Oskari Heinonen
>
> Oh, by the way, can anyone tell me the diameter of a
> tele 12ax7 in mm? Nice save from the off topic police, huh?
Certainly, Vince. :-)
Telefunken specs the ECC83 as follows in the 1971 Taschenbuch.
49,2 mm without pins (7 mm), diameter 22,2 mm, ca. 14 g
Use of comma as a decimal separator as in the original. :-)
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>mg or Mg?
I dunno,
I'm very confused
by it all, and actually, while
being a wise-ass, it backfired!
28.35gM =====> should be 28350mGm,
or is it Gm & MgM, or.....
I'll leave this one alone now!
Bill
WPCDan
and drop my pants
I can count to 20 1/2
Is this Metric or Imperial ?
I need to know
James
I once asked for a half litre bottle of coke at a shop and was told "we only
have 300 or 500ml bottles". And this was in metric Australia.
James.
"Vince Rhea" <vi...@glasgow-ky.com> wrote in message
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>>SNIP
> I'll bet LV hasn't stopped buying soda just because it's in 2 liter
bottles
> though, and I'll bet he also knows what someone is talking about now when
> they say "give me two liters of..." It is all a matter of what you
>>SNIP
Stefan Markowitz
Bill Kahle schrieb in Nachricht ...
>
>*snip*
>> 2.54 centimeters and they'll take 1.609
>> kilometers! (Barf.) 28.35 grams of prevention
>> are worth 0.454 kilograms of cure, I always
>> say. That's my story an' I'm a-stickin' to it.
>>
>T'wouldn't it
>read better as :
>give'em 2.54 cm &
>they'll take 2.54E-5 km?
In my humble understanding of word games in English,
I read it as "give 悶m an inch and they惻l take a mile", which
is something like "give 悶m a finger and they惻l take the
whole hand".
Stefan
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Lord Valve <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Ian Iveson
kilogramme is the basic unit of mass.
A thousand times a basic unit is a kilo-basic-unit.
Strictly, their should be no such thing as a gramme, which should be
a millikilogramme.
Am I spelling gramme wrong?
regards, Ian
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Nick Dolling
> Am I spelling gramme wrong?
Yesse.
Nick :)
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>
> Lord Valve Speaketh:
<I am, however, fond of using the phrase
> "a metric shitload."
>
> I think the entire world should convert to the Whitworth
> system anyway. ;-)
I think "shitload" as a world wide standard of measure is apropriate,
and practical. A shitload is universal.
A shitload of water
A shitload of tubes
A shitload of road (as in distance traveled)
It can extended by the powers of ten prefixes:
milli shitload
centi shitload
shitload
kilo shitload
And best of all, it can be empiricaly measured, and a reference standard
set. To honour the originator of the metric shitload (as a standard
measure), the centralised reference standard shall be:
One standard load in mass = one standard morning dump by the lord of
Valves.
One standard load in distance = the distance the load drops
(alternatively, the length of LV's legs?).
One standard load of water = the total volume of water the load
displaces.
The standard equivalent incandescence can be measured by how bright the
fully darkened lavatory becomes resulting from LV's preparation to
establish said standards of measure....
I have my flame proof suit at the ready.
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"Stefan Markowitz" <S.Mar...@dontspam.gmx.de> wrote in message
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Nationalities, measurements,
& finger gestures-...it's not well
advised to order two beers in England
with a backwards "peace sign". Been there
& was stared at.
Bill
Miles O'Neal
>
> His Lordship suffers from the same problem as the rest of us old farts who
> groan at the mention of the word metric. We weren't raised with it so it
> seems difficult to understand.
I don't ordinarily claim to speak for anyone but myself (if even
for me). But in this case, I'm sure I speak for his Valveness as
well as myself:
Poppycock!
It's plenty easy to understand. So what? It's *boring*.
Yes, it's quite handy for scientific and engineering calculations.
I can do the ham band math in my head quite easily in metric compared
to trying with the non-metric system. But for the world my body, as
opposed to my mind, interacts with - blech.
Besides - an imperial gallonne of gasoline cost a lot more
thanm a US gallon of gasoline. 8^)
The one place growing up with it matters is not in understanding,
it's in visualizing. A foot - that means something. Three feet
is easy enough to get your mind around. 98% of all boys who grew
up in the USA prior to 1980 or so understand the quarter mile
really well. Every guy and 2/3 of the gals understand 100 yards,
and because the track around that 100 yards is a quarter mile,
it's still understood, even if it isn't linear.
> There is no doubt that it is easier to use
> once you are familiar with it ( like the simplicity of everything being a
> nice easy multiple of 10 vs working with fractions of an inch, LV, when you
> are building something)
Tenths of an inch are fractions, too. 8^) But the old system,
which is just 1/base2, is great training for binary computer
stuff, no?
...
> I'll bet LV hasn't stopped buying soda just because it's in 2 liter bottles
> though, and I'll bet he also knows what someone is talking about now when
> they say "give me two liters of..."
Well, duh, a liter is just a perverted quart. It's not like the meter
vs the yard, where the foot has no equivalent. (Quick, visualize three
decimeters!)
As to switching the US to metric, that might have worked
prior to 1910 or so. It would be an obscenely huge task
(2 terratonnes or so) to do so today.
-Miles (and proud of it)
WPCDan
mega shitload
Lord Valve
using it. It just bores the crap out of me, is all. Not only that, try
measuring a third of anything with it... ;-)
LV
Ned Carlson
<ning...@one.net.au> wrote:
> I'd also like to point out American money
>is a decimal currency, if Imperial was so good
>you'd all be counting cash in guineas, pounds,
>crowns, schillings and pennies.
Not to mention tuppence, ha'pennys and farthings.
Actually, that old system isn't quite as arbitrary
as it might seem, 240 old Anglo Saxon silver pennies
weighed a pound.
>
> Finally not even the British who
>originated the Imperial system use it anymore
Oh, I think they use it for measuring beer, I can't
see the Brits giving up pints for smaller half-liters..
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Lord Valve
forgot the mega-shitload...
LV
Lord Valve
WPCDan wrote:
You have my sympathy. Most folks
so arrayed could count to 23...
LV
Mark Harriss
1.25 L, 2L and 3L cokes.
Mark Harriss
> Well, duh, a liter is just a perverted quart.
>
not only that but one litre weighs one kilogram and takes one
kilocalorie, to raise one degree celsius.
Roger Smith
just a correction, one litre is 1000 cubic centimetres of displacement,
not one kilogram. I mean, litre of mercury would weigh a lot more than a
litre of water, right?
Rodge
Russ Porosky
use when you're born into it. I can't convert to any other system in my
head, just memorize a few matching numbers (temperature mainly, so I can
laugh at my cousin in Georgia when it's warmer here than there). I've never
confused the prefixes, and I can eyeball 10cm as easily as you can eyeball 3
inches. I can eyeball 25l as easily as you can eyeball a gallon (US or
imperial?). I think metric is considered more accurate because it's basic
measurement units are smaller - thus giving simpler measurments for
extremely small values - like atomic weights and how wide your hair is. I
find it easier to remember a kilometre than mile, centimetre than inch, and
litre than gallon. All the words have a common ending in metric -
micrometre, millimetre, centimetre, decimetre, metre, decametre, kilometre.
Try that in Imperial - inch, foot, yard, mile, league. Different words for
each length. Ah well.
PS. I may have confused the deci- and deca- prefixes. I never actually use
them so I don't remember which is which :)
"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> invented it. I am, however, fond of using the phrase
> "a metric shitload."
>
> I think the entire world should convert to the Whitworth
> system anyway. ;-)
>
Mark Harriss
but one litre of water weighs exactly one
kilogram and like you mentioned displaces
1000 cubic centimetres. Kind of handy for
making a test weight.
Mark Harriss
reread that initial statement, Roger and you
are right, I didn't mention the water bit.
Matt Seniff
<detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Us back-ards Murricans jes' don' cotton
>to it, I reckon. A-yup. (Apologies to the
>furriner who wrote these here words.)
>LV
>
Yup backwards American's really just like measuring their mobile homes
in feet rather than meters, it makes them sound bigger.
Roger Smith
Mark Harriss wrote:
>
> That is, at standard temp and pressure. I
> reread that initial statement, Roger and you
> are right, I didn't mention the water bit.
>
> Mark Harriss wrote:
>
> > Mercury is a heck of a lot denser than water
> > but one litre of water weighs exactly one
> > kilogram and like you mentioned displaces
> > 1000 cubic centimetres. Kind of handy for
> > making a test weight.
ah okay. that's pretty cool. i didnt know that.
I heard that the metal bar they used as *the* definitive measurement for
a metre also was used as the basis for a kilogram for weight. my bad...
Rodge
andrewunix
:Lord Valve Speaketh:
:
:the only thing I can see about the metric system which
:would make it more desirable than the English system is
:that pecker-length sounds more impressive in centimeters.
:This may have been the deciding factor for the French, who
:invented it. I am, however, fond of using the phrase
:"a metric shitload."
You gotta admit that the base-ten aspect of it is pretty convenient since
it corresponds with our system of numerals, though.
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museum?
Ian
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Ian Iveson
> system anyway. ;-)
>
> 1/299,792,458 of a second
We have microseconds and other small metric times, but no
kilosecond. If we had 60 fingers, I would believe in god.
regards, Ian
"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Lord Valve Speaketh:
> ...ruthless chop...
Ian Iveson
studiously overriding. But you may be right.
I will check it out. Maybe it is optional or something. I must
have got it from somewhere. France?
regards, Ian
"Nick Dolling" <ndol...@apexus.com.au> wrote in message
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Ian Iveson
pounds, and having no metric scales, happened a day or two ago.
We have a fondness for bottled milk, in recyclable one-pint glass
bottles. This is a part of our dying culture. It is not so much
the measures themselves that upset me, but the fact that the reason
for change always lies in a cultural shift. For us in the UK, we
were obviously fond of our independence.
As for beer, it is almost synonymous with pint. And what about all
those glasses?
regards, Ian
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Lord Valve
Ian Iveson wrote:
> And of course the standard shitload will be housed in a Paris
> museum?
>
> Ian
Once I'm finished with it, I reckon they
can, um..."enthrone" it however they'd
like. I've seen stranger things than
that come outta froggyville labled
as "art." ;-)
LV
Nick Sheldon
SI system is good for scientists, it is very bad for the lay public.
For example, 9.81 m/s/s seems to mean nothing to even those who have passed
A level physics, but 22mph/sec *does*. Similarly, c=3x10^8m/s has no effect
on the students' minds, but 670 million mph *does*. Also, a useful *very*
approximate equivalence when teaching the concept of energy is that a joule
is a foot-pound.
You can even do this "anglicisation" with non-trivial units like henries and
tesla. If there's anyone out there who'd like to collaborate on an
"anti-metric" physics book, please contact me at nick_s...@yahoo.com
Nick Sheldon
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Ian Iveson wrote in message ...
Lord Valve
Nick Sheldon wrote:
> Having taught physics to non-physicists, I am quite convinced that while the
> SI system is good for scientists, it is very bad for the lay public.
>
> For example, 9.81 m/s/s seems to mean nothing to even those who have passed
> A level physics, but 22mph/sec *does*. Similarly, c=3x10^8m/s has no effect
> on the students' minds, but 670 million mph *does*. Also, a useful *very*
> approximate equivalence when teaching the concept of energy is that a joule
> is a foot-pound.
>
> You can even do this "anglicisation" with non-trivial units like henries and
> tesla. If there's anyone out there who'd like to collaborate on an
> "anti-metric" physics book, please contact me at nick_s...@yahoo.com
>
> Nick Sheldon
> feeling single-ended? www.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/singleendedvalveamplifiers
Yeah, that's what I said...the metric system sucks for
eyeball purposes. People who think it doesn't haven't
had much experience eyeballing things from the other
side of the coin.
LV
Ian Iveson
That would be Whitworth crap?
Ian
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Adam Stouffer
10/3=3.333333333.......
Adam
sciascia
in Britain was one of many factors that lead to the our revolutionary
war. We were getting cheated!!!
Mike
Preamp wrote:
> >and my
> >gasoline by the gallon.
>
> I assume you mean an Imperial gallon and not the wimpy US gallon? :-)
Stefan Markowitz
Mark Harriss schrieb in Nachricht <3AD423B8...@one.net.au>...
>not only that but one litre weighs one kilogram and takes one
>kilocalorie, to raise one degree celsius.
To complicate things a bit, the unit "kg" isn´t a measure of
weight, it is a measure of mass.
Stefan
JJman
>weight, it is a measure of mass.
>
>
>Stefan
>
>
>
Then what would the analogous unit of measure for weight be?
Mass=weight on earth no?
JJman
James
Milk bars don't usually sell the larger bottles.
James.
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Steve O'Neill
Doesn't the diameter at 22.2 er 22,2mm strike you as a strange value for a
diameter. Why not 22mm or 25? Because 22,2mm converts to 7/8 inch within
the roundoff error of 0,1mm. In the same manner 49,2 mm converts to 1-15/16
inch. Apparently the English system of measurement forms the basis of all
measurement systems in the known universe.
Steve
Oskari Heinonen wrote in message <3AD36527...@cs.Helsinki.FI>...
>Vince Rhea wrote:
>>
>> Oh, by the way, can anyone tell me the diameter of a
>> tele 12ax7 in mm? Nice save from the off topic police, huh?
>
>Certainly, Vince. :-)
>
>Telefunken specs the ECC83 as follows in the 1971 Taschenbuch.
>
> 49,2 mm without pins (7 mm), diameter 22,2 mm, ca. 14 g
>
>Use of comma as a decimal separator as in the original. :-)
>
>Regards, Oskari
>
>--
>Oskari Heinonen * University of Helsinki * Department of Computer Science
>Oskari....@cs.Helsinki.FI * http://www.cs.Helsinki.FI/Oskari.Heinonen/
>
Nick Dolling
"Weight" is actually force due to gravity. F=ma, so on earth, when a= 1g
= acceleration due to gravity, your weight is numerically equal to your
mass in kg. When you pull a 2g turn on a swing or in a plane, you weigh
twice your mass, for example.
Nick
Jacob Pyke
>
> Then what would the analogous unit of measure for weight be?
>
> Mass=weight on earth no?
Mass is the weight of a body without any gravitational forces on it. Weight
is measured in Newtons and Mass in Kilograms. Thats in metric at least...
Glenn
As I have voiced before, compare the USA/SAE
standard to metric and metric loses every time.
Examples:
1 centimeter is divisible by 1,2,5,10
1 foot divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,12
more mathamatical options by the foot
(how do you deal with radians in metric?)
Centigrade 0=freeze 100=boil
Farenheight 32-freeze, 212=boil
finer better graduation with F.
Sae deals in fraction ie, 8ths, 16ths, 32nds, etc and 10ths
Try that with metric.
A populat rumor (maybe confirmed by now) is the last
mars lander crashed over metric conversions that didn't
jive.
Of course the bureaucrats in the states are still trying to
jam the metric sytem into the mainstream here. Try working
on one of the 4 wheeled roaches detroit calls an auto.
Its a big guessing game whether you need a 12mm or
1/2 inch to get some dastardly part out since there is
a great assortment of both "standards" in motown metal.
While on the soap box, I also think anyone who supports
jackin' with the clock twice a year needs to be put out of
their misery too. The cows don't change their clock and
neither should I. Ya want summer hours, fine, go in an hour
earlier. Leave my clock alone!!!
And finally, the local pub here has Guniess on tap and
their pints are actually 20oz. Now thats a mistake we
could all live with eh?
Glenn
Proud owner of homebrew Williamsons
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Lord Valve
Glenn wrote:
Lord Valve Speaketh:
I never got the daylight savings time thing either.
It's like cutting a foot (OK, 30.48 centiwankers,
or whatever the furriners call them pint-size fuckers)
off one end of a blanket and then sewing it
onto the other end. Same blanket, only it was
a pain in the ass to modify, and now it looks
like shit. Maybe the French invented it. ;-)
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That's a pretty near perfect anology.
I agree.. get up earlier and let the rest of us sleep.
also.. do you think that's what those penis enlargement spams are all about?
they just send you a metric conversion table?
(I swear I get that email more than anything else.)
((.. and it's just rumors, dammit! ))
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I would greatly appreciate any leads.
I can't check the newsgroup too regularly, so if anyone has any for
sale, please contact me directly.
Cheers,
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darrell
Lord Valve <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
Same blanket, only it was
> a pain in the ass to modify, and now it looks
> like shit. Maybe the French invented it. ;-)
Actually it was Ben Franklin, but he was in France at the time. They
probably convinced him to promote the Turkey as the national bird too.
darrell
Roland Bettenville
sheldona...@demon.co.uk says...
> Having taught physics to non-physicists, I am quite convinced that while the
> SI system is good for scientists, it is very bad for the lay public.
Say's who? You because are brought op with miles and gallons.
To me 22mph/sec or 670 million mph does not mean a fuck. But I have no
problems visualising 9.81 m/s/s or 300000 km/sec, it just depends on what
you are used to.
Oskari Heinonen
>
> Doesn't the diameter at 22.2 er 22,2mm strike you as a strange value
> for a diameter.
Nope. There's nothing wrong with decimals.
> Why not 22mm or 25? Because 22,2mm converts to 7/8 inch within
> the roundoff error of 0,1mm. In the same manner 49,2 mm converts to
> 1-15/16 inch. Apparently the English system of measurement forms the
> basis of all measurement systems in the known universe.
Eh? This only shows that we can easily respec in mm. Besides, who wants
weird quotients?
Everybody knows that for international purposes one common system is a
big plus. For scientific purposes SI is the only way to go. Even the
loudmouths (fingers?) get this, although they pretend otherwise.
This thread will take us nowhere. We might as well stop.
darrell
Oskari Heinonen <Oskari....@cs.Helsinki.FI> wrote in message
> This thread will take us nowhere. We might as well stop.
You must be new around here. ;-)
darrell
Ian Iveson
measure. We have passed historically from subjective to "objective"
measures. Neither a metre nor a millimetre is much good for
measuring the length of a potato. Centimetres were kind of OK but
they don't really exist any more. Inches and feet are both really
useful for most animals and vegetables.
To tell you the truth, though, I think the mile is far too long
without the furlong to bridge the gap. I think in quarter-miles,
which is as far as I would usually walk to the shop. A kilometre is
quite sensible. But can you have a half-kilometre?
And a litre of petrol doesn't go very far, does it? That is just a
couple of trips to the shop.
regards, Ian
"Roland Bettenville" <roland.be...@pandora.be> wrote in
message news:MPG.153fede52...@news.pandora.be...
Ian Iveson
> This thread will take us nowhere. We might as well stop.
It has elicited the same range of response as it usually does,
Oskari. It is the same as all the romantic verses scientific
threads, just like the ones about cables or capacitors.
So why do they crop up so often? I think there is a real problem
here: not only is there a polarisation of views, but this reflects
the dual nature of our situation. For most of us, both sides here
are correct, and the real argument may eventually serve the purpose
of bridging the two opposite truths. That would be a useful
philosophical leap.
So, since compromise seems impossible, we need a bigger truth to
explain the opposition. Everyone knows that mass and energy are
opposites, but it took a leap of understanding to realise that they
are also equal.
There is a classical explanation for the angst expressed by the
luddites here, is there not? Something to do with alienation and
stuff. We could end up with a lot of very scientific but
dangerously sheep-like people.
On the other hand, the romantic side would ultimately have us throw
out our audio stuff and sing folk songs to ourselves instead, whilst
playing primitive pipes and banging sticks.
So how can I embrace the metre and yet keep my soul?
best wishes, Ian
Ian Iveson
relative to what?
Ian
sco...@fundsxpress.com
>>To complicate things a bit, the unit "kg" isn´t a measure of
>>weight, it is a measure of mass.
>>
>>
>>Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>
>Then what would the analogous unit of measure for weight be?
Nobody has mentioned slugs yet. Slug is to pound as newton is to Kg.
__
Steve
.
Stefan Markowitz
Preamp schrieb in Nachricht <8cfcdtg55q5s3k4kg...@4ax.com>...
>>> (so long as it is stationary
>>
>>relative to what?
>
Almost anything is stationary relative to the speed of light, innit!
Furthermore, any signal below 1GHz is DC. :-)
Stefan
sciascia
>
>
> >(how do you deal with radians in metric?)
>
> Hmmm.. let's invent 100 centigrees to a full rotation?
>
> >Centigrade 0=freeze 100=boil
> >Farenheight 32-freeze, 212=boil
> >finer better graduation with F.
>
> Oh come now... much more intuitive to have freezing be 0 and have a nice round
> 100 degrees to boiling. You want finer graduation... use 0.1
Steve O'Neill
You didn't get my point. If Telefunken were really designing in pure metric
or SI or whatever they were using then, they would have spec'ed out 22,0mm
as the nominal dia. not 22,1. It seems to me that what they really did was
take the existing US (english?) spec for a 9 pin tube envelope at 7/8 inch
and simply convert it to mm rounded to the nearest tenth. This is not a
good form of metrification in my mind but I see it all the time in the US.
Ah well.....and some day we'll all speak English too.
Steve
Glenn
>
>You can divide a centimeter (or a foot) by anything you like... no limitations.
OK, please pass the 9/32mm wrench
>
>Hmmm.. let's invent 100 centigrees to a full rotation?
>
>
>Oh come now... much more intuitive to have freezing be 0 and have a nice round
>100 degrees to boiling. You want finer graduation... use 0.1
>
>>Try that with metric.
>
>milli centi kilo ....
>
I used to buy pot from a dude that talked like that
>>A populat rumor (maybe confirmed by now) is the last
>>mars lander crashed over metric conversions that didn't
>>jive.
>
>Yeah, we never said you septics were any good at figuring.... :-)
>
Amen brother
>>Of course the bureaucrats in the states are still trying to
>>jam the metric sytem into the mainstream here. Try working
>>on one of the 4 wheeled roaches detroit calls an auto.
>>Its a big guessing game whether you need a 12mm or
>>1/2 inch to get some dastardly part out since there is
>>a great assortment of both "standards" in motown metal.
>
>See.. more proof you need to convert to metric...do it properly this time :-)
>
Bzzzzz, wrong answer
>
>>While on the soap box, I also think anyone who supports
>>jackin' with the clock twice a year needs to be put out of
>>their misery too. The cows don't change their clock and
>>neither should I. Ya want summer hours, fine, go in an hour
>>earlier. Leave my clock alone!!!
>
>I don't care so long as everyone in my longitude stays on the same time.
>
Hey, how about us too.
>>And finally, the local pub here has Guniess on tap and
>>their pints are actually 20oz. Now thats a mistake we
>>could all live with eh?
>
>Absolutely!!!
See, we do think alike.
Miles O'Neal
> This thread will take us nowhere. We might as well stop.
Man, did you take a wrong turn from the comp. groups,
or what?
Miles O'Neal
>... But I have no
> problems visualising 9.81 m/s/s or 300000 km/sec,...
You can visualize 300,000,000 m/s? Did you get a really
terrible whiplash doing that, or did it just rip all the
the neck muscles clean off when you turned your head to
fiollow whateveer you thought you saw move that fast?
Just curious...
Miles O'Neal
> Nobody has mentioned slugs yet. Slug is to pound as newton is to Kg.
Are those sluhs with or without salt?
Miles O'Neal
> On the other hand, the romantic side would ultimately have us throw
> out our audio stuff and sing folk songs to ourselves instead, whilst
> playing primitive pipes and banging sticks.
Ha! My romantic side could do without a lot of today's technology,
and even what passes for civilization. But I want my rock and roll
and my internet. Both require copious amounts of electricity.
> So how can I embrace the metre and yet keep my soul?
I don't think in Texas it's even legal to embrace the metre...
-Miles
Rich Koerner
Lord Valve wrote:
>
> Mark Harriss wrote:
>
> >Isn't the Imperial system used by such
> >technically advanced nations such as Uganda??.
> >The proof of a systems validity is who uses it,
> >most scientists worldwide prefer to work in
> >metric units as it's a lot more useful.
> LV: I don't recall where I said differently.
> However, it's still a preference, and
> still arbitrary. Science can be done
> with any measurement system.
>
> >I'd also like to point out American money
> >is a decimal currency, if Imperial was so good
> >you'd all be counting cash in guineas, pounds,
> >crowns, schillings and pennies.
> LV: An excellent and interesting system, with
> broad historical traditions. And that's
> "shillings." (Accuracy, wot?)
>
> >Finally not even the British who
> >originated the Imperial system use it anymore
> >with it's little gems like alcohol proof: 57%
> >is 100 English proof at which point alcohol
> >burns with a blue flame when mixed with
> >gunpowder. You'd have to be drunk to be mixing
> >alcohol with gunpowder and setting fire to it!!!
> LV: Ah, my very point...these things are *far*
> more interesting than the dry, boring metric
> shit...kilo-deci-centi-wank-wank-wank...bah!
> Give me spans, fathoms, furlongs, leagues,
> cubits, chaldrons, firkins, hogsheads! Pipes,
> poles, puncheons and roods! Kilderkins and
> knots! Ells, chains, hands and nails! Manly
> measures for manly men! These are the things
> of legend...the metric system is good for
> little more than scaring children or putting
> oneself to sleep. I resist the inroads the
> colorless metric crap has made; give 'em
> 2.54 centimeters and they'll take 1.609
> kilometers! (Barf.) 28.35 grams of prevention
> are worth 0.454 kilograms of cure, I always
> say. That's my story an' I'm a-stickin' to it.
>
> Lord Valve
And here, we agree 100%!!!
So much for the change to the metric system being voluntary. Damn
politians trying to make us all robots!!!!!
Give me a 45 cal.
Dump the 9mm.
Got no balls!!!!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...............??????
What is the metric unit for the decibel??????
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm................????????????
Wonder if they have a Metric Color Code??????
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........??????????
Screw it, I'm going fishing!!!!!
Hey, I need a metric dozen Night Crawlers, in metric length, for metric
FISH!!!!!!!
How bout a metric spool of metric test fishing line for my metric lures
and hooks too!!!
This shit cracks me up!!!
Hmmmmmmmm...............???????????????
When some asshole wants Old Glory converted to a Metric Size, I know we
are in Big Time Trouble!!!!
I'd take their picture to the shootin range in a heart beat!!!!!
Regards,
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Ned Carlson
<roland.be...@pandora.be> wrote:
>In article <987017057.27625.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>sheldona...@demon.co.uk says...
>> Having taught physics to non-physicists, I am quite convinced that while the
>> SI system is good for scientists, it is very bad for the lay public.
>
>Say's who? You because are brought op with miles and gallons.
>To me 22mph/sec or 670 million mph does not mean a fuck. But I have no
>problems visualising 9.81 m/s/s or 300000 km/sec, it just depends on what
>you are used to.
I would agree, one of ny customers used to have a Norwegian wife, and
he noted that she never quite got the hang of English measurements.
My wife is Mexican, and technically, Mexico is strictly a metric
country, but often Mexicans will still use English measurements
(and there's Spanish words for them, ie: pulgada is an inch, pie is a
foot, libra is a pound, milla is a mile), the difference is that she
doesn't have to mentally translate metric to English like I do.
While some English measurements are fairly intuitive, like foot and
inch (the Spanish "pulgada" is fairly descriptive, one inch being
about the same as the width of a male "pulgar" ie: thumb), others
aren't. Where did the English come up with the idea that stones
always weigh 7 pounds? Why does a US pint of water weigh
about 1 pound, but an Imperial pint weighs about 1 1/4 lb of water?
Americans will often describe distances in blocks, a standard street
block being usually 1/10 of a mile (except in Chicago, where it's 8
blocks to a mile, but then there's half blocks being 1/16 mile),
which seems intuitive to Americans but probably doesn't mean
diddley to non-Americans.
>> >> Actually, that old system isn't quite as arbitrary
>> >> as it might seem, 240 old Anglo Saxon silver pennies
>> >> weighed a pound.
I forgot to mention that I believe that the weight of old
Anglo Saxon pennies were related to the old Roman
denarius (thus the abbreviation d for penny).
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Rich Koerner
Miles O'Neal wrote:
> -Miles (and proud of it)
I caught that!!!!!!!
And, ONLY **YOU** Could Have Said Dat!!!!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sciascia
Ned Carlson wrote:
> ... Why does a US pint of water weigh about 1 pound, but an Imperial pint
> weighs about 1 1/4 lb of water?
Obviously the water is heavier in England...
The real reason is that during our colonial period. The British Government
permitted the colonialist to be cheated. I presume it was a government policy,
but it certainly was the practice. Basically we bought all our goods from
England and the English had their "thumb on the scale". You can consider it a
form of taxation, or just greed. I am not a history expert...
You will find that nearly all U.S. volumetric units differ from the Imperial
equivalents. It ranges from hogsheads to teaspoons.
There is always four quarts to a gallon provided you don't mix units. I remember
when Canada sold gasoline by the imperial gallon. It was 5 US quarts to an
imperial gallon. This is because the U.S. quart ended up being 16 oz while the
imperial quart was 20 oz. (5 x 16 = 4 x 20). Since ounces is a measure of
weight AND liquid volume it did not change. For some reason the British decided
to leave a "pound is a pound the world around". They also left measures of
length alone. Who knows why???
This policy went all the way down to the teaspoon. (Probably to save on silver in
the silverware they exported to the U.S.) I am pretty sure that the U.S.
tablespoon is the same as an imperial "soup spoon", (I have never heard of a U.S.
soup spoon.) It goes on and on... I am quite sure that the other British
colonies had the same problem. I have read that the Australian cup is a different
measure than the U.S. and Imperial cups.
sciascia
By the way folks, SI and Metric are not the same!!!
Ned Carlson
>
>
>Ned Carlson wrote:
>
>> ... Why does a US pint of water weigh about 1 pound, but an Imperial pint
>> weighs about 1 1/4 lb of water?
>
>Obviously the water is heavier in England...
>
>
>The real reason is that during our colonial period. The British Government
>permitted the colonialist to be cheated. I presume it was a government policy,
>but it certainly was the practice. Basically we bought all our goods from
>England and the English had their "thumb on the scale". You can consider it a
>form of taxation, or just greed. I am not a history expert...
I believe the real answer is that the British didn't standardize
their measurements until 1824 (after the US revolution), and at that
time there were two gallons:the wine gallon and the larger ale
gallon,as well as many other different measurements.
Naturally, the Francophile Americans adopted the wine gallon
and the ale-swilling Brits picked the other.
Some US measurements were intentionally made to match the
British (eg: like the pound), but others weren't, considering the
animosity between the US and Britain after the Napoleonic
Wars (remember, we weren't on the British side in that war!)
this is not surprising, and some of these measurements apparently
had become so entrenched in the USA (like bushels & gallons) that it
was difficult to change them.
here's a good article on the subject:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?eu=114986&tocid=13616
Jukka
Roland Bettenville wrote:
> Say's who? You because are brought op with miles and gallons.
> To me 22mph/sec or 670 million mph does not mean a fuck. But I have no
> problems visualising 9.81 m/s/s or 300000 km/sec, it just depends on what
> you are used to.
I悲 recommend using goold old measurement used in Finnish Lappland, it愀 called
"poronkusema". It refers to distance travelled by reindeer between urinating ;-)
Don愒 ask me how much it愀 in km愀 or miles, I don愒 know, I惴 not Lappish myself
;-)
Jukka
hac
before the kids need a restroom. There's no official name; I propose
the "McDonald" as the unit.
--
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Claude Frantz
> For eyeball purposes, the English
> system beats the crap out of the metric system. In fact,
> the only thing I can see about the metric system which
> would make it more desirable than the English system is
> that pecker-length sounds more impressive in centimeters.
> This may have been the deciding factor for the French, who
> invented it. I am, however, fond of using the phrase
> "a metric shitload."
Very interesting ! You are right, Lord Valve ! Please help
me a little bit. What is the unit of electrical capacity
and inductance in the english system ? Is it like
with the other english units, is there a british and a
american unit for electrical capacity and inductance ?
And what is the transconductance of a 6AU6 in english
units ? British and american units, please.
Lord Valve
Lord Valve wrote:
>>For eyeball purposes, the English
>>system beats the crap out of the metric system. In fact,
>>the only thing I can see about the metric system which
>>would make it more desirable than the English system is
>>that pecker-length sounds more impressive in centimeters.
>>This may have been the deciding factor for the French, who
>>invented it. I am, however, fond of using the phrase
>>"a metric shitload."
>Very interesting ! You are right, Lord Valve !
LV: I'm always right. That's why I get the big
money, son.
>Please help me a little bit.
LV: "Haaaaannnnnds across the water (water),
Haaaaannnnnds across the sea...."
>What is the unit of electrical capacity and
>inductance in the english system ?
LV: Why, the Farad and the Henry, of course.
>Is it like with the other english units, is
>there a british and a american unit for
>electrical capacity and inductance ?
LV: Well, junior, seein' as how Faraday was
a Limey, and Henry was a Yank, you can
look at it whatever way makes ya feel best.
>And what is the transconductance of a 6AU6 in
>english units ? British and american units, please.
LV: Anywhere from 3900 to 5200 umohs, depending on
how it's hooked up. Tell ya what, if'n it'll
make ya feel any better, the plate dissipation
rating is .0047 horsepower. Why am I absolutely
sure this post originated from R.A.T? Damn,
must be the unmistakable ordure of the audiophool
which wafts from it. Tell ya what, Claude...
don't take life so seriously. No-one gets out
alive anyway. Relax. Eat something.
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Lord Valve schrieb in Nachricht <3ADFD92F...@ix.netcom.com>...
> Tell ya what, if'n it'll
> make ya feel any better, the plate dissipation
> rating is .0047 horsepower.
SAE horsepower? :-)
Stefan
Lord Valve
Stefan Markowitz wrote:
As I understand it, a horsepower is a horsepower.
One horsepower = 745.7 watts. The different
flavors of horsepower, i.e., indicated, brake,
and SAE, have to do with where in an engine
the measurement is taken. Indicated is calculated
inside the cylinders, brake is taken from the
output shaft, and SAE applies specified conditions
to the engine under actual operating stresses.
Y'all oughta be glad I didn't give the rating
for a 6AU6 in foot-pounds per second. ;-)
Lord Valve
Miles O'Neal
> As I understand it, a horsepower is a horsepower.
> One horsepower = 745.7 watts.
So a 750 watt amp is a 1HP amp. If the amp
pulls that much from the wall, you could
call it that. 8^)
> Y'all oughta be glad I didn't give the rating
> for a 6AU6 in foot-pounds per second. ;-)
Go for it!
Nick Sheldon
There's a 335 horsepower amp at www.sound.au.com/kolok.htm under the heading
"Kutya'i". I'll just see what this is in ergs/aeon ;-]
Nick Sheldon
Lord Valve wrote in message <3AE05EC4...@ix.netcom.com>...
Stefan Markowitz
Lord Valve schrieb in Nachricht <3AE05EC4...@ix.netcom.com>...
>As I understand it, a horsepower is a horsepower.
>One horsepower = 745.7 watts. The different
>flavors of horsepower, i.e., indicated, brake,
>and SAE, have to do with where in an engine
>the measurement is taken.
Yeah, exactly that was my doubt. Should I
measure at the plate or at the cathode? :-)
>Y'all oughta be glad I didn't give the rating
>for a 6AU6 in foot-pounds per second. ;-)
You mean (foot-pounds)^2/s^3!
Btw, I prefer "Elle" as a length measuring unit instead of
foot. (1 Elle is the lenght of the forearm).
Hey, I just got the idea to actually measure the length
of my forearm, and guess what - it is exactly 1 foot,
whereas the length of my feet is significantly smaller.
So I don´t understand why you are using such an odd unit.
(Or are your feet that large?)
:-)
Stefan
Lord Valve
Nick Sheldon wrote:
> Hi LV
> There's a 335 horsepower amp at www.sound.au.com/kolok.htm under the heading
> "Kutya'i". I'll just see what this is in ergs/aeon ;-]
> Nick Sheldon
Hmmm, I think you calculator has
a bad tube in it or something...
the audio output power on that
amp is specified as 3KW; this is
just over 4 horsepower. 335 HP
is a quarter of a million watts.
That's rather large for an audio
amp, although there are radio
transmitters that large (and
considerably larger) which are
used for commercial broadcasting
and VLF submarine communications.
LV
Lord Valve
Stefan Markowitz wrote:
Actually, my feet are larger than a foot.
(Damn, that sounds weird.) I haven't
seen anyone mention the cubit yet;
that one's been around since Noah.
(A cubit is about 18".)
LV
Nick Sheldon
If you look carefully at the amp specified (Kutya'i not Ko'lok) you will
find it *is* 250,000 watts. Bad tube in the vision circuit ?
Best wishes
Nick Sheldon
Lord Valve wrote in message <3AE12552...@ix.netcom.com>...
Lord Valve
on the site, it ain't built yet.
LV
Nick Sheldon
Very nearly completed now. Just awaiting clearance from Health and Safety re
turning it on for initial testing! It's all computer controlled from a
separate room, but some adjustments require being present, which is a real
problem.
Details to follow on www.bigvalveamplifiers.co.uk in a week or so. This URL
is currently pointed at my robotics site, so don't click on it just yet
unless you're into free courses/info on this subject.
Best wishes
Nick Sheldon
Lord Valve wrote in message <3AE13228...@ix.netcom.com>...
Miles O'Neal
> Actually, my feet are larger than a foot.
No surprise there - yer larger than life!
> (Damn, that sounds weird.) I haven't
> seen anyone mention the cubit yet;
I love cubits. And handspans. Predates
feet by millenia.
> that one's been around since Noah.
And let's not forget fathoms and furlongs.
-Miles
greg z
Holy shit! 250 KW of audio! But from what it says
on the site, it ain't built yet.
LV
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Headphone amp for the hearing impaired.
Greg Z
to thine own sound be true