Not enjoying the cacaphony of the sales hack Steven R. Rochlin abusing us to make a buck
Andre Jute
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute
Hi Everyone,
Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5
powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.
Enjoy the Music,
Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com
bluezfolk
Well aren't we a pompous, self-inflated audiophile?
Eric
George M. Middius
bluezfolk said:
> Well aren't we a pompous, self-inflated audiophile?
Are you aware that Rochelin once sold his house in order to buy a $100K
amplifier?
--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.
soundhaspriority
"Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152117021....@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
> incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
> adverising on your silly site and for the number of
> foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
> travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
> and simple, but one without the balls to open up
> an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute
>
beginning been very commercial. My personal opinion is that Mr. Rochlin's
obvious, and not criminal, desire to make money is a tolerable tradeoff for
what he provides the community.
Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten
after Kerouac, Burroughs, or Jackson Pollock?
George M. Middius
Robert said:
> Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten
Just don't call the Krooborg a magnificent bastard or read Ferstler's books.
--
A day without Krooger is like a day radiation poisoning.
The Repair Guy
>Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
>you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--
Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...
The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com
Alan Rutlidge
"Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Didn't you start this crap thread over at rec.audio.uk (or was it
rec.audio.tubes) ?
Who cares in any case. So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
header.
Haven't you learnt to ignore this?
Robert Morein
<repair...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry guys, forgery.
Bob Morein
paul packer
Now which Bob Morein is this? The real one or the one who sometimes
posts, "Sorry guys, forgery."? :-)
Andre Jute
Good God, yes! That sales hack Rochlin, who lives on what advertisers
pay him to "review" their crap favourably so they can push it onto
fashion victims, ponces around pontificating about other matters like
he's some kind of a guru. He isn't, he is a paper hanger for
advertisers. It is a disgusting hypocrisy for Steven Rochlin to claim
to help audiophiles when all he does is lead them like lambs to the
slaughter.
I knew Rochlin on the net before he became so self-important. He was
useless on electronics and audio then, he is useless almost fifteen
years later.
He's the sort of climber who once advised people not to wear a Rolex
too often to protect the resale value.
> Eric
Welcome to the morality debate, Eric.
Andre Jute
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Andre Jute
soundhaspriority wrote:
> "Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152117021....@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> > you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
> > incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
> > adverising on your silly site and for the number of
> > foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
> > travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
> > and simple, but one without the balls to open up
> > an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute
> >
> This reminisces the "art vs. money" debate.
Eh? I can understand that a logger might object. But you're mistaken if
you think my objection to Rochlin and his Enjoythemusic.com ripoff is
on the grounds of art or even journalism, though it is wretched
journalism, mere paperhanging for advertising, pandering to
manufacturers too cheap to afford real advertising. Nah, here I speak
as a DIYer and on grounds of morality.
> Look, audio has from the very
> beginning been very commercial.
Absolutely no objection. On my home base, RAT, most of the actually
useful guys have some commercial interest in electronics or directly in
audio. Without their knowledge, the newsgroup would fall down.
But Rochlin doesn't fit that definition. He is a know-nothing. If he
didn't make a buck leading audiophile fashion victims to the slaughter,
he'd make a buck leading jeans-snobs or watch-snobs to the slaughter.
Rochlin is an ignorant shill.
>My personal opinion is that Mr. Rochlin's
> obvious, and not criminal, desire to make money is a tolerable tradeoff for
> what he provides the community.
The question is what does he provide to the community. My opinion is
clear enough above: nothing for the community, dollars in Rochlin's
pocket for Rochlin.
> Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten
> after Kerouac, Burroughs, or Jackson Pollock?
Please God, no! Your very suggestion tells us that you don't know
anything at all about these people. I'm sure that even Rochlin, whom I
dislike intensely for his basic dishonesty, his uselessness, for being
a parasite, bathes more often than that trio of scroungers and liars.
But there is a difference between Rochlin and that trio: they had
talent; Rochlin's only "talent" is quivering like a puppy-dog to be
loved so that we will give him tidbits off our table.
Rochlin is not "an audio entrepreneur". He is a publicity flack, a
paper hanger for advertiser, grubbing trash. It is an impertinence for
Rochlin to claim that his Enjoythemusic.com ripoff "helps audiophiles".
It helps no one except Steven R. Rochlin, who next week will be pushing
different crap while the innocent is stuck with the crap he equally
willy-nilly pushed last week.
Check out who advertises on Rochlin's site. Then check out who gets the
best reviews and the constant mentions. Draw a conclusion. I have. See
above.
Andre Jute
"You can wait 'til more important things get taken care of."
-- Ned Carlson of TubeZone to a Customer who already waited *14 weeks*
for his tubes.
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
> incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
> adverising on your silly site and for the number of
> foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
> travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
> and simple, but one without the balls to open up
> an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute
>
Andre Jute
Mmm. As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger -- there is a
difference between Krueger and Rochlin. Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as
an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
misapplied. It is not an uncommon thing for cranks to do, though most
of them are not as vicious as Krueger.
Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com ripoff doesn't even have the excuse of
a strong conviction, unless it is the strong conviction that the rest
of us exist only as a trough for Rochlin to dip his snout into at
feeding time, which for Rochlin is all the time. Rochlin's basic
immorality is greed, then more greed, then ignorance of what a proper
review sheet does, then some more greed, then the dishonesty of giving
manufacturers the reviews they pay for. Krueger was just badly brought
up and poorly educated but Rochlin is mercernary trash. I leave it to
decide which is worse.
Andre Jute
Habit is the nursery of errors. -- Victor Hugo
Andre Jute
The Repair Guy wrote:
You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"? Does that mean you have
learned to solder? Or are you like that clown Witless Wiecky who used
to hang around RAT calling himself "a repair hack" until we discovered
the only repair he ever perpetrated was to clean the dust out of
someone's amp with compressed air. That's worse than calling yourself
"The Repair Guy" because your momma said you could.
> "Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> >you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
> --snip--
>
> Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
> one guy to five newsgroups...
Of course I did. When we put down a ripoff merchant, we want to put him
down in the fora in which he committed his crimes. Steven R. Rochlin
through his Enjoythemusic.com scam has been leading audiophiles to the
slaughter at the hands of incompetent makers of bland fashion-victim
crap without any discernable sonic benefit for years -- in all these
conferences, and some others, but I reckon the RAHE audiophools deserve
Rochlin for their gullibility and their slackness in not reading up a
little, a very little science.
What did you think I would do? Creep around sulking ineffectually like
you?
> The Repair Guy
> repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com
Andre Jute
Stop bleating. Please, please, please give us the Silence of the Lambs.
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
Andre Jute
Oh, you're definitely a forgery. The real Robert Morein is a fellow
with an elegant turn of mind who would never demean himself by these
nauseating iterations of soundbites so dull they are boring the first
time one sees them. -- Andre Jute
Andre Jute <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
> you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
Andre Jute
How is it a "crap thread" to discuss the morality of a paper hanger for
advertisers like Steven R. Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com scam
delivering to his paymasters favourable reviews for goods that are
widely known to have no sonic effect whatsoever?
Or do you view the morality of scam artists using the free airwaves to
line their pockets the same way you view the morality of child sex
tourism to South East Asia?
> Who cares in any case.
I do, obviously. So would you, if you had any brains. But if you don't,
like the good Lord Valve says, "It ain't rocket science. No likee, no
readee."
So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
> header.
You haven't read the thread or, if you did, you are a functional
illiterate (or if not, your brains have been eaten by syphilis). My
objection is not to moderate advertising of Rochlin's scam-site on the
audio conferences. My objection is to his dishonest claim to "help
audiophiles". My objection is to Rochlin supporting dishonest
saleshacks. My objection is that useless greedbag Rochlin posturing as
a moral arbiter. That's like telling the Mafia they can appoint the
Police Commissioner, inviting gangrene into the usenet.
> Haven't you learnt to ignore this?
See above. You're another unsophisticated rustic with an on-off switch
in his mind who insists everything must be one way or the other. The
world isn't like that. There are shades. We tolerate a certain amount
of Rochlin-like corruption in the system because it isn't worth the
unpleasantness of excising it. But that jumped up street-trader Steven
R Rochlin is now getting above himself and has thereby made it worth
the unpleasantness of cleaning him out like pus from an abcess.
Andre Jute
How is it a "crap thread" to discuss the morality of a paper hanger for
advertisers like Steven R. Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com scam
delivering to his paymasters favourable reviews for goods that are
widely known to have no sonic effect whatsoever?
Or do you view the morality of scam artists using the free airwaves to
line their pockets the same way you view the morality of child sex
tourism to South East Asia?
> Who cares in any case.
I do, obviously. So would you, if you had any brains. But if you don't,
like the good Lord Valve says, "It ain't rocket science. No likee, no
readee."
So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
> header.
You haven't read the thread or, if you did, you are a functional
illiterate (or if not, your brains have been eaten by syphilis). My
objection is not to moderate advertising of Rochlin's scam-site on the
audio conferences. My objection is to his dishonest claim to "help
audiophiles". My objection is to Rochlin supporting dishonest
saleshacks. My objection is that useless greedbag Rochlin posturing as
a moral arbiter. That's like telling the Mafia they can appoint the
Police Commissioner, inviting gangrene into the usenet.
> Haven't you learnt to ignore this?
See above. You're another unsophisticated rustic with an on-off switch
RichCI
Andre Jute wrote:
> The Repair Guy wrote:
>
> You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"? Does that mean you have
> learned to solder? Or are you like that clown Witless Wiecky who used
> to hang around RAT calling himself "a repair hack" until we discovered
> the only repair he ever perpetrated was to clean the dust out of
> someone's amp with compressed air. That's worse than calling yourself
> "The Repair Guy" because your momma said you could.
He repairs *guitars*, you dumbass, which is why he is responding to
your cross posted crap on alt.guitars. If you have a problem with some
audiophile tube supplier, stick to those forums; guitar players have no
use for gold plated connectors or your rambling.
The Repair Guy
>The Repair Guy wrote:
>
>You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"?
Well, let's take a moment and look at some message
headers... yup, evidently I stll am.
>Does that mean you have learned to solder?
How would you possibly know whether I can solder?
Or MIG weld, or tap dance, or anything else?
Where do you get this stuff? Did you just buy the
Franklin Pocket Non Sequitur Generator (FPNSG)?
I bet the blue LEDs were what sold you on it.
--snip--
>> "Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
>> >you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
>> --snip--
>>
>> Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
>> one guy to five newsgroups...
>
>Of course I did. When we put down a ripoff merchant, we
Who's "we"? You and the FPNSG? You & Andrew McCoy?
You & the Justice League of America?
>want to put him down in the fora in which he committed his
>crimes. Steven R. Rochlin through his Enjoythemusic.com
>scam has been leading audiophiles to the slaughter at the
>hands of incompetent makers of bland fashion-victim crap
>without any discernable sonic benefit for years -- in all these
>conferences, and some others, but I reckon the RAHE
>audiophools deserve Rochlin for their gullibility and their
>slackness in not reading up a little, a very little science.
>What did you think I would do? Creep around sulking
>ineffectually like you?
Actually, I was hoping you'd find a nice, quiet hobby.
Have you thought about building amplifiers?
George M. Middius
Andre Jute said:
> > > Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten
> > Just don't call the Krooborg a magnificent bastard or read Ferstler's books.
> Mmm. As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
> single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger
Let's leave it that. My comment was a sort-of pun on Robert's typo.
Bill Riel
pac...@iprimus.com.au says...
The latter - if you look at the headers you'll see that the real Bob
Morein posts from Giganews. The above post originated with highwinds-
media.
--
Bill
soundhaspriority
"Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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soundhaspriority
particularly the info sectionl. While I did not purposely examine the info
in order to validate it, it generally impressed me as useful; the sort of
stuff that many audiophiles who aren't bookish gain access to via Rochlin's
site.
Here in the U.S., there has been considerable law relating to the
truthfulness of advertising claims. "Bigger", "better", "more powerful",
"more effective", even "clinically proven", have been given somewhat of a
waiver by our legal system from standards of common discourse. Hence, we
tolerate advertising balderdash that would be considered offensive if told
by one person to another. In one case, the contents of a college catalog
were used as evidence against the college. The college successfully defended
with the claim that the introduction to the college catalog was
"advertising" rather than "contractual promises."
Since English and American common law are still joined at the hip to a
surprising degree, with civil verdicts shared as precedent in both
countries, the U.K. is not immune to this. In fact, there is a rather rude
colloquialism in the U.K. that actually was the slogan of a laxative --
"gets around the bend", which was modified to "he's gone around the bend."
All this is as puzzling to me as it would be to someone hearing it for the
first time. If Mr. Rochlin's activities are not sanctioned by everyone on
the personal level, the courts have endorsed much or all of it as one of the
primary engines of Capitalism -- advertising. According to capitalists,
encouragement of consumption is vital to prosperity.
All but the most ardent capitalists are torn between disgust and admiration
of all things capital. Capitalism is weak on moral content, but strong on
results.
I don't trust any review anymore. My standards have become too internal for
that. Perhaps you, too?
"Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152186704.0...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
George M. Middius
Robert said:
> All this is as puzzling to me as it would be to someone hearing it for the
> first time. If Mr. Rochlin's activities are not sanctioned by everyone on
> the personal level, the courts have endorsed much or all of it as one of the
> primary engines of Capitalism -- advertising. According to capitalists,
> encouragement of consumption is vital to prosperity.
I think Jute's point was that Rochy doesn't present his plugs as adverts,
but rather as (impartialish) reviews. If he's just a shill, his role should
be made clear.
> I don't trust any review anymore. My standards have become too internal for
> that. Perhaps you, too?
Sad to say, squawking about shilling is a behavior evinced most often by
the Audio 'Borgs.
soundhaspriority
that is the situation, it's not right. But as in the college catalog case,
one is not necessarily required to specifically identify material as
advertising in order to gain protection from fraud-based complaint. I
believe the legal standard is whether a normally intelligent person would be
able to make the distinction.
Is this the case with Rochlin's site?
"George M. Middius" <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net> wrote
in message news:e3dra2pg3q9qege8d...@4ax.com...
Alan Rutlidge
Andre, grow up. The Internet and Usenet is full of scams. So this is just
another one hey?
Surely you have better things to talk about than exposing this alledged scam
artist?
There are plenty of people out there who would claim to be offering advice.
Some of it good, some of it bad, and a whole swag of in between stuff.
Andre, where do you see yourself in this scheme of things?
>
> Or do you view the morality of scam artists using the free airwaves to
> line their pockets the same way you view the morality of child sex
> tourism to South East Asia?
And what might that view be Andre? Perhaps you might care to elaborate on
this piece of crap too?
You obviously have me at a disadvantage as I know nothing of the latter.
>
>> Who cares in any case.
>
> I do, obviously. So would you, if you had any brains. But if you don't,
> like the good Lord Valve says, "It ain't rocket science. No likee, no
> readee."
No problem with you "caring" Andre. Ever considered your approach to the
subject is rather more confronting than constructive?
>
> So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
>> header.
>
> You haven't read the thread or, if you did, you are a functional
> illiterate (or if not, your brains have been eaten by syphilis). My
> objection is not to moderate advertising of Rochlin's scam-site on the
> audio conferences. My objection is to his dishonest claim to "help
> audiophiles". My objection is to Rochlin supporting dishonest
> saleshacks. My objection is that useless greedbag Rochlin posturing as
> a moral arbiter. That's like telling the Mafia they can appoint the
> Police Commissioner, inviting gangrene into the usenet.
So not only are you the Usenet Police, you also do physical and mental
diagnosis but also pathology by proxy. How interesting.
>
>> Haven't you learnt to ignore this?
>
> See above. You're another unsophisticated rustic with an on-off switch
> in his mind who insists everything must be one way or the other. The
> world isn't like that. There are shades. We tolerate a certain amount
> of Rochlin-like corruption in the system because it isn't worth the
> unpleasantness of excising it. But that jumped up street-trader Steven
> R Rochlin is now getting above himself and has thereby made it worth
> the unpleasantness of cleaning him out like pus from an abcess.
Hmmm.... so it would appear that you intend to graduate from diagnosis by
proxy to surgery.
My, my you are indeed a talented chappie aren't you?
Andre Jute
soundhaspriority wrote:
> I haven't made a study of Rochlin, as you have. I perused the site,
> particularly the info sectionl. While I did not purposely examine the info
> in order to validate it, it generally impressed me as useful; the sort of
> stuff that many audiophiles who aren't bookish gain access to via Rochlin's
> site.
First of all, we in Europe have a higher expectation of reviews than
Americans. (It is a subtext of much of what John Atkinson writes; much
of the controversy he is involved in, away from the pseudo-scientific
crank fringe of Krueger etc, arises from the fact that he is an
Englishman with much higher expectations.) Secondly, the laws in Europe
are much different. Thirdly, your analysis of American law and practice
below is at variance with the reality of practice.
> Here in the U.S., there has been considerable law relating to the
> truthfulness of advertising claims. "Bigger", "better", "more powerful",
> "more effective", even "clinically proven", have been given somewhat of a
> waiver by our legal system from standards of common discourse. Hence, we
> tolerate advertising balderdash that would be considered offensive if told
> by one person to another. In one case, the contents of a college catalog
> were used as evidence against the college. The college successfully defended
> with the claim that the introduction to the college catalog was
> "advertising" rather than "contractual promises."
But neither US law, nor local AAAA codes of practice, nor for that
matter codes of practice enforced by the major media, permit "passing
off", the pretense that one thing is in fact another thing. That is why
you find outright paid-for newspaper advertising supplements, when
dressed up as editorial matter, headed with the word "ADVERTISEMENT" or
"Advertising Supplement" on each page.
In the case of Steven R. Rochlin's EnjoytheMusic.com paid advertising
is clearly dressed up as independent advertising matter. That is
passing off. That is deceit for gain.
> Since English and American common law are still joined at the hip to a
> surprising degree, with civil verdicts shared as precedent in both
> countries, the U.K. is not immune to this. In fact, there is a rather rude
> colloquialism in the U.K. that actually was the slogan of a laxative --
> "gets around the bend", which was modified to "he's gone around the bend."
The similarities are deceptive. In the UK an advertiser will get away
with none of the bigger and better examples you mentioned above.
European law effectively comes down to a challenge to advertisers to
prove all factual claims and in some cases implied factual claims. Note
that it is the law that issues the challenge; there is no need to wait
for a competitor or consumer to lodge a complaint; false advertising is
illegal and the state acts on behalf of the common weal. In practice,
long before the state acts, the professional bodies have acted,
precisely as in the US example above where no one in the print media
can get away with publishing an advertisement dressed up as editorial
without announcing it. (In most countries the sanction works through
capitalist means, incidentally: what happens is that after all other
remedies are exhausted, membership of the pro body is withdrawn, and
with it the right to get credit and to withold a fixed percentage of
the payment as the "agency" fee, which is the income of the
intermediaries. That usually suffices to close down the transgressor
because we are talking about interest for 90 days on many hundreds of
millions, and about 12-16.5 per cent of the many hundreds of millions
which are the ad agent's fees. Unfortunately the internet does not yet
have professional standards so there is no one to sanction the likes of
Rochlin when they transgress decency.)
> All this is as puzzling to me as it would be to someone hearing it for the
> first time. If Mr. Rochlin's activities are not sanctioned by everyone on
> the personal level, the courts have endorsed much or all of it as one of the
> primary engines of Capitalism -- advertising. According to capitalists,
> encouragement of consumption is vital to prosperity.
I made my early career in advertising. I still write very technical
books on communications psychology and reprographics (a part of the
graphic arts) for the communications trades, of which advertising is a
substantial part. I believe implicitly in the value of advertising to
reduce unit costs my maximising distribution, the key mechanism of
capitalism.
However, the value of honest advertising is demeaned when people like
Rochlin tries to pretend advertising is impartial editorial. Rochlin's
activities at Enjoythemusic.shill devastate the credibility of a wider
audience, all for Rochlin's personal profit. He makes work for the rest
of us to recover that good faith which advertising would enjoy, but for
the activities of Rochlin and others like him.
> All but the most ardent capitalists are torn between disgust and admiration
> of all things capital. Capitalism is weak on moral content, but strong on
> results.
That's bullshit. The morality of the hidden hand is merely poorly
understood. As a young intellectual, I felt as you describe above,
terribly ambivalent. Then I went to Russia to lecture on the marketing
uses of statistics, during Brezhnev's little perestroika of the later
1960s. I came away wondering how anyone in his right mind could be
anti-capitalist. There are no examples, none, period, of central
planning working. The only alternative is capitalism. (The so-called
welfare state, often described as modified mixed-economy socialism, is
no such thing; it is modified capitalism and, what's more, a very
nation-state sort of capitalism at its root, as can be seen by studying
the first welfare state, Bismarck's Prussia, and the following that
through the Liberal founders of the British model system which in a
cleaned-up form operates in Germany and elsewhere in Europe today.)
> I don't trust any review anymore. My standards have become too internal for
> that. Perhaps you, too?
Yes, of course. But this isn't about whether two sophisticated
audiophiles are taken in by Rochlin's greedy crap. It isn't even about
those less sophisticated whom Rochlin leads to the slaughter at the
hands of paying pushers of placebo "audiophile" fashion-of-the-week
crap. This is about the fundamental dishonesty of Rochlin claiming to
"help audiophiles". In Europe he would investigated and brought up
before an enquiry for lying that he "helps audiophiles" when all he
does is "help himself line his pockets". That is so gross a
transgression of honesty that it alone would be enough to condemn
Rochlin and Enjoythemusic.ripoff, even without all his other deceits
and dishonesties.
Andre Jute
pf...@aol.com
The poisonous miasma that is Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:
>More Crap, different day....
Only this time, its chosen sock-puppets (both sides) joined in for
"weight".
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
soundhaspriority
<pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bob Morein
Dresher, PA
(215) 646-4894
pf...@aol.com
soundhaspriority wrote:
> What is your problem, Peter? This is a purposeful, intellectual thread.
>
Sure, it is. Look at the cast of characters. And the pseudopod that
manipulates them.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Andre Jute
Someone rather aptly christened this fellow Witless Wiecky. I didn't
know he still hangs around. He arrived around last November, probably
stoked up by Michael LaFever of Magnequest who is his neighbour, and
started his life of misery by assaulting my every post. I gave up
reading what he wrote after a couple of weeks. He doesn't do anything,
he doesn't know anything, he cannot contribute anything, he isn't
intelligent, he isn't amusing, he's a mindlessly circular oxygen-burden
on the planet.
There are more like Witless Wiecky on RAT: Yaeger, Poopie, MarkS,
Eiron, idiots who think that by making snippy comments about my posts
they will build up their own inadequate self-esteem. They're too dumb
to understand that one doesn't gain esteem by tearing down but by
building up. I just ignore them; they're harmless slow-learners, though
I daresay others without killfiles find their mindlessly iterated
stupidities irritating.
Andre Jute
Toujours l'outrage -- French for "in your face"
Robert Morein
> There are more like "Andre Jute" on RAT: Yaeger, Poopie, MarkS,
> Eiron, idiots who think that by making snippy comments about my posts they
> will build up their own inadequate self-esteem. And they use phony names like
> "Andre Jute" as well. They're too dumb to understand that one doesn't gain
> esteem by tearing down but by building up. I just ignore them; they're
> harmless slow-learners, though I daresay others without killfiles find their
> mindlessly iterated stupidities irritating.
>
Robert Morein
Shop 'N Bag, Pennsylvania
soundhaspriority
"Robert Morein" <now...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Too bad it makes fraudulent claims.
Robert Morein
The Repair Guy
--snip--
> idiots who think that by making snippy comments
>about my posts they will build up their own inadequate
>self-esteem. They're too dumb to understand that one
>doesn't gain esteem by tearing down but by building up.
Ah. That explains your attacks on Mr Carlson, etc.
Carry on.
Andre Jute
I haven't attacked Ned Carlson of Tubezone or Steven R. Rochlin of
Enjoythemusic. If I had attacked them, they'd be in surgery and then in
traction.
I have merely considered the morality of Carlson and Rochlin in the
light of published evidence -- published by themselves, I might add. On
hand of the finding Carlson and Rochlin's morality deeply flawed by
greed, insincerity, hypocrisy and arrogance, and, in Carlson's case,
rampant racism, I have concluded it is wiser not to give one's money to
Carlson at Tubezone.commisserations for goods when there are so many
honest tube pushers to buy from, nor to give one's money to the
placebo-pushing manufacturers Rochlin shills for at
Enjoythemusic.allpaidadvertising.
Turning now to you, anonymous "Repair Guy", your glaringly unsubtle
subtext is that these two scumballs should be immune from justifiable
and roundly justified criticism for their dishonesty *because they are
traders*. It is a common attitude in the audio conferences, where many
are wannabe traders. It is none the less a despicable attitude, and
despised by none, not even me, more than by the good, honest
professionals who give us their knowledge free of charge and expect
nothing in return except our goodwill.
This virtual commonwealth of crooks and incompetents on the net
explains why scum like Rochlin jumps to defend Carlson, and Carlson
jumps to defend Rochlin, and the two of them, all lovey-dovey, in years
gone by, before I landed on them for it like a ton of Roman law carved
in marble, used to tell everyone to buy, buy, buy from the other garage
vermin on the newsgroups. If you don't believe me, start reading RAT
c1997. And why they complained so bitterly when the flame wars they
started in the hope of attracting attention and profit backfired on
them.
Oh yeah, and it explains why simpering trash like Rochlin
hypocritically tries to sound high-minded by telling us he regrets the
passing of the old nettiquette -- but doesn't dare debate it with me
when I point out that the old nettiquette was that one did not enquire
into the trading practices and morality of the scum on the newsgroups,
or their gangbanging of consumers who dared complain about inadequate
goods and vicious attitudes. It was that nettiquette which persuaded
the invisible co-defendent to Carlson and Rochlin, Michael LaFever of
Magnequest, Philadelphia, that he could take over a public newsgroup as
his own marketing channel for his obsolete and incompetently designed
transformers -- with the full, enthusiastic, immoral and vicious
support of Carlson and Rochlin.
You methods of trying to protect these ripoff merchants, "Repair Guy",
stink to high heaven of personal attack on me. You haven't argued a
single case I put. You have merely kibbitzed about me.
Is there any reason I shouldn't killfile a dull clown like you as I
have already killfiled the other garage vermin?
Meanwhile, thanks for the opportunity to put some more facts about
Rochlin and his coterie of crooks on the record. It is ironic that
justice depends on wannabe vermin like you stirring the pot.
Andre Jute
"You can wait 'til more important things get taken care of."
-- Ned Carlson of TubeZone to a Customer who already waited *14 weeks*
for his tubes.
Here is my original in this thread, lest in the personal abuse flung by
the apprentice garage traders (and repair guys), we forget that serious
money is being stolen from unsuspecting audiophiles:
____
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
advertising on your silly site and for the number of
soundhaspriority
Here is a document which largely confirms your position:
http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/anthony/naruc.htm However, the realities of
advertising, at least in the U.S., seem remarkably divergent. To put it
bluntly, the level of enforcement based upon general advertising law verges
on nonexistence. However, there appear to be two tiers of law: the general
advertising law, as non-administered by the FTC, and statutes covering
special areas, such as drug and food labeling, that are strictly enforced.
The only example I can recall relevant to audio was the decision of the
FTC, sometime in the 70's, to mandate quoting of RMS power, rather than IHF
power, to "protect" consumers from blatantly false amplifier claims. For a
few years, the FTC lawyers whacked at the manufacturers, and got them in
line. In the past few years, the IHF power spec has reappeared. It appears
that with respect to compliance with advertising laws, the primary question
is, "What is the cost of compliance versus later payment of a fine ?"
As Steven R. Rochlin has got your back up, so I have my particular
pique. Brian L. McCarty has for years been attempting to attract investors
via blatant fraud, with his websites http://www.coralseastudios.com, and
http://www.worldjazz.com. I have on a number of occasions, and in a number
of ways, brought this to the attention of Australian regulators. Their
attitude appears to be that unless McCarty actually succeeds in taking
someone's money, there is no complaint worth the effort of prosecution. The
decision of law enforcement is weighted heavily by the existence of injured
parties.
Realities sometimes exist in contrast with the statutes. For example,
here in the U.S., the FBI has a guideline, sometimes broken at their
discretion, that cases distinguished primarily by financial loss are not
initiated unless the loss exceeds $40K.
Thus, Rochlin, as with current importers of junk equipment who quote IHF
power, "White Van" speakers, or Brian L. McCarty, take risks based upon
their assessment of who gets hammered and why. Of course, sometimes, when
the personality of a risk-taker gets carried away, as with a Ponzi scheme
that grows, he might lose his game of chance.
"Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
\
>
> He repairs *guitars*, you dumbass, which is why he is responding to
> your cross posted crap on alt.guitars. If you have a problem with some
> audiophile tube supplier, stick to those forums; guitar players have no
> use for gold plated connectors or your rambling.
>
>
Also, they like to throw out perfectly good Telefunkens.
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Andre Jute
I started out writing to you how sad is all this laid out in your
letter. But it isn't, really. True, scum like Carlson and Rochlin and
LaFever get away with their nastiness only a little scarred. True, the
bullyboys on the internet seems to believe that living with dishonest
trailer park trash is a manhood rite. True, the authorities are lost in
a morass of immorality if they have to set a high financial barrier
before they act. On the other hand, nobody is pretending it is an ideal
situation, and some in authority are considering the amount of flex in
the system that is necessary/least damaging. And a minority of folk --
on these conferences you and me -- are not afraid to speak up and
trample a few bullyboys. I can remember how corrupting the constant
lying of the Kennedy/Johnson era was, and how the constant political
correctness of the left-wing generation which educated me narrowed
their mental capabilities and their inherent honesty (I'm talking about
the fellow-travellers protecting their careers by not stepping out of
line; the committed leftwingers were dishonest through and through,
like a candy stick you buy on an pier). Now principled people can at
least speak out. That is a huge advance. Far from whimpering in our
beer, a few tentative congratulations may be in order.
Andre Jute
Eeyore
Andre Jute wrote:
> Yo, Bob:
>
> I started out writing to you how..........
I bet you did you damn pontificating windbag !
Graham
paul packer
>I haven't attacked Ned Carlson of Tubezone or Steven R. Rochlin of
>Enjoythemusic. If I had attacked them, they'd be in surgery and then in
>traction.
I love Andre's posts. They're always filled with sweetness and light.
It's like an episode of Play School.
George M. Middius
paul packer said:
> I love Andre's posts. They're always filled with sweetness and light.
> It's like an episode of Play School.
How cryptic. What is "Play School"?
George M. Middius
Signal said:
> >> I love Andre's posts. They're always filled with sweetness and light.
> >> It's like an episode of Play School.
> >
> >How cryptic. What is "Play School"?
>
> Children's TV programme :
<sigh>
paul packer
>"George M. Middius" emitted :
>
>>> I love Andre's posts. They're always filled with sweetness and light.
>>> It's like an episode of Play School.
>>
>>How cryptic. What is "Play School"?
>
>Children's TV programme :
My favourite show. I especially enjoy Mr. Magic Mirror. :-)
pf...@aol.com
Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:
>Same crap, different day.
Mr. McCoy:
You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
that passes for your mind:
I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:
1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.
2. You are nothing but a loose accretion of fantasies supported by
dubious anecdotes and no facts. You lie as others eat and sleep, a
natural result of your existence so deeply part of you that you have
entirely lost touch with those few things about you that may once have
been real.
3. You have allied yourself past and present with similarly damaged
individuals so as to (again) seek validation even by those who join you
in the same way as you seek them, though for the most part without the
same obsessiveness. Noting to this end that you have paid high
complements to an individual still sucking at the parental tit at an
age when many of us are counting our grand children. There actually may
be some person/place/thing on this earth who has done less than you.
Amazing if true.
With all that in mind, you have the same value and position within this
venue as a dangerous bridge or a poisonous mushroom does in the real
world. Those who know you understand what a charlatan, poseur and waste
of bandwidth that you are. Those that do not may be gulled by your
superficial, vanity-published, but entirely insubstantial command of
the English Language... thereby assume that there might be a "there"
there.
So, write what you will. Nothing will change. Your unhappiness will not
change. Your lack of substance and accomplishment will not change, nor
will either increase even microscopically. And the five minutes it took
me to knock out the above is 4:59 more than you deserve, but quietly
amusing.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
The Repair Guy
>The Repair Guy wrote:
>> "Andre Jute" <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> --snip--
>> > idiots who think that by making snippy comments
>> >about my posts they will build up their own inadequate
>> >self-esteem. They're too dumb to understand that one
>> >doesn't gain esteem by tearing down but by building up.
>>
>> Ah. That explains your attacks on Mr Carlson, etc.
>> Carry on.
>
>I haven't attacked Ned Carlson of Tubezone or Steven
>R. Rochlin of Enjoythemusic. If I had attacked them, they'd
>be in surgery and then in traction.
No doubt, no doubt. Sorry for the vagueness. You've
attacked them _verbally_, thereby revealing your own
inadequate self-esteem. See google groups for any
of your numerous vendetta-style threads.
>I have merely considered the morality of Carlson and
>Rochlin in the light of published evidence -- published
>by themselves, I might add.
You've presented your interpretations of what they've
written as fact.
>On hand of the finding Carlson and Rochlin's morality
>deeply flawed by greed, insincerity, hypocrisy and
>arrogance,
I bet those last three really burn _you_, eh?
>and, in Carlson's case, rampant racism,
What was the "racism" again - a crack about Germans?
!.) Isn't Mr Carlson German?
2.) Is German a race?
3.) "rampant"??
>I have concluded it is wiser not to give one's money
Then don't. Have they asked you for any?
>to Carlson at Tubezone.commisserations for goods
>when there are so many honest tube pushers to buy
>from, nor to give one's money to the placebo-pushing
>manufacturers Rochlin shills for at Enjoythemusic.all
>paidadvertising.
>Turning now to you, anonymous "Repair Guy", your
>glaringly unsubtle subtext is that these two scumballs
>should be immune from justifiable and roundly justified
>criticism for their dishonesty *because they are traders*.
That's one interpretation. Another might be that you're
throwing a lot of mud and hoping that some of it sticks.
>It is a common attitude in the audio conferences, where
>many are wannabe traders. It is none the less a
>despicable attitude, and despised by none, not even
>me, more than by the good, honest professionals who
>give us their knowledge free of charge and expect
>nothing in return except our goodwill.
You don't read a lot of Mark Twain, do you?
>This virtual commonwealth of crooks and incompetents
>on the net explains why scum like Rochlin jumps to
>defend Carlson, and Carlson jumps to defend Rochlin,
>and the two of them, all lovey-dovey, in years gone by,
>before I landed on them for it like a ton of Roman law
>carved in marble, used to tell everyone to buy, buy, buy
>from the other garage vermin on the newsgroups. If you
>don't believe me, start reading RAT c1997.
I've read some threads. I'm not reading every post.
If you have a specific cite or two to support your
accusations, go ahead.
--snip--
>You methods of trying to protect these ripoff merchants,
I'm not trying to "protect" anybody. You're posting in
a public newsgroup, attacking people. Clue: expect
comments.
>"Repair Guy", stink to high heaven of personal attack
>on me. You haven't argued a single case I put. You have
>merely kibbitzed about me.
Incorrect. I don't know anything about you, or claim to
know anything about you, except what I see in your posts.
If I think you're acting like a pinhead, I say so. Is there a
problem?
>Is there any reason I shouldn't killfile a dull clown like
>you as I have already killfiled the other garage vermin?
None I can think of. I'd certainly hate to think of a pillar
of morality like you becoming contaminated by "garage
vermin", "trailer trash", etc. Have you thought about
associating with only brilliant, honest, kindly people?
Perhaps your local house of worship.
paul packer
Brilliant. Wouldn't know if it's true or not, don't take sides, but
it's a brilliant piece. Congratulations.
I don't believe the five minutes bit though. :-)
Sylvan Morein, DDS
"pf...@aol.com" <pf...@aol.com> wrote:
> You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
> that passes for your mind:
>
> I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
> other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
> same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
> you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
> that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:
>
> 1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
> attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
> as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.
> 2. You are nothing but a loose accretion of fantasies supported by
> dubious anecdotes and no facts. You lie as others eat and sleep, aThe
> natural result of your existence so deeply part of you that you have
> entirely lost touch with those few things about you that may once have
> been real.
> 3. You have allied yourself past and present with similarly damaged
> individuals so as to (again) seek validation even by those who join you
> in the same way as you seek them, though for the most part without the
> same obsessiveness. Noting to this end that you have paid high
> complements to an individual still sucking at the parental tit at an
> age when many of us are counting our grand children. There actually may
> be some person/place/thing on this earth who has done less than you.
> Amazing if true.
>
> With all that in mind, you have the same value and position within this
> venue as a dangerous bridge or a poisonous mushroom does in the real
> world. Those who know you understand what a charlatan, poseur and waste
> of bandwidth that you are. Those that do not may be gulled by your
> superficial, vanity-published, but entirely insubstantial command of
> the English Language... thereby assume that there might be a "there"
> there.
>
> So, write what you will. Nothing will change. Your unhappiness will not
> change. Your lack of substance and accomplishment will not change, nor
> will either increase even microscopically. And the five minutes it took
> me to knock out the above is 4:59 more than you deserve, but quietly
> amusing.
Exactly the same can be said for my sick son Robert Morein.
The only difference would seem that Andre Jute actually finished university,
albeit to worthless result. My sick son Robert Morein "finished" when they
kicked his sorry ass out, and he embarrassed himself further by suing Drexel
and his hardworking professors trying to exact his pound of flesh.
Now he wiles away his worthless days and nights trying desperately to
attract attention to himself - only to be gutted like a dead fish by his
opponents who managed to blanket our neighbourhood with hundreds of flyers
showing him as the internet terrorist he is.
Sylvan Morein, DDS
=======================================================
Robert Morein History
> --
> http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/4853918.htm
>
>> Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
>> By L. STUART DITZEN
>> Philadelphia Inquirer
>>
>> PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
>> at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.
>>
>> They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
>> so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
>> to challenge his dismissal.
>
> The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.
>>
>> "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
>> pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
>> do come to a larger issue here."
>
> An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
> "pleasantly" eccentric.
>
>> A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
>> Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
>> by the media and the public.
>
> Because no one gives a shit about a 50 year old loser.
>>
>> But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.
>>
>> Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
>> years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
>> computer engineering.
>
> Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
> BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>>
>> Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
>> thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
>> rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
>> patented.
>
> A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
> done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.
>
>>
>> In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
>> ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.
>
> An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
> Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.
>
>>
>> Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
>> Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.
>
> Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
> offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
> money to cover up his lack of productivity.
>>
>> That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
>> tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.
>>
>> Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
>> representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
>> state Superior Court.
>>
>> The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
>> restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
>> time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
>> affairs was reasserted.
>>
>> The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
>> litigation, that would have been the end of it.
>>
>> But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
>> asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.
>
> Daddy throws more money down the crapper.
>
>> His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
>> even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
>> right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
>> compensation.
>>
>> "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
>> Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
>> happened to him is pretty common."
>
> It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
> the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.
>
>
>> Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
>> that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."
>>
>> "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
>> "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
>> intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
>> pursuing self-destructive litigation."
>
> No shit sherlock.
>
>> The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
>> committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
>> Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.
>>
>> His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
>> minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
>> and electronic systems.
>>
>> The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
>> calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
>> nuclear plant or a computer.
>
> My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
> Robert Morein, only sawdust.
>
>>
>> Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
>> and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
>> through a university lawyer, declined to comment.
>>
>> At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
>> 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
>> related to estimation theory.
>>
>> Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
>> Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
>> International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
>> it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
>> industrial processes.
>>
>> Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
>> inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
>> problem Kalata had presented.
>>
>> Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.
>>
>> K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.
>>
>> Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
>> into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
>> became alienated from Kalata.
>>
>> As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
>> The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
>> patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.
>
> Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
> of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.
>
>> In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
>> department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
>> asked for a new faculty adviser.
>
> The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.
>
>> He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
>> Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.
>>
>> Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
>> complete his thesis.
>
> So Morein fucks up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
> (a TEAM), and then fucks up again! Brilliant!
>
>>
>> Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.
>
> Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
> usenet proves it.
>
>>
>> Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
>> opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."
>
> So much for political machine judges.
>>
>> The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
>> about 100 of them.
>>
>> Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
>> appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
>> intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
>> Pennsylvania courts.
>
>> Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.
>
> Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
> Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.
>
>>
>> "I had to seek closure," he said.
>>
>> Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
>> hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.
>
> Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
> BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>>
>> As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
>> from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
>> make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
>> an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
>> bulletlike stream of water.
>
>
> FAILED STUDENT
> FAILED MOVIE MAKER
> FAILED SCREENWRITER
> FAILED INVESTOR
> FAILED DRIVER
> FAILED SON
> FAILED PARENTS
> FAILED INVENTOR
> FAILED PLAINTIFF
> FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
> FAILED HUMAN
> FAILED
> FAILED
>
>> But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.
>>
>> "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
>> gnawing thing."
soundhaspriority
<pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1152487298....@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:
>
>>Same crap, different day.
>
> Mr. McCoy:
>
> You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
> that passes for your mind:
>
> I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
> other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
> same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
> you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
> that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:
>
> 1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
> attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
> as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.
Dear Mr. Wieck:
You are smearing Mr. Jute, and you are smearing me. As we are virtually
neighbors, I assure you this will bite you in the ass.
Sincerely yours,
Robert Morein
(215) 646-4894
pf...@aol.com
soundhaspriority wrote:
>Amorphous semi-threats based on propinquity.
And is anything that I have written (or implied) lacking in either
supportable facts or truth? "Smears" are what Mr. McCoy does and based
on lies.
http://www.aopc.org/OpPosting/Supreme/out/516-17eal2001.pdf
About covers your activities over the last several years of your life.
You and that seething tarpit that provides you with validation are
pretty much total wastes of air and water. Just my opinion, I am not
writing for others, of course.
Allow me suggest to you that you are no threat, real or imagined, to me
or anyone else. But if it makes you feel better to cajole me with vague
bits of random blandishment to quieten me... have at.
But, before you do, let me relate to you a true story. Once upon a
time, c.1977, I purchased a house on the 4900 block of Walton Avenue in
West Philadelphia. You would understand that neighborhood better than
most posters here, but suffice it to say that when one could purchase a
2900s.f. three-story Victorian Row-House w/finished rentable apartment
built in 1896 in excellent condition for $17,500; it was not the best
in the world. Shortly after I moved in, a young punk three doors down &
across the street made a vague threat in my direction via my
lady-friend at the time, impying that she would "get" what I "got" as
well if I did not leave forthwith.
I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
lived in that house.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Clyde Slick
<pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1152540410.1...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
.
>
> I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
> just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
> crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
> how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
> hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
> accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
> lived in that house.
Can I be your friend. too?
paul packer
<artsa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
><pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1152540410.1...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>.
>>
>> I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
>> just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
>> crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
>> how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
>> hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
>> accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
>> lived in that house.
>
>Can I be your friend. too?
After that story, we're all his friends.
All but Arnie, of course.
Sound Emporium
"pf...@aol.com" <pf...@aol.com> wrote:
> About covers your activities over the last several years of your life.
> You and that seething tarpit that provides you with validation are
> pretty much total wastes of air and water. Just my opinion, I am not
> writing for others, of course.
>
> Allow me suggest to you that you are no threat, real or imagined, to me
> or anyone else. But if it makes you feel better to cajole me with vague
> bits of random blandishment to quieten me... have at.
It's obvious you have been the accomplice to McCarty in his sorry but
ineffectual attempt to defame me at my local Shop 'N Bag. My police buddies
just laughed and laughed at your sorry actions. I've called them and given
them your details, including the cars you have registered. They'll stop and
detain you if you should enter Upper Dublin, I can assure you.
Luv,
Bob Morein
soundhaspriority
"Sound Emporium" <thesound...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:C0D97D6F.4EB61%thesound...@fe05.buzzardnews.com...
Navin R. Johnson
what exactly is going on here?
Jon Yaeger
Johnson at Roadstar_Lover@?c??t?.net wrote on 7/12/06 12:21 AM:
> hmmm..
>
> what exactly is going on here?
>
>
Don't ask. You REALLY don't want to know.
Jon
paul packer
>Krueger can be viewed -- and no
>doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as
>an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
>misapplied.
Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?
Arny Krueger
news:44b4a124...@news.iprimus.com.au
It shows that you as a group have raised your level of self-deception. Good
job! ;-)
Steven R. Rochlin
Have been sitting back and watching the usual downward spiral, personal
attacks, sock puppets, forged postings, etc with the rec.audio.tube and
rec.audio.opinion non-moderated audio newsgroups. You have provided me with
some excellent content that may appear in a future article. Thanks for the
wonderful ebb and flow.
And now on with some replies:
NOTE: some posts were by the usual "sock puppets" or those who use others'
names to hide their own identity. My replies below simple states who the
proclaimed individual poster is, or pretends to be. This will be my only
reply to this thread for now, though may enjoy seeing your replies that
could provide more content for a possible upcoming article.
-----
Andre Jute Wed, Jul 5 2006 12:30 pm
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent shit because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute
Enjoy the Music.com reviews/mentions far more products/manufacturers who
have never advertised than those who have. If you take the time to see the
hundreds of reviews, and thousands of products within our show reports, you
would note that only a very, very small fraction advertise.
-------------------
From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
Are you aware that Rochelin once sold his house
in order to buy a $100K amplifier?
Incorrect on both accounts. Please show proof of your statement.
-------
From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
He's the sort of climber who once advised people not
to wear a Rolex too often to protect the resale value.
Incorrect. Please show proof of your statement. If anyone reading this
does own a Rolex, please wear it as often as possible since Rolex
manufacturers a very durable product.
----------
From: Navin R. Johnson, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:21 am
hmmm..
what exactly is going on here?
-----------
From: Jon Yaeger, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:32 am
Don't ask. You REALLY don't want to know.
Jon
Amen Jon.
Decided to not answer other posts, and of course not bother posting the
usual sock puppets, personal attacks between one another, etc. Thanks again
everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for what may
become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.
Enjoy the Music,
Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com
Where you can find:
Superior Audio, The Absolute Sound,
Review Magazine, The $ensible Sound,
The Audiophile Voice... and MUCH more!
paul packer
wrote:
I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.
George M. Middius
paul packer said:
> >>> Krueger can be viewed -- and no
> >>> doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
> >>> before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
> >>> narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.
> >> Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?
> >It shows that you as a group have raised your level of self-deception.
> I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.
Irrelvant™. What he did *not* say is that Krooger is going to hell. And
that, for Turdborg, is a victory.
Arny Krueger
So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote of Andre?
Jon Yaeger
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
> Have been sitting back and watching the usual downward spiral, personal
> attacks, sock puppets, forged postings, etc with the rec.audio.tube and
> rec.audio.opinion non-moderated audio newsgroups. You have provided me with
> some excellent content that may appear in a future article. Thanks for the
>Thanks again everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for
>what may become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.
>
Steven,
You should know that Andre Jute has (in the past) threatened to do the same
thing.
How's that for irony?
Jon
paul packer
wrote:
>"paul packer" <pac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>news:44b4e74c...@news.iprimus.com.au
>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>> <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "paul packer" <pac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:44b4a124...@news.iprimus.com.au
>>>> On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
>>>> <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Krueger can be viewed -- and no
>>>>> doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
>>>>> before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
>>>>> narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?
>
>>> It shows that you as a group have raised your level of
>>> self-deception. Good job! ;-)
>
>> I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.
>
>So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote of Andre?
No. Only of your sanity.
Arny Krueger
Talking about sanity, Paul? I guess you think your name is Andre.
Andre Jute
Psychology doesn't enter into it, though I doubt that what I actually
said holds much comfort for either of you squabling children. Context
is all:
----------------
As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger -- there is a
difference between Krueger and Rochlin. Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as
an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
misapplied. It is not an uncommon thing for cranks to do, though most
of them are not as vicious as Krueger.
Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com ripoff doesn't even have the excuse of
a strong conviction, unless it is the strong conviction that the rest
of us exist only as a trough for Rochlin to dip his snout into at
feeding time, which for Rochlin is all the time. Rochlin's basic
immorality is greed, then more greed, then ignorance of what a proper
review sheet does, then some more greed, then the dishonesty of giving
manufacturers the reviews they pay for. Krueger was just badly brought
up and poorly educated but Rochlin is mercenary trash. I leave it to
you
decide which is worse.
Andre Jute
Habit is the nursery of errors. -- Victor Hugo
----------------
As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
or, for that matter, greedy.
paul packer
>As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
>or, for that matter, greedy.
Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.
pf...@aol.com
Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts of drivel in
order to mean nothing. Those who do not know it an read its excretions
figure that with all that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.
Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Arny Krueger
Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at the
third grade level.
Arny Krueger
news:1152788095.2...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
It appears that Packer aspires to the same excretory standard.
Keith G
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:75qdnXVPwZG6tCvZ...@comcast.com...
No, you don't....
......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......
Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...
Like, f'sure, f'sure.....
*Totally*....
Andre Jute
You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that you are
British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly educated (literate if not
necessarily numerate), and think before you speak.
How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass. But, achurly,
nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of them all: you left out
"orrsum".
FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club. You gotta have
lots of hair and an IQ over 70; Krueger doesn't qualify on either
count.
Andre Jute
Lexicographer (in Valleyspeak: a word 'tec)
Arny Krueger
news:1152792685.2...@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
> Keith G wrote:
>> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>> news:75qdnXVPwZG6tCvZ...@comcast.com...
>>> "paul packer" <pac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:44b5f656...@news.iprimus.com.au
>>>> On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
>>>> <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
>>>>> for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.
>>>>
>>>> Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
>>>> incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.
>>>
>>> Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do
>>> well at writing at the third grade level.
>>
>>
>>
>> No, you don't....
>>
>> ......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......
>>
>> Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...
>>
>> Like, f'sure, f'sure.....
>>
>> *Totally*....
>
> You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that
> you are British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly
> educated (literate if not necessarily numerate), and
> think before you speak.
Well Andre, you forgot the "techically illiterate" and "bull headed" part of
any complete description of Keith.
But you can't see those in yourself even though they are massive! Therefore,
you're excused.
> How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass.
You forgot the dumass part, Andre.
> But, achurly, nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of
> them all: you left out "orrsum".
Inablity to properly spell a common slang word, noted.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orsome
> FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club.
> You gotta have lots of hair and an IQ under 70; Krueger
> doesn't qualify on either count.
Agreed.
Keith G
>
> Keith G wrote:
>> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>> news:75qdnXVPwZG6tCvZ...@comcast.com...
>> > "paul packer" <pac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>> > news:44b5f656...@news.iprimus.com.au
>> >> On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
>> >> <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
>> >>> being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.
>> >>
>> >> Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
>> >> incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.
>> >
>> > Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at
>> > the
>> > third grade level.
>>
>>
>>
>> No, you don't....
>>
>> ......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......
>>
>> Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...
>>
>> Like, f'sure, f'sure.....
>>
>> *Totally*....
>
> You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that you are
> British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly educated (literate if not
> necessarily numerate), and think before you speak.
Right on the money - even down to the no particular numeracy skills,
although if I said the answer was *1.414* I doubt many here would know what
the question was....???
>
> How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass. But, achurly,
> nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of them all: you left out
> "orrsum".
>
> FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club. You gotta have
> lots of hair and an IQ over 70; Krueger doesn't qualify on either
> count.
I'm saying nothing, I've just polished a fingertip and thumb unthinkingly
pulling on a connector (to test it) that I had *only just* just soldered to
a speaker wire....
Keith G
:-)
Fortunately, one pretty much compensates for the other - now you'll have to
excuse me, I want to get me new speakers finalised and back online for the
weekend....
George M. Middius
Wiecky said:
> Mr. McCoy
Are you really the one who teamed up with Lyin' Bwian to try and smear
Robert with those silly flyers?
--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.
Keith G
"Keith G" <kei...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:NZydnfLWNt6X3CvZ...@pipex.net...
Also, not to mention I'm schlepping up to the house every half an hour to
swap disks, as I'm also converting/burning a number of recorded digital TV
movie 'REC' files to DVD+RW Videos for projecting....
paul packer
>FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club. You gotta have
>lots of hair and an IQ over 70; Krueger doesn't qualify on either
>count.
Dear God. You've really ruined Arnie's day now.
paul packer
That's disappointing. But generally where there's excreta there is
some kind of animal.
I do find the massive amounts of drivel infrequently amusing,
especially the attacking bits. It reminds me of the description of
Alien in the movie: "Its invulnerability is matched only by its
aggression."
paul packer
wrote:
><pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
Your favourite subject, Arnie?
paul packer
wrote:
>"paul packer" <pac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
>news:44b5f656...@news.iprimus.com.au
>> On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
>> <fiu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
>>> being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.
>>
>> Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
>> incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.
>
> I just don't do well at writing at the third grade level.
I know. Yet you continue to do so.
Keith G
Touché....... :-)
Clyde Slick
<pf...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1152788095.2...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts of drivel in
> order to mean nothing. Those who do not know it an read its excretions
> figure that with all that going on there must be a pony in there
> somewhere... typically there is not.
>
we appreciate your efforts towards meaingless brevity.
--
Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service
------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem
Arny Krueger
Given that you just gratuitously brought it up again in your next post,
Paul...
"But generally where there's excreta there is some kind of animal."
...that crinkling sound that our more perceptive readers hear, is irony
killing.
Clyde Slick
He will get back to you after he consults his poop chart.
paul packer
wrote:
I was of course merely replying to Mr. Wieck's reference. Read the
posts properly, Arnie.