What's a Fritz Gyger stylus???

[Miguelito]

Hi!,

So what's this stylus? I kinda recall that it's a stylus whose shape is the
same as a cutting stylus... but I might be totally wrong...

Thanks.

Miguel

[Bruce Kinch]

In article <ED6vL...@midway.uchicago.edu>, mba...@midway.uchicago.edu
(Miguelito) wrote:

Fritz Gyger was apparently licensed at one time to produce the van den Hul
profile stylus, but they subsequently had a falling out. Both designs are
"line-contact" styli which have a long (or deep in the groove) vertical
contact with the wall but a narrow horizontal footprint. Think of a knife
blade pointing down at a right angle to the groove. Basically, the result
is improved detail and transient response, but more finicky VTA/SRA
adjusment-ie not indicated for Rega RB300 arms, for example.

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Bruce Kinch
Editor, Primyl Vinyl Exchange
The Audiophile Record Collectors' Newsletter

[Miguelito]

Hi all!,

So, how do you fine-tune VTA??? I mean, what should you listen to and which
way do you have to go (up or down) to fine-tune this setting?

Thanks!

Miguel

[Frank Gales]

Bruce Kinch wrote:
>
> In article <ED6vL...@midway.uchicago.edu>, mba...@midway.uchicago.edu
> (Miguelito) wrote:
>
> > Hi!,
> >
> > So what's this stylus? I kinda recall that it's a stylus whose shape is the
> > same as a cutting stylus... but I might be totally wrong...
> >
> Fritz Gyger was apparently licensed at one time to produce the van den Hul
> profile stylus, but they subsequently had a falling out. Both designs are
> "line-contact" styli which have a long (or deep in the groove) vertical
> contact with the wall but a narrow horizontal footprint. Think of a knife
> blade pointing down at a right angle to the groove. Basically, the result
> is improved detail and transient response, but more finicky VTA/SRA
> adjusment-ie not indicated for Rega RB300 arms, for example.

As far as I know Fritz Gyger either worked for Aalt van den Hul or was
somehow
else related to the work of van den Hul. Van den Hul developed the new
stylus shapes but Gyger was faster to get the patent or something like
that.
So there are Gyger stylii that are the same as van den Hul.

VTA is a little bit fiddly with that needle. It seems to need 22deg.
VTA to work good. Just did this setup on a cart with van den Hul
stylus (I or Is) last weekend.

Frank
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[Walter Tice USG]

There are a number of factors involved. The rake of the stylus, the height
of the arm relative to the record. Because there is no standard at all,
(in terms of cutting head angle)
what might be good for one piece of vinyl is not good for another. The
only way IMO to do the job reliably is the have a pair of good headphones,
and a tone arm that allows VTA to be changed during play. Pick out the
10 most common labels in your collection and make note of where each one
sounds good (IMO you want to go to where the sound 'pops in' someplace
between trebely and agressive, and liquid and slow there is a certain
point that sounds right. Make notations, and then move the VTA to that
place each time you play the same vinyl. Much easier (and if you have
no headphones and/or VTA during play, find a spot where the most records
sound the best, and leave it there, will usually NOT be ideal, but better
than just a random setting.
W